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thank you, mr alan bates. i suppose _ many years. thank you, mr alan bates. i suppose following - many years. thank you, mr alan bates. i suppose following mr. many years. thank you, mr alan - bates. i suppose following mr henry, i think i have — bates. i suppose following mr henry, i think i have got _ bates. i suppose following mr henry, i think i have got this _ bates. i suppose following mr henry, i think i have got this right, - bates. i suppose following mr henry, i think i have got this right, the - i think i have got this right, the claims — i think i have got this right, the claims in — i think i have got this right, the claims in the gl 0 on behalf of some of the _ claims in the gl 0 on behalf of some of the claimants including claims for malicious prosecution so inevitably the propriety of the prosecutions were an effect on the civil proceedings. that prosecutions were an effect on the civil proceedings.— civil proceedings. that is the end of mr bates' _ civil proceedings. that is the end of mr bates' evidence. _ civil proceedings. that is
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bates had to say.— inquiry and hear what else alan bates had to say. august 2003, you remember where _ bates had to say. august 2003, you remember where we _ bates had to say. august 2003, you remember where we are _ bates had to say. august 2003, you remember where we are in - bates had to say. august 2003, you remember where we are in the - remember where we are in the narrative, you have been given notice of termination of your contract. i think one of the first things you did was right to the chairman of the royal mail, is that right? chairman of the royal mail, is that riuht? , can chairman of the royal mail, is that right?- can we _ chairman of the royal mail, is that right? yes. can we look at that letter please? _ this is dated 7th of august 2003, to the chairman of royal mail group pic. can i ask you in general terms plc. can i ask you in general terms what the purpose was in writing to the chairman of royal mail group pic? by this time you had received plc? by this time you had received pos
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over the year, allan bates has _ deal with. over the year, allan bates has written _ deal with. over the year, allan bates has written to _ deal with. over the year, allan bates has written to a - deal with. over the year, allan bates has written to a series . deal with. over the year, allan| bates has written to a series of government minister, in charge of the post office. you government minister, in charge of the post office.— the post office. you in fact sent a re -l the post office. you in fact sent a reply to mr— the post office. you in fact sent a reply to mr davie. _ the post office. you in fact sent a reply to mr davie. the _ the post office. you in fact sent a reply to mr davie. the inquiry - the post office. you in fact sent a | reply to mr davie. the inquiry was shown alert _ reply to mr davie. the inquiry was shown alert sent _ reply to mr davie. the inquiry was shown alert sent to _ reply to mr davie. the inquiry was shown alert sent to the post - reply to mr davie. the inquiry was | shown alert sent to the post office minister ed davey injuly 2010, where allan
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is it any wonder that alan bates is smiling? after 23 years of campaigning, he can now tell the inquiry this is his moment to tell everything he knows about the post office scandal. he was shown a post office scandal. he was shown a post office memo which explained why he had been sacked as a sub—postmaster. was that ever explain to you, that you became unmanageable? not at all. you, you became unmanageable? not at all. you. quote. — you became unmanageable? not at all. you, quote, clearly _ you became unmanageable? not at all. you, quote, clearly struggled _ you became unmanageable? not at all. you, quote, clearly struggled with - you, quote, clearly struggled with accounting and despite copious surmort, — accounting and despite copious support, did not follow instructions. firstly, did you struggle— instructions. firstly, did you struggle with accounting? no, instructions. firstly, did you struggle with accounting? no, not at all. were struggle with accounting? no, not at all- were you — struggle with accounting? no,
is it any wonder that alan bates is smiling? after 23 years of campaigning, he can now tell the inquiry this is his moment to tell everything he knows about the post office scandal. he was shown a post office scandal. he was shown a post office memo which explained why he had been sacked as a sub—postmaster. was that ever explain to you, that you became unmanageable? not at all. you, you became unmanageable? not at all. you. quote. — you became unmanageable? not at all. you, quote, clearly...
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{jut hear alan bates give evidence. out to be hear alan bates give evidence. omit to be viewed in the context of some other developments that have taken place in the meantime, if we could just reference those without going into the details, there had been meetings with oliver letwin and james, a small group of mps had joined and met with senior post office management and on the 18th of june 2012 they had agreed to commission an independent review. did you know those things at the time of the meeting? i did you know those things at the time of the meeting?— did you know those things at the time of the meeting? i was aware of what was going _ time of the meeting? i was aware of what was going on, _ time of the meeting? i was aware of what was going on, i _ time of the meeting? i was aware of what was going on, i could - time of the meeting? i was aware of what was going on, i could be - time of the meeting? i was aware of| what was going on, i could be wrong, this is— what was going on, i could be wrong, this is my— what was going on, i could be wrong, thi
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is it any wonder that alan bates is smiling? after 23 years of campaigning, he can now tell the inquiry everything he knows about the post office scandal. he explained why he'd kept fighting for so long. as you got to meet people, and realised it wasn'tjust yourself and you saw the harm and injustice that had been descended upon them, it was something that you felt you had to deal with. over the year, alan bates has written to a series of government ministers in charge of the post office. you in fact sent a reply to mr davie. the inquiry was shown alert sent to the post office minister ed davey injuly 2010, where alan bates called his refusal to intervene notjust disappointing but offensive. he said the post office had been operating as little more than thugs in suits and ed davey enabled them to carry on with immunity, regardless of the human misery and suffering they inflict. interviewed at a building site in kent, mr davey responded. alan bates is a hero, but like him, when i put those concerns to post office executives, i wa
is it any wonder that alan bates is smiling? after 23 years of campaigning, he can now tell the inquiry everything he knows about the post office scandal. he explained why he'd kept fighting for so long. as you got to meet people, and realised it wasn'tjust yourself and you saw the harm and injustice that had been descended upon them, it was something that you felt you had to deal with. over the year, alan bates has written to a series of government ministers in charge of the post office. you...
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el bate de bÉisbol sigue al lado de su puerta. presentador: medicamento relativamente nuevo para tratar esclerosis lateral es retirado de las farmacias. tambiÉn habÍa sido aprobado en septiembre pasado en una decisiÓn muy controvertida. los pacientes deben hablar con su mÉdico. presentadora: primer ser humano en recibir un riÑÓn de cerdo fue dado de alta del hospital apenas 18 dÍas despuÉs de haberlo recibido: saliÓ del hospital general de massachusetts afirmando que su recuperaciÓn progresa sin problemas tras la innovadora procedimientos. presentador: presunto abuso de dos menores en medellÍn a manos de un estadounidense. autoridades piden la extradiciÓn. >> el caso del estadounidense aliado en un hospedaje de medellÍn en compaÑÍa de dos menores de edad escalÓ hasta el presidente de colombia que en su cuenta dijo que pedirÁ la extradiciÓn. el alcalde de medellÍn usos toques de queda menores. tambiÉn exige que el hombre pague por lo que hizo. >> no vamos a estar tranquilos hasta que se haga justicia y pague por
el bate de bÉisbol sigue al lado de su puerta. presentador: medicamento relativamente nuevo para tratar esclerosis lateral es retirado de las farmacias. tambiÉn habÍa sido aprobado en septiembre pasado en una decisiÓn muy controvertida. los pacientes deben hablar con su mÉdico. presentadora: primer ser humano en recibir un riÑÓn de cerdo fue dado de alta del hospital apenas 18 dÍas despuÉs de haberlo recibido: saliÓ del hospital general de massachusetts afirmando que su recuperaciÓn...
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in that drama, to remind you, alan bates played by the amazing toby jones was that we have alan bates himself at ten o'clock. right now on the line to speak to and hear from, seema misra. hello.— the line to speak to and hear from, seema misra. hello.- nice i the line to speak to and hear from, seema misra. hello. hello. nice to talk again- — seema misra. hello. hello. nice to talk again- just _ seema misra. hello. hello. nice to talk again. just to _ seema misra. hello. hello. nice to talk again. just to remind - seema misra. hello. hello nice to talk again. just to remind people, pregnant with your second child when you were convicted of false accounting and theft at your branch in west byfleet. peter collins as well, a subpostmaster for 3h years in blackpool, had to borrow £19,000 from a customer. still waiting for news on the claim. tim from rochdale. prosecuted in 2010. we want to hear from you and you can exchange your views and feelings with each other as well. tim, how do you feel about today? i am with each other as well. tim, how do you feel about today?— with each ot
in that drama, to remind you, alan bates played by the amazing toby jones was that we have alan bates himself at ten o'clock. right now on the line to speak to and hear from, seema misra. hello.— the line to speak to and hear from, seema misra. hello.- nice i the line to speak to and hear from, seema misra. hello. hello. nice to talk again- — seema misra. hello. hello. nice to talk again- just _ seema misra. hello. hello. nice to talk again. just to _ seema misra. hello. hello. nice to talk...
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we have seen letters from alan bates to the post office, he was sub—postmaster for around five years, flagging the issues he is having and having no response and he says the attitude of the post office has constantly been that they are right and everyone else is wrong, the horizon it system has been robust, and he said it was only once second sight, the forensic accountants who were hired to help investigate the issue, he felt after they were hired some progress was being made but that the post office were still not cooperating fully. at this time, the inquiry will continue hearing not only from alan bates but in the coming weeks we will also hearfrom some of in the coming weeks we will also hear from some of the people who held the most powerful positions at the post office at the time, including paula vennells, who was the former chief executive of the post office for much of the scandal, and we also did see during the last few minutes of the inquiry, some of the correspondence that alan bates had with paula vennells. he did think that there could be some progress and paula vennells
we have seen letters from alan bates to the post office, he was sub—postmaster for around five years, flagging the issues he is having and having no response and he says the attitude of the post office has constantly been that they are right and everyone else is wrong, the horizon it system has been robust, and he said it was only once second sight, the forensic accountants who were hired to help investigate the issue, he felt after they were hired some progress was being made but that the...
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bate's case. you could get into a room with him, right here, right now, and get his compensation sorted out couldn't you? it is not for me, we have an independent panel. but you could get it done today? i have spoken to allan bates back in 2019 when we were doing the negotiations, he is an extremely decent man and it is very important we get the right level of compensation for him. as he left, alan bates made clear he thinks there still so much to fight for. the main thing i want at the moment is for the original victim groups to get their money sooner rather than later, it has gone on far too long. what will you do when it is over? me? i will buy a little post office and put my feet up. the smile on his face said it all. he is a man who feels finally vindicated. zoe conway, bbc news. let's speak to david enright, a partner at howe & co solicitors who represented some of the post office vicitim. the smile on the face of mr bates today, he was the star witness today but the final act, certainly we'
bate's case. you could get into a room with him, right here, right now, and get his compensation sorted out couldn't you? it is not for me, we have an independent panel. but you could get it done today? i have spoken to allan bates back in 2019 when we were doing the negotiations, he is an extremely decent man and it is very important we get the right level of compensation for him. as he left, alan bates made clear he thinks there still so much to fight for. the main thing i want at the moment...
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over the year, alan bates has written to a series over the years, alan bates has written to a series of government minister, in charge of the post office. you in fact sent a reply to mr davie. the inquiry was shown alert sent to the post office minister ed davey injuly 2010, where alan bates called his refusal to intervene notjust disappointing but offensive. he said the post office had been operating as little more than thugs in suits, and ed davey enabled them to carry on with immunity, regardless of the human misery and suffering they inflict. interviewed at a building site in kent, mr davey responded. alan bates is a hero, but like him, when i put those concerns to post office executives, i was lied to, just like sub—postmasters were lied to. alan bates was forced to give up being a sub—postmaster and lost his life savings after being falsely accused of stealing £1,000. he called the process of getting compensation cruel. i am trying to fight for everyone's financial redress, but i have to fight for my own as well and i have no doubt that there is a bit of vindictiveness com
over the year, alan bates has written to a series over the years, alan bates has written to a series of government minister, in charge of the post office. you in fact sent a reply to mr davie. the inquiry was shown alert sent to the post office minister ed davey injuly 2010, where alan bates called his refusal to intervene notjust disappointing but offensive. he said the post office had been operating as little more than thugs in suits, and ed davey enabled them to carry on with immunity,...
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alan | bates. thank you very much for previously _ bates. thank you very much for previously providing _ bates. thank you very much for previously providing a - bates. thank you very much for - previously providing a comprehensive and detailed witness statement to the inquiry and for coming to london today to give evidence to insist that it might assist the inquiry and its work. can we start by looking at your witness statement. it is the only hard copy document i will ask you to refer to. it has for the purposes of the transcript that you are in w itn, 3050500 has top edges up are in w itn, 3050500 has top edges up on the screen. it is 59 pages long excluding the exhibits page and estate dated the 29th of february. i picked up a couple of typos and i were the weather we can correct them first. on page 23, and the foot of page 23, paragraph 75. it says the cw were not involved in this period as i recall. the nfs p in the letter, should that save from colin baker? , , ., letter, should that save from colin baker?_ cross - letter, should that
alan | bates. thank you very much for previously _ bates. thank you very much for previously providing _ bates. thank you very much for previously providing a - bates. thank you very much for - previously providing a comprehensive and detailed witness statement to the inquiry and for coming to london today to give evidence to insist that it might assist the inquiry and its work. can we start by looking at your witness statement. it is the only hard copy document i will ask you to refer to. it...
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alan bates was _ never bothered ringing it. alan bates was forced _ never bothered ringing it. alan bates was forced to _ never bothered ringing it. risky bates was forced to give up being a subpostmaster and lost his life savings after being falsely accused of stealing £1000. over the next couple of months the inquiry will hear from couple of months the inquiry will hearfrom some of couple of months the inquiry will hear from some of the biggest figures in this story. former royal mail group boss adam crozier will appear later this week. he will be followed later this month by angela van den bogerd, whose role in their post office prosecution of innocent subpostmasters has been heavily criticised. ex chief executive paula vennells, who was stripped of her cbe earlier this year, will give three days of evidence in may. nick reed, the post office chief executive, watched on as alan bates gave evidence. counsel to the inquiryjason beer are read out an internal post office memo that had said alan bates had been an unmanageable subpostmaster, and the memo said he did not follow in
alan bates was _ never bothered ringing it. alan bates was forced _ never bothered ringing it. alan bates was forced to _ never bothered ringing it. risky bates was forced to give up being a subpostmaster and lost his life savings after being falsely accused of stealing £1000. over the next couple of months the inquiry will hear from couple of months the inquiry will hearfrom some of couple of months the inquiry will hear from some of the biggest figures in this story. former royal mail group...
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. _ bates. people have got to be held accountable. i— bates. people have got to be held accountable. i see - bates. people have got to be held accountable. i see no i bates. people have got to be l held accountable. i see no sign of it yet, but i think after the enquiry, then i think that is definitely the next stage, and then we started looking at prosecutions, notjust that and then we started looking at prosecutions, not just that as well, there is a huge bonuses being paid to people over the years, some of that should be clawed back. bill years, some of that should be clawed back.— clawed back. all eyes are now on what this _ clawed back. all eyes are now on what this enquiry - clawed back. all eyes are now on what this enquiry is - clawed back. all eyes are now on what this enquiry is about | on what this enquiry is about to uncover. on what this enquiry is about to uncover-— on what this enquiry is about to uncover. we have done the groundwork- _ to uncover. we have done the groundwork. we _ to uncover. we have done the groundwork. we
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thank you very much, mr bates. i'm going to ask mr bates. i'm not going to ask you about every aspect you questions about every aspect of witness statement, you questions about every aspect of \it'sess statement, you questions about every aspect of \it's long:atement, you questions about every aspect of \it's long and 1ent, you questions about every aspect of \it's long and detailed , because it's long and detailed, and a copy of it will be uploaded to the inquiry's website today , so the public can website today, so the public can read it. can i start the statement can come down, please? can i start with a little bit about your background? you tell us in your witness statement. it's paragraph five. no need to turn it up . that before you turn it up. that before you became a subpostmaster, you worked for 12 years in the heritage and leisure project management sector, is that right? >> that's correct . >> that's correct. >> that's correct. >> and is it right that in the course of that work you developed experience in electronic point of sale
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alan bates. ijust want i just want to ask you some questions about the rest of the e—mail, even though you were not copied into it because they are relevant to later witnesses. if we scroll up the page. it is sent to andrew parsons amongst others. and then in the e—mail, there is a reply from the head of portfolio, legal risk and governance, mark underwood, saying jfsa have issued a statement, the statement is included in the note below, it says, and i do not think there's anything you included in it, save for the claim that over 1000 sub—postmasters across the uk iooo sub—postmasters across the uk have to join the action, concerning they have used the word applied rather than just joint they have used the word applied rather than justjoint or similar. and then, further up... we are to hearfrom the group and then, further up... we are to hear from the group director of legal governance. the key words are underlined. and then further up the page, andrew parsons says that he is happy with t
alan bates. ijust want i just want to ask you some questions about the rest of the e—mail, even though you were not copied into it because they are relevant to later witnesses. if we scroll up the page. it is sent to andrew parsons amongst others. and then in the e—mail, there is a reply from the head of portfolio, legal risk and governance, mark underwood, saying jfsa have issued a statement, the statement is included in the note below, it says, and i do not think there's anything you...
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alan bates was fairly familiar and fluid with it systems, he has had previousjobs before and when he heard the horizon it system was introduced, he said he was feeling positive about it. that didn't last long because he started noticing very quickly that they were shortfalls that simply couldn't be explained. he try to track down those transactions that he or his assistants but they couldn't. he said the system didn't allow him to. what followed were hundreds of calls with the dedicated helpline, more than 80 of which were dedicated to theissues than 80 of which were dedicated to the issues he was having with horizon it. he says it essentially proved useless. they weren't able to help him track down where these shortfalls came from. but what he calls stubbornness, his refusal to accept liability for those shortfalls despite the contract that sub—postmaster sign. those letters we saw when he complained about the issues he was having, clearly indicated that he was not going to accept liability for this, and what the council made clear was that he didn't receive any response from the
alan bates was fairly familiar and fluid with it systems, he has had previousjobs before and when he heard the horizon it system was introduced, he said he was feeling positive about it. that didn't last long because he started noticing very quickly that they were shortfalls that simply couldn't be explained. he try to track down those transactions that he or his assistants but they couldn't. he said the system didn't allow him to. what followed were hundreds of calls with the dedicated...
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alan bates, a former sub—postmaster who has been leading the campaign calling for accountability, that is why his campaign group is called thejustice for sub—postmaster is alliance. a lot of what he has been showing is flagging issues with the horizon it scandal and received no response. this has been difficult to relive for some of the hundreds of victims who have gone through this scandal and some of whom are here today. i want to introduce you to one of them. anna who is with me and has been listening to this throughout the day. anna, you know are here for the day. anna, you know are here for the first day sharing your story, and what has happened to you. you said it was difficult, in your own words, what is it that you have been through? it is difficult reliving this and saying it aloud, talking to the press, our contract was terminated 2003 but they ran the post office from 2003 to 2007 on our premises for 2.5 years without paying us any rent, no extra bills —— electricity bills. rent, no extra bills -- electricity bills. ~ ., , ., ., bills. we have been going through this f
alan bates, a former sub—postmaster who has been leading the campaign calling for accountability, that is why his campaign group is called thejustice for sub—postmaster is alliance. a lot of what he has been showing is flagging issues with the horizon it scandal and received no response. this has been difficult to relive for some of the hundreds of victims who have gone through this scandal and some of whom are here today. i want to introduce you to one of them. anna who is with me and has...
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but that, bates we but before that, alan bates we all know alan bates. he's led the campaign for justice all know alan bates. he's led the campaign forjustice in all know alan bates. he's led the campaign for justice in the post office scandal. he had his story turned an itv drama . story turned into an itv drama. and while he's giving evidence to the post office inquiry today, right now, yes, he suggested those responsible suggested that those responsible for the post office scandal should be prosecuted. >> speaking to another broadcaster, he said people have got to be held accountable. >> yes, he's been very clear on that. indeed well, we're joined by our correspondent theo chikomba. theo, this is a big moment in this inquiry. chikomba. theo, this is a big moment in this inquiry . vie what moment in this inquiry. vie what has alan bates said so far ? has alan bates said so far? >> yes. well, it's been described as the most widespread miscarriage of justice. >> and alan bates today is giving evidence here at aldwych house in central london. now, in prev
but that, bates we but before that, alan bates we all know alan bates. he's led the campaign for justice all know alan bates. he's led the campaign forjustice in all know alan bates. he's led the campaign for justice in the post office scandal. he had his story turned an itv drama . story turned into an itv drama. and while he's giving evidence to the post office inquiry today, right now, yes, he suggested those responsible suggested that those responsible for the post office scandal should be...
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mr bates, what about the fact ou long. mr bates, what about the fact you haven't got _ long. mr bates, what about the fact you haven't got your— long. mr bates, what about the fact you haven't got your money? - long. mr bates, what about the fact l you haven't got your money? exactly, what about a? — you haven't got your money? exactly, what about a? i'm _ you haven't got your money? exactly, what about a? i'm in _ you haven't got your money? exactly, what about a? i'm in no _ what about a? i'm in no special place in the queue, i'm just one of the many and yeah, theyjust have to get on with it, get on and get people paid. get on with it, get on and get people paid-— get on with it, get on and get people paid. get on with it, get on and get --eole aid. people paid. nick reed was in the room, couldn't _ people paid. nick reed was in the room, couldn't he _ people paid. nick reed was in the room, couldn't he have _ people paid. nick reed was in the room, couldn't he have done - people paid. nick reed was in the room, couldn't he have done a . people paid. nick reed was in
mr bates, what about the fact ou long. mr bates, what about the fact you haven't got _ long. mr bates, what about the fact you haven't got your— long. mr bates, what about the fact you haven't got your money? - long. mr bates, what about the fact l you haven't got your money? exactly, what about a? — you haven't got your money? exactly, what about a? i'm _ you haven't got your money? exactly, what about a? i'm in _ you haven't got your money? exactly, what about a? i'm in no _ what about a?...
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from alan bates, the testimony from alan bates, the sub—postmaster who really was the kind of supporter, the campaigner and the person who brought all of those sub—postmasters and post mistresses together. you could argue without alan bates�* work and his bravery stepping up and holding those in power to account we may never have been having this conversation. that is right and the day the alan bates was speaking and the second day, tory peer campaigning on this issue for nearly 15 years, when he was here, a lot of victims were at the inquiry because they became a community here, in fact, i do want to bring janet skinner in, she is here with me, she was sitting in that inquiry, thank you so much for your time. alan cook, at the end there, said he wanted to speak to you, if you were willing to, did you end up accepting the offer and what did he say? just end up accepting the offer and what did he sa 7, , end up accepting the offer and what didhesa7, , did he say? just the fact he was sor for did he say? just the fact he was sorry for everything _ did he say? just the fact he was sorr
from alan bates, the testimony from alan bates, the sub—postmaster who really was the kind of supporter, the campaigner and the person who brought all of those sub—postmasters and post mistresses together. you could argue without alan bates�* work and his bravery stepping up and holding those in power to account we may never have been having this conversation. that is right and the day the alan bates was speaking and the second day, tory peer campaigning on this issue for nearly 15 years,...
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a clear signal was given to bates that all future losses would be recovered. significantly further training and support was given to beets at that time. was that true? it is true if that is what it says. it is true if that is what it says. i meant — it is true if that is what it says. i meant in _ it is true if that is what it says. i meant in reality. no, i am afraid it was— i meant in reality. no, i am afraid it was not — it was not. later it transpired that bates admitted that he continued to roll over losses. did you have to admit to this or where you are in fact telling line managers... i to this or where you are in fact telling line managers. . .- telling line managers... i had already informed _ telling line managers... i had already informed them. - telling line managers... i had already informed them. i - telling line managers... i had already informed them. i was telling line managers... i had - already informed them. i was not hiding _ already informed them. i was not hiding the — already informed them. i was not hiding the fact, they were w
a clear signal was given to bates that all future losses would be recovered. significantly further training and support was given to beets at that time. was that true? it is true if that is what it says. it is true if that is what it says. i meant — it is true if that is what it says. i meant in _ it is true if that is what it says. i meant in reality. no, i am afraid it was— i meant in reality. no, i am afraid it was not — it was not. later it transpired that bates admitted that he...
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its star witness, alan bates, the campaigner forjustice for post office employees like himself who were wrongly accused of fraud and theft. the news channel was showing him being questioned as the clock ticked towards 1:00. it dated, as you'll see, the 5th of october 2010, and the purpose of the document is a rescheduled meeting with you on the 7th of october. anchor: you're watching bbc news's special coverage of. the post office horizon it scandal. now, we've been hearing from alan bates, a former subpostmaster who has been fighting for accountability. now we will continue our coverage shortly. the live coverage of the inquiry didn't resume for more than an hour, prompting this reaction from, amongst others, greg bell. during the live feed of the post office inquiry shown on the bbc news channel on tuesday, coverage was abruptly terminated to switch to the 1:00 afternoon news, just as alan bates was about to discuss details of his correspondence with ed davey, the present leader of the liberal democrats, who was minister in charge of the post office at the time. the 1:00 news is readi
its star witness, alan bates, the campaigner forjustice for post office employees like himself who were wrongly accused of fraud and theft. the news channel was showing him being questioned as the clock ticked towards 1:00. it dated, as you'll see, the 5th of october 2010, and the purpose of the document is a rescheduled meeting with you on the 7th of october. anchor: you're watching bbc news's special coverage of. the post office horizon it scandal. now, we've been hearing from alan bates, a...
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gwen was the writer of alan bates versus the post office. iiialie bates versus the post office. none of us expected _ bates versus the post office. none of us expected the _ bates versus the post office. none of us expected the drama _ bates versus the post office. none of us expected the drama to - bates versus the post office. iime of us expected the drama to take off then this way. we knew we had done something good. everyone's stories are heartbreaking and marvellous and who could fail to make a great tv drama out of them? we did not expect chuka umunna it is difficult. it is computers and the law, difficult to get a grip. —— we did not expect... i kept asking the same questions because i could not understand it, i can understand what was going on. no surprise it took a drama to get it into the public consciousness, like it did. how wonderfully the british public took it on, the nerve we struck with the tv drama, an extraordinary experience. it started to be shown — extraordinary experience. it started to be shown in _ extraordinary experience. it started to be shown i
gwen was the writer of alan bates versus the post office. iiialie bates versus the post office. none of us expected _ bates versus the post office. none of us expected the _ bates versus the post office. none of us expected the drama _ bates versus the post office. none of us expected the drama to - bates versus the post office. iime of us expected the drama to take off then this way. we knew we had done something good. everyone's stories are heartbreaking and marvellous and who could fail to...
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mr bates explaining why he did not aet u- well. mr bates explaining why he did not get no the _ well. mr bates explaining why he did not get up the fight _ well. mr bates explaining why he did not get up the fight for _ well. mr bates explaining why he did not get up the fight forjustice. - hundreds of subpostmasters were wrongly prosecuted for theft or false accounting because the horizon system was faulty. let's talk to christopher head, former subpostmaster from west boldon in sunderland. he took it over when he was 18, he ended up being accused wrongly — by the post office of an £88,500 shortfall. thank you for being with us. why did you want to be there today? it was important to support allen for the work he has done over the years and to hear exactly what was communicated with the post office from an early stage. we've heard things but what we reveal today is that they knew ten years before that. and it seems to be what you could only describe as a cover—up. and that is what struck you today that they knew those years a
mr bates explaining why he did not aet u- well. mr bates explaining why he did not get no the _ well. mr bates explaining why he did not get up the fight _ well. mr bates explaining why he did not get up the fight for _ well. mr bates explaining why he did not get up the fight forjustice. - hundreds of subpostmasters were wrongly prosecuted for theft or false accounting because the horizon system was faulty. let's talk to christopher head, former subpostmaster from west boldon in sunderland. he...
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i9; secondly, on the 12th ofjuly 2012 between second site, you, alan bates and caitlin l our accountant. and then there was a series of correspondence between you and alan bates which i'm not going to address what is the long and short of it that mps, through your offices, started to send cases to individual cases to second site after the appointment?— cases to second site after the a- ointment? , :, ., :, appointment? yes, and although it ma have appointment? yes, and although it may have been _ appointment? yes, and although it may have been via me _ appointment? yes, and although it may have been via me or _ appointment? yes, and although it may have been via me or my - appointment? yes, and although it| may have been via me or my office, probably was. 5a may have been via me or my office, probably was-— i l probably was. so you are a help. i was. for probably was. so you are a help. i was- for the _ probably was. so you are a help. i was. for the forwarding _ probably was. so you are a help. i was. for the forwarding of- probably was. so you are a help. i was. for the forwarding
i9; secondly, on the 12th ofjuly 2012 between second site, you, alan bates and caitlin l our accountant. and then there was a series of correspondence between you and alan bates which i'm not going to address what is the long and short of it that mps, through your offices, started to send cases to individual cases to second site after the appointment?— cases to second site after the a- ointment? , :, ., :, appointment? yes, and although it ma have appointment? yes, and although it may have...
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now to a dramatic day at the post office inquiry and alan bates , of course, who had his bates, of course, who had his story turned into an itv drama that catapulted the scandal into the public eye, has said the post office spent 23 years attempting to discredit and silence him. well, i'm joined now by gb news national reporter theo chikomba. theo, welcome to the show. this is the witness, if you like that everybody has been waiting for some dramatic testimony from mr bates. what's been said today ? been said today? >> yeah, well, alan bates has described himself as stubborn, saying that's a characteristic that led to him fighting for years, not only for himself, his family , but also for hundreds of family, but also for hundreds of subpostmasters and postmistresses right across the country. he worked in a post office in north wales up until the early 2000, and subsequently wanted to sort out this situation when he saw that there were issues with the it system, which had been introduced in his post office, and he was saying him and his colleagues attempted to call the helpline over 500 ti
now to a dramatic day at the post office inquiry and alan bates , of course, who had his bates, of course, who had his story turned into an itv drama that catapulted the scandal into the public eye, has said the post office spent 23 years attempting to discredit and silence him. well, i'm joined now by gb news national reporter theo chikomba. theo, welcome to the show. this is the witness, if you like that everybody has been waiting for some dramatic testimony from mr bates. what's been said...
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the victims i have spoken to have travelled from far, work rebel earlier secure bates see their piece. one it was refreshing to hear what happened rather than hearing executives think they cannot remember correspondences, instances. alan bates has been showing the letters he repeatedly wrote flagging up the issues, and later he was not alone in experiencing these problems and describe the attitude of the post office as one essentially of we are always right and you are always wrong and constantly repeating that the horizon it system is robust. the inquiry started by jason, the horizon it system is robust. the inquiry started byjason, inquiry counsel raising concerns about disclosure, making sure all the witness statements are delayed, instead of coming in late, the post of said it regrets it has not been able to deliver all documents in a way that satisfies all parties. this is resuming now. tt way that satisfies all parties. this is resuming now.— is resuming now. it says it was never agreed _ is resuming now. it says it was never agreed that _ is resuming now. it says it was never
the victims i have spoken to have travelled from far, work rebel earlier secure bates see their piece. one it was refreshing to hear what happened rather than hearing executives think they cannot remember correspondences, instances. alan bates has been showing the letters he repeatedly wrote flagging up the issues, and later he was not alone in experiencing these problems and describe the attitude of the post office as one essentially of we are always right and you are always wrong and...
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first up, though, in the witness chair, will be alan bates. people have got to be held accountable. i see no sign of it yet, er... but i think, after the inquiry, then i think that's definitely the next stage. and then we start looking at prosecutions. notjust that, as well — i mean, huge bonuses have been paid to people over the years. some of that should be clawed back. all eyes are now on what this inquiry is about to uncover. we've done the groundwork. we've found out the system was broken and that people knew the system was broken. so now we're going to find out what the leaders of the post office did with that information. we are deeply concerned that there is growing evidence that there was a cover—up. victims will be watching. they want accountability, too — as well as full and fair compensation. emma simpson, bbc news. the post office minister, kevin hollinrake, has been speaking to bbc breakfast — and says the inquiry is important to make sure those responsible are held to account. what evidence has been established and people should be prosecuted. that's my view.
first up, though, in the witness chair, will be alan bates. people have got to be held accountable. i see no sign of it yet, er... but i think, after the inquiry, then i think that's definitely the next stage. and then we start looking at prosecutions. notjust that, as well — i mean, huge bonuses have been paid to people over the years. some of that should be clawed back. all eyes are now on what this inquiry is about to uncover. we've done the groundwork. we've found out the system was...
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and unlike bates, he was not offensive to immigrant voters. so all these things, john, the know nothings, the germans, the location, the convention, the momentary lack tally sheets, all these slotted into place perfectly for lincoln. the party insiders also knew that they could sell lincoln's classic to riches story of ftg from a poor child hood in aabinnd already he was known as the rail splitter for having split thousands of rails after he came to illinois. he did seem an unusually man and a man of the people. soon after getting the news from chicago by telegraph, lincoln walked home alone. there's a little woman down at our house who would like to hear this. he. the seward supporters, were livid to see the nominee stolen away from them. and they blamed this man. new york tribune editor horace greeley. greeley's probably most famous for saying go west young, and he spent the week warning delegates that seward was too control to win the men thought it was all an act of vengeance since wheat and seward had refused to make greeley lieutenant go
and unlike bates, he was not offensive to immigrant voters. so all these things, john, the know nothings, the germans, the location, the convention, the momentary lack tally sheets, all these slotted into place perfectly for lincoln. the party insiders also knew that they could sell lincoln's classic to riches story of ftg from a poor child hood in aabinnd already he was known as the rail splitter for having split thousands of rails after he came to illinois. he did seem an unusually man and a...
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dropping suzie bates twice in the first couple balls, early frustration there for all to see. it was missed opportunities would be costly in the short—term, bates top scored with a half century, but when she fell, new zealand struggled to get going again, all upper a target not beyond england but things started badly. tammy borman gone before it runs scored and by the time they reached 79. straight through danny white is amelia kerr. six wickets had fallen. jones quickly bringing up a half—century to give england hope and that target continued to get closer asjones hit an unbeaten 92, combining with her partner for record—breaking partnership to win the game. england had to hammonds and full of confidence. so, england one up with two to play, thanks to that brilliant knock of 92 from jones every game's important, but i think to start a series well makes it that little bit extra. obviously, you don't want to go behind early on in the series, so to get that win was, i think, huge for us. under tricky circumstances, and i think the whole batting group will get a lot of conf
dropping suzie bates twice in the first couple balls, early frustration there for all to see. it was missed opportunities would be costly in the short—term, bates top scored with a half century, but when she fell, new zealand struggled to get going again, all upper a target not beyond england but things started badly. tammy borman gone before it runs scored and by the time they reached 79. straight through danny white is amelia kerr. six wickets had fallen. jones quickly bringing up a...
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this is a letter to you from mr bates. he says, having had the opportunity to reflect on the meeting at portcullis house, the one you're talking about, i thought it important to convey to you the concerns that both kay linnell and i took from the second sight report and the second document they produced for the meeting, the one who just looked at. whilst every individual�*s case is extremely important to that individual it is also doubly so any weight that it adds to the systemic failures with the post office and their horizon system. these are issues which we are at first i have been raising for years and having cosy work to second sight of the past few months we can see that they, too, have independently arrived at the same conclusions through their analysis of the cases. we can neither understand why second sight are so reluctant... you have been watching the post office horizon it inquiry. this is our bbc news coverage. you've been listening to lord james arbuthnot. he is a tory peer but he was a conservative mp and
this is a letter to you from mr bates. he says, having had the opportunity to reflect on the meeting at portcullis house, the one you're talking about, i thought it important to convey to you the concerns that both kay linnell and i took from the second sight report and the second document they produced for the meeting, the one who just looked at. whilst every individual�*s case is extremely important to that individual it is also doubly so any weight that it adds to the systemic failures...
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the moment in the itv drama where former subpostmaster alan bates picks the spot for the fightback. alan! jo hamilton is there to meet him. they'd no idea how many would come for the first meeting — but come, they did. hello, jo! hello! the realjo hamilton remembers it well. it galvanised me, certainly — made me so angry when we all told exactly the same stories, and you realised we'd all been shafted. in the beginning, we were just a little circle in the middle. but it ended up — the word spread, and more and more postmasters came. and, er, yeah, we... look where we are. it's been a long road, though. that first campaign meeting in fenny compton was in 2009. eight years later, alan bates took legal action against the post office, and his group eventually won. in 2021, the court of appeal quashed the convictions of 39 subpostmasters in a landmark ruling. the year after, the public inquiry began hearing evidence — starting with the victims. the next phase starts in this room tomorrow. the inquiry has slowly been trying to join the dots, and it's now focusing on who knew what
the moment in the itv drama where former subpostmaster alan bates picks the spot for the fightback. alan! jo hamilton is there to meet him. they'd no idea how many would come for the first meeting — but come, they did. hello, jo! hello! the realjo hamilton remembers it well. it galvanised me, certainly — made me so angry when we all told exactly the same stories, and you realised we'd all been shafted. in the beginning, we were just a little circle in the middle. but it ended up — the...
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on top of all of that, when alan bates took on the post office in court and won, thejudge alan bates took on the post office in court and won, the judge accused angela van den bogerd of having misled the court. this is only day one of her giving evidence, there will be plenty of questions for her and the sub—postmasters will want to know if they will see any accountability today. you can follow all of the inquiry live on bbc iplayer and on the bbc news website. to china next. america's top diplomat — secretary of state, antony blinken, has said washington and beijing should manage their differences responsibly on the second day of his visit to the country. mr blinken spoke in shanghai of the need for direct engagement, saying china and the us must resolve their differences together. ahead of tough talks with senior officials on issues such as russia and taiwan, mr blinken began his visit to shanghai eating steamed buns at a restaurant, and watching a basketball game. although tensions have eased between the two nations since last year, disagreements on issues such as trade and se
on top of all of that, when alan bates took on the post office in court and won, thejudge alan bates took on the post office in court and won, the judge accused angela van den bogerd of having misled the court. this is only day one of her giving evidence, there will be plenty of questions for her and the sub—postmasters will want to know if they will see any accountability today. you can follow all of the inquiry live on bbc iplayer and on the bbc news website. to china next. america's top...
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su madre fue golpeada con un bate, causándole la muerte. según la policía de esa ciudad, el sospechoso de su muerte, jason dixon, de 42 años, fue acusado de homicidio. me encuentro en este barrio en palo alto porque fue aquí donde ocurrió esa tragedia. hablé con un vecino que, asegura, vive a un lado de donde vivía la víctima y el sospechoso, y recuerda que los escuchaba pelear casi todos los días. defendant and our victim were living together. según el fiscal steven wagstaff, la víctima y dixon vivían juntos, pero que no tenían una relación amorosa. sabemos que tenían peleas, lo que terminó. desafortunadamente, en la muerte de la víctima. sin embargo, las hijas aseguran, eran pareja por varios años y temían que su madre fuera víctima de violencia doméstica. no solo que le pegó de vez en cuando. le mató. y eso pasó. las cosas más horribles que puede pasar a una mujer pasó a mi mamá. sus hijas creen que dixon mató a su mamá porque en mayo del 2021, tres meses antes de su muerte, reportó que tenía información d
su madre fue golpeada con un bate, causándole la muerte. según la policía de esa ciudad, el sospechoso de su muerte, jason dixon, de 42 años, fue acusado de homicidio. me encuentro en este barrio en palo alto porque fue aquí donde ocurrió esa tragedia. hablé con un vecino que, asegura, vive a un lado de donde vivía la víctima y el sospechoso, y recuerda que los escuchaba pelear casi todos los días. defendant and our victim were living together. según el fiscal steven wagstaff, la...
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mr bates has it software system. mr bates has been giving his version of events ahead of appearances by senior executives from the post office and fujitsu , the company office and fujitsu, the company which built the software. and he's been less than compliments about the future of the post office itself . office itself. >> they need disbanding, it needs removing, it needs building up again from the ground floor. and as i've been quoted quite commonly, the whole of the whole of the postal service nowadays, it's beyond it's a dead duck. it's beyond saving. it needs a real big injection of money and i think that can only happen coming in from outside. otherwise it's just going to be it's going to be a bugbear for the government for the years to come . for the years to come. >> now, campaigners are calling on the government to ban pesticides. in fact, 25 pesticides, which are which contain so—called forever chemicals after the potentially harmful toxins were found in more than half of food and drink samples, pfoa chem
mr bates has it software system. mr bates has been giving his version of events ahead of appearances by senior executives from the post office and fujitsu , the company office and fujitsu, the company which built the software. and he's been less than compliments about the future of the post office itself . office itself. >> they need disbanding, it needs removing, it needs building up again from the ground floor. and as i've been quoted quite commonly, the whole of the whole of the postal...
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tonight at ten — "thugs in suits" — how alan bates described the post office as he gives evidence to the inquiry into the wrongful convictions of hundreds of postmasters. he's led the campaign forjustice for years and still has one aim for his fellow former postmasters. for the original victim groups to get their money sooner rather than later. i mean, it's gone on far too long. the group of women, mostly in their 70s, sucessfully sued their home country of switzerland for not protecting them from climate change. the man arrested on suspicion of murdering a mother as she pushed her baby in a pram — her family talk to the bbc. works it to foden, created the opening, brilliant! and a champions league thriller, with six goals finding the back of the net, including this stunner from england's phil foden. and on newsnight at 10.30, we'll go deeper behind the headlines and speak live to key players on today's big stories. plus — a first look at tomorrow's front pages. good evening. he became a household name when his story was told to millions in a tv drama, and today the real alan bat
tonight at ten — "thugs in suits" — how alan bates described the post office as he gives evidence to the inquiry into the wrongful convictions of hundreds of postmasters. he's led the campaign forjustice for years and still has one aim for his fellow former postmasters. for the original victim groups to get their money sooner rather than later. i mean, it's gone on far too long. the group of women, mostly in their 70s, sucessfully sued their home country of switzerland for not...
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su madre fue golpeada con un bate, causándole la muerte. según la policía de esa ciudad, el sospechoso de su muerte, jason dixon, de 42 años, fue acusado de homicidio. me encuentro en este barrio en palo alto porque fue aquí donde ocurrió esa tragedia. hablé con un vecino que, asegura, vive a un lado de donde vivía la víctima y el sospechoso, y recuerda que los escuchaba pelear casi todos los días. defendant and our victim were living together. según el fiscal steven wagstaff, la víctima y dixon vivían juntos, pero que no tenían una relación amorosa. sabemos que tenían peleas, lo que terminó. desafortunadamente, en la muerte de la víctima. sin embargo, las hijas aseguran, eran pareja por varios años y temían que su madre fuera víctima de violencia doméstica. no solo que le pegó de vez en cuando. le mató. y eso pasó. las cosas más horribles que puede pasar a una mujer pasó a mi mamá. sus hijas creen que dixon mató a su mamá porque en mayo del 2021, tres meses antes de su muerte, reportó que tenía información d
su madre fue golpeada con un bate, causándole la muerte. según la policía de esa ciudad, el sospechoso de su muerte, jason dixon, de 42 años, fue acusado de homicidio. me encuentro en este barrio en palo alto porque fue aquí donde ocurrió esa tragedia. hablé con un vecino que, asegura, vive a un lado de donde vivía la víctima y el sospechoso, y recuerda que los escuchaba pelear casi todos los días. defendant and our victim were living together. según el fiscal steven wagstaff, la...
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duplicate squads of dynamo minsk, tarpe dalas, bate and shakhtar, new members of the first league. the fifth team new to the country's second strongest football division was the belarus u-17 team. the latter just achieved the most decisive victory in the first round. after a mistake by the goalkeeper, the guests snatched victoria at home from strong bumprom in the 93rd minute, 2:1. congratulations. with the start of the season, of course, that it was, to put it mildly, unpleasant, that what happened was like 1:0, we should have won, given your status, what is our status? the status is the same as that of all teams, by and large the opponent didn’t really create anything, two key mistakes by the goalkeeper and it doesn’t matter how old the goalkeeper is, how old, well, so as not to offend anyone, but you probably can’t play like that, the head of the belarusian national team u-17 pavel giseenko did not hide his joy at his debut in the first league, but thanked, first of all, the football federation. as an exception, we we allow the participation of slightly older guys, but the
duplicate squads of dynamo minsk, tarpe dalas, bate and shakhtar, new members of the first league. the fifth team new to the country's second strongest football division was the belarus u-17 team. the latter just achieved the most decisive victory in the first round. after a mistake by the goalkeeper, the guests snatched victoria at home from strong bumprom in the 93rd minute, 2:1. congratulations. with the start of the season, of course, that it was, to put it mildly, unpleasant, that what...
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first of all that is mr bates himself, alan bates. he may have been played by toby and the drama but he has been a tireless campaigner forjustice on behalf of sub—postmasters, hundreds of whom were prosecuted and facing ruin on charges of fraud and false accounting. he has spearheaded a legal campaign resulting in a court ruling in 2019 that the horizon accounting software was faulty, it had bugs, errors and defects in it. since then he has been campaigning for those who were prosecuted to be exonerated. the legal process is ongoing. also for the compensation process to be speeded up because it has been extremely slow. he will take to the stand today. later on we will hear from a swathe of former executives within the post office itself. laterthis executives within the post office itself. later this week, executives within the post office itself. laterthis week, on executives within the post office itself. later this week, on friday, we will be hearing from the chief executive of the post office in the early stages. he has not been
first of all that is mr bates himself, alan bates. he may have been played by toby and the drama but he has been a tireless campaigner forjustice on behalf of sub—postmasters, hundreds of whom were prosecuted and facing ruin on charges of fraud and false accounting. he has spearheaded a legal campaign resulting in a court ruling in 2019 that the horizon accounting software was faulty, it had bugs, errors and defects in it. since then he has been campaigning for those who were prosecuted to be...
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dear alan bates, thank you for your letter requesting a meeting. since 2001 when the royal mail were set up as a public limited company, the government has adopted an arm's—length relationship with a company so that it has a commercial freedom. the integrity of the post office system is it contractual matter for the post office and not the government. and while i appreciate your concerns, i do not believe that a meeting would serve any useful purpose. you tell us in your witness statement, that you took offence at the term arm's—length, to describe the role that the government played in relation to overseeing and monitoring the post office. why? it monitoring the post office. why? it is because of the structure, the government is the sole shareholder and the _ government is the sole shareholder and the owners of all of this. how can you _ and the owners of all of this. how can you run — and the owners of all of this. how can you run or take control, take responsibility for an organisation without— responsibility for an organisation without
dear alan bates, thank you for your letter requesting a meeting. since 2001 when the royal mail were set up as a public limited company, the government has adopted an arm's—length relationship with a company so that it has a commercial freedom. the integrity of the post office system is it contractual matter for the post office and not the government. and while i appreciate your concerns, i do not believe that a meeting would serve any useful purpose. you tell us in your witness statement,...
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mr bates has it software system. mr bates has been giving his version
mr bates has it software system. mr bates has been giving his version
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mr bates continues, i'm aware of martin's_ them. mr bates continues, i'm aware of martin's case and i know he was terrified _ of martin's case and i know he was terrified to — of martin's case and i know he was terrified to raise the shortages with the — terrified to raise the shortages with the post office because ofjust this type _ with the post office because ofjust this type of thing happening to him. but the _ this type of thing happening to him. but the post office got him in the end _ but the post office got him in the end. regardless of what may or may not have _ end. regardless of what may or may not have occurred to him, why did the post _ not have occurred to him, why did the post office have to hound him to the post office have to hound him to the point _ the post office have to hound him to the point of— the post office have to hound him to the point of trying to take his own life? _ the point of trying to take his own life? despite numerous warnings never— life? despite numerous warnings never to— life? despi
mr bates continues, i'm aware of martin's_ them. mr bates continues, i'm aware of martin's case and i know he was terrified _ of martin's case and i know he was terrified to — of martin's case and i know he was terrified to raise the shortages with the — terrified to raise the shortages with the post office because ofjust this type _ with the post office because ofjust this type of thing happening to him. but the _ this type of thing happening to him. but the post office got him in the end...
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points rose to intermediate sixth place in the standings, the same number of points and seventh place in bate, for which this was the first defeat of the season. there was no gaming advantage today, we won due to implementation first of all, secondly due to desire. crazy, this is a victory for us we needed it like air, given the good, i think, quality of the game, in the previous two rounds we didn’t get points, plus a huge thank you to these guys who came, supported us today, drove us the whole game, there were a lot of mistakes, losses and they allowed the opponent to score from the set piece, so they brought this free kick to themselves after mistakes, well, here, as they say, we’ll sort it out. we’ll watch, we’ll figure it out, we played the second half with more pressure, probably, vadim was against it. dnepr also gets its first victory of the season, 1:0 they beat lutsk on the road, dynamo brest moved up to intermediate first place, and alexander brazevich’s team was defeated 4:0 in soligorsk shakhtyor. the third round will end tomorrow with three matches. the central match of
points rose to intermediate sixth place in the standings, the same number of points and seventh place in bate, for which this was the first defeat of the season. there was no gaming advantage today, we won due to implementation first of all, secondly due to desire. crazy, this is a victory for us we needed it like air, given the good, i think, quality of the game, in the previous two rounds we didn’t get points, plus a huge thank you to these guys who came, supported us today, drove us the...