now, my next guest this evening is kevin courtney, who was joint general secretary of the national educationeducation union at the time the pandemic. he the time of the pandemic. he says no choice says schools had no choice but to close as the virus was rife and it would have been unsafe to keep them open. kevin joins me now. you for joining keep them open. kevin joins me now. you forjoining us. now. thank you for joining us. >> pleased to be here. >> pleased to be here. >> the teachers unions were amongst the most strident, weren't they, in their calls for the schools to close, even when other voices said they should open. how do you look back on that now? >> well, you know, you make decisions in the light of the information you've got, the science that you understand at the time. so i look back on it and i think that we made the right calls. i do need to say the schools were never closed , the schools were never closed, completely closed because they were always to key worker were always open to key worker children children children and vulnerable children at there were at every period. bu

courtney , will talk with me courtney, will talk with me about why schools had no choice but to shutmy panellist, political commentator and friend ralph shellhammer. but first, an update on the

courtney is monitoring lululemon plus portfolio manager kevin mccarthy on nike's earnings and the outlookx, stock is been on a run here. what should we expect. you know, little bit of a run recently but fedex chairs are before the market you're today and they're outperforming their rival, u.p.s. winter weather warning, -- expecting a muted quarter that covers the beginning of december through february. this is a company that also trades on margin and this quarter it is increasingly important as a read on the company's cost-cutting plan. this is the last quarter before fedex consolidates its three units, express, grinded and freight into one company. the area to watch for the quarter is express air delivery. it generates half of all revenue but is a key area for cuts. evan -- revenue will fall slightly year-over-year but margin is the big thing here. that's a thing to watch as a company tries to write the fleet and staffing. the estimate 1.1% margin on worldwide exchange earlier today telling me that will be the lowest margin since the bank is begun covering this stock. a lot to watch in t