yeah, and i've read a book by hans rosling and he's a book by hans rosling and he's a book by hans roslinghat talked about how we can look at the world using data. and actually, most people, if you ask them, oh, they say, oh, the world is , you they say, oh, the world is, you know, everything's going wrong. but actually, you know, in the last 5000 years, longer life expectancy, better literacy , expectancy, better literacy, better numeracy, better rights for women, ethnic minorities. so sometimes we obviously we always want to improve. but i think we get lost a bit in the sort of negative. >> yeah i think i mean, i think one of the most despairing things actually, i would say about the last decade and a half , i mean, you know, the tories are responsible for it in part, but also also the also, you're not in the tories anymore. i'm allowed to say it. but but you're looking at me with that stare again, aren't you? >> you're glaring at me . >> you're glaring at me. >> you're glaring at me. >> oh, your mum will tell me off, but i think what is the sort of lack of hope and the lack of optimism