i was interviewing men in a bar in the deep in what's called zululand, kwazulu natal, and they basicallytheir attitude was, i might get this disease. i might not, you know, some of the men that i was interviewing were policemen and policemen were being killed for their guns every day in that part of president athol. and one of them said, you know, i, i do not see the danger of this. you know, shaka said men must go forward and get something. and what he meant was, you know, the old napoleon of southern africa said the men must go into battle. even in those days, the men had had to have proven themselves in battle before they were allowed to marry or have kids. and there was this kind of it's not a death wish, but there was this kind of indifference to a disease that might or might not kill them ten years ago. and, you know, i find that at some point or another in a lot of pandemics, a lot of people develop a sort of sense of fatalism, i think, in with aids in this country, many you know, even when tests for aids became created, a lot of men did not want to get tested because a test was b

i was interviewing men in a bar in the deep in what's called zululand, kwazulu natal, and they basicallytheir attitude was, i might get this disease. i might not, you know, some of the men that i was interviewing were policemen and policemen were being killed for their guns every day in that part of president athol. and one of them said, you know, i, i do not see the danger of this. you know, shaka said men must go forward and get something. and what he meant was, you know, the old napoleon of southern africa said the men must go into battle. even in those days, the men had had to have proven themselves in battle before they were allowed to marry or have kids. and there was this kind of it's not a death wish, but there was this kind of indifference to a disease that might or might not kill them ten years ago. and, you know, i find that at some point or another in a lot of pandemics, a lot of people develop a sort of sense of fatalism, i think, in with aids in this country, many you know, even when tests for aids became created, a lot of men did not want to get tested because a test was b