this is a space history podcast, we continue the conversation with konstantin bronzit, anton shkablerovear of cross -flights, elon musk’s ships started flying, here are the dragons, yeah, uh, kmks, now on each one. in the american ship there is one russian cosmonaut on our ship , one american astronaut said that the guys who launched from florida said that they adopted this tradition, the white sun is looking empty, konstantin, what is happening, why didn’t you put this tradition in your film , the first one, and i didn’t know anything about it, most likely, if i were the hero in your film, and what my destiny would be in this film, a good destiny, a happy destiny, yes, yes, because a specific person. after all, this is an abstraction, colleagues, don’t forget, these are abstract figures, they don’t have names, this is, uh, in a sense, mm, you know, this is such a birth trauma of animation, we are forced to reach the viewer through abstraction, a certain convention, and there is already a question for the viewer, is he able, does he know how to immerse himself in this convention, becaus