tara setmayer, stay with me. it's not just the rnc that's messy right now. live pictures from the senate floor where lawmakers are voting for a border deal and an aid package that will not pass. there's continuing dysfunction on the republican side over this, and the vote follows that stunning duel loss for speaker mike john son on the house floor, failing to impeach the dhs secretary, and failing to pass the stand alone aid bill for israel. that is something that former speaker nancy pelosi always considered kind of the mortal sin of politics. >> you have to have your votes. don't worry about the other side. you have to have your votes. you know what is a majority. if you don't have that, don't bring it to the floor. >> nbc's chief political analyst, chuck todd joins me now. you describe in this great article that you were up for nbc.com, the current state of american politics, for a family audience, i'm going to call it mubar, messed up beyond recognition. >> well said. >> i want to start with what you put as reason one. donald trump's control over the gop

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and tara setmayer, senior adviser to the lincoln project and former republican communications director. welcome to you both. so tara, this is a moment. the party is now fully trump. it is based -- its base is his, its infrastructure is his, its dollars and donors are his. how does this all turn out? >> well, i would argue, michael, that the party has been his for quite some time. and you mentioned mitch mcconnell earlier in your setup, and you know, mitch mcconnell had an opportunity to vanquish trump as did many republicans after january 6th. i mean, the guy led a violent insurrection against the united states and, you know, for the first time ever in history, a peaceful transition of power was interrupted. and incited by donald trump. that wasn't enough. and mitch mcconnell at the time gave a speech of his career about donald trump and about what he did, but yet, used some constitutional argument to say, well, it should be in the courts. we shouldn't do it here. where they could have convicted him in the senate and we wouldn't be here now because donald trump would no longer be eligi

i'm joined by my panel, tara setmayer, senior advisor at the lincoln project and a former gop -- andards, msnbc political analyst. ladies, great to have both of you with us. tara, i will start with you. we've known johnson has had these ties to christian nationalism, but these new details really bring it to a whole other level. what does it say that someone with these affiliations has, a, held this powerful position for 100 days now and, when b, a second in line to the presidency. >> that's his prerogative. he is entitled to believe what he wants to believe. however, as a secular nation, the american people do not have to vote for that agenda. i think it is incumbent upon democrats running in 2024 to point out, this is what johnson believes, this is who he associates with, and this is how we would like to legislate. are these the types of people you won in power? that is the goal here. call the idea of christian nationalism, christian dominion -ism, has really become a spotlight because of how many of these people have been given these -- this has existed for a long-time. there's alw

i'm joined by my panel, tara setmayer, senior advisor at the lincoln project and a former gop -- andds, msnbc political analyst. ladies, great to have both of you with us. tara, i will start with you. we've known johnson has had these ties to christian nationalism, but these new details really bring it to a whole other level. what does it say that someone with these affiliations has, a, held this powerful position for 100 days now and, when b, a second in line to the presidency. >> that's his prerogative. he is entitled to believe what he wants to believe. however, as a secular nation, the american people do not have to vote for that agenda. i think it is incumbent upon democrats running in 2024 to point out, this is what johnson believes, this is who he associates with, and this is how we would like to legislate. are these the types of people you won in power? that is the goal here. call the idea of christian nationalism, christian dominion- ism, has really become a spotlight because of how many of these people have been given these -- this has existed for a long-time. there's alway

errin haines and tara setmayer, thank you both for this conversation. >>> a quick programming note, just black man in america, the road to 2024. it's going to air today at four pm eastern on msnbc. of course, you can always streamed on peacock. >>> coming up in the next hour of "velshi", supreme court watchers agree that this high court seems posed to hand donald trump a very big victory against those who are seeking to keep him off the ballot. well, my next guest also sees a silver lining for jack smith's election interference case in that supreme court handling of the 14th amendment. i am charles coleman jr., and another hour of "velshi" on this super bowl sunday begins after a quick break. ali will be back in this msnbc seat. but until then, i'm gonna be burning in this msnbc streets. see you soon. ♪ ♪ ♪ see you soon. ♪ ♪ ♪ all parts working in sync to move your business forward. with a streamlined shipping network. and new, high-speed processing and delivery centers. for more value. more reliability. and more on-time deliveries. the united states postal service is built for how you b

tara setmayer, and here in studio, msnbc legal analyst, lisa rubin. before we get into the legal questions, i want to play a little bit of an interview that our colleague, laura jarrett, did with an ivf patient at that alabama hospital where now plans are in limbo. let's listen. >> my rage knows no bounds. i just want to be a mom, and, yeah, it's wild to me. it's wild to me that the state i have called home has more say over that than i do right now. i have no clue if it means that i need to move to another state in order to have children. >> i mean, just to be clear, this didn't start as the fight over whether ivf could or could not be performed. this was a worker who dropped frozen embryos when they were being moved, they became unusable, and that led to a suit over the question of wrongful death. right? >> yes. >> so that's why the hospital, the university of alabama hospital and these other places are so nervous, right, because this could expand far beyond the original issue. >> absolutely. and it could involve situations like embryo transfer as w

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joining us on our panel tonight is tara setmayer, a resident scholar at the uva's center for politics former communication director for the republican party, and peter walker, political correspondent for the guardian. nikki haley says she won't drop out of the presidential bid even if she loses in south carolina. at the united nations security council, the united states again vetoes a draft resolution demanding an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in gaza. the world health organization says it's led high—risk missions to save critical patients from gaza's nasser hospital under siege from israel. good evening. the republican primary in south carolina is four days away, and were the state's former governor nikki haley to win it, it would probably be the biggest upset since buster douglas duffed up mike tyson. itjust ain't going to happen. the latest poll out today from usa today puts her almost 30 points behind donald trump, with an even slimmer chance ahead. even if haley reprised her modest success in new hampshire, in every state that is voting over the next four weeks, trump would st

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joining me now for more on the 2024 race, tara setmayer.r to the lincoln project, former comms director for the gop, and resident scholar at the va center for politics. rick wilson cofounder of the lincoln project, republican media strategist, and the author of running against the double. a plot to save america from trump in democrats from themselves. i was thinking about just saying it's the tehran rick show. i'm gonna sit back and let y'all talk. but it is my show! >> it is your show! >> beauty before age, rick. tara, i'm gonna start with you. south carolina is the next big contest for nikki haley to try to stop trump. she is downed double digits, no big surprise, in most polls even in our own hail stated. her hail mary is a combined anti trump republicans, independents, and maybe democrats are not gonna vote in the primary today. should we expect a campaign suspension speech in the next few days from her? >> the hail mary is accurate here. she is down by a considerable amount. i do not know anyone in recent political history who has come