amy: that is masha gessen. she was speaking to us from germany. award ceremony went from an auditorium -- the ultimately. the award in someone's backyard. meanwhile, more than 500 global artist, film makers, and writers and cultural workers have announced a push against germany stays on israel's war on gaza, calling on artists to step back from collaborating with german state-funded association. the campaigns backed by the french author nobel prize for literature winner and a palestinian poet and activist that alleges germany has adopted "car theist policies that suppress freedoms of expression." we are speaking with emily jacir , whose speech was just canceled in berlin, germany. as we wrap up with you, i want to know if you can comment on what is happening in your birthplace, in bethlehem. the last time we went to bethlehem we were interviewing two pastors there, one who set up christ in the rubble that showed the baby jesus in rubble, signifying guys are. if you could talk about that? and the importance of your art as you continue. >> i will ta

masha gessen remained silent for 11 years about the mass molestation of children at a prestigious school. exactly 7 years ago, on september 3, 2016, i released another post on the now banned facebook. that masha gesson was involved in the long-term concealment of mass cases of pedophilia in the privileged 57th school, where teachers, in fact, openly investigated children for more than 10 years. masha gesson was then the editor-in-chief of gala magazine. having learned about cases of teacher inducing children to cohabitate in this school, collaboration with the gala magazine, all the perpetrators were punished, but what’s interesting is this fiery heart, masha gesson, who denounced the regime, but as soon as the matter touched her circle, as soon as the matter touched her own, she merged, she did not raise this question, why? but because there is such a concept of people of a circle, in the west it is called: a lobby, that is, having convicted one, you instantly go beyond the line of this circle, and you lose everything, earnings, grants, an invitation to a party, the opportunity to meet