let's bring in allison espisito, retired police officer. your opinion of this getting this far to happen. >> good morning. thank you for having me. that is exactly what this is, anarchy, absolute unrest and it is unacceptable. you have a group of overly emoti emotionally and under informed indiv individuals. it is absolutely ludicrous. you have group of students that have taken over a building and reports overnight of faculty members that were inside the building and briefly held hostage. this will escalate and get worse until someone gets hurt. it is time for strong, decisive leadership. you see schools around the country where some leaders are stepping forward and stopping the anarchy. these students believe they are not accountable for their akszs and that is pinpointed where criminals are not held accountable for their actions. take a hard stand and end this now before it gets worse. >> todd: as a police officer, give us a description of law and order, controlling mobs. how would you put a swift end to this before scenes like this could