i remember manafort and roger stone? >> both >> convicted of crimes later, they were pardon and commuted in different ways by donald trump korea, luan tao see of course, fire from the 26 campaign at one point then sort of brought back on christina, bob, all over some of the election conspiracies in 2020. so an augusta group of advisers circling around donald trump again, with this now seeing and political commentator and former white house communications director for donald trump, alyssa farah griffin. that's quite a list of people that are apparently making their way back closer to donald trump. what does that tell you? >> so listen, there are a handful of characters that existed in trump world that never really went away. i'd add steve bannon to this as well. who are these outside advisors that donald trump at times has had falling out with but then can't somehow can't bring himself to get away from its trump actually, who feels the pull back to someone like a roger stone, or as steve bannon who command a certain holdo

the black being charles black, and the stone being none other than roger stone. the trump foot soldier and nixon zealot who would one day get pardoned by trump for multiple felony convictions. stone is the one you see there in the center, manafort is on the left. per "the washington post," one of manafort and stone's first clients was a new york developer named donald j. trump, brought into their portfolio by stone who had met him through the notorious gotham lawyer, roy cohn. you can't make this up. but as all of this firm stuff was happening, manafort cooked up this side hustle that eventually blew into quite the lucrative gig. but not necessarily one you wrote home about because manafort's specialty became working for literally the world's worst people. he was this mercenary lobbyist, one of his clients was former philippine president ferdinand marcos who hired him when he needed an image boost. the year after he hired manafort in 1986, marcos won the country's presidential election, thanks to rampant voter fraud. his wi imela became famous for shoe hoarding w

but now that he is the presumptive nominee, that everyone is descending, roger stone was at mar-a-lago. you're seeing all these stories about the paul manafort and cortland ascii, who by the way, don't like each other maybe going on the rnc together and it's just this very dynamic fluid situation now that he is the nominee and canvas chris lacivita, susie wiles had been leading the campaign. can they keep them out? we don't know. >> just to be clear, you're not the one calling them the crazys. it's the campaign professionals going them. the crazys. i just want to make sure alice, you're like, i don't know if i would use that term crazy, colorful might be one term, but the one thing they all haven't somewhere between the two. yes. exactly the common thread with all of these people. they are loyal to donald trump, yes, to a fault that despite all of the issues surrounding them personally they would not only go to bat for him, they would go to the mat for him and they would certainly go to jail for him and that is why they are coming back into the fold. and that is what donald trump is lo

but now that he is the presumptive nominee, that everyone is descending, roger stone was that mar-a-lago, you're seeing all these stories about the paul manafort and cortland ascii, who by the way, don't like each other. maybe going on the rnc together and it's just this very dynamic fluid situation now that he is the nominee and canvas the chris lacivita, susie wiles have been leading campaign. can they keep them out? we don't know, >> just to be clear, you're not the one calling them the crazys. it's the campaign professionals going them. the crazy is i just want to make sure alice, you're like, i don't know if i would use that term crazy colorful might be one term, but the one thing they all haven't somewhere between the yes, exactly the common thread with all of these people they are loyal to donald trump, yes, to a fault, the despite all of the issues surrounding them personally, they would not only go to bat for him, they would go to the mat for him and they would certainly go to jail for him. and that is why they are coming back into the fold. and that is what donald trump is look

i was hired by c and i got an offer, and i called, i was on a phone call with roger stone. and i said to roger, i got this offer from cnn, should i take it? and he said, of course, take it and plan for what you get fired. and within about 3 months i was fired. and i, i've done live in, obviously had a plan to go on and get fired. he was a must cuz you're not going to say, 0100 degree. i think this is what the online month. one of those guys who has a view of the world that's very different from most of us who now i've been in lighting the little bit more. i think he really thinks everything the state department does is great. everywhere we do is great. democrats are smarter than republicans, etc, etc. i really believe he believes that and things must continue crap. well, there's also a reason why don lemon was voted one of the worst journalists. and because he makes his personal agenda, seemingly journalism, he should've asked the alarm us. why is he afraid to fly on airplanes when there are black pilots in the cockpit? and that would have been a relevant question to ask. d

i was hired by c and i got an offer and i call i was on a phone call with roger stone. and i said to roger, i got this offer from cnn, should i take it? and he said, of course, take it and plan for what you get fired. and within about 3 months i was fired. and i, i've done live in, obviously had a plan to go on and get fired. he was a must cuz you're not going to say, 0100 degree. i think this is what the online month. one of those guys who has a view of the world that's very different for most of us who now have been in light and a little bit more. i think he really thinks everything the state department does is great. everywhere we do is great. democrats are smarter than republicans, etc, etc. i really believe he believes that and things must continue crap. well, there's also a reason why don lemon was voted one of the worst journalists. and because he makes his personal agenda seemingly journalism, he should've asked the alarm of why is he afraid to fly on airplanes when there are black pilots in the cockpit. and that would have been a relevant question to ask. did h

and i called i was on a phone call with roger stone. and i said, roger, i got this offer from cnn, should i take it? and he said, of course, take it and plan for what you get fired. and within about 3 months, i was fired. and i don't live in obviously had a plan to go on and get fired. he was, i must, was not going to say, oh, a 100 degree. i think this is what the online month. one of those guys who has a view of the world that's very different for most of us who now have been in light and a little bit more. i think he really thinks everything the state department does is great. everywhere we do is great. democrats are smarter than republicans, etc, etc. i really believe he believes that and things must continue press. well, there's also a reason why the limit was voted one of the worst journalists. and because he makes his personal agenda seemingly journalism, he should've asked the law most why is he afraid to fly on airplanes when there are black pilots in the cockpit? and that would have been a relevant question to ask. did he said

stone stone.e time is a full we are just about out of it. if you both wanted to have quick follow ups, we can we can do that. it's up to you you. how surprised both of you would be if trump wins. jacob, here is a model. you know, come i would i would be surprised. i mean, i because i again, i think that he is sold this product successfully once but has been unable to do so but would i be would i be thunderstruck. no mean it's happened once before and it's certainly possible. but i think in 2016 trump was vastly underestimated. i don't think that's to occur again. i think it could tell me how you deal with the china question. i know you mentioned asia first, but specifically the people you consider isolationists on the right. whether, you know, obviously they would but many you know many of them actually not have any affinity for the one of the inside probably the biggest dictator in the world is xi jinping, arguablso how does thar thesis? are you talking about in the 1950s? so aside from the fact

stone stone. because time is a full we are just about out of it. if you both wanted to have quick follow ups, we can we can do that. it's up to you you. how surprised both of you would be if trump wins. jacob, here is a model. you know, come i would i would be surprised. i mean, i because i again, i think that he is sold this product successfully once but has been unable to do so but would i be would i be thunderstruck. no mean it's happened once before and it's certainly possible. but i think in 2016 trump was vastly underestimated. i don't think that's to occur again. i think it could tell me how you deal with the china question. i know you mentioned asia first, but specifically the people you consider isolationists on the right. whether, you know, obviously they would but many you know many of them actually not have any affinity for the one of the inside probably the biggest dictator in the world is xi jinping, arguably far more important than putin. so how does that fit into your thesis? are y

i was hired by c and i got an offer, and i called, i was on a phone call with roger stone. and i said to roger, i got this offer from cnn, should i take it? and he said, of course, take it and plan for what do you get fired. and within about 3 months, i was fired and i've done love and obviously had a plan to go on and get fired. he was a must cuz you're not going to say, 0100 degree. i think this is what the on. lemme is one of those guys who has a view of the world that's very different from most of us who now i've been in lighting the little bit more. i think he really thinks everything the state department does is great. everywhere we do is great. democrats are smarter than republicans, etc, etc. i really believe he believes that and things must continue crap. well, there's also a reason why don lemon was voted one of the worst journalists. and because he makes his personal agenda seemingly journalism, he should've asked the law most why is he afraid to fly on airplanes when there are black pilots in the cockpit? and that would have been a relevant question to ask. did

roger stone talked to trump about every day and kept him briefed. stone has been known for doing that kind of thing. >> do you think, robert, that sometimes when there are these attacks on whether attacks on on trump, whether they're or not, it they're justified or not, it kind of plays into his hands a little bit and that maybe as a provocateur, which i'm sure he is, putting this out here is, he's putting this out here precisely to get the kind of reaction that he now reaction that he is now currently . currently getting. >> well, he loves being in the press, good or bad, but his polls have been dropping since he lost those financial court cases in new york. and the jean carroll case that the two of them, and with the more information that comes out and the evidence and all of that of what he has done, in the fake electors and, and in the filegate and all of that, as more of that comes out, he's losing independents and republicans . you know, that the republicans. you know, that the polls have moved. i said to jim clyburn, i sat there and watched t

it reminds me when amy berman jackson, roger stone had posted a picture with cross hairs next to her, and she said, you couldn't find another photo that didn't have that there? and judges, i think, bend over backwards, but it will be interesting to see whether judge marchan does expand it, but i would just like to step back to, it is true that you see this and you think, it's just donald trump. it's just donald trump. more of the same. it is really important not to just normalize this. i mean, so many people talk about sort of predicting what would a trump 2.0 administration be, and should we really think he's going to be a dictator and what will happen. and my response to that is you can look right now at what he's doing and saying, and for people who are fair minded, i would say what do you say about somebody who attacks the daughter of a judge? >> that's right. >> i mean, is there no depth to which he will not descend? it's so important to not get inured to what this is. >> the bottom line is the reason he's attacking judge marchan and his family is the same reason he attacks jack

stone effect optics and he chose not to.in i do not know who rents his campaign but they are doing a horrible job -- to your point about donald trump, i come from middle america, the thing that they love about donald trump is that he comes that he is. they do not try to wear blue jeans or cowboy boots or try to be one of us, but he still is one of us and he cares about us and he cares about the forgotten americans and he doesn't have to pretend to be one, he doesn't have to pretend to understand the plight of those smaller folks out there, but he can still resonate with them because he cares about them from a very genuine place. it was proven yet again yesterday where he stood with the law enforcement community. you can see how much he truly cares not for fame or optics, and they wanted him there which speaks more to how much the law enforcement community appreciates that man. >> emily: i remember the exit polls for those who have voted for donald trump, and they said that it's because he fights for people like me. again tha

it's not surprising, another trump associate that spent time in prison, roger stone, also back in the orbit. he was at mar-a-lago on super tuesday. it's a pattern for donald trump to bring folks back at some point in his long political career. >> thank you both so very much. >>> now to capitol hill where congress appears closer to avoiding a partial government shutdown over the weekend. congressional leaders struck a tentative deal last night to fund the homeland security department, which would pave the way for lawmakers to process the remaining package. with us now, capitol hill's jake sherman, founder of punchbowl news and an msnbc contributor. yesterday at this hour we spoke with senator kunes. >> there's a shutdown and then a shutdown, and there's two things to consider. yes, they have a deal on funding the department of homeland security through september 30th, and that's important because a deal is better than no deal. but they don't have text for this deal, and it's a weird kirk here on capitol hill, and they come to the agreement and they have to draft the bills and make sure

he unleashed roger stone, his sleazy friend with the nixon tattoo on his back who was later convictedwitness tampering and lying to congress. to announce the big lie. >> let's just hope we're celebrating. i suspect it will be -- i really do suspect it will be up in the air. when that happens the key thing to do is to claim victory. possession is nine tenths of the law. we won. sorry. [ bleep ] you. you're wrong. >>> joining me now is matthew dowd, former republican strategist and dr. uche blk blackstock and author of "legacy" a black physician reckons with racism in medicine. thank you both for being here. dr., uche blackstock, as a physician, as a medical professional, how do you feel in your spirit when people literally seem to have forgotten the million covid dead and try to remember the trump era as somehow a good time. >> well, joy, thank you so much for having me on. and watching that compilation of videos was just so incredibly sobering. i will tell you that that leak was the first time in my life i felt scared to go to work. it wasn't just me. it was all of my colleagues becau

roger stone was charged and convicted and sentenced to prison: trump white house national security advisormichael flynn was charged and convicted. trump's campaign advisor george popodop. steve ban nonwas charged he's been sentenced to prison. trump's business was itself found guilty of tax fraud. sidney powell have pled guilty to election related crimes. and now tomorrow, another one of trump's white house advisors peter navarro is due to report to start serving his sentence in federal prison. it's not like manafort is the only one in stripes. you sign up for the trump campaign and they ask you what side they should make your jump suit. he has surrounded himself with people who are very comfortable with the criminal side of the ledger. manafort because of his background stands apart as a very specific kind of criminal in donald trump's world. as such, there's one last aspect of this. the part of it that we won't believe years from now when we look back on a news day like this and say, do you believe this happened? and the last part of this i would just ask you to consider as the very spec

trump adviser and campaign aide roger stone was charged and sentence to prison. trump national security adviser michael flynn was charged and convicted. trump's campaign adviser george papadopoulos was convicted and sentenced to prison. allen weisselberg was sentenced and convicted to prison. trump's chief strategic steve bannon was sentenced to prison pending appeal for defying a subpoena.pe trump's business was itself found guilty of tax fraud. two trump lawyers kenneth chesebro and sidney powell have pleaded guilty to election related crimes. and now tomorrow peter navarro is due to report to start serving his sentence in federal prison. it's not like manafort is the only one in stripes, right? that's how these guys role. t you sign up for the trump p campaign, they ask you what sizh should they make your jumpsuit. but even apart from all the pa indictments of trump himself, he has surrounded himself with people who are very comfortabled with the criminal side of the ledger. manafort because of his background stands apart as a very specific kind of criminal in

no surprise, he once had a lobbying and consulting firm with another trump part and convict, roger stone. it was manafort's deep ties to foreign clients, including a russian oligarch and the pro- russian former government of ukraine that raised eyebrows after the kremlin attack on the 2016 election. i wonder why. investigators from the probe and the senate intel committee both found that manafort regularly exchanged information with a russian intelligence operative. that russian operative was this guy, constantine clinic, and he's currently wanted by the fbi for ongoing efforts to interfere in american politics. in dealing with human 2016, manafort handed over trumps internal polling data, share the campaigns plan to win your election and even discussed specific battleground states. of course, as the u.s. treasury department later confirmed, klimnik faithfully relayed all that information to his bosses in the russian intelligence services. if that wasn't bad enough, an investigation by the senate intelligence committee later revealed that the two pieces of information which are redacted

this is all too reminiscent of roger stone who in 2019 posted a photo with a federal judge presiding over his case with target cross hairs posted to the side of her head. this is in addition to stone's references to robert muller as a quote hit man. unquote. >> joining now to discuss all of this is nancy gertner, a form judge and lecturer at harvard. so what is new is that a number of federal judges have spoken out about these attacks on the judiciary. what do you make of these developments? is this welcome or something that gives you pause? >> they called to question and said this is beyond the pale. what he is doing is beyond the pale. this is the third judge who understood it is not about the usual concerns you know, about a fair trial which is terribly important. intimidating potential jurors. this is about intimidating witnesses and court staff, and basically undermining an orderly and regular trial. it is a good thing that federal judges have spoken out and it speaks to how extraordinary this is. how extraordinary a moment this is. >> judge, i would like to pivot to the gag ord

stone stone.t about out of it. if you both wanted to have quick follow ups, we can we can do that. it's up to you you. how surprised both of you would be if trump wins. jacob, here is a model. you know, come i would i would be surprised. i mean, i because i again, i think that he is sold this product successfully once but has been unable to do/2 so but would i be would i be thunderstruck. no mean it's happened once before and it's rty possible. but i think in 2016 trump was vastly underestimated. i don't think that's to occur again. i think it could tell me how you deal with the china question. i know you mentioned asia first, but specifically the people you consider isolationists on the right. whether, you know, obviously they would but many you know many of them actually not have any affinity for the one of the inside probably the biggest dictator in the arguably far moe important than putin. so how does that fit into your thesis? are you talking about 1950s? so aside from the fact that trump li

hiring paul manafort, that's what he did, they understood and had seen the polls, roger stone is admitting we're going to say we won. if you're signaling i'm losing here, why would anybody give him money? >> let's be real. the die hards are never going to drop this man, no matter how many elections they lose, no matter how much of a drag he is on the infrastructure of the republican party. they're sticking beside him. i also think the other indicator of panic and trump feeling the walls closing in on him is that preumpative fund-raiser email that went off that said keep your hands off my property. i think one of the things that new york attorney general letitia james is going to be explicitly clear about is not giving him that photo op. trump is already out there saying you're trying to seize my property. these people are extremists, but the reality is, she's smart enough to file the lien paperwork and let it ride. but trump is absolutely looking for that same base of supporters to keep giving him money. i think the other factor here is legally, there are caps on individual contributions t

this is all too reminiscent of trump crony roger stone.s is in addition to stone's references to special counsel robert mueller as a quote hit man. unquote. >> we have nancy gertner. welcome judge. >> great to be on with you guys. >> thanks so much for being here. these attacks on the judiciary are obviously nothing new for donald trump. but what is new is that a number of federal judges have spoken out about these attacks on the judiciary and its i'll partiality. what do you make of those developments? is this welcome that the federal judiciary is speaking out or is this something that gives you pause? >> no, it's very welcome to me. this is not part of a civilized society of law and order. and it is -- it is about time that someone sort of called the question and said this is beyond the pale. what he is doing is beyond the pale. that at least now this is the third judge who understood that it's not about the usual concerns, you know. about a fair trial. which is terribly important. and you know, intimidating potential jurors. this is abo

also, this guy, roger stone, whose sentence was commuted by trump after he was convicted for obstructingbe into his 2016 campaign. with me now, danielle moody. and dean. what do you make of this? these thugs, these cronies, bringing them back into the mix. what does it say about what is in stock and what's ahead? >> the reality is that now for the trump campaign, this is like street cred for them. they love it. if you were willing to go to jail for donald trump, then it is loyalty. he is a mobster. he is a mob boss. this is what he loves. and so, you know that if you have already served two years, if you already paid out in fines, he knows he can count on you so he is scurrying all the rats from the sewer coming to knock on the door. >> there are a lot of people staying close to donald trump and trying to get close into the maga world like the south dakota governor who is apparently undergoing a maga- fication with a recent dental procedure. what do you make of that attempt to get into trump's appearance criteria? >> she has gone from someone from the midwest to someone on jersey shore.

stone marino, the head of a special civil rights department at health and human services, late jeanilton, who helped to mention here -- the child separation policy office aren't calling on president trump, essentially, if he is reelected, if he would be a future president trump, start enforcing the comstock act as basically a de facto ban on abortions, not just abortion drugs, but any abortion related item or the receipt of any abortion related item in any state by anyone. again, these are not random people. the antiabortion movement is people who have president donald trump -- what would be president donald trump -- his ear, working closely with him in his post-presidential years. i think it is absolutely a concern.we already know that two of the supreme court justices open to the theory that this is what the comstock act means. not, by any means, a slamdunk. a lot of this is a question raised, i think, serious concerns about whether or not this theory makes any sense at all, you know, but what people in power are going to be attracted to is the law sitting there, waiting for them

stone but it was manafort deep ties to clients including a russian oligarch and the pro- russian formerrows after the 2016 election. investigators both found that manafort regularly exchanged information with a russian intelligence operative, that was this guy, constantine, and he is wanted for his ongoing efforts to interfere in american politics, in dealing with him, manafort shared the campaigns plan to win the election and discussed specific battleground states . of course as the treasury department later confirmed, he relayed all the information to his bosses in the russian intelligence services. if that wasn't bad enough, an investigation by the intelligence committee revealed that the two pieces of information which are redacted from the report raised the possibility of manafort potential connection to the operations. now, we all know manafort was swept up in the robert mueller probe waged -- he was part of the kremlin effort to have false narratives ahead of the election and their goal was to damage you asked ties to ukraine, denigrated biden and benefits trump's prospects for r

trump adviser and campaign aide roger stone was charged and sentence to prison. trump national security adviser michael flynn was charged and convicted. trump's campaign adviser george papadopoulos was convicted and sentenced to prison. allen weisselberg was sentenced and convicted to prison. trump's chief strategic steve bannon was sentenced to prison pending appeal for defying a subpoena. trump's business was itself found guilty of tax fraud. two trump lawyers kenneth chesebro and sidney powell have pleaded guilty to election related crimes. and now tomorrow peter navarro is due to report to start serving his sentence in federal prison. it's not like manafort is the only one in stripes, right? that's how these guys role. you sign up for the trump campaign, they ask you what size should they make your jumpsuit. but even apart from all the indictments of trump himself, he has surrounded himself with people who are very comfortable with the criminal side of the ledger. manafort because of his background stands apart as a very specific kind of criminal in donald tr

donald trump is an expert at that through roger stone. he also uses humiliation.f lindsey graham, who had said in 2016, if we nominate trump, we will get destroyed and we will deserve it, and now he is out there, playing this dictator game of ritual humiliation to keep people in line and remind them of what awaits them if they open their mouths and say the wrong things. >> i have to ask you, congressman, about one republican, that has not endorsed trump yet. nikki haley. she has hinted she may not endorsed him, but do you think she will pull a mcconnell and come around? >> well, i think the safe bet is that nikki haley will eventually support donald trump, but i truly do believe that she is exploring other options. she is keeping everything on the table. some people i know have tried to recruit her to run with a third party. i think nikki haley is keeping her powder dry, but if we go by the past behavior of almost every republican, who is aspiring to elected office, or who is in elected office, they ultimately end up falling in line. >> ruth, what typically happen

stone, who in 2019, posted a photo of the federal judge presiding over his case with target crosshairs posted to the side of her head. this is in addition to stones references to special counsel robert mueller as a hitman. >> joining us now to discuss all these developments is nancy gardner, former united states federal judge and senior lecturer at harvard law school. welcome. >> great to be on with you guys. >> thanks so much for being here. these attacks on the judiciary are obviously nothing new for donald trump, but what is new is the number of federal judges have spoken out about these attacks on the judiciary and its impartiality, and this is really not business as usual for federal judges. what you make of these developments? is this well, that the federal judiciary is speaking out or is it something that gives you pause? >> no, it is very welcome to me. this is not part of a civilized society of law and order, and it is about time that someone sort of called the question and said that this is beyond the pale. what he is doing is beyond the pale, at least now, this is the third

stone, who i spoke to last night about this very question. listen to what he told me. >> i don't buy this idea that a nikki haley voter would necessarily be a trump voter in the fall. >> reporter: does he need to do anything to encourage nikki haley voters to be trump voters in the fall? he has to find votes somewhere. >> i don't disagree with that. on the other hand, i think the economic conditions are going to drive that. >> reporter: that's been the bottom line from all the trump advisers who i have been speaking to about this issue over the last couple of weeks. this will not be a pull from donald trump. it will be a push from joe biden they believe to the degree that the nikki haley voters are gettable for donald trump. >> kelly, let's talk about that. president biden is already reaching out to haley voters, posting on x, you don't have to agree with me on everything to know maga extremism is a threat to our country. we need everyone on board. join our campaign. how does he find common ground? where are the biggest opportunities for the

the speakers every year are your standard collection of roger stones and sloppy steves and flat eartherswith a few foreign dictators and accused sexual predators sprinkled in. [ laughter ] the bigly name today, the headliner was trump's daughter-in-law, lara, who is running for chairperson of the rnc and really has a way with the english language. >> never forget, ladies and gentlemen, it is always darkest before the "don." d-o-n, darkest before the don. see what i did? >> jimmy: yeah, yeah, they don't but we do, we get it. [ laughter ] anyway, go on. >> i want my son to be proud of who he is. i want him to know that it's okay to be a patriot. it's okay to love god. and it is okay to grow up into a strong, masculine man. >> jimmy: that's right. strong, masculine man. just like daddy is. [ laughter ] look at the rack on that dude. >> every night, eric and i have a tradition. we stop whatever we have going on and we go do bedtime with the kids. and while they say their prayers and the pledge of allegiance, of course -- >> jimmy: what a sweet memory for your children to share with their the

roger stone knew it. trump's campaign knew it.ned about a red mirage, and i knew it. so they decided to just lie and get trump's millions of super fans that he didn't lose. it wasn't just stolen. it wasn't just stolen from him, but from them. now how do you do that? well, first, you take advantage of the fact that states needed to react to the covid pandemic by finding a way for voters to cast ballots and gathering in person and spreading the virus. so what if you say by doing that, states make an emergency accommodation to allow folks to vote absentee from home or put their ballots in drop boxes was really a way to steal the election. . >> one thing that has changed is the way many people are voting this year. in 2018, michiganders overwhelmingly approved proposal 3 which allows no reason absentee voting. republicans aren't happy about the mail-in system. >> we're really concerned about michigan that are upending their entire election process this close to an election, that that could wreak havoc. >> and what if you even get your

stone, michael flynn, all of them both of them were convicted and then part and so these are all people around donald trump who face meaningful criminal consequences. whether donald trump himself would join that list, we will see in the months ahead, all this comes as you know, ellie, as trump has just filed his brief, urging the us supreme court to rule, he has absolute presidential immunity. what are his key arguments >> to main arguments in the brief that was just filed, wealth first of all, donald trump argues that he has immunity for any of his official acts that he engaged in as part of the presidency, donald trump, of course, argues that the presidency has very broad parameters. now, doj is going to respond by that by saying, no, you were well outside the bounds of the presidency. you were trying to steal an election. the second argument that donald trump makes in his brief that, is that a president or former president can only be criminally indicted if he has first been impeached by the house of representatives and then convicted by the us senate. that is and inventive argument.

he created a team to investigate trump allies, including rudy giuliani and roger stone. this team that had gathered at the willard hotel ahead of the january 6 capitol riot. this is all according to a blockbusters new story in the new york times cnn's evan perez is here and having the new york times says that in trying to avoid small mistakes, garland might have made a bigger one in the sense that he is now up in a race against the clock that it's possible the justice department is going to lose right? i mean, i think the >> concern that you hear from critics of the way these cases have been brought, jake, is that we now are obviously up against a deadline. we have obviously the election already in full swing the supreme court is now finally going to hear the appeal for the president's claim of immunity. >> and so that >> pushes back the prospect of having the first trial, the january 6 trial, perhaps happening very close to the election and maybe at some point, someone will say maybe the judge will say it's too close to the election. and so what certainly some of mine e

stone, marjorie taylor greene, madison cawthorn and the campaign that we're inside of that ballroom, and so while there is some others that are offering their tepid support like mitch mcconnell or don bacon, the question is come july at that republican convention in milwaukee, will the others in the party including potentially even nikki haley who donald trump needs supporters of, will they be there and ultimately fall in line and more enthusiastically back his bid. >> does the trump campaign think they need nikki haley supporters? >> reporter: the short answer to that is not exactly. i asked marjorie taylor greene that question before the new hampshire primary, explicitly, whether donald trump needed nikki haley and she told me very explicitly no. and this all comes down to the math of how do you become president? and frankly when you look at places like arizona, which came down to 11,000 votes, georgia, down to 10,000 votes, they believe there is untapped trump enthusiasm among supporters who otherwise didn't vote in 2020. recall in 2020, he did set the record across the competitiv

. >> courts >> found separate convictions against trump allies, roger stone and michael flynn, but trump exonerated both men. >> i think the whole manafort trial is very sad. >> then there are other first formerly in trump's orbit who have already seen the inside of a prison cell like his wants campaign chairman paul manafort, sentenced to seven years, but released early during the coronavirus it's pandemic shooting world. >> he wants to again, appear to have this thick skin. he's not thick skinned and the most outspoken former friend now enemy of trump's michael cohen, who served time in federal prison after lying to congress in violating campaign finance law. >> i believe that he will be found guilty on all charges. >> cohen now planning to continue his crusade against his former boss by testifying for the state at trump's criminal trial in new york, fringing grass, cnn, new york all right. ryan goodman, outfront legal analyst is with me. okay. so you believe that this guilty plea from allen weisselberg could have far-reaching implications in other trump cases. so what exactly do you m

did time and then you get to roger stone, michael flynn, all of them both of them were convicted and then pardon. so these are all people around donald trump who face meaningful criminal consequences whether donald trump himself would join that list, we will see in the months ahead, all this comes as you know ellie, as trump has just filed his brief, urging the us supreme court to rule, he has absolute presidential immunity. what are his key arguments? >> so two main arguments in the brief that was just filed, wealth first of all, donald trump argues that he has immunity for any of his official acts that he engaged in as part of the presidency, donald trump, of course, argues that the presidency has very broad parameters. now, doj is going to respond by that by saying, no, you were well out tied the bounds of the presidency. you were trying to steal an election. the second argument that donald trump makes in his brief, that is that a president or former president can only be criminally indicted if he has first been impeached by the house of representatives and then convicted by the u

willis trump associate roger stone, the deputy chairman of trump's campaign, rick gate. all were sentenced to time behind bars former trump org cfo allen weisselberg. he served time at riker's and could be going back. >> i >> mean, when you think about it and you listed out like that, it's pretty incredible. silence or fatty is out front with more that's what i'm feeling right now. former trump >> adviser peter navarro, defiant as he reports to federal prison in miami today every person who has taken me on this road to that prison is a brilliant democrat and at trump pater navarro is facing up for sentence for refusing to comply with a congressional subpoena from the committee that >> investigated the january 6 attacks on the us capitol. >> but his hard as it will be on me and it's hard as we'll be on anybody who is in there is harder on their families. and this is who >> those democrats have hurt navarro at age 74, will be serving his time and an air condition dormitory within the prison reserved for elderly inmates. kill have access to tvs, the ability he to email and

roger stone, he was there on super tuesday at mar-a-lago coming out with donald trump, almost side by side with them, with the close campaign adviser mark. >> what, what are the implications of paul manafort coming back into the end of the orbit of donald trump i mean especially at a time when he owes all of this money and legal bills. i mean, there's that dimension of a two absolutely. >> and look >> let's make no mistake. the republican national convention is sponsored by the republican national committee. >> we >> just saw that donald trump put his daughter-in-law effectively charge of the rnc. his top aides who said that he now effectively runs the rnc and there has been a lot of speculation and talk about how it could be used as a piggybank to meet his own financial obligations. so putting the likes of paul manafort in charge of one of the big fundraising opportunities, one of many respects to the least disclosed, most obscure parts of the fundraising apparatus just goes to show you that donald trump wants to bring someone who has had a disgrace history back into the fold, but al

willis trump associate roger stone, the deputy chairman of trump's campaign, rick gates, all were sentenced to time behind bars. former trump org cfo allen weisselberg, serve time at riker's and could be going back i mean, when you think about it and you listed out like that, it's pretty incredible silence or fatty is out front with more >> i'll guess. >> that's what i'm >> feeling right now. former >> trump adviser peter navarro defiant as he reports to federal prison in miami today, every person who has taken me on this road to that prison is a brilliant democrat and at trump pater navarro is facing a four-month sentence for refusing to comply with a congressional subpoena from the committee that investigated the january 6 attacks on the us capitol but it's hard as it will be on me. and it's hard as we'll be on anybody who is in there is harder on their families. and this is hou >> those democrats have hurt navarro at age 74, will be serving his time i'm in an air-conditioned dormitory within the prison reserve for elderly inmates who will have access to tvs. the ability to email and make

courts found separate convictions against trump allies, roger stone and michael flynn, but trump exoneree raided both men. >> i think the whole manafort trial is very sad. >> then there are others formerly in trump's orbit who have already seen the inside of a prison cell like his wants campaign chairman paul manafort, sentenced to seven years, but released early during the coronavirus pandemic chita world. >> he wants to again, appear to have this thick skin. he's not thick-skinned and the most outspoken former friend, now enemy of trump's michael cohen, who served time in federal prison after lying to congress and violating campaign finance law. >> i believe that he will be found guilty on all charges. >> cohen now playing getting to continue his crusade against his former boss by testifying for the state at trump's criminal trial in new york, fringing grass. cnn, new york all right ryan goodman outfront legal analyst is with me. okay. so you believe that this guilty plea from allen weisselberg could have far-reaching implications in other trump cases. so what exactly the main >> so i t

this list includes some of his closest long-term advisor there's individuals like roger stone steve bannon, michael flynn, his former national security adviser. all these individuals continue to go around the country, not in a paid role for the campaign, but in an informal role boosting the former president's in certainly selling some of the election lies around the 20 2011 election. and then you have other individuals who are helping raise money for the campaign are donating to the political committees that are supporting him. that includes charles kushner. he is, of course the father of his son-in-law, jared kushner charles coaston are made a $1,000,000 contribution to mega inke that is one of the a super pac supporting trump's campaign. one of the largest single donations to that superpac. and then you have individuals who are more celebrities and they're using their, their large following support trump, that includes kodak, black, the rapper, who is trump sentence, commuted, or trump commuted his sentence. >> and then there's >> one other individual on i mentioned that's john tate's. h

stone, michael flynn, all of these people received some form of pardon or commutation from the presidentrimes that were at the behest of or part of or related to their activities with donald trump. so you can -- this is not exactly -- i think somebody was saying that the campaign used to look like a rico chart. and you know, there's a series of criminals. michael cohen himself, you know, has admitted to lying to congress about the moscow tower. and obviously he was doing that for only one person. he didn't -- he wasn't doing that for himself. and the upcoming trial in manhattan is part of the same thing, where michael cohen, for all of his faults, what he's going to be describing is something he clearly wasn't doing for himself. this is all undertaken for donald trump and is part of a pattern. but it is a case where donald trump, because he had the pardon power, was able to give all of these people around him get out of jail free card literally. and that is -- that is the state of our country, where we have donald trump running for office again with overtly saying that he is running to l

they have provide the security for roger stone and for others, mike flynn, there have been other connectionsnto d.c. for some of these events leading up to january 6. previous events in d.c. so it is not a crazy strategy but think what is important here is that when that didn't pan out, there was a pivot and we really see that coming at the end, i guess, of 2021 and into 2022 when they, as you indicated at the top of the segment, they realized, let's tart looking into this fraudulent electors scheme and coming at it from that perspective, which proved much more fruitful. to is hard to second-guess the various strategies particularly when we have this reporting, we still don't know everything that is going on in the department of justice. >> andrew, with those many grains of salt sprinkled all over the conversation, talk to me about the push and pull with the 1/6 committee. >> just to be clear, marry and anthony's points are definitely good reminders. but, one thing that i took away from this report, was it struck me as a report that was being pushed out by the department of justice. not that

matt slapped schwablappis kids they sentenced roger stone to over three years and trump granted him clemency people will be in your government. there will be no backstop. host: let's speak to tom in new jersey on the independent line. caller: this actually goes out to the young lady mary. i just want to let you know about drones. you notice how drones are everywhere in the world right now. obama and biden gave our drone technology to iran. itinnocent people. the bomb sub blood on obama. you can google it. in world war ii, there were 415,000 military deaths that were america under joe biden's leadership, over 416 deaths happened to american children with fentanyl. host: barbara in oklahoma city, oklahoma. caller: i wish c-span would get certain facts and not let them call in every day and tell the same lies y day. it was all republicans that tried to get trump off the ballot. i was so proud of bided. host: you live in colorado? caller: when you say that no democrats wanted him off the ballot are you not referencing the colorado case? those weren't democrats those were republicans. host: i thi