joining me now is robert p.d founder of the public religion research institute and author of the hidden roots of white supremacy, and kellen robinson, president of the human rights campaign and former executive director of the planned parenthood action fund. i'm having you represent both organizations in some ways and also just talk about this from an activist point of view and a civil rights point of view, the threats to women. abortion was not mentioned at the rnc convention, but it's mentioned here, and it is in jeopardy. women are in jeopardy. >> they wanted us to forget they had taken credit for overturning roe v. wade. the scary thing is when you look at so much of project 2025, they're using certain communities as scapegoats as ways to resign all of us. doesn't that sound a lot like the fugitive slave act. doesn't it sound a lot like what they intend to do for trans people trying to get health care. what we have understand is all of this is connected. it's a scary plan, a dangerous one. when you look at s