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we can see from the top, you, alice perkins and owen lyons.. you told us about... the minutes say you told us about... the minutes say you told them about the recent meeting with you and another eight mps, the portcullis house meeting that we mentioned. in which you had met some of the affected sub—postmaster is and there are legal representatives. if we just scan through paragraph two, paragraph three alice perkins inviting you to visit the model office to see how horizon works. during paragraph four making a counter proposal to come to old street, offering to come to old street, offering to come to old street but accompanied by a computer expert, possibly someone from computer weekly and you made the point that you put credence on their opinion because of the chinook helicopter crash inquiry. and that you told them that computer weekly had also been sceptical about horizon. and in paragraph five is something ijust want horizon. and in paragraph five is something i just want to concentrate on, it says not make it records, and this is the post
we can see from the top, you, alice perkins and owen lyons.. you told us about... the minutes say you told us about... the minutes say you told them about the recent meeting with you and another eight mps, the portcullis house meeting that we mentioned. in which you had met some of the affected sub—postmaster is and there are legal representatives. if we just scan through paragraph two, paragraph three alice perkins inviting you to visit the model office to see how horizon works. during...
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and on the 19th of march there was a meeting between myself and alice perkins and it appears that thef wrote for me for a telephone call that at the meeting of the 19th of march over the page alice perkins said among other things at the post office did not believe anything was wrong with horizon. they were very concerned that any opinion being formed by second back —— second sight should... not least because the post office did not have a right of reply. it continued funding investigations and it seemed there would be some sort of deadline for cases by the end of february. and at the post office would not attend a meeting of the 2ath of march. but there would be an open letter from there would be an open letter from the post office available for distribution at that meeting and that the post office would be expecting to be ready to attend a meeting with mps in perhaps expecting to be ready to attend a meeting with mps in perhaszune. can you help me? i thought the post office and said they wanted their systems processes and data independently assessed. yes, without 0 enness independent
and on the 19th of march there was a meeting between myself and alice perkins and it appears that thef wrote for me for a telephone call that at the meeting of the 19th of march over the page alice perkins said among other things at the post office did not believe anything was wrong with horizon. they were very concerned that any opinion being formed by second back —— second sight should... not least because the post office did not have a right of reply. it continued funding investigations...
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i think it follows that alice perkins, paula _ yes.vennells - yes. i think it follows that alice perkins, paula vennells and - yes. i think it follows that alice - perkins, paula vennells and angela vanden bogarde and others did not disclose to you on the other eight mps representatives the following. "anything about the julie wolstenholme case." in which expert evidence have been served by a man called... concerning bugs in the horizon system and in which case was settled by the post office. thea;r settled by the post office. they didn't disclose _ settled by the post office. they didn't disclose that, _ settled by the post office. they didn't disclose that, no. - settled by the post office. they didn't disclose that, no. they l didn't disclose that, no. they didn't disclose that, no. they didn't mention _ didn't disclose that, no. they didn't mention the _ didn't disclose that, no. they didn't mention the case - didn't disclose that, no. they didn't mention the case of i didn't disclose that, no. they | didn't mention the case of lee
i think it follows that alice perkins, paula _ yes.vennells - yes. i think it follows that alice perkins, paula vennells and - yes. i think it follows that alice - perkins, paula vennells and angela vanden bogarde and others did not disclose to you on the other eight mps representatives the following. "anything about the julie wolstenholme case." in which expert evidence have been served by a man called... concerning bugs in the horizon system and in which case was settled by the post...
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paul 3097588. -- poll 3097588. 7th of march 2013, you to alice perkins.bout the sub—postmaster — mistress issue. that is the meeting we will turn to. the meeting is to take the form of an update from ron warmington and ian henderson of second site on how their investigations are proceeding. i wonder if you might be free to attend along with any of those of your colleagues that you deem it is appropriate to invite. i have invited all mps who have constituents who have raised this matter with them. i do not propose inviting the media. and then we can scan over the remaining paragraphs on that page and go over the page. if we look, you say at the top of the page i'd like to raise two matters and these are things that may need a conversation between you and me before the meeting. in my discussions, i gather that questions have been raised that the absolute integrity of horizon there without there being so fundamental as to say that the system is not fit for purpose. since it is a system that remains in current use, there is a risk that existing some postmaste
paul 3097588. -- poll 3097588. 7th of march 2013, you to alice perkins.bout the sub—postmaster — mistress issue. that is the meeting we will turn to. the meeting is to take the form of an update from ron warmington and ian henderson of second site on how their investigations are proceeding. i wonder if you might be free to attend along with any of those of your colleagues that you deem it is appropriate to invite. i have invited all mps who have constituents who have raised this matter with...
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not in _ or alice perkins for this meeting? not in relation to the narrative you are seeing here.ation together on to be able to talk through at the first meeting and the two cases where thejo hamilton tracey merit case, they were the constituents for both of those mps. that is what i was asked to do. then that float, thejune meeting was a follow—up —— then that float. with an extended audience. my involvement wasn't in pulling together the briefing information other than my specific slot on the agenda, as it were.— other than my specific slot on the agenda, as it were. where you party to any discussion _ agenda, as it were. where you party to any discussion with _ agenda, as it were. where you party to any discussion with either- agenda, as it were. where you party to any discussion with either or - to any discussion with either or both— to any discussion with either or both of— to any discussion with either or both of miss perkins or miss vennells _ both of miss perkins or miss vennells beforehand in which it was decided _ vennells beforehand in which it was decided that the thi
not in _ or alice perkins for this meeting? not in relation to the narrative you are seeing here.ation together on to be able to talk through at the first meeting and the two cases where thejo hamilton tracey merit case, they were the constituents for both of those mps. that is what i was asked to do. then that float, thejune meeting was a follow—up —— then that float. with an extended audience. my involvement wasn't in pulling together the briefing information other than my specific slot...
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perkins did speak and you can see that _ alice perkins did speak and you can see that to— alice perkinsee a second bullet point _ and you can see a second bullet point on — and you can see a second bullet point on the right, taking the issue very seriously, and second paragraph of the _ very seriously, and second paragraph of the minute, a very serious one for the _ of the minute, a very serious one for the post — of the minute, a very serious one for the post office. a mention of reputation — for the post office. a mention of reputation which equates to the second — reputation which equates to the second bullet point? yes. and then ou can second bullet point? yes. and then you can see — second bullet point? yes. and then you can see the _ second bullet point? iss and then you can see the last line second bullet point? i9; and then you can see the last line of the minute, — you can see the last line of the minute, very serious for and mistresses involved, as it is invariably— mistresses involved, as it is invariably like changing, equates to the second — invariably like changing, equate
perkins did speak and you can see that _ alice perkins did speak and you can see that to— alice perkinsee a second bullet point _ and you can see a second bullet point on — and you can see a second bullet point on the right, taking the issue very seriously, and second paragraph of the _ very seriously, and second paragraph of the minute, a very serious one for the _ of the minute, a very serious one for the post — of the minute, a very serious one for the post office. a mention of...
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perkins, paula vennells down?bout such problems with convictions? ma. were problems with convictions? no. were there any convicted sub—postmasters within it at that time? yes. i read it was about _ within it at that time? yes. i read it was about a _ within it at that time? yes. i read it was about a third _ within it at that time? yes. i read it was about a third of— within it at that time? yes. i read it was about a third of them, and that must vary over the course of time. what was the proportion? ba; time. what was the proportion? by the time we got to the] and o, the time we got to the] and 0, about_ the time we got to the] and 0, about 60 — the time we got to the] and 0, about 60 of them, about 10%, roughlx — about 60 of them, about 10%, roughly. in fact, that had been the issue _ roughly. in fact, that had been the issue that — roughly. in fact, that had been the issue that had caused problems with the original lawyers that were supporting us, in 2010, it is because _ supporting us, in 2010, it is because t
perkins, paula vennells down?bout such problems with convictions? ma. were problems with convictions? no. were there any convicted sub—postmasters within it at that time? yes. i read it was about _ within it at that time? yes. i read it was about a _ within it at that time? yes. i read it was about a third _ within it at that time? yes. i read it was about a third of— within it at that time? yes. i read it was about a third of them, and that must vary over the course of time. what was the...
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perkins at a conference — conversation with alice perkins at a conference at edgeley park, and insteadup, and again to ed davey, the then parliamentary under secretary of state _ parliamentary under secretary of state for. — parliamentary under secretary of state for, innovation and skills? can we — state for, innovation and skills? can we start with the letter to moya greene _ can we start with the letter to moya greene and the reply that she got from _ greene and the reply that she got from paula vennells, then managing director— from paula vennells, then managing director of— from paula vennells, then managing director of post office limited? let's _ director of post office limited? let's start — director of post office limited? let's start with your letter. if we can blow that up a little bit, please~ _ if we can blow that up a little bit, please. this is you writing on the 15th of— please. this is you writing on the 15th of december, 2011. to moya greene _ 15th of december, 2011. to moya greene the chief executive of royal mail group plc. you say, i have been contacted _ mail grou
perkins at a conference — conversation with alice perkins at a conference at edgeley park, and insteadup, and again to ed davey, the then parliamentary under secretary of state _ parliamentary under secretary of state for. — parliamentary under secretary of state for, innovation and skills? can we — state for, innovation and skills? can we start with the letter to moya greene _ can we start with the letter to moya greene and the reply that she got from _ greene and the reply that she got...
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perkins, mark davies, angela, tim parker and susan crichton.sday the 28th of march the post office and a cover letter for a production of 1071 documents and the cover letter noticed post office had had the court initiated assurance exercises, the first being a review of specific third—party material, i am sorry, third—party advisor material and the second being search and review of e—mail inboxes of personal assistance, to the section 21.3 individuals. and other e—mail inboxes of potential relevance were considered appropriate for the exercise. the letter further explained that the post office and a quote section 21.3 search methodology focused on the relevant individuals data sources, third—party adviser files and personal assistant e—mails have previously been reviewed for other lines and section 21 is as explained in previous interim disclosure statements however as part of assurance, post office has now run sub searches across specific third—party adviser files as were set out in the letter. such third—party advisers include a dose of the i
perkins, mark davies, angela, tim parker and susan crichton.sday the 28th of march the post office and a cover letter for a production of 1071 documents and the cover letter noticed post office had had the court initiated assurance exercises, the first being a review of specific third—party material, i am sorry, third—party advisor material and the second being search and review of e—mail inboxes of personal assistance, to the section 21.3 individuals. and other e—mail inboxes of...
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perkins, paula vennells down?t at that time? yes. i read it was about a third of— within it at that time? yes. i read it was about a third of them, and that must vary over the course of time. what was the proportion? br; time. what was the proportion? by the time we got to the] and o, the time we got to the] and 0, about— the time we got to the] and 0, about 60 — the time we got to the] and 0, about 60 of them, about 10%, roughly — about 60 of them, about 10%, roughly. in fact, that had been the issue _ roughly. in fact, that had been the issue that — roughly. in fact, that had been the issue that had caused problems with the original lawyers that were supporting us,
perkins, paula vennells down?t at that time? yes. i read it was about a third of— within it at that time? yes. i read it was about a third of them, and that must vary over the course of time. what was the proportion? br; time. what was the proportion? by the time we got to the] and o, the time we got to the] and 0, about— the time we got to the] and 0, about 60 — the time we got to the] and 0, about 60 of them, about 10%, roughly — about 60 of them, about 10%, roughly. in fact, that had...