josh naftalis from pallas partners joins us now. a lot of key questions here.hing the jury will grapple with, and i wonder to what extent the defense or prosecution answers this, why did hwang do all this, what was the motivation? did we get an answer? josh: the government tried to answer the question, the key question the government want to know. greed and hubris. he wanted to enhance his reputation, make a lot of money. the defense's comeback will be that he didn't make any money. it all collapsed and he made no money. the motive will be the key question for the jury to answer. they don't have to answer that not everyone wants to figure out why did they do it? scarlet: trying to understand why he did do it, perhaps they will come up with a rationale to find him guilty or not. in terms of closing arguments underway right now, what are the key themes that you'll be listening to from the government versus the defense? josh: i read some of the snippets about how the government is closing, and they are trying to distill a very complicated set of facts into a coher