kira bell, who heroically and courageously brought and brought the case of bell and tavistock , a judicialuiry. this ideology has run riot. none of us voted for it. none of us got a say in this. and yet it seems to have infested all areas of public life. and we're sick of public life. and we're sick of it. because as we can see with cats, this is not an academic debate, right? it's not the judith butlers and the gender cats, and you know , the gender cats, and you know, the stonewall's, stonewall ceo's at their black tie dinners. who paid the price for this? who pays the price? vulnerable kids, autistic kids, kids that are looked after , this is this is looked after, this is this is not okay. we need to deal with this. >> and you make the point about it not being democratic. it is in both parties. you know, this is the problem. we can't vote this out. there's no way. so is it likely that a public consultation investigation consultation or investigation will consultation or investigation wiliwell, shall we're >> well, we shall see. we're making for that's making the case for it. that's all