introducing greg duncan, the university of california irvine he has a long research career. he previously spent 25 years that diversity of michigan and was director claimed by harry halter, senior fellow garrett georgetown. also in the black these department, her research focuses on shaping black communities, families. look at policies and structural for income and other factors across generations. fellow of the american economics. this conversation will be moderated as the visiting fellow here at brookings and economics programs. we join after spending 36 years as a staff writer at the washington post covering social policy shared pulitzer prize for her coverage as 9/11. thank you. >> thank you for coming. a bit of an introduction for the committee and the recommendations in 2021 congress passed national academies to put together a consensus panel to come up with ideas for programs and policies for which evidence indicated that a chance of reducing intergenerational poverty. some of you may know the report in 2019, roadmap child poverty was all about short term policy. what