me because i did nothing doing debt ceiling negotiations without michael linden. good to see you here and a lot of friends and a lot of people i've known a long time and you're absolutely right, martha, everyone will let you know their opinions about what you present today. i'm truly excited to be here because, of course, budgets scoring and the question of how to assess fiscal policy is central to what my agency does, kind of in the name, management and budget. across the federal government. our score keeping efforts are not only part of omb statutory role they're central as we engage in each year's budget process making recommendations to the president and ultimately laying out his agenda to congress and the public and not written yelling at agency like where is my score, how did you dare come up with this score. what is this? i can't use this, go look at it again. that's budget score keeping, as one puts together a president's budget. at the same time because of how essential it is to the process, we're mindful of the way that some of the score keeping and othe

linden who said me he said, how are you feeling? right now? and i said, great. and he said, no, not i can see. you're concentrating on this interview. you're and he was right. i was actually exhausted i had had to wake up at 5 a.m. to do the interview because i was in l.a. and he was germany. i hated how i looked on the webcam, right? i hadn't put on makeup. i look terrible. he is relaxed and happy. we did it on his schedule in germany and if being to think about how i was feeling was to produce negative responses. so that's our doing that with kids tending to their feelings, worrying about their feelings, telling them to self-monitor and pay attention to their feelings. it sounds compassionate. it really does but i think it often and if you think about it produces the negative a negative reaction. right. because actually if you thought about it of life getting through a day involves a certain amount of repression right being good friend, being a good spouse, getting work done. it means not going to attend to all all my worries, all