thank you for your time today. >> thank you. >> robert mitchell. >> good afternoon. >> my name is robert mitchell i represent the group pause which is a grassroots group that knows the effect of hiv. and (unintelligible) and also, we are under the umbrella of san francisco very good work they attempted to do and i'm just a volunteer i don't have any particular reports of statistics to share by people in crisis and take a look at one example i believe the number is something like that 800 and 60 people died last year of overdose. what would have been more if not for the people coming together to train (unintelligible) and services are available another example cutting down the transition of hiv. and very well but we should - still in epidemic propositions we'll continue to have more. so i suggesting and hope i shutter to think the services will be cut. and should be done soon and hiv in particular i wanted to stress that a concerted effort that i very much appreciate what you've done with the efforts of commissioners and churches willing to serve the needs and volunteer to to be on the gr

thank you for your time today. >> thank you. >> robert mitchell. >> good afternoon. >> my name is robert mitchell i represent the group pause which is a grassroots group that knows the effect of hiv. and (unintelligible) and also, we are under the umbrella of san francisco very good work they attempted to do and i'm just a volunteer i don't have any particular reports of statistics to share by people in crisis and take a look at one example i believe the number is something like that 800 and 60 people died last year of overdose. what would have been more if not for the people coming together to train (unintelligible) and services are available another example cutting down the transition of hiv. and very well but we should - still in epidemic propositions we'll continue to have more. so i suggesting and hope i shutter to think the services will be cut. and should be done soon and hiv in particular i wanted to stress that a concerted effort that i very much appreciate what you've done with the efforts commissioners and churches willing to serve the needs and volunteer to to be on the groun

mitchell: correct. chief justice roberts: that is an unlikely scenario. mr. mitchell: but no secretary of state is lod to predict a waiver because in doingo they are adding a qualificati t the ability to run for congress. the proper analogy is the state residency law because the constitution says a member of core must inhabit theta he represents when elected. the lower crthave all held a reliance on term limitshaan official cannot move that deadline any earlier by requiring a candidate of congress to inhabit the state -- chief justice roberts: even if a candidate says i am a resident of indiana and i have been all my life and i want to run for office in illinois, the secretary of state cannot s you cannot? mr. mitchell: the question would be is the person going to inhabit the state when the election is held. if the candidate makes clear perhaps through a declarationr through a statement that he has no intti of relocating to that state borelection day, then the secretary of state would benfcing and it stand constuonalualification rather than enforcing a new st

. >> there was a hypothetical but i found interesting that was brought up by chief justice john roberts. he asked jonathan mitchell, who is arguing trump side, whether a self admitted insurrectionist, someone who says, i want to undo constitutional -- of the united states could wind up being eligible to be on a ballot. do you think that is right? so -- let's go back in time, post confederacy, someone who says i want to secede from the union. today belong on a ballot? >> reporter: well, anyone who engaged in an actual rebellion against the united states shouldn't be holding offices or running for office. but i think the point of the question was to get at whether or not one person, a secretary of state, a small group of people, could actually disqualify someone like donald trump who is the leader in the polls. >> your argument would be the january 6th was not an insurrection? it's an argument that's been made multiple times including today by jonathan mitchell. he said it was a riot. would you want the supreme court to weigh in on that? and give their thought on what happened that day to

mitchell: correct. chief justice roberts: that is an unlikely scar. mr. mitchell: but no secretary oftate is allowed to predict a waiver because in doing so they are adding a qlication to the ability to run for congrs. the proper analogy is theta residency law because the constitution says a member of congress must inhabit the state he represents when elected. the lower courts have all held a reliance on term limits that an official cannot move that deadline any earlier by requiring a candidate of congress to inhabit the state -- chief justice roberts: even if a candidate says i am a resident iiana and i have been all life and i want to run for office in illinois, the secretary of state cannot say you cann? mr. mitchell: the question wod be is the person going to inhabit the state when e election is held. if the candidate makes cle perhaps through a dlation or through a statement that he has intention of relocating to that state before election day, then the secretary o state would be enforcing and it stand constitutional qualification rather than enforci

mitchell: correct. chief justice roberts: that is an unlikely scenario. mr. mitchell: but no crary of state is allowed tprict a waiver becausen ing so they are adding a qualification to the ability to run for congress. the proper analogis the state residency law because the constitution ss member of congress must inhabit the state he represents when elected. the lower courts have a hd a reliance on term limits that an official cannot move that deadline any earlier by requiring a candidate of congress to inhabit thste -- chief justice roberts: even if a candidate says i am rident of indiana and i he en all my life and i want to run for office in illinois, the secretaroftate cannot say you cannot? mr. mitchell:he question would be is the person going to inhabit the state when the election is held. if the candidate makes clear perhaps through a declaration or through a statementhahe has no intention of relocating to that state before election day, enhe secretary of state would be enforcingndt stand constitutional qualification rather than enforcing new state imp

thank you, counsel. >> thank you. >> chief justice roberts: rebutt al, mr. mitchell? >> poet rely on the elector's clause authority of each state to direct the manner of appointing presidential electors. that prerogative under article 2 must be exercised in a manner consistent with other constitutional provisions and restrictions. and justice kagan alluded to one of those restrictions that might be imposed by the first amendment. but there are others. a state cannot use its power under article 2's elector's clause to instruct its presidential electors only to vote for white candidates that would violate the equal protection clause nor can it exercise in a manner that would violate the constitutional holding of u.s. term limits against authorton. and they cannot use the elector's clause as an excuse additional qualifications for the presidency to go beyond what the constitution enumerous rates in article 2 the colorado state court changed the criteria in section 3 by making it a requirement that must be met before the candidate holds offie moving forward in time the ca

mitchell: correct. chf stice roberts: that is an unlikely scenario. mr. mihe: but no secretary of state is allowed to predict a waiver because in doing so they are adding a qualification to the ability to run for congress. the proper analogy is t state residenclabecause the constitution says a member of congress must inhabit the state heepresents when elected. the lower courts have all held a reliance on term limits that an ficial cannot move that deadline any earlier by requiring a candidate of congress to inhabit the state -- chief ste roberts: en a candidate says i am a resident of indiana and i have been all my life and i want to run for office in illinois, the secretary of state cannot say you cannot? mr. mitchell: the question would be is the person gog inhabit the state when the election ihe. if the canda makes clear rhs through a declaration or roh a statement that heas no intention of relocango that state before election d, then the secretary of state would be enforcing and it stand constitutional qualificati rather than enforcing a new state imp

chief justice roberts: thank you, counsel. mr. mitchell? mr. mitchell: the statutory definition of machine gun extends only to weapons that fire more than one shot automatically by a single function of the trigger. mr. cargill bump stocks found -- fall outside that for one definition. it can fire only one shot per function of the trigger because the trigger must reset after every shot and function again before another shot can be fired. the trigger is the device that initiates the firing of the weapon, and the function of the trigger is what the firing device must do to cause the trigger to fire. the phrase function of the trigger can refer only to the trigger's function. it has nothing to do with the shooter or what the shooter does to the trigger because the shooter does not have a function. the statute is concerned only with what the trigger does and whether a single function of that trigger produces more than one shot. second, a bump stock equipped rifle does not and cannot fire more than one shot automatically by a single function of the t

chief justice roberts: justice gorsuch. justice gorsuch: i have not had a chance to talk about the officer point. mr. mitchell makes t argument that in the commissions clause, all officers are to be commissioned by the president it seems to be allncpassing, that language. i am curious your response to that. ong the way, i poked at the difference between oicand officer in t oer discussion. one pot ur friends on the outside would make -- on the other side would make is that is how the constitution uses those terms. when you're the president pro tem of the senate and is bigger ofhe house are officers of th united states because the constitution says they are. you al kw they don't hold any office in thuned states cae of the incompatibility clause that says they cannot. maybe the constitution to us to delay reader might look a little odd. not preposio, nouns, a distinction. maybe that is how it works. oughts. mr. murray: i would start with the idea that the meaning of officer in the 1780'is the same meaning today which is a pers

morrow of landing, mayor al morgan of new providence, mitchell morrison of sparta, barbara perkins of warren, dr. nancy polo of scotch plains, herb wydell of berkeley heights, ronald waylan of baskin ridge, dr. rudolph willis of warren, rita jordan of branchford, larry orleans, and riva of bevel deer. of belvedere. with that i yield five minutes to representative langworthy for five minutes. mr. langworthy: thank you very much, mr. speaker. i thank the gentleman from new jersey for yielding the time. this month the national debt hit a record $34 trillion. in fiscal year 2023 alone, the united states owed $659 billion in interest on this debt. and you can expect that number to be much higher this year. these numbers should alarm every american and make it clear that bidenomics is not working. but the american people already know this. the white house has repeatedly lied, publicly praising themselves for a healthy economy and taking credit for a meager post pandemic numbers. the american people aren't buying this false narrative. hard-working americans are still struggling to pay their

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