that was emily form vanderbilt. so that whole generation of vanderbilt just built some of the the grandest homes that have ever been seen in this country. i think that's it. yes. thank you so much. let's give one more big round of applause to mr. phillips, james dodd and to our audienc

that was emily form vanderbilt. so that whole generation of vanderbilt just built some of the the grandest homes that have ever been seen in this country. i think that's it. yes. thank you so much. let's give one more big round of applause to mr. phillips, james dodd and to our audienctoday, 'y explorers in

that was emily form vanderbilt. so that whole generation of vanderbilt just built some of the the grandest homes that have ever been seen in this country. i think that's it. yes. thank you so much. let's give one more big round of applause to mr. phillips, james dodd and to our audie

there's going to be some opposition when it's the tennessee senate, there's some vanderbilt up in the rafters, heckling, but nevertheless it's going to pass a lot of enthusiasm and be signed into law by governor austin peay. now it's going to be tricky because the state men dated biology textbook hunters, civic biology, he did include significant discussions of darwin's theories of evolution, chapter 14 and particular so the state science teachers now will have to carefully use the school's textbook so as not to run afoul of the law. and law, which was part of kind of a growing anti evolution movement in a number of portions of the country caught the eye of an organized founded in 1920 called the american civil union. many of you have heard of them before. they're still around. and the aclu you was an organization formed around world war one during what is known to historians as the red scare when lots of people with beliefs sympathetic to socialism and communism are were arrested for the things that they were saying and and the aclu created by folks on the american left to defend the

impacts >> greg: i love this one hour video the day comes to us from a pro- palestinian protest at vanderbiltwhere a student called 911 because she was very worried about a fellow protesters tampon, roll it helga >> there is currently a female student who is being denied the right to change her tampon that has been in for multiple hours which leads to an increase risk of toxic shock syndrome. >> i'm a female i understand. >> you should understand what you're not hearing is if she stands up to use the restaurant restroom they are threatening arrest is not an option for her. >> do you have an emergency. >> yes, i do. >> that's an emergency. >> no do you have an emergency not your friend inside, to you have emergency. >> that is my emergency. >> i don't remember the time that i needed to have a emergency personally to call 911 for help. >> what. >> i don't member when i had to be a personal emergency for me to call 911 for help, i'm requesting assistance, medical urgent assistance. >> the people who want to defund the police calling the police over tampon this is not the first time that proteste

. >> you towed a car from vanderbilt and 111th monday. >> a cadillac. you remember it? >> no.at the cemetery are telling her you put somebody in the back of your vehicle and arrested them, and i don't show you arresting anybody. >> i'm not arresting nobody. anyway i was trying to figure out what color the cadillac was. >> i forgot i got it right in front of me. he picked it up at 1227 on vanderbilt at 111th, and copeland came and got it. >> a large white cadillac, large white cadillac. >> i got to look it up in my notes, i don't remember. god almighty. but you're sure you didn't? >> are you sure there was no one with it? no. >> as terrence's family pushed for answers, calkins wrote an incident report. >> there's several details that appears that what? calkins account of the events are not accurate. he didn't check out with mr. williams on the radio as you're supposed to. he didn't notify dispatch that he was transporting someone from one location to another. the timeline of when he said it occurred versus the independent witnesses, all of that appeared that he was not being tr

we call that the vanderbilt of new jersey. but and that was that troika, right? it was ed meese, right. is that correct? no brief story every every year in those g-8 meeting that was meeting of thtop people, the president and prime minister, a small number of countries, like eight tries. and every good thing switched to the another person had responsibility for hosting the meeting well. time, time, time and reagan. oh the breaking name came up and he decided he wanted to take people down to the shores of virginia and and hold something down and he was in charge then of trying to run a set of conversations about international economics and where the country was going, where the world going. reagan had that on and he had to have a meeting with every not only with the g8 group as a whole, but he had to have individual meetings with each member of the g8. and so theref that he had to get a hold of. we had to write briefing papers. andd thicker. it was like this when we finally had it done and baker took it to reagan and said, mr. president here's the briefing book fo

it features the italian arsini family, the american bushes, as well as the du pont, morgan, vanderbilt families. at the same time, well, whenever we... well, who is behind him, what kind of shadow structures, billionaires, and so on further, well, here we can only guess, but really, of course, the influence of these organizations is very, very, very great. a huge pleiad of companies essentially merges into one huge corporate leviathan, in which the media, military-industrial complex, entertainment, investment companies, insurance, banks and much, much more are mixed, hence the clear understanding that joe biden, that... other western politicians and the leaders of the free world, nothing more than puppets on strings of the truly powerful of this world, who remain behind the scenes of the big game, just imagine how many destinies and states have broken and will still break at the foot of the black rock, happy when the enemy comes to take away your home, your land? a huge cruise missile destroyed this equipment, nato's big campaign to the east, the target was yugoslavia, it was necessary

. >> yearly a half-century ago this vanderbilt trained economist left a teaching career saying he wass newly independent and more shattered nation. >> people were dying of hunger. i find myself in a strange situation. teaching economics. those elegant periods of economics have no use for people that are dying. reporter: he did teach -- test one economic theory, lending a few women funds to start a business. >> people are paying back every penny without a hitch. i thought i should have my own bank. reporter: the bank grew quickly, 97% owned millions of its female borrowers. a success that earned him the nobel peace prize in 2006. today he has a large footprint in bangladesh he society far beyond micro-lending. there is even a nursing school. it's global reach includes a bank that last year lent $1 billion to low income americans. all profits are plowed back into expanding the mission. he has won friends in the highest places across the globe except at home. in january he and three senior colleagues were sentenced to six months in prison for violating labor laws. they were charges he ca

and then columbia and vanderbilt play for the right to move on. go lions.eball is almost here. but, some news with that. the los angeles dodgers and the san diego padres will proceed with their season opening game today in south korea following a reported bomb threat against dodgers superstar shohei ohtani. south korean police say they found no explosives at the stadium, which is the skydome there in seoul after searching the site yesterday. south korea's yonhap news agency reports it occurred after it received an e-mail threatening to detonate an explosive during today's game. the historic series kicking off this morning will be the first major league baseball regular season contest ever played in south korea. the ceremonial first pitch will be thrown by the former pitcher, the first korean born athlete to play in the majors. after the seoul series, fans will have to wait another week until all teams take the field next thursday for baseball's official opening day. but these two opening games count. >>> time now for the weather and let's go to meteorologis

we call that the vanderbilt of new jersey. but and that was that troika, right? it was ed meese, baker, mike deaver, my dad. right. is that correct? no brief story every every year in those days, there would be a g-8 meeting that was meeting of the top people, the president and prime minister, a small number of countries, like eight countries. and every good thing switched to the another person had responsibility for hosting the meeting well. time, time, time and reagan. oh the breaking name came up and he decided he wanted to take people down to the shores of virginia and and hold something down there and he was in charge then of trying to run a set of conversations about international economics and where the country was going, where the world going. reagan had that on his and he had to have a meeting with every not only with the g8 group as a whole, but he had to have individual meetings with each member of the g8. and so there was a stack of stuff that he had to get a hold of. we had to write briefing papers. and this briefing book thicker and thicker and thic

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meanwhile, vanderbilt celebrated its return to the ncaa tournament with a 72-68 win over columbia.he number 12 commidors will face six seated. the women's first four concludes tonight with auburn and arizona competing for the number 11 seed in a date with syracuse and for a shot at you know who kaitlan clark and the number one iowa hawkeyes. turn now to the nba. some history in phoenix last night as suns star kevin durant easily scored the 9 points he needed to move up the league's all-time scoring list. he finished over the philadelphia 76ers, and that puts durant past hall of famer shaquille o'neal for the eight most career points in nba history. >>> baseball, baseball, baseball. the los angeles dodgers opened the season with a win over the san diego padres yesterday in seoul, south korea, which marked the first major league contest ever played in that country. watch this. the dodgers broke a 2-2 tie in the eighth inning when a routine grounder that looked like it would be the ending of a double play went through the webbing of the glove. watch this, it went through the glove. eq

>> in rolla just at vanderbilt university medical center says jumping time for were not only affectsmmediate days after the time change. but for months later as well, researchers say there are increased cases of heart attacks as well as higher rates of obesity and certain cancers. they also believe those health problems are associated with less sleep during daylight saving months. a bill in congress to make daylight saving permanent died in the house in 2022. a revamped version was also stalled. for your money. this afternoon. target is launching a paid membership program starting next month. the program is called target circle 3.60. it will cost $49 per year and includes unlimited free. same day delivery for orders over $35. the retailer also relaunches its free target circle. loyalty program members with the free program will get discounts automatically applied rather than having to scan through deals on the app. and the biden administration is rolling out new policies, it says will reduce consumer costs. the fcc is looking over a proposal that would block landlords from charging t

he lived off fifth avenue near the vanderbilts and the carnegies. a millionaires row. his fleet class company had captured the region's lucrative accounts, such the new york state capitol in albany and metropolitan opera have been hot. he took home an annual salary. $1 million, approximately $30 million in 2023. monies. he was a virtual doppelganger her for andrew a definite look alike. they were both wealthy, had a similar persona. one was virtuous, while the other vicious a corrupt, weak man. there were the same age. both celebrating their 83rd birthday. the birthdays for two weeks apart. although his wife was the seas for a few years, he had an ongoing relationship with. hannah liz. for over a decade, she blackmailed him when she became pregnant with gwendolyn the prior year the baby died a few months later. for the remaining few hours of this day, the relationship would remain clandestine. 1:15 p.m. hannah's carriage departs. 236 central park, west horse hooves on the cobblestones hannah inhales, the fresh november air. 1:20 p.m. cornell is sweating nervously paces

we're all just a vanderbilt university medical center says jumping time board. only affects health in the immediate days out of the change, but for months later as well. researchers say there are increased cases, no heart attacks as well as high rates of obesity and certain type of cancers. they also think that health problems associated with less sleep during daylight saving month. a bill in congress to make daylight saving permanent died in the house back in 2022. or event version was also stahl. tonight. could the election night? how about jackpot now estimated 485 million dollars. it's more than 232 million in cash person in solano county had a winning ticket worth almost $500,000. mind, don is at 8. may the force is be in your favor. a 26 right now. coming up next on the kron 4 morning news. >> video showing the aftermath of a police chase in hayward. we're live at the scene with the latest. and we're also taking a look at stormtracker 4 and seeing what you can expect with the rain right now. you can see it's covering a wide part of the bay area and the hea

. >> reporter: with schools like vanderbilt and presbyterian punching their way into the big dance, asen. late theatrics from grambling state in overtime -- >> and it is over here in dayton. >> reporter: -- finalized the men's field, which tips off in a matter of hours. the overwhelming favorite or big dog -- >> let's go get you number six! >> reporter: -- the uconn huskies looking to defend their national title. >> we want back-to-back rings. >> reporter: even the school's mascot jonathan the husky revealing his bracket strategy, picking all dogs to win and all cats to lose. but what about owls? florida atlantic university, from boca raton, became a household name last year, en route to a stunning final four appearance. >> we're extremely excited to advance to the ncaa tournament for the second year in a row. we don't take it for granted. we know how difficult it is. >> reporter: but make no mistake, the biggest star power anywhere in basketball is iowa's caitlin clark. >> this for college basketball history. >> reporter: who just broke the all time ncaa scoring mark and according to

the future, they're always talking about whether or not we should do this and now and a rally, just a vanderbilt university med center says that jumping forward when we set the clock for it, not only affects your health in the immediate days after make the time change, but for months as well, apparently there are an increased risk of that that they've seen heart attacks a high rate of obesity and certain cancers, too. and they believe that those with health problems are associated with the less sleep that you get during the daylight saving months. a bill has been in congress for ever perennially. they always try to see if they can make this permanent. it failed in 2022, a revamped version was stalled. so the battle continues over her yangon of clocks back and forth back and forth or just leave them where they are. the tsa is getting ready for a busy spring break. maybe your kids are already on spring break, but they're expecting the big spike 6% spike in travelers to come now through the 1st half of april. united airlines is thanking the busiest day for them is going to be march 22nd with they t

serhiy as munson, maternal fetal medical specialist at vanderbilt medical center -- the process her hospitale performing an abortion, a doctor must now receive an approval from a sixth person panel made up of other positions at the hospital. last october, a particularly challenging case but came bid for that committee concerning a patient who was seven weeks pregnant and stable, but with a medical history that made delivery very high risk. the patient, already a mother and staring down the possibility of sepsis, and even death, requested an abortion, but there was a problem. there was no immediate risk to her life. the potential emergency which was required to justify the procedure under tennessee law would not occur until the baby was at full term. debates amongst the panel ensued, with one doctor concluding, which, i unfortunately don't think this meets the criteria for the law, in my interpretation, even though it is the ethical right thing to do. the group, unable to come to a conclusion, pointed the decision to another panel at the hospital. however, soon after, as munson learned that t

joining us now in a fox business exclusive, vanderbilt university assistant professor of finance joshua white. he also served as a financial economist at the securities and exchange commission. and we have an early reddit user, charles bayer, who declined reddit's offer to buy shares. charles, there has been concern that the stock could lose steam shortly after its opening trade because many of the users, retail investors, said they plan to short the stock. clearly, that is not happening yet at least. any regets? -- regrets? >> no regrets. you know, again, i think reddit's a great platform. i have no issues with the company. i believe that from a revenue perspective they're doing well. they're moving up year every year. upontyization wise they have -- monetization wise they have a lot of opportunity to bump up their earnings. so i don't have any issue with the company. my issue is more risk management and just, you know, or you know that, you know, or the ipo launch is going to be a little hectic which you're seeing today, obviously. but the real question is, you know, if you're looking

serhiy as munson, maternal fetal medical specialist at vanderbilt medical center -- about the processoe, and before performing an abortion, a doctor must now receive an approval from a sixth person panel made up of other physicians at the hospital. last october, a particularly challenging case but came bid for that committee concerning a patient who was seven weeks pregnant and stable, but with a medical history that made delivery very high risk. the patient, already a mother and staring down the possibility of sepsis, and even death, requested an abortion, but there was a problem. there was no immediate risk to her life. the potential emergency which was required to justify the procedure under tennessee law would not occur until the baby was at full term. debates amongst the panel ensued, with one doctor concluding, which, i unfortunately don't think this meets the criteria for the law, in my interpretation, even though it is the ethical right thing to do. the group, unable to come to a conclusion, punted the decision to another panel at the hospital. however, soon after, as munson l

he is a renowned professor of african-american and diaspora studies at vanderbilt university. he's also the author of entertaining race performing blackness in america and frankly, many others. michael, i want to start here with the big picture because this can't be looked at in a vacuum. frankly, i mean, there was a study that was published this week by the adl that says that white supremacy is propaganda incidents have hit a record high in the united states. actually up by double digits. so what they experienced in that moment, many might say, oh, that's a distant past. it is now, it's going on right now, and it's the manifestation of broader themes that have been adapted in the country. one of the coaches said, this is, this is a college campus. there's so much diversity. we are living through the assault upon dei and other forms of diversity right? >> the rejection of affirmative action, the rejection >> of dei, this is a country that is allergic to the diversity, the complexity, the nuance that makes america at its best a nation to be idolized, or at least to be looked at

sacred heart they're fighting for the right to face top seed is south carolina than columbia facing vanderbilt the winter or that one, i'll play baylor and kate that you it's tough to argue that in all of college hoops this season, caitlin clark is the biggest star all right hands down her iowa will play on saturday for the first time, but i have to say go stanford because are fighting tara vanderveer is have a chance this year to win at all? >> i mean, i'm not going to not going to fight you on that, but hitting auto, correct. for my final four is what i'm going to dispute though, because that's nonsense. >> that's correct. would be a great option, but for that when autopay yeah. i just need autocorrect my life. okay. there we go. let's start there >> all right. knew this morning, the uk health minister has warned hospital staffers if they access princess kate's medical records without permission, they could be prosecuted. why is this coming out? well, there's a report in the british tabloid that claim someone at the hospital allegedly tried to get into the private files of the princess of wa

you know tha, by way, while that clip ran, i thought vanderbilt university, this is a highed r. a year just for tuition. that's what you're forti, for i i will say this. i mean, hi.g we've been there has been h emergencies like. okay, walking through the halls and high schooigh l. i can't go to class. i need to stop by the restroom. this is o a emergency. yeah. your best friend comesy in withi and has one in her purse and your backpack. but i don't knowher pue or bac. i've actually never called 911 in my life. probably said four times. this isn't who wants to be a millionaire? t like, i don't care. but i like the fact that the girl she doesn't do seen. somes going to have an affection party infection. the impact is already there. my we must move on before we all lose our jobs. greatest topic. res ge yeah. should stores get fined for not keeping bombs in mint te so many more people know it through the myth than through the reality. a los angeles judge sentenced each brother to two consecutive life terms, but their real suffering at the heart of this story just goes round and. oh,

places, the harvard law review, stanford law review, and why you ucla law review, texas law review, vanderbilt law review, berkeley technology law review. nothing in arkansas. you need to correct for that. professor wexler served as a senior policy advisor for science and justice at the white house, office of science and technology during the spring of 2023 and as the james c. carpenter visiting professor at columbia law school. you got your jd from yale, cambridge as a gaetz scholar and you are summa cum laude at harvard. we thank you for flying in from california. will the three witnesses please stand up and raise your right hand? [cough] do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give before the subcommittee will be the truth, whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you god? let the record show that each witness has answered in the affirmative. you may sit down, unless you want to stand for the hearings, which of course we have no preference. you will each have five minutes for your opening statement. we will start with in alphabetical order with chief aguiar. chief

places, harvard law review, stanford law review, yale, nyu review, ucla law review, texas law review, vanderbilt law review, berkeley technology law review, i would criticize you because nothing in arkansas you need to correct for that. you served as senior policy advisor for science and justice at the white house, office of science and technology during the spring of 2023 and as the carpenter visiting professor at columbia law school. jd from yale. we thank you for flying in all the way from california. would you stand up and raise your right hand? do you swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to get before the subcommittee will be the truth the whole truth, nothing but the truth so help you god? let the record show each witness has answered in the affirmative. you may sit down unless you want to stand for the hearing which we have no preference. you each will now have five minutes for the opening statement and we will start with chief armando aguilar . >> good afternoon thomas subcommittee chair booker, ranking member cotton, and subcommittee members. i am armando aguilar from the mi

also spent several she has also worked to train future lawyers as an adjunct professor at vaned -- vanderbilt law school. she earned her j.d. and went on to clerk for two federal judges one on thecuit court of appeals and one on the district court for the northern district of columbia. american bar association gave ms. berner its highest rating of well qualified for the position she has been qualified for. her confirmation would mark a significant milestone for the fourth circuit. if confirmed, she would be the first openly gay lgbtq judge to serve on that court. ms. berner'squalifications her values and experience coupled with her notably steady and calm demeanor as exhibited during the committee hearing will make hern exceptional addition to the fourth circuit. she is supported by a host of organizations, includingnizations, the international brotherhood of police officers the national council of women, the national women's law center union presidents 23 of them, the leadership conference on civil rights and human rights the national task force to sexual and domestic violence the national w

one vanderbilt where we're a tenant they will push rates there.rd that doesn't need to exist. what happens to the third that doesn't need to exist, what does it do to tax rolls in cities like new york and how does the government work with owners so make it so they can reclassify, reuse that. it's a real issue and what happens, the -- everyone is waiting for something to break and unfortunately there's nothing that's going to break right now. there's no one event, barring a bank banking crisis, that will make all of this come to the market and clear. it's going to be one building after another -- >> you will have zombie buildings. >> very much so. sort of like during the industrial revolution and all the warehouses that -- mills that weren't used and they happened to be in rural areas in downtown. >> manhattan. >> we had factories downtown that became luxurious lofts in tribeca and chelsea. is repurposing going to work? >> it's super hard. taking an office building and turning it into multi, given the floor plans, you have too much internal space a

every bit the power house in vanderbilt columbia going for the 12c.umbia ecstatic with their selections just days ago. that is the power of march. >> michael: speaking of, how is your women's bracket looking? >> it is pristine for now. it is on your screen. i've got my eye on usc. i've got stanford going to the final four lead by all-time winningest coach. and for the national championship, all-time leading scorer caitlin clark and iowa. i see them handing south carolina on their first loss of the season, guys. it could be big. >> robin: they are going to get by lsu. >> i think they are going to do it. george, i have some stats for you. >> george: i was going to ask a question. i wanted to know if you have edited your bracket again. >> i have not. it has been locked in the office upstairs. your odds of having a perfect bracket, 1-9.2 quintillion. >> exactly. exactly right. >> michael: keep an eye on your bracket. coming up, we have a new twist in the case of the utah mother accused of killing her husband. did she act alone? >> robin: close call and th

fever is officially on the rise nationwide >> buries it >> what a shot >> reporter: with schools like vanderbiltgrambling state -- >> it is over here in dayton >> reporter: finalize the men's field, which tips off in a matter of hours. the overwhelming favorite or big dog. >> let's go get your number six! let's go, uconn! >> reporter: the uconn huskies looking to defend their national title. >> we want back-to-back rings, man. >> reporter: even the school's mascot, jonathan the husky, revealing his bracket strategy, picking all dogs to win and all cats to lose but what about owls? florida/atlantic university from boca raton became a household name last year en route to a stunning final four appearance >> we're extremely excited to advance to the ncaa tournament for the second year in a row we don't take it for granted we know how difficult it is. >> reporter: but make no mistake, the biggest star power anywhere in basketball is iowa's caitlin clark. >> this for college basketball history -- >> reporter: who just broke the all-time ncaa scoring mark and according to tic pic is college basketball'

>> presbyterian and vanderbilt punching their tickets to round one to ran and both tournaments to expectrop across the country. some employers are actually encouraging in office watch parties. >> we are really big into getting together and connecting with people. so we can watch sports. it gets everybody in a good mood, definitely. everybody comes in the office willing to work. >> will: if you do clock in and don't want to miss the action, for those whose offices may be more strict, there is a feature built into march madness livestream, a boss button to switch your screen to look like you're working when needed. this year takes you to pretend hr videos, if that doesn't work, dawn staley may be able to help. the head coach of undefeated south carolina team offering this sick note for fans to attend the game. [laughter] [laughter] >> if you are planning on filling out a bracket, you have tip-off at the men's first game today at 12:15 p.m. eastern, so you have to get moving. 60 men's games today and two of the women's first four and then we are off to the races. >> robin: okay, so your bra

and rogers chair in the american presidency at vanderbilt university, historian jon meacham.ll. >> so, jon -- >> there is more, take it away. >> -- you have a former president talking about that bloodbath. of course, all his defenders in far right-wing media and on websites were saying, oh, he was talking about the car industry. except, well, you know, he started talking about the car industry. he moved on to talking about economic bloodbath. then he said, and that's going to be the least of it. expanding it out from whatever he was talking about to say, that's going to be the least of it. you know, these taxes that i'm going to hoist on the american people through tariffs, that's just going to be the least of it. for this bloodbath that he is talking about. again, you see it from beginning to end, the celebration of political violence in america, starting with him saluting, again, what family members and police who died after january 6th would call cop killers. >> there's no mystery here. in some ways, i think it's in context a good thing that trump is being straightforward

and rogers chair in the american presidency at vanderbilt university, historian jon meacham is with us this morning. we'll dive right in, beginning with a huge day legally for donald trump. >>> he is expected to be in a new york courtroom this morning for a hearing on the hush money case against him. the trial was supposed to start today, but it was delayed earlier this month after federal prosecutors turned over thousands of documents which the manhattan district attorney's office says are largely irrelevant to the case. the judge is now expected to set a new start date for the criminal trial. today is also the deadline for trump to put up a bond of nearly half a billion dollars in the civil fraud case. the bond would prevent the new york attorney general from collecting on the judgment while he appeals. trump's attorneys have asked an appellate court to reduce, delay, or waive the bond. but as "the washington post" reports, the appeals court generally issues rulings on tuesdays and thursdays, so there is very little chance it will act today. >> chuck rosenberg, what should we be expe