our center in gdańsk is located on the former site of the gdańsk shipyard, where lech wałęsa createdmaidan is such an important place for europeans. for me, it is very important that europeans come to lviv and see that exhibition here in the context of the city. this experience of ours in gdańsk is a very powerful experience. and we know that today lviv is ukraine's window to the world, the world to ukraine. therefore, my dream is that the political elites, who travel through lviv to kyiv, stay in lviv and realize that we are protecting right now. there is also the idea of ​​this exhibition, a very specific thing that we want to do. now young people in various european countries admire him. they say that it was a very good regime in relation to. it was a good life, people got housing, had money for treatment and so on, but at the same time they don't remember what happened with democracy, actually in the soviet union, where there was communism. they do not talk about what happened to human dignity, about camps, about persecution and so on. komunizm powrocie, niech ten zwiszka radziec

lech walesa is very interesting, the worker made a revolution, because he not only, as a worker, saidu are a communist party, as if it were a workers' party, you do not represent me, but he did not say that another workers' party should be created, he said: monopolies - this is bad, as a worker i will live well only in a democratic society. where parties will represent different people, not a monopoly, but today we return to the same thing, some say monopoly is good, nationalism is good, war is well and you will be well. and others say that democracy, only democracy, is difficult, it is a dialogue, a compromise, and nobody likes that. times of youtube, tiktok, everyone loves the simple truth. well, what you said is a big manipulation. we are witnesses of huge... history, and 80% we teach people to live consciously today, not to be manipulated, to create communities of good people at every level, local, national, global. and this war is not only here, this war has been political for a long time in other countries, including democratic ones. i i also partially live in germany, in berlin

lech wałęsa is very interesting, the worker made a revolution, because he not only said, as a worker,munist, supposedly workers' party, do not represent me, but he did not say that it is necessary to create another the workers' party, he said, monopolies are bad, i as a worker will live well only in a democratic society, and 80% of people are taught to live consciously today, not to be manipulated, to create communities at every level, local, national, global good people this war is not only here, this war has been political for a long time in other countries, also democratic ones. i also partially live in germany, in berlin, a pro-putin alternative for germany. uses these new technologies together with china, which is a very dangerous rival, in fact, to create authoritarianism. this authoritarianism is also, for example, anti-emancipatory against women, according to a very traditional model, right? is homophobic, racist, uses everything to sow hatred against people. you are in ukraine, you talk to ukrainian politicians, you would now appreciate what is happening with ukrainian democr

poland was a symbol of democracy then, it had lech walesa, support of the pope, but also had a lot ofthy from very smart politicians, mazowiecki, geremyk, wise people, writers, intellectuals, cinema, culture, so it's not only politics, but i'm an optimist, one is that the european union can't do it too long to wait, because poland has been fully democratic for 35 years. i will tell you honestly, only joining the eu gave such strength, as well as a sense of security for investors. before that, poland was very democratic, but only accession gave poland such a civilizational jump. and it's not because the money came, that's not what it's about. however, it is ukrainian society that determines this standard, it is not only a matter of the european union, that is, for your good. this is important, because then we have semi-democracies that can be, as we see in hungary today, used by authoritarian regimes and be countries that spoil the eu. why did we poles fight for an independent court, because it was about us. it seems to me that this is a ukrainian discussion, the quality of ukrainian d

our center in gdańsk is located on the former site of the gdańsk shipyard, where lech wałęsa createdmany many such negative symbols. we have few cemeteries after a large number of soldiers, we have democratic places. maidan is such an important place for europeans. for me, it is very important that europeans come to lviv and see the exhibition here in the context of the city. they say it was a very good regime, which is good it used to be that people got housing, had money for treatment and so on, but at the same time they do not remember what happened to democracy, actually in the soviet union, where there was communism. they do not talk about what happened to human dignity, about camps, about persecution and so on. poles, ukrainians, have a complicated history, but we are looking for something that is close, let us be brothers and sisters, cooperation in general, but this is also very important, civic consciousness, which is like a cake with several floors, you, i am from lviv, i am from zdansk , a ukrainian, a pole, but we are also europeans, we are also responsible for the world.

walesa was then as president of that did happen years later. so as you also very well point out and i have to underscore this, one of your characteristics also time, you know every negotiation is going to be varied, not going to be always the and it's not always going to end with the complete oh, it's done. move on to the next. so let me just go fast forward to ukraine. it's one i'd like to comment on because i think the of your book are so apt to what's happening at present here force does matter already stew mentioned the importance of the military assistance but i would just put it succinctly because this is how ukrainians themselves have articulated it. how can negotiate if we're not only from some kind of of strength, some position strength here and that's as simple. it is armistice is one of the options. but i would say at least as i see it at this particular time, i think that the ukrainians want to give it a go as much as they want their additional assistance. this time they've been very creative. they're not to negotiate per say at thi