i am now joined by the u. t. taylor, the project manager for the south african creative industries incubator and now runs the incubation program for the beautiful things exhibition. here to you, welcome to ask feedbacks, what is the south african creative industries incubator? and how does it fit in with the women's living heritage one you meant? um, so the, so that you can kind of industries incubate to is a creative incubate to that going to base creatives within the creative sick to we give them the business skills and knowledge that they need. because for the longest time, all industries be known as the song and dance age by the news to report a death of alexi, nevada. and he bravely stood up to the corruption, the violence, all the, all the bad things of that wouldn't come. he was doing the response to it and had them toys, and he had them arrested and prosecuted for fabricated crimes. he says that the prison is held him nice solutions. even all that didn't stop from, from calling out, whose lives even in pr