united auto workers president shawn fain. >> unions!nds of workers in fields from health care to manufacturing hit the picket lines last year, making 2023 the year of the strike. >> working-class people have to realize we have the power. >> reporter: united auto workers president shawn fain led his union to success. >> the billionaires can build all the plants they want. >> reporter: coming up on "sunday morning." shawn fain walking the union line. >>> rod stewart is a rock legend who seems to have done it all. but for his new album, mark phillips tells us he is trying something completely different. ♪ >> reporter: when rod stewart and big band leader jools holland decided to collaborate on a new album of jazzy swing era classic, they had more in common than just the music. they promoted it in a train station, and this is why. >> trains, trains. >> reporter: what do you think you bring to this swing album that wasn't there before? >> [ bleep ] really. >> reporter: hear the real answer ahead on "sunday morning." ♪ >>> after decades in ho

>> well, shawn fain is somebody who uses the media a lot.there's many union leaders you've never seen on television. shawn fain you see a lot. he also uses social media a lot. he has assembled a young staff that is very very committed to kind of getting the message out, so when you get a uaw endorsement now, it isn't just an endorsement on paper, it actually involves a lot of internal organizing and a lot of communications, that matters. the other thing that matters is shawn fain has become something more than just a uaw president. he is a very prominent national personality. people are starting to know his name as representative of unions and many ways, a spokesperson for the working class people. that gives him an ability to communicate not just that the uaw has endorsed biden but why the uaw has endorsed biden and it's the deeper discussions that are particularly beneficial to biden in this case. >> john nichols, good to have you. >>> coming up, georgia could kick out dominion voting systems, what they could be replaced with. >>> israel w

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shawn fain, as always, it's great to have you here. and thank you for joining us on the source. >> thank you. >> up next, the latest from the 2024 campaign trail. >>> tonight, nikki haley is going after former president donald trump, tying his legal troubles to his campaign cash, a lot of it -- $50 million to be exact, according to records from the fcc -- has not actually been spent on campaigning at all. >> get ready to spend more campaign dollars on legal fees. because those court cases have just started. he's got two and march, and they go out for the rest of the year. it is unconscionable to me that a candidate would spend $50 million in legal fees. it explains why he's not doing many rallies. he does not have the money to do it. >> here tonight, republican strategist and pollster kristin soltis anderson also joining me, democratic strategist and adviser to the biden 2020 campaign, alencia johnson. kristen, i will start with you. because i wonder what you make of this new tactic from haley, going after trump and his court cases, bu

shawn fain is articulate in putting out what the choice is between donald trump and president biden. just uaw, every union hall. >> i was there in 2016 as well and you would see it and feel the energy for trump particularly among white working class voters. michigan as we know is one of the most important states on this map. democrats lost it in 2016, joe biden won it back in 2020. polls suggesting he's down right now in michigan, and some of it at least is because of the frustration from the pretty sizable arab american, muslim american population there who don't like how he's supported israel and its conduct in gaza. how big of a concern is this for you? >> i'm going to give you a big picture which is first of all michigan is always a purple state. i chaired the gore campaign in 2000. al gore was down the weekend before the election. he went to flint instead of florida, who knows what would have happened, we won michigan. it's a purple state. and, again, everybody told me i was crazy when i said donald trump was going to win michigan. the polls didn't show it. polls are an indicati

shawn fain is a different kind of leader for the uaw and he has successes to back that up. do you think that divide changes this time around? have you seen evidence that rank and file will be more likely to follow the endorsement? >> i think there is. first of all, the rank and file saw what four years of donald trump actually meant for them. he didn't bring back manufacturing jobs. joe biden has. donald trump would not be supportive of a union strike for a fair wage. joe biden was. the fact that president biden came to the picket lines and stood with the uaw at their moment of truth and helped them deliver an unprecedented contract, no matter what the political strife of a uaw member is, they're getting a big wage increase and joe biden stood with them to get that. that will translate. >> last one before i let you go. we spoke late fall, in 2016, i think probably in the speaker's lobby as we often did, and i could tell you felt something was off. i don't think anyone could predict exactly how that election would go. you felt it on the ground or from your people on the grou

we had on the air a couple of days ago shawn fain the head of the uaw of the united auto workers unionpushing the ev mandates et cetera is against the interests of autoworkers, here is what shawn fain had to a say about that the other day on fox. roll tape.>> >> let me be clear about t this. a great majority o af our membew will not vote foilr president a biden,nd some will but that's te reality of this.s david: i'm just wondering whyde arrse they saying with the teamsters the teamsters leader sean o'brien says he favors oper border policy of the president and yet his members are worrieda about all the illegal truckers coming across the border, thered is a divide between the leadership in society with the democratic party and the members who were more for trump. >> illegal immigration is economic imperative but illegal immigration threatens there livelihoods of union workers and atn wothey know that. when you take a look at the rights that are being infringed by this administrations union worker s know that we just had aha piece looking at the epard final rule that is actually going to

here is what shawn fain had to say about that on fox.te for president biden. yes, some will but that's the reality of this. david: i'm wondering why is the leaders, same is true with the teamsters, teamster leader, sean o'brien, says he favors the open border policy of the president. his members are worried about all the illegal truckers coming across the border. there is a divide between the leadership which sided with the democratic party and the members who are more for trump now? >> yeah. legal immigration is an economic imperative as i said but illegal immigration actually threatens the livelihoods of union workers and they know that. when you look at the rights being infringed by this administration, union workers know that. we just had a part, a piece looking at epa final rule, that is actually going to contribute to hurting the automotive industry. i represent the 10th congressional district in michigan, the number one manufacturing district in the entire nation and automotive, is what we do. aerospace and defense. we've seen our

uaw president shawn fain didn't mince words when talking about the republican frontrunner. >> donald! [cheering] >> stephen: okay. i get where you're coming from, but the polite term is "cold sore american". oh, there's more good news for biden. the economy is cooking right along. the dow's north of 38,000, wages are up, unemployment's below 4% for 23 months in a row, and today the commerce department announced the economy grew at 3.3% rate in the last quarter. what does that mean? well, it's a little technical, but according to macroeconomic theory, number go up equal good. [cheers and applause] is that right? can you check my math? can you check me on that? you got that? for all last year, everyone was predicting a recession, but instead, every economic indicator of bidenomics is positive. or as the news people say it... >> it's an economy that's cooling on the inflation front but still showing growth on the spending front. >> the goldilocks. >> perfect goldilocks scenario. >> we're getting some of that goldilocks. >> it is goldilocks. >> this is goldilocks. >> stephen: "that's rig

fain on a couple weeks ago, the uaw president, of course uaw, its home is inhe detroit.vors biden but not all of hi s members do.av rollor tape. >> look, let me be clear about this. a greal t majority of our membes will not vote for president biden. yet some will. but that's the reality of this. of.th the majority he was willing to say that. >> if the election were heldg today, davidto, liz, donald trur is your 47th president. for this reason. for starters, he's leading in every swing state, that's a poln that came up from the hill, soms by responsible till largehi margins, -ll- relatively largeis margins. he's p up 10 in nevada. he losarolt that state twice.ra five in michigan. if michigan goes to donald a trump, he will win in two groupm will putp, him over the line, b dog,th blue collar workers, especially in the auto industry. they saw what biden did as far as mandates around electric cars and knows how much that hurt them. and black and a hispanic as well. i've got a crazy number. this comes this week and it shows from howard university, they conducted a poll. they

. >> uaw president, shawn fain, hasn't been with him the whole time.now. the announcement, which he did in d.c., was big for the biden administration. allies around biden expressed concern that the big moment dropped not in michigan where the uaw's footprint was not exclusively based but heavily based. that dynamic right now was key to both 2016 and 2020, this fight for the top line union endorsements and the working class actual votes. trump thinks he can win a lot of the union membership votes even if the leadership endorses biden, but this is a knife fight between the two campaigns over this sort of messaging on middle class, blue collar workers. biden much more pro-union, whereas, trump is trying to attract union members with more of a nationalist, economic argument. biden was really trying to amplify the d.c. message in michigan to make sure they get a bump out of it. crucial state, open senate seat, a lot at stake there in michigan. >> it's hard to see a path for the president's win again without michigan. >> very difficult. >> polls show a very

fain, stupid, on the day of the michigan primary.nion in michigan are union members, that's three points higher than the national average, union workers in the state are expected to lean left this evening especially after president biden's concerted efforts to strengthen that support. he received uaw endorsement in january, and he joined the uaw pickle on picket line outside detroit less have number and he's passed legislation that created 30 new clean energy projects in michigan along with a three fold increase in private manufacturing construction. tonight we're going to see if all that worked from team biden has paid off at the ballot box. joining us is josh marshall, founder and editor in chief of talking points memo. thanks for being here. what's the strategy behind calling the president of the uaw stupid on the night of the michigan primary? >> i wouldn't say there is much of a strategy. that's pure trump. if you don't like trump your stupid and an idiot and a loser and all that kind of stuff. i have to imagine that trump is go

fain who last week endorsed the president's re-election effort. this visit is coming to a crucial battleground state, and it's coming at a time where president biden is in a really tense and tough position right now. you look at national polling, a new poll from quinnipiac out today showing president biden leading former president trump by about six points, but then when you look at polls here in michigan, poll after poll showing president biden behind president trump in this crucial battleground state sochlt you see the president trying to shore up his support among core union members. but this trip is coming as there's another key group here, muslim and arab americans who are expressing real frustration and a sense of betrayal from the president right now. they're saying that -- and they're criticizing his response to the israel-hamas war. they're criticizing the fact that he has not called for a cease fire. we've seen protests and we will see a press conference from a coalition group of activists calling for folks here to abandon biden. >> what

fain.ship yesterday in a bit to gain that endorsement, something biden won back in 2020. after the meeting, trump told reporters he thinks there's a good chance he'll earn their support this time around. teamsters' president was a little more measured in his reaction. >> we have a long way to go before we make a decision. there is no doubt about there is union support for president trump. there's always been support for president biden. look, president biden has done a lot of work for union members. he fixed 300 pension funds on the verge of being insolvent, created a lot of jobs and issues that were important to us. but what you've done in the past does not guarantee you the support of us. we want to know what you're going to do for our members going forward. >> here you have joe biden being the most pro-union president in a generation maybe and doing so many things, while you had donald trump working nonstop undercutting unions, undercutting the board, undercutting laws that would help th