and so i think that one of what of melissa carney's points the book is that this is you know, there mayut and maybe. you know, jobs are necessary but not sufficient that there also needs to a cultural piece to that. yes maybe these men do need jobs that make them appealing. but there also has to be a culture that champions marriage and promotes it and valorize is the two parent family for kids and more and more we're sort of drifting from that so that now even if you do give people high paying jobs and money and so forth, but the community has just sort of wrecked and marriage has not been a part of the culture for so long that, you know, that money alone isn't going mitigate the issue not only■7 that i'm sorry that's coming thank you everyone you should read this book. absolutely riveting. you'll read it quickly because you won't be able to put down rob. so you have a ph.d. in psychology from cambridge you know, one would expect you would maybe become a practicing psychol just or seek an academic career but when you project five or ten years in the future what do you want to be doing?

and so i think that one of what of melissa carney's points the book is that this is you know, there mayut and maybe. you know, jobs are necessary but not sufficient that there also needs to a cultural piece to that. yes maybe these men do need jobs that make them appealing. but there also has to be a culture that champions marriage and promotes it and valorize is the two parent family for kids and more and more we're sort of drifting from that so that now even if you do give people high paying jobs and money and so forth, but the community has just sort of wrecked and marriage has not been a part of the culture for so long that, you know, that money alone isn't going mitigate the issue not only that i'm sorry that's coming thank you everyone you should read this book. absotely riveting. you'll read it quickly because you won't be able to put down rob. so you have a ph.d. in psychology from cambridge you know, one would expect you would ybe become a practicing psychol just or seek an academic career but when you project five or ten years in the future what do you want to be doing? hmm. w

and so i think that one of what of melissa carney's points the book is that this is you know, there maymic piece here but and maybe. you know, jobs are necessary but not sufficient that there also needs to a cultural piece to that. yes maybe these men do need jobs that make them appealing. but there also has to be a culture that champions marriage and promotes it and valorize is the two parent family for kids and more and more we're sort of drifting from that so that now even if you do give people high paying jobs and money and so forth, but the community has just sort of wrecked and marriage has not been a part of the culture for so long that, you know, that money alone isn't going mitigate the issue not only that i'm sorry that's thank you everyone you should read this book. absolutely riveting. you'll read it quickly because you won't be able to put down rob. so you have a ph.d. in psychology from cambridge you know, one would expect you would maybe become a practicing psychol just or seek an academic career but when you project five or ten years in the future what do you want to be

and so i think that one of what of melissa carney's points the book is that this is you know, there mayre but and maybe. you know, jobs are necessary but not sufficient that there also needs to a cultural piece to that. yes maybe these men do need jobs that make them appealing. but there also has to be a culture that champions marriage and promotes it and valorize is the two parent family for kids and more and more we're sort of drifting from that so that now even if you do give people high paying jobs and money and so forth, but the community has just sort of wrecked and marriage has not been a part of the culture for so long that, you know, that money alone isn't going mitigate the issue not only that i'm sorry that's ming thank you everyone you should read this book. absolutely riveting. you'll read it quickly because you won't be abl you have a ph.n psychology from cambridge you know, one would expect you would maybe become a practicing psychol just or seek an academic career but when you project five future what do you want to be doing? hmm. well so for lot of people, you kn, psych

i keep quoting melissa carney at brookings.smaller families among higher income people could a quantity quality tradeoff. i hate that phrase not just because it implies that my wife and i chose the quantity half of that because we have six children. but but be■?use i think it's false. but isabel sawhill, excellent holar at brookings, she puts it this way with fewer children support, parents and society can both invest more in each child. and that's supposed to help children. i don't think it does. i think that the rise in childhood anxiety that is a sister problem of the falling birthrates. the journal pediatrics, a lot of saw they said that a primary of the rise in mental disorders in young children is the loss of freedom to play without being supervised by parents. that loss of freedom, high quality, high intensive has bad outcomes not just for parents, but for kids. one instance of that is how youth gets replaced by travel sp. the idea that sport, baseball is good in and of itself, that fors gets replaced by relentless desir

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i keep quoting melissa carney at brookings. she said smaller families among higher income people could a quantity quality tradeoff. i hate that phrase not just because it implies that my wife and i chose the quantity half of that because we have six children. but but because i think it's false. but isabel sawhill, excellent scholar at brookings, she puts it this way with fewer children support, parents and society can both invest more in each child. and that's supposed to help children. i don't think it does. i think that the rise in childhood anxiety that is a sister problem of the falling birthrates. the journal pediatrics, a lot of you saw they said that a primary of the rise in mental disorders in young children is the loss of freedom to play without being supervised by parents. that loss of freedom, high quality, high intensive has bad outcomes not just for parents, but for kids. one instance of that is how youth gets replaced by travel sports. the idea that sport, baseball is good in and of itself, that sports is for buil

i keep quoting melissa carney at brookings.aid smaller families among higher income people could a quantity quality tradeoff. i hate that phrase not just because it implies that my wife and i chose the quantity half of that because we have six children. but but because i think it's false. but isabel sawhill, excellent scholar atr? brookings, she puts it this way with fewer children support, parents and society can more in each child. and that's supposed to help children. i don't think it does. i think that the rise in childhood anxiety that is a sister problem of the falling birthrates. the journal pediatrics, a lot of you saw they said that a primary of the rise in mental disorders in young children is the loss of freedom to play without being supervised by parents. that loss of freedom, high quality, high intensive has bad outcomes not just for parents, but for kids. one instance of that is how youth gets replaced by travel sports. the idea that sport, baseball is good in and of itself, that sports is for building virtues get

carney, thank you for being here. why do you think this is happening my other philippine and i refer to what we see is shifting priorities and you mentioned a whole bunch of factors that don't seem to explain the decline. and so the way we reconcile the evidence from both the us that's and other high-income countries is that fundamentally young adults today are not choosing to make marriage and having kids the centerpiece of their adult life to the same extent that they did before the conflict between career and leisure goals and the time and expense of having kids is coming into conflict and people are making king different choices some will hear this and they'll say, well, this is great news. this is less taxing for the planet. you're well-versed in a book that came out like two decades ago and said we were headed for catastrophe is it good news or is it bad news? >> i think this is fundamentally bad news. so let me say most people see it is good news because they think it's good for the planet. now, setting aside t