clarence thomas is a grifter. he's benefitting from positions that he actually -- for taking positions he benefitted from, but for desegregating society, we would not know clarence thomas. clarence thomas is an unfortunate outcome of a tradition of black people grifting off their race to betray their race. it is unfortunate. what we have seen the supreme court do in the decision was to undermine the question of equal protection under the law, that no state should use race as a proxy to discriminate for political gain. we are living in america in 2024, not 1950s apartheid south africa. >> i think they wish we were living in 1950s apartheid south africa, including clarence who thinks somehow he might benefit so long as he's some rich man's pet. let me go to you, david. let's talk about samuel alito. his contempt for his position, his blaming of his wife, his two coup flags, and then he is the author of a ruling which says, go ahead and discriminate as long as you color it is a political discrimination, because reall

clarence thomas. who has clearly become the most publicly corrupt supreme court justice in history. taking massment amounts of money. hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy a motor home. he has not paid income taxes on that money that has been handed to him by a billionaire who doesn't want clarence thomas to have to live on his salary as a supreme court justice and his wife's substantial income. clarence thomas may be a tax criminal. we don't know yet. because he refuses to answer questions about the tax treatment of all the money that has been handed directly to him. a personal financial corruption, as egregious as it is, does not leave the mark on history that corruption of judicial scholarship leaves on the lives of everyone living under laws written, some would say invented by the supreme court. which brings us to samuel alito who was the product of a presidential election that was decided by the republican majority on the supreme court. in the year 2000 when the supreme court decided to stop co

clarence thomas may be a tax criminal. we don't know yet because he refuses to answer questions about the tax treatments of all the money that has been handed to him. personal financial corruption, as egregious as it is, does not leave the mark on history, the corruption of judicial scholarship leaves on the supreme court in the country, and the lives of everyone living under laws written, some was say, invented by the spring court. which brings us to samuel alito, who is the product of a presidential election that was decided by the republican majority on the supreme court. in the year 2000 when the supreme court decided to stop counting votes in florida, their decision, they knew, give the election to the republican candidate, george w. bush over al gore. george w. bush was the first candidate in history who did not get the most votes, but won the presidency. al gore got more votes than the person who won the electoral college or should i say come in this instance, was awarded the electoral college by the supreme court i

that court, that includes samuel alito and that includes clarence thomas.ts act under control, you can be confident that in the house of representatives partnering with democrats in the united statesenate will enact the first opportunity we have to engage in thorough ove■jkig and the consideration of imposing an ethical code of conduct that hor from last week talking about the issue. flags which in several times, a bit of an explainer from the washington examiner saint it was one of the primarag by patriot forces during the revolutionary war, designed washington, secretary read in 1775. it features a pine tree along with the words and appeal to have displayed above. in has deep symbolism as a symbol of new england dating to the revolution, already representing the lucrative shxeipbung< indit took on new in ]? in new hash colonial acts of resistance against the british empire. that was one of the flags flown at the vacation home reportedly inew jer one of two of recent causing these reactions from capitol hill and other places. ttg. e er: thank you for takin

>> i know it's true from clarence thomas, their idea and clarence thomas today wrote straight up, that he does not think the 14th amendment and the equal protection clause of that amendment can be used to protect the voting rights of black people. i mean, he's not married to ginni thomas for nothing, that's what the man things, he wrote it today. understand this, chris, when these people like alito and thomas support the insurrection, what are they really saying? they are saying that trump lost the election, but won the white vote which is true, he won the white vote by a lot, what people should probably do something about that but he won it by a lot and what alito and thomas are saying is that white vote, that's only votes that header, we should do what the white voters one and when they write these decisions like they are doing in the gerrymandering case, what they are saying is that black voters can be diluted, can have their voting rights taken away, simply because black voters happen to vote democrat. >> for a second, because you invoke thomas, he wrote a concurrence, the concurre

board. >> the case that clarence thomas thought was too overly proud?court if it wasn't for delayed justice in congress. you have delayed justice by judge cannon that is preventing a case in the public from having its day in court. you have the supreme court now delaying the insurrection case in d.c. and for all we flow, it is because of justice's alito and thomas -- >> that is right. >> and and the effort of mitch mcconnell to not implement things on a timely basis is a way to thwart the legal system. >> what they have not delayed is hunter biden's trial. thank you both very much. >>> coming up, i'm still not over this moment. >> somebody's bleach blond bad built butch body, that is jasmine crockett reading the house's biggest bully, marg orror taylor greene. and she joins me next. greene. and she joins me next. smile! you found it. the feeling of finding psoriasis can't filter out the real you. so go ahead, live unfiltered with the one and only sotyktu, a once-daily pill for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, and the chance at clear or almost clear

>> i know it is true of clarence thomas. clarence thomas in his concurrence today wrote straight up that he does not think the 14th amendment and the equal protection clause of that amendment can be used to protect the voting rights of black people. he ain't married to ginni thomas for nothing. that's what the man thinks. he wrote it today. understand this, when these people like alito and thomas support the insurrection, what are they saying? they are saying that trump won -- lost the election but won the white vote which is true. he did. he won the white vote a lot. he won the white vote by a lot. what alito and thomas are saying is it's that white trump that are the only puts it matter. we should do what the white voters want. when they write these decisions like they did in the gerrymandering case, what they are straight up saying is black voters can be diluted, can have their voting rights taken away simply because black voters happen to vote democrat. >> for a second because you invoke thomas. he joined -- the concurre

alito stella justice, clarence thomas, also faced scrutiny after who it was revealed his wife ginni sent text messages to former white house chief of staff mark meadows challenging the 2020 election results. the supreme court code of conduct says justices should not be swayed by partisan interests and should remain dignified and

>> we were jolting about what's the silver line here because at least clarence thomas is -- because he literally wants to repeal the 20th l century. saying he wants to overturn the one person, one vote rulings which earl warren said were the most important rulings of that court,or saying you can't challenge racial gerrymandering ever, whicher will basically gu the 14th and 15th amendment. he's basically saying from reconstruction onwards -- from the 1860s and '70s onwards we should repeal all of that and we should go back to the day ironically when black people have nohe rights and other racially disenfranchised minorities have no rights. yes, it's concurrence, but the fact he's even putting this out there, what we see these radical concurrences, they become theic thing the lower courts pick up on and it goes back to the supreme court. >> it reminds me of the dobbs decision where thomas is suggesting gay marriage may be something to follow. moving the goal posts down the field and saying maybe we should rethink brown. that may not be the immediate impact of all this, but it does sort o

black folk has actually been replacing clarence thurgood marshall with clarence thomas. and so one of the things is going to go into play is not just this court and the erosion of trust in this court, but the fact that donald trump has nominated three individuals on the supreme court, he has an opportunity if he wins reelection to replace two more, those two being justice alito and clarence thomas the two individuals were talking about today with ethical lapses to say it best and so i think that this is something it's not going to be a character assassination, but what it is going to be used is to highlight the fact that this court is of the utmost importance that we had a fight for this court on our hands. and if you want to continue to have the erosion of progress that was made for people of color in particular, justice alito there has been part of pulling that back and apparently he and his wife don't have any problem with being objectionable to just a regular scott jennings and curry sellers. thank you so much. i just want to quickly quickly quickly, scott, you were

and obviously, clarence thomas is a partisan.ut of the three, the one that is the most obvious is alito. the fact it feels to a lot of people out here, this no longer, they are just politicians making these decisions. that florida court and the supreme court. >> isn't this a fitting epilogue for the trump record. and now, we are left in a moment in time where we really need to have confidence in the courts. and it is tough to muster. i mean, judge cannon in florida. it is unbelievable to say she can't schedule a case for trial. because there are so many pending motions when there are so many pending motions because she spent months dragging her feet and not ruling on motions. there have been lingering issues with him and justice thomas. now we have a situation where we have a justice. and this is not just a small thing. this is a justice who now on two occasions has been identified as taking a publicly partisan stance. that is something that judges do not do. i will tell you as the wife of a judge and the daughter-in-law of a jud

thomas but so far neither men have said they would do so. >> i remember clarence thomas saying we don't talk about that thing at home. ha right. thank you so much. >>> joining me now, we have robert garcia. he is a member of the house oversight committee. welcome, it's good to see you. senate majority and other top democrats are calling on alito to recuse himself. where do you stand? >> i agree. he should not just recuse, he should resign. what alito and his wife have done is treason, it's shameful. this court is in chaos. this idea you will perpetuate this lie that the home of a supreme court justice is sick and i think it goes to show howe much reform this court needs. this country is in a very tough place in relation to this court. it is an extreme conservative court. we have never had a court like this. clarence thomas, the billionaire gifts happening, this is a court that is truly in chaos. i agree with everyone calling him to recuse himself with any sort of cases as it relates to generally six, to the immunity case but more importantly these are two supreme court judges that have

he occupied the chair that justice clarence thomas now sits in. when justice marshall and his wife came to d.c., when he took his ron the court, they were very careful. they didn't socialize with the people they had socialized with before. and they were very social people. mrs. marshall understood that she could not do the things that she had done before. her husband's position made it so important for them to maintain this complete neutrality. they had to basically sequester themselves and they didn't lead very exciting social lives. they were pretty much reclusive and d.c. once he took that spot because she knew he had to be above reproach. where is that same concern on this court for being above reproach? you would never see it for any of these liberal justices. he wouldn't have seen it from thurgood marshall. but all you do is see it from these republican justices. you can't seem to stop being instruction forward. >> the historical reference was indeed one better than my theoretical. we are running out of time. any task you real quickly. i saw

i mean, reminder, clarence thomas was put on the court to replace thurgood marshall. the irony and the sort of democratic alarm bells that should be ringing, how did you read that opinion? >> we were joking about what is the civil silver lining here, at least nobody joined thomas's concurrence because he literally wants to repeal the 20th century and that is what you trying to do here. throwing shade at brown versus board of education on the 70th anniversary of that decision, saying he wants to overturn the one person one vote rulings, which were the most important rulings of that court, saying that you can't challenge racial gerrymandering ever, which are basically got all the 14th and 15th amendments so he is basically saying from reconstruction onward, from the 1860s and 70s onwards, we should repeal all of that and we should go back to the day, ironically, when black people have no rights. and other racially disenfranchised minorities have no rights. and it is just the fact that yes, the fact that he is even putting this out there. what we see is a lot of times th

samuel alito's predicament is in addition to the ethical concerns surrounding clarence thomas, whose wife ginny thomas has been scrutinized for her political activities. she admitted to attending the rally at the ellipse on january 6th and it was revealed that in the days after that election, she was in contact with john eastman, one of the architects of the fake electors scheme, who is now facing criminal charges. besides that, recent reports have raised additional questions about both justices links to billing or conservative donors and their history of accepting gifts and luxury trips from them. their actions, as well as their apparent lack of concern over the impropriety of their actions, have contributed to the decline of public trust in the supreme court. this is all playing out against the backdrop of an incredibly important election that the court has already influenced in some ways. it is, it's highly criticized decision to hear trump's case forgotten presidential immunity means the ex-president's federal election interference case is unlikely to proceed to trial before nove

and the same thing, clarence thomas says, well, my wife and i don't discuss politics.s, you can choose not to belief it. i choose not to believe it. these are two people who by their own account have an extremely close marriage, wonderful for them. i cannot believe that given the marriage and the politics they share, that they never discuss what was going on in the lead-up to january 6th. i think every american should regard this supreme court with real caution and worry. >> well, the evidence flies in the face of both alito's statements and thomas' statements. don't go anywhere. michael and david are staying with me to discuss the pathetic parade of republicans rallying to trump's side at his criminal trial. we'll be right back. why would i use kayak to compare hundreds of travel sites at once? i like to do things myself. i can't trust anything else to do the job right. kayak... aaaaaaaahhhh kayak. search one and done. ( ♪♪ ) i thought water would help with these dry spots. that's lawn disease. but scotts healthy plus will cure it! lawn disease? been going around. so

clarence thomas created equal, clarence thomas in his own words lashes out the democrats and biden whoired the senate judiciary committee oversaw its confirmation process. among other things he says do i have like stupid written on the back of my shirt? i mean come on we know what this is all about that is the effort to destroy him. people should just tell the truth. this is the wrong black guy. he has to be destroyed just say it. now we are at least honest with each other the idea was to get rid of me and then after i was there it was to undermine me. thomas does not mention biden by name is asked by filmmakers to respond to his questioning during hearings. i have no idea what he is talking about. i understood what he was trying to do. i did not really appreciated. natural law is something more than a way of tricking me into talking about abortion. biden is a sleaze. he is minute cancer on the body politic from the day he walked into the u.s. senate. look at a deal with one of the most route renowned and brilliant legal scholars in the history of this country. jon paul stevens. libera

clarence thomas created equal, clarence thomas in his own words lashes out the democrats and biden whoed the senate judiciary committee oversaw its confirmation process. among other things he says do i have like stupid written on the back of my shirt? i mean come on we know what this is all about that is the effort to destroy him. people should just tell the truth. this is the wrong black guy. he has to be destroyed just say it. now we are at least honest with each other the idea was to get rid of me and then after i was there it was to undermine me. thomas does not mention biden by name is asked by filmmakers to respond to his questioning during hearings. i have no idea what he is talking about. i understood what he was trying to do. i did not really appreciated. natural law is something more than a way of tricking me into talking about abortion. biden is a sleaze. he is minute cancer on the body politic from the day he walked into the u.s. senate. look at a deal with one of the most route renowned and brilliant legal scholars in the history of this country. jon paul stevens. liberal

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clarence thomas' wife supported every attempt.l alito is also in full violation of the judicial code of ethics for federal judges that would apply to any other judge because samuel alito should be recused from any case involving donald trump. no member of the united states senate in history has done more to expose scandal and structural unfairness at the supreme court than our next guest. joining us now is senator sheldon whitehouse. he is also the author of the scheme. how is right wing used dark money to capture the supreme court. senator whitehouse, thank you very much for joining us. of course it wouldn't be just one flag. one flag was bad enough. but, here we are again. >> here we are again. it is not enough to be a supreme court justice flying one maga battle flag at your house. you have to have two houses and fly two maga battle flags. one at each house. it is stunning. and it is the kind of thing as you know that from anybody else would provoke an investigation. and all we get from justice alito are self-serving statements

from clarence thomas, by the first president bush. that blossomed during trump is something that you have worked very hard to expose, even before the trump justices took their seats. >> no, you are right. this goes way back to the person responsible of the appointment of justice alito. actually leonard leo, the operative of the koch brothers and creepy billionaires who have been meddling in the court. you will remember that bush originally wanted to appoint his legal counsel, his friend, fellow texan, conservative woman lawyer to replace sandra day o'connor, harriet myers. he got attacked not by democrats. he got attacked by the far right billionaires and he, humiliatingly, had to withdraw his own nomination and leo produced the agreeable justice to the creepy billionaires, none other than samuel alito. >> senator sheldon whitehouse, thank you for being on this case as long as you have. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >>> coming up, texas congressman colin allred is running against a senator who supports donald trump,

in many of these january 6th cases, we've known that clarence thomas has a serious conflict of interestve a conflict of interest. the justice gets to choose whether they recuse or not, i'm sure they wouldn't, but at least that would put the spotlight and pressure on them and create conversation around them. it's dispiriting for me when we have the january 6th cases, the trump immunity case, the j 6 insurrection criminal cas this shouldn't be happening with clarence thomas and alito other. >> how much authority does the senate judiciary committee have? >> they have minimal authority over the court's internal affairs in part because the congress has decided that it's not going to expend enough political capital to actually enact any kind of real court reform. you know, in theory, congress could reduce the supreme court's budget, zero out the budget, make them work out of a wework if they wanted to. the senate could subpoena the court for records and documents. the senate could drag sam alito before the committee and say answer these questions but it's not doing that because this is still

until i or clarence thomas die.hat there were going to be some people so angry with me that they were going to kill me. therefore, my wife wouldn't be on the hook for the money. but she didn't take that as the reassuring statement that i hoped. [ laughter ] oh, i won't be around for that. don't worry. it's fine. but it would have -- if he said -- it was both a huge relief and massively disappointing that he didn't take it. >> seth: what was the window of time you gave him? >> it was -- we gave him 30 days. honestly, i'd open it up again. [ laughter ] ahead of -- [ cheers and applause ] as long as -- >> seth: yeah. >> as long as he gets out before the -- before they're doing the june decisions. i would be willing to open discussions again. so clarence, i know i keep -- every time i'm talking to clarence through the camera here. >> seth: sure, yeah, yeah. of cousre. >> clarence, i know you're a big fan of seth. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] i think he -- i think he's not, but ginny has it on. [ laughter ] >> ginny is ju

i mean, even clarence thomas and i covered the trump administration. he would come to the white house to have lunch with mike pence almost annually it shouldn't there be just on principle, a principle that they just stay away from the politicians while they are sitting in those chairs? >> absolutely couldn't agree with you more about that. my disagreement is the assumption that he can control his spouse. i think it's a bit regressive, right. we all understand that nowadays that i can be independent journalist and would never let my spouse put a political sign outside. >> oh, that. you have a very nice standard why higher than the supreme court justice you chose very well and you have a wise spouse. >> but what that does not mean that he could have controlled what she did. we can we can assume we're in a situation where try to take her first amendment rights it's right way. she was out at loaned out shine augustae symbolic way of talking to neighbors if he left it, if he had left it up, if it was up there today, that would be okay with that why wouldn't

and i think that if he takes the offer, not you or your wife, you or clarence thomas. yeah.that's not. no, no, no. yeah well, you diagnose the awkwardness in that room. really? well, why would you put that in the offer, you sociopath? until i or clarence thomas died, and i did feel like if he took the deal that there were going to be some people so angry with me that they were going to kill me. therefore, my wife wouldn't be on the hook for the money. but she didn't take that as the reassuring statement that i hoped. oh, i won't be around for that. don't worry, it's fine. but it would. it would if he'd said it was kind of. it was both a huge relief and massively disappointing that he didn't take us. how was what was the window of time you gave him? it was we gave him 30 days. honestly i'd open it up again if it ahead of as long as. yeah, as long as he gets out before the, before the. they're doing the june decisions. yeah. i would be willing to open discussions again. so clarence, i know i keep every time i'm talking to clarence through the camera here. yeah, yeah. of course

you look at clarence thomas. wife went around the country talking about the election being stolen. having a supreme court justice make a decision on a case over the january insurrection, he should recuse himself from that case. i don't have confidence in the supreme court. there is no accountability at that level. to the point of many people on this call that he should recuse himself, he should not have been flying that flag upside down. host: jonathan in dallas. slate posting this about the events of recent days. rather we have a judicial enterprise that rolls over without anyone willing over it. rather than hurling ourselves into the alito must recuse brick wall, we must discuss the courts.not just alito or thomas and not just gun control which comes out of the same court but the connection between those two tails. a supreme court functionally immune from pressure or internal norms of behavior from, from disclosure restraints and white is dangerous. this was posted on the 22nd of may if you want to read that on

' wife promoting the coup on january 6th, and clarence thomas accepting luxury vacations from the guy's napkins. and now, there's a brand-new scandal involving supreme court justice and lifeguard watching you drown, samuel alito. right now, there are multiple cases that could be decided by the supreme court involving donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. which is why it was particularly disturbing this weekend when we found out that, in january of 2021, just days after the capitol riot, an upside-down u.s. flag flew at the home of justice samuel alito. [booing] and that's significant because at that time, the upside-down flag had become a symbol of the "stop the steal" movement. and even worse, all of alito's garden gnomes were fully q-anon. [laughter] and when it comes to january 6th cases argued before the court, alito has been highly sympathetic to the mob. that's like when your couples therapist wearing a shirt that says, "team david." there's no possible justification for a supreme court justice displaying a symbol of insurrection at his home. which is why, when t

paoletta is very much in bed with the thomases and in fact he represented clarence thomas's wife and her involvement in the stop this deal before the january 6 committee and actually also goes on vacation with mr. harlan crow in the thomases. this man has an interesting roster and participation in this hearing. but the bigger picture here is that the presence of mr. paoletta is another indication of the way in this hearing and this impeachment inquiry is part of donald trump's larger misinformation campaign, just like it was in 2020, where in addition to pressuring and withholding aid to ukraine, rudy giuliani in the trump organization as was established by mr. parnas, planted a story in the media. and now here we are four years later as they have dredged it back up and planting it back in the media using congress and using this committee and using a baseless impeachment supported by donald trump's own allies on this committee to push that information out. as members on this committee have trafficked false evidence planted by a russian operative to the fbi and is now in jail for that

it was rocked by the revelation that the wife of clarence thomas was involved in a range of efforts to trump in power. and they also ended the nearly 50 year federal right to an abortion. in response to the outpouring of criticism, justices like samuel alito became unusually outspoken . in the fall of 2022 , he told the wall street journal everyone is free to express disagreement with our decisions, and to criticize our reasoning, but saying or implying the court is becoming an illegitimate institution or questioning our integrity crosses an important line. i agree. but the court's legitimacy is not a given. it is earned. they need to show they deserve credibility. in recent years, the court has done is subzero favors the new york times reported on an effort to influence justices as detailed by the former antiabortion leader who led a concerted effort to roll back reproductive rights. in 2023, a litany of reports came out detailing how clarence thomas had for years excepted and not disclosed gifts given to him by a republican donor. the growing pile of standards surrounding the court l

in fact, he represented miss ginni thomas, clarence thomas's wife and her involvement before the january 6th committee. and actually it also goes on vacation with mr. harling. so this man has quite an interesting roster and participation in this hearing. but the bigger picture here is that mr. pallotta's presence is yet another indication of the way in which this hearing and this impeachment inquiry as part of donald trump's larger misinformation campaign, just like it was in 2020. were in addition to pressuring and withholding aid to ukraine, rudy giuliani and the trump organization as mr. parnas has established, planted this story in the media and here we are four years later as they have dredged a backup and are planting it back in the media using congress. using this committee. and using a baseless impeachment supported by donald trump's own allies on this committee to push that information out. as members on this committee have traffic in false evidence that was planted by a russian operative to the fbi and is now in jail for that. all of this is in the service of propping up the cr

peter, we've been here before with clarence thomas.s highly unlikely alito will recuse himself, and to be honest there doesn't seem to be real political will to impose ethics reform, and even if there's ethics reform, they're not losing their jobs. where does that put us going forward? >> no, i mean, they're not. they have the choice to decide how they comply with ethics, and other than, other than impeachment, which is a rather extreme remedy, there's nothing really that any other branch of the government can do about it. what's fascinating is what justice alito is talking about in today's decision about keeping the court out of what are essentially political decisions. he said the districting decisions are political decisions by political bodies and courts don't really have much of a role in it. yet, the problem obvious is the appearance of politics on the courts. the 6-3 decision today was broken down very clearly along party lines, if you want to look at it that way. the six justices appointed by republicans voted in the majority.

similar to clarence thomas. situation where you have spouses who are involved in the 2020 election. ginni thomas more clearly. now with this flag incident at samuel alito's house. you can't just say, that is my wife and i'm trying to deal with this. this is improper and undermines the legitimacy of the supreme court. most important, hurts our democracy when these cases come up because these people are clearly biased. >> michael, can you imagine the uproar there would be if justice brown jackson flu is like upside down. showing this type of disrespect to the flag. >> not only that but compound that with all the other scripting brought to the attention of the american people. republicans would be in cramps. they would be so bent over in pain from watching this unfold. and yet, they want to excuse it away. and so congresswoman, you have cnbc supreme court justices noting supreme court justice clarence thomas has been pressing him on whether or not he has addressed the 267,000- dollar rv loan. and that justice thoma

. >>> coming up, we knew the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas was at the trump rally beforek on the capital and was urging mark meadows to overturn the election results. now, the new york times is reporting that days after the january 6th attack, an american flag was flown upside down at the home of supreme court justice samuel alito. a symbol that was, at the time, being used as an indication of support for donald trump's attempt to overturn the election. those justices right now are considering whether to give donald trump immunity for the crimes he allegedly committed, including, up to, and on january 6th. that story is next. wait! no, no, no, no, no. [ gasps ] [ indistinct chatter ] [ sigh ] let's just wait them out. the volkswagen atlas with three rows of seating for seven. everyone wants a ride. [ snoring ] ok, get in. [ speaking minionese ] yippee! and see "despicable me 4" in theaters july 3rd. rated pg. sure, i'm a paid actor, and this is not a real company, but there is no way to fake how upwork can help your business. search talent all over the world with over 10,

thomas to recuse themselves from these cases.o happen, and even if it did, the justices almost certainly would politely decline, andrea. >> and ruth, as a lawyer and a journalist, you wrote this column in "the washington post" today taking apart alito's response to democrats. you wrote alito wrapped himself in an unconvincing blend of faux feminism and free speech with an alito-esque helping of victim hood. how do you really feel about that? >> kind of like that. i wrote it as a lawyer, as a journalist, and also as a spouse. andrea, you and i have both -- you more than i -- navigated the complexities not just of marriages but of washington marriages where, yes, just because you have a right to do something, doesn't mean it's wise for you to do it if it would reflect adversely on your spouse. here we have simultaneously justice alito proclaiming his wife's right to do what she wants but also hanging her out to dry in a way that i cannot recall having seen in all my years in washington journalism. he's saying the most extraordinary

ginni thomas, clarence thomas, she was posting on the facebook page, this is her.s is a flag flown at his house. >> make no mistake, this inverted or upside down flag has become a symbol of election deniers and stop the steal supporters, including some who attacked the capitol on january 6. that's a fact. it's interesting and critics say people who use the flag in this way are at odds with federal law. there's something called the flag code, federal flag code. it says basically that it calls for respect for the flag and states flatly, no disrespect shall be shown to the flag of the united states of america. the flag should never be displayed with the union down except as a signal of distress or in extreme danger of life or property. no penalties for this. no criminal enforcement. but this is a very serious issue. >> martha: on the point of ginni thomas, second supreme court justice, but this is different. >> ginni thomas had great misgivings and took actions regarding what she thought was a stolen election from donald trump. this involves a supreme court justice wh

ginni thomas, clarence thomas, she was posting on the facebook page, this is her.s is a flag flown at his house. >> make no mistake, this inverted or upside down flag has become a symbol of election deniers and stop the steal supporters, including some who attacked the capitol on january 6. that's a fact. it's interesting and critics say people who use the flag in this way are at odds with federal law. there's something called the flag code, federal flag code. it says basically that it calls for respect for the flag and states flatly, no disrespect shall be shown to the flag of the united states of america. the flag should never be dis displayed with the union down except as a signal of distress or in extreme danger of life or property. no penalties for this. no criminal enforcement. but this is a very serious issue. >> martha: on the paintoint of i thomas, second supreme court justice, but this is different. >> ginni thomas had great misgivings and took actions regarding what she thought was a stolen election from donald trump. this involves a supreme court justic

and of course, going back to the clarence thomas stories about his wife, ginny thomas' involvement in election in 2020, he hasn't recused. you could say that flying a flag upside down is, you know, perhaps less major of a role than what she was doing. >> let's look further into justice alito, because you have reported on his questions in recent cases surrounding guns, january 6th, as well as donald trump, which do not seem to align with his reputation of being the most tough on crime justice. historically, he has voted in favor of criminal defendants only 20% of the time, but some things changed. what is different about his approach to these recent cases? >> i think, as i reported in that story, one law professor called justice alito perhaps the most maga justice on the court, which if that is a correct assessment, is quite ironic considering that president trump had three appointees of his own on the court, but it is actually justice alito and clarence thomas, neither of whom he appointed, that seem to be most sympathetic to some of the arguments he makes, or perhaps those households

clarence thomas took the seat of thurgood marshall, who argued for the legal defense fund.n't get over that. tell me what your reaction is. >> we know justice thomas took the seat, but he did not fill it. what he did in disseminating disinformation about a landmark decision whose commemoration we just honored this past friday, 70 we see a supreme court justice who benefitted from brown, as did every american, and misconstruing it and suggesting that it stands for something that it does not. brown requires that we provide equal access to our democracy through education, and it's anchored in the idea of citizenship. brown said that one of the most important functions of local and state government is to provide an education for purposes of citizenship, and citizenship could not be more clearly exercised than through the voting process, and what the supreme court has done in alexander versus south carolina is completely distort that process, manipulate it, and allow partisan actors to completely capture that process in a way that directly harms black voters. it's an invitation

we also know that samuel alito and clarence thomas, they don't care. they are sitting in their positions not with any regard for the standing of the court. they are there to do their bidding and we have to judge them by their actions, it seems to me, and we should be deeply, deeply worried and skeptical. >> let's move to president biden, who gives the commencement address at morehouse college in atlanta tomorrow. faculty voted to give him an honorary doctorate, though apparently that vote was evenly split if you want to include those who abstained from the vote. the president of the college says he will cease of the graduation if there are major disruptions. you, sir, are a morehouse college graduate. who also serve on the board of trustees. what are your expectations for what president biden was a tomorrow and the potential protest, how mighty those might be? >> alex, just a full disclosure, the white house reached out and consulted with me about the speech. i have an idea of some of the things that he will reach for. is going to talk about the histor

coming up, we already knew the wife of clarence thomas was at the trump rally before the attack on the was rapidly urging mark meadows to overturn the election results. now the new york times is reporting that days after the january 6 attack, an american flag was flown upside down at the home of supreme court justice samuel alito, a symbol that was used as an indication of support for donald trump's attempt to overturn the election. those two justices are considering whether to give donald trump immunity for the crimes he allegedly committed including up to and on january 6. that story is next. is next. frizz. dryness. breakage. new dove 10-in-1 serum hair mask with peptide complex. fortifies hair bonds at a molecular level. helps reverse ten signs of damage in one minute. keep living. we'll keep repairing. ( ♪ ♪ ) start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand. ♪ i have type 2 diabetes, but i manage it well ♪ ♪ jardiance! ♪ ♪ it's a little pill with a big story to tell ♪ ♪ i take once-daily jardiance ♪ ♪ at each day's start! ♪ ♪ as time wen

justice clarence thomas is also facing calls to recuse himself from cases involving trump and the 2020 election after it was revealed that his wife, conservative activist ginni thomas, was at the 'stop the steal' rally on january 6th and pressured republican lawmakers to overturn president biden's victory . the fact is, there's no way to force either justice to recuse himself or to hold either one accountable. critics argue that has to change, especially since public trust in the high court is the lowest it has been in more than three decades. is my next just points out, on and off the bench are our supreme court is waist deep in maga. joining me now democratic congressman jamie raskin of maryland, ranking member of the house oversight committee, former lead house impeachment manager in donald trump's second impeachment trial and author of "unthinkable, trauma, truth, and the trials of american democracy." whisman, thank you for coming to the saturday show. your reaction to this story and samuel alito's response . >> well, justice samuel alito's response makes it clear he understands i

clarence thomas is the other. i kind of wonder whether you think the two embolden each other and whether -- what of john roberts? is there any hope that the supreme court and the leader of the supreme court decides to do anything about this? >> samuel alito and clarence thomas and john roberts and all the rest of them are emboldened by the complete feckless job democrats in congress have done to rein them in. all right? they are emboldened not by each other but by dick durbin. the fact that we are still in 2024 and we do not have an ethics bill -- not the ridiculousness of the supreme court saying it would soft police when clearly they cannot police themselves. the fact we do not have a congressional ethics bill with real teeth and real penalties for these people when they are revealed to be as corrupt as we all know them to be is a travesty. as long as -- look, you're never going to get anything with the republicans. mike johnson, matt gaetz, and although trump cosplayers. they are going to do their own thing. th

house minority leader hakeem jeffries said this fits a pattern samuel alito and clarence thomas are totally out of control these individuals continue to detonate the credibility of the united states supreme court. the supreme court has chosen to conduct itself as if. the judiciary is above the law cnn's joan biskupic joins me now. >> joan, the justice, justice alito. obviously you just heard that from hakeem jeffries and others saying you've got to recuse yourself on these january 6 related cases. >> do you think he will? >> there are no signs of that, dana, it's good to see you and the calls for recusal have been increasing but as i say, justice alito has given no indication that he thinks there's any reason for him to disqualify himself. i was just up at the supreme court as all nine justices were issuing opinions from the bench, two of them by justice alito. it was really business it says usual. and as you know, we're about to get our most closely watched cases, including two that involve former president trump and activities that traced to january 6. >> the riot at the capitol now, here

thomas said the quiet part out loud.ther right it may be very much at stake. when you start to see some profusion of rights, where does it and if people don't stand up? demographically, the last numbers i saw, 80 percent of the aanhpi community is in favor of freedom and choice. and, again, because it's a simple point which i often make, for many people, one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree that government should not be telling her what to do. she will make that decision based on her ability to actually exercise good judgment. and can you imagine these legislators that are supposing their judgment is better than the ability of that individual woman to know what is best interest? it is profound. profound when you think about it layers of what is involved here. jimmy: and another very important issue is guns in our country. vp harris: yes. jimmy: president biden tapped you to oversee the first ever white house than violence prevention task force. what is the administration doing to addre

justice clarence thomas, samuel alito might decide to call it quits and be replaced by a younger justice in their 40s or 50s who could conceivably serve for another 30 or 40 years. cementing that 6-3 conservative majority on the court. if democrats are able to win the presidency and hold the senate, i think there would be tremendous pressure on justice sonia sotomayor to step down. but there would also be a lot of interest, of course, if either justice thomas or justice alito left the court on a democratic senate as well. that would be an opportunity for democrats to transform the court and try and claw back a little bit of the territory that they've lost over the last couple decades. >> and you alluded to these races briefly that's montana and ohio. talk about those because you're calling those tossups. >> these are the entire story when it comes to control of the majority. john tester. sherrod brown. those two guys win, then democrats have a shot at keeping the senate. if they lose there is no path. they're both running in states that trump carried in it 2020. and will carry again in 2

he didn't do it that is a symbol of the insurrection from january's six you have clarence thomas, his wife, texting mark meadows about overturning election results. i mean, come i mean, isn't there a little hypocrisy going on? there isn't there? >> i mean it reminds me of bob menendez blame and his wife for what's going on in his trial in new jersey. >> i just don't he's on trial and he's a digraph. so he's on trial. i mean, biden facing charges. are we all going to our members of congress is going to start showing up at these trials and making speeches about, i mean, just but the the system work what it does as we should give me this is very concerning. >> i check and i are both practitioners of electoral politics. and though we may differ, i've known chuck a long time we loved this because you think about the art in the process of electing good people to create policies and vote for policies that will hopefully move the country and the new direction. and sometimes you're going to have a sephora as disagreement on those sorts of things, but you want to maintain that integrity in term

thomas, i mean, you think of clarence thomas, his wife, ginni thomas, and her efforts and support ofeople around january 6? yes. >> first of all, that picture makes me nauseous. generally. generally the upside-down flag has serious meeting both before and after january 6, and it's literally makes me nauseous to see it on the lawn of a supreme court justice is deeply, deeply troubling. and the point is that she knows better. he's been adjusted for 18 years. she knows better than to do that. so does ginni thomas. they all know better. so to say i'm a little alito know better than to abide this so that's troubling. but i think the problem here is people are going to hell. >> why is everything trump's fault? but you have to trace this to trump because that flag was flying for trump because trump said that the election was stolen. trump has cheapens so many of our institutions, including the meaning of democracy. he's made it cheap he's cheapens the importance of our legislative body and congress that's why people are acting like this in congress, because it's cheap now it doesn't have th

thomas, his wife, ginni. the bottom line is two of the nine justices on the american supreme court have spouses who have made very clear unambiguous political statements and actions and words. and those justices are sitting on the bench. and as we speak weighing in on cases that will determine the presidential election. and trump's fate. jessica schneider is out front live outside the supreme court and jessica this is really an incredible moment, and this is a court that find itself embroiled filled deeper and deeper and controversy yeah. >> i mean, you got it, aaron, there are multiple ethics questions facing this court. >> all the public approval rating is just plummeting. you heard from democratic senator dick durbin calling on justice alito to recuse himself from any 2020 related case. but all signs right now or that justice alito nor justice thomas have any plans on accusing all while there's this mountain growing questions and criticism have you enjoyed your husband bag on the courts so far well, it's b