benjamin nash benjamin, in a previous - this election was stolen.you interacted with the white house you interacted with the maduro government, what insights can you give us into his calculus in potentially subverting the democratic process? he potentially subverting the democratic process? he made a miscalculation, _ democratic process? he made a miscalculation, the _ democratic process? he made a miscalculation, the maduro - democratic process? he made a i miscalculation, the maduro regime has sought legitimacy internationally, want to be treated normally— internationally, want to be treated normally and access to the us and european — normally and access to the us and european markets, and once to have a normal _ european markets, and once to have a normal oil— european markets, and once to have a normal oil sector which before this conflict _ normal oil sector which before this conflict had been the main driver of its economy, and it has the capacity to fill— its economy, and it has the capacity to fill the _ its economy, and it has the capacity

among them, ivan benjamin, the mayor of madison. but a lot of the folks live in wisconsin, a journalist from milwaukee. there's a great story. i'll very briefly share it. it's one of my favorites. and we want to share the whole tonight. but there's a the state architect at the time named carol yassky. he wasn't a big supporter, but he had this incredible moment where kennedy's in the same hotel when the state architects are having their big dinner. and carol yassky was kind of the emcee for the night. and he here is by way of the mayor i've been in that kennedy's in the hotel chrissy a quick hello to the architects and he says well sure bring them on down here. so here comes jfk very regal jackie's there and he's about to introduce john f kennedy and he goes, ladies and gentlemen, i'm very excited to introduce you to this exciting guest tonight. we have with us robert kennedy. and the quote is of course, that he let him off the hook so easily he had three or four great jokes of how people him with his dad, his on and on. but that's