abdelbassir hassan from bbc arabic, thank — homes.from bbc arabic, thank you. _ joining me now to discuss the ongoing diplomatic process is mina al—oraibi, editor in chief of the national newspaper. thank you for being with us. we heard from our bbc arabic corresponds about the spy chiefs are meeting in cairo. how significant is that and what does it tell us about the stage in negotiations? it is uuite the stage in negotiations? it is quite significant _ the stage in negotiations? it 3 quite significant because we need some form of trust building at the moment. politicians have too much at stake, it is widely known now that for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu he is much more invested, on the flip side hamas began once this war starts that there will be a reckoning around october the 7th, getting the spy chiefs there is a sign of not only seriousness but how can you build some sort of confidence to get to a point where a truce can be declared, even if temporary, to ease the suffering of the palestinians. there is at least 1.4

let's speak to abdelbassir hassan from bbc arabic, who joins us from cairo.ficant is it, the meeting expected to take place? we have learned from israeli media that the israeli delegation has all ready left and most probably it should be in cairo now. according to the israeli media. what has been reported in media, especially after the meeting between presidentjoe biden and the king ofjordan, yesterday, on the table would be a pause in fighting, hoping that it would result in something enduring. now the united states is offering for the table in cairo for those meeting at multi—phased plan, three orfour meeting at multi—phased plan, three or four weeks meeting at multi—phased plan, three orfour weeks ago, now meeting at multi—phased plan, three or four weeks ago, now the case is a six—week phase where there should be a humanitarian pause, during which hostages should be released. and israel is hoping the deal should be agreed as soon as possible. and is really official spoke to bbc news hours ago hoping that this could be donein hours ago hoping that this cou

abdelbassir hassan of bbc arabic, is in cairo. he told us more about what we're likely to see.hat we have learned is from the israeli side so far is that shin bet and mossad heads are expected in cairo and william burns, cia chief plus a top spy official from qatar and the chief of a spy agency in egypt. they should be meeting in cairo today, as per reports, because so far no egyptian confirmation that these teams are already in cairo. all we have got is from western media that the four member teams are going to meet in cairo for a possible discussion on how to get back to the negotiation table in regarding the, like, a truce or a pause between israel and the hamas. and when they discus this pause, from what we've been hearing, give us an idea of how long a pause it might be and what the stumbling blocks are at this stage? no—one can expect how long will it take for the negotiations in cairo. but what we are sure that the teams from israel has already been to cairo and both sides are willing — israel and hamas are willing to come to cairo. israel have said that they are going t

let's speak to the bbc�*s abdelbassir hassan, who is in cairo. welcome to you.nk you for being with us. what do we understand those main differences to be? yes. with us. what do we understand those main differences to be?— main differences to be? yes, so far we cannot — main differences to be? yes, so far we cannot confirm _ main differences to be? yes, so far we cannot confirm there _ main differences to be? yes, so far we cannot confirm there are - main differences to be? yes, so far we cannot confirm there are real i we cannot confirm there are real talks on the ground because there is no venue announced which could be hosting talks since the last round of talks five days ago, after the last round, the israeli delegation left. the qatari foreign minister left. the qatari foreign minister left. and a source in egypt said they were going to continue the talks for three days. now three days have already passed and we are on the fifth day. note statement so far at least from cairo that there are at least from cairo that there are at the moment negotiations. remot