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jeffrey clark kind of rose to prominence >> jeffrey clark is environmental lawyer lower-level person at the department. he was a completely unremarkable figure >> at a january 6 committee hearing, former acting attorney general, jeffrey rosen, testified about president trump's call to him on christmas eve 2020 did he mention our jeff clark's name? >> yes. >> was something about did i know jeff clark or did i know who he was or something like that? i was quizzical as to how does the president even know mr. clark >> rosen confronted clark, directing him to immediately stop having unauthorized contact with the white house but very next morning, clark spoke on the phone again with donald trump hours later, trump phoned rosen, who eventually asked then acting deputy attorney general, richard donoghue to join the call. >> so during this conversation, did did you take handwritten notes directly quoting the president? >> i did. >> so let's now put up the notes. where were you quote the president, just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest of me in the republican congressmen >> he w

jeffrey clark kind of rose to prominence. >> jeffrey clark is environmental lawyer lower-level person at the department. he was a completely unremarkable figure >> at a january 6 committee hearing, former acting attorney general, jeffrey rosen, testified about president trump's call to him on christmas eve, 2020. >> did he mention jeff clark's name? >> yes. >> was something about did i know jeff clark or did i know who he was or something like that? i was quizzical as to how does the president even know mr. clark >> rosen confronted clark, directing him to immediately stop having unauthorized contact with the white house but the very next morning, clark spoke on the phone again with donald trump. >> hours >> later, trump phoned rosen, who eventually asked, then acting deputy attorney general, richard donoghue to during the call. >> so during this conversation, did did you take handwritten notes directly quoting the president? >> i did. >> so let's now put up the notes. where were you, quote the president, just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest of me in the republican con

jeffrey clark kind of rose to prominence. >> jeffrey clark is environmental lawyer, lower level personhe was a completely unremarkable figure >> at a january 6 committee hearing former acting attorney general, jeffrey rosen testified about president trump's call to him on christmas eve, 2020. >> did he mention jeff clark's name? >> yes. >> was something about did i know jeff clark or did i know who he was or something like that? >> i >> was quizzical as to how does the president even know mr. clark >> rosen confronted clark directing him to immediately stop having unauthorized contact with the white house but the very next morning, clark spoke on the phone again with donald trump >> hours >> later, trump phoned rosen who eventually asked then acting deputy attorney general, richard donoghue to join the call so during this conversation, did did you take handwritten notes directly quoting the president? >> i did it. >> so let's now put up the notes. where were you, quote, the president, just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest of me in the republican congressman. >> he wanted

jeffrey clark kind of rose to prominence >> jeffrey clark is environmental lower level person at the department. he was a completely unremarkable figure. >> at a january 6 committee hearing former acting attorney general, jeffrey rosen, testified about president trump's call to him on christmas eve, 2020 did he mention jeff clark's name? >> yes. >> was something about did i know jeff clark or i know who he was or something like that? i was quizzical as to how does the president even know mr. clark? >> rosen confronted clark directing him to immediately stop having unauthorized contact with the white house >> but >> the very next morning, clark spoke on the phone again with donald trump hours later, trump phoned rosen who eventually asked, then acting deputy attorney general, richard donoghue to join the call. >> so during this conversation, did did you take handwritten notes directly quoting the president? >> i did it. >> so let's now put up the notes where you quote the president, just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest of me in the republican congressmen he wanted them

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also with us, jeffrey rosen, a professor at george washington university law school and president and of the national constitution center. thanks so much to both of you for joining us. let's start by reading what we're all talking about here, the 14'd aptment to the u.s. constitution which says, quote, no person shall be a senator or representative in congress or elector of president or vice president or hold any of course, civil or military, under the united states or under any state who having previously taken an oath as a member of congress or as an osser of the united states or as a member of any state legislator or executive or judicial office other of any state to support the constitution of the united states, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. but congress made by a vote of two-thirds of each house remove such disability. judge lidig, you sparked much of this whole debate when you co-wrote the op-ed with liberal scholar larry tribe saying the 14'd amendment automatically excludes trump from the presid