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he was dpp _ strategy so far? i think he has got it right. he was dpp in _ strategy so far?i think he has got it right. he was dpp in 2011 whenl it right. he was dpp in 2011 when there were riots following the shooting of mark duggan. the prosecutor will respond under his direction was pretty hard—core, pretty serious and pretty relentless. there was no surprise he would adopt a similar approach here. he clearly and correctly believes that securing public peace and order is the first priority and first duty of any government and he has said that several times. 0ne of any government and he has said that several times. one of the big issuesis that several times. one of the big issues is the extent to which public confidence to protect the community has been called into question and thatis has been called into question and that is intolerable. we had a scene in middlesbrough on saturday night where a road block was manned by stopping cars to check the people driving who were white and english. there is an intolerable assumption and the state cannot tolerate that. the via keir s
he was dpp _ strategy so far? i think he has got it right. he was dpp in _ strategy so far?i think he has got it right. he was dpp in 2011 whenl it right. he was dpp in 2011 when there were riots following the shooting of mark duggan. the prosecutor will respond under his direction was pretty hard—core, pretty serious and pretty relentless. there was no surprise he would adopt a similar approach here. he clearly and correctly believes that securing public peace and order is the first priority...
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he can'tjust behave like he's the dpp. he's got to lead the country.e has had private meetings in liverpool where there has actually been best practice integration, where police kept differing groups apart and where people have reached across the divide. there's a famous sign on twitter, nans against nazis, which is doing the rounds from one of the protests that has been seen at the weekend in one of the cities. so there are places where people are getting this sorted out. the prime minister's job is to say, "dear uk, there are places where we're getting this right — "i've been there. "there are places where we're getting this wrong — "i'm doing that." but he can't be seen to be just being the guy who was the dpp and has now moved offices. he's got to lead the country now. and this is a severe test. honeymoon — over. well, yeah, i can see two big risks here, where keir starmer�*s strengths can become weaknesses. one is that thing about his background as the director of public prosecutions. if you sell yourself as, like, mr law and order and then law an
he can'tjust behave like he's the dpp. he's got to lead the country.e has had private meetings in liverpool where there has actually been best practice integration, where police kept differing groups apart and where people have reached across the divide. there's a famous sign on twitter, nans against nazis, which is doing the rounds from one of the protests that has been seen at the weekend in one of the cities. so there are places where people are getting this sorted out. the prime minister's...
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. >> dpp he dpp he was prosecuting more journalists than they were in iran. >> but he was he was he was. >> west lindsey authoritarian. okay, but let me just finish my point. he was in charge in 2011 when this last happened. so you get the sense with him that if something goes down, he knows who to call. he knows what buttons to press to make things happen.the buttons to press to make things happen. the problem is, is that being prime minister is not just about that. it's also about using rhetoric that pulls the country back together. and there is a feeling about keir starmer that, first of all, by saying it's a far right thing. although i think of course much of it is. but by saying that he may actually have thrown a little fuel on the fire, but also there is a feeling that he comes from the very class which has over several decades reduced respect for the police, undermine the authority of the state and encourage this kind of disorder, because i can't get that image out of my head, of him kneeling for the black lives matter. and this is really important because black lives matter was
. >> dpp he dpp he was prosecuting more journalists than they were in iran. >> but he was he was he was. >> west lindsey authoritarian. okay, but let me just finish my point. he was in charge in 2011 when this last happened. so you get the sense with him that if something goes down, he knows who to call. he knows what buttons to press to make things happen.the buttons to press to make things happen. the problem is, is that being prime minister is not just about that. it's also...
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. >> dpp he dpp he was prosecuting more journalists than they were in iran. >> but he was he was he wasest lindsey authoritarian. okay, but let me just finish my point. he was in charge in 2011 when this last happened. so you get the sense with him that if something goes down, he knows who to call. he knows what buttons to press to make things happen.the buttons to press to make things happen. the problem is, is that being prime minister is not just about that. it's also about using rhetoric that pulls the country back together. and there is a feeling about keir starmer that, first of all, by saying it's a far right thing. although i think of course much of it is. but by saying that he may actually have thrown a little fuel on the fire, but also there is a feeling that he comes from the very class which has over several decades reduced respect for the police, undermine the authority of the state and encourage this kind of disorder, because i can't get that image out of my head, of him kneeling for the black lives matter. and this is really important because black lives matter was an org
. >> dpp he dpp he was prosecuting more journalists than they were in iran. >> but he was he was he wasest lindsey authoritarian. okay, but let me just finish my point. he was in charge in 2011 when this last happened. so you get the sense with him that if something goes down, he knows who to call. he knows what buttons to press to make things happen.the buttons to press to make things happen. the problem is, is that being prime minister is not just about that. it's also about using...
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the former dpp he's done okay so far has he.this i'd have thought he has. >> and i think we have to be careful by, by suggesting that what that what didn't happen last night is to do is to do with that. the idea that they could have hit 100 places seems to me overly ambitious, and a bit of a sort of feint attack, frankly. so until the weekend comes, we don't know whether we're actually on the home straight yet. but yes, as far as what keir starmer said he would do, he's done. he's done the stuff he can do. yeah, he's he's putting people in jail. he's putting people in jail. he's putting them in jail quickly. that's how he how he started out. and that should be the first stage. the urgency of this is to stop people rioting. that's the best way to do it. >> but the political challenge, which you might find harder for him is the causes. how do you deal with why this ? deal with why this? >> i'm a bit worried about a pension effect, but only a few days ago the general cry was the far right are on the march they're coming to, you kno
the former dpp he's done okay so far has he.this i'd have thought he has. >> and i think we have to be careful by, by suggesting that what that what didn't happen last night is to do is to do with that. the idea that they could have hit 100 places seems to me overly ambitious, and a bit of a sort of feint attack, frankly. so until the weekend comes, we don't know whether we're actually on the home straight yet. but yes, as far as what keir starmer said he would do, he's done. he's done...
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the former dpp he's done okay so far has he.this i'd have thought he has. >> and i think we have to be careful by, by suggesting that what that what didn't happen last night is to do is to do with that. the idea that they could have hit 100 places seems to me overly ambitious, and a bit of a sort of feint attack, frankly. so until the weekend comes, we don't know whether we're actually on the home straight yet. but yes, as far as what keir starmer said he would do, he's done. he's done the stuff he can do. yeah, he's he's putting people in jail. he's putting people in jail. he's putting them in jail quickly. that's how he how he started out. and that should be the first stage. the urgency of this is to stop people rioting. that's the best way to do it. >> but the political challenge, which you might find harder for him is the causes. how do you deal with why this ? deal with why this? >> i'm a bit worried about a pension effect, but only a few days ago the general cry was the far right are on the march they're coming to, you kno
the former dpp he's done okay so far has he.this i'd have thought he has. >> and i think we have to be careful by, by suggesting that what that what didn't happen last night is to do is to do with that. the idea that they could have hit 100 places seems to me overly ambitious, and a bit of a sort of feint attack, frankly. so until the weekend comes, we don't know whether we're actually on the home straight yet. but yes, as far as what keir starmer said he would do, he's done. he's done...
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, former dpp was quite well suited to this particular task .l particular task. but it's all about bandwidth. can they now actually address the underlying problems? the other thing , i'm problems? the other thing, i'm afraid, is just the economy. it's the economy, stupid. as everyone always says. you know, people, people riot and people get unhappy, like in 2011 when they feel poor, when they not only look at other people coming in and they perceive them rightly or wrongly, taking up their houses, taking up, you know, nhs waiting lists. but it's when they themselves constantly feel like they're just not getting any better. life is tough. life is not life. life is tough. life is not life. life is tough. life is not life. life is getting worse . so the life is getting worse. so the government's main priority really, as well as addressing immigration, should be growing the for pie everyone. so go. but again , much, much harder. you again, much, much harder. you know, much easier said than done . know, much easier said than done. >> it's, it's inter
, former dpp was quite well suited to this particular task .l particular task. but it's all about bandwidth. can they now actually address the underlying problems? the other thing , i'm problems? the other thing, i'm afraid, is just the economy. it's the economy, stupid. as everyone always says. you know, people, people riot and people get unhappy, like in 2011 when they feel poor, when they not only look at other people coming in and they perceive them rightly or wrongly, taking up their...
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he was the chief prosecutor in england, the dpp, back in 2011, the last time there were very widespreadn trouble in the streets of england. and he found that the strategy then was to very quickly get people into court and charged and sentenced for that. he has been quoted as saying that he felt that that was actually instrumental in getting the riots tend to end, so he is very much hoping that that will have an effect now and he will hope that those sentences that we saw today, quite stiff sentences of up today, quite stiff sentences of up to three years in jail, within just days of the events happening will have an impact and an impact on those reports we have been hearing is potential further unrest today. we will have to wait and see whether thatis we will have to wait and see whether that is actually worked, whether there will be any diminution of those riots and any trouble. and those riots and any trouble. and what sort of _ those riots and any trouble. and what sort of reaction has there been to all this from opposition politicians? it to all this from opposition politicians?— to
he was the chief prosecutor in england, the dpp, back in 2011, the last time there were very widespreadn trouble in the streets of england. and he found that the strategy then was to very quickly get people into court and charged and sentenced for that. he has been quoted as saying that he felt that that was actually instrumental in getting the riots tend to end, so he is very much hoping that that will have an effect now and he will hope that those sentences that we saw today, quite stiff...
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quickly and i was part of that myself in — very quickly and i was part of that myself in 2011 when i was dpp takes to— am determined we will do whatever it takes to bring these folks do justice — takes to bring these folks do justice as quickly as possible. do ou justice as quickly as possible. do you believe everyone that is taking part in _ you believe everyone that is taking part in these — you believe everyone that is taking part in these as _ you believe everyone that is taking part in these as part— you believe everyone that is taking part in these as part of— you believe everyone that is taking part in these as part of the - you believe everyone that is taking part in these as part of the far- part in these as part of the far right? — part in these as part of the far right? do— part in these as part of the far right? doany— part in these as part of the far right? do any of— part in these as part of the far right? do any of the _ part in these as part of the far right? do any of the scenes i part in these as part of the fari right? do any of the scenes we part in these as part of the f
quickly and i was part of that myself in — very quickly and i was part of that myself in 2011 when i was dpp takes to— am determined we will do whatever it takes to bring these folks do justice — takes to bring these folks do justice as quickly as possible. do ou justice as quickly as possible. do you believe everyone that is taking part in _ you believe everyone that is taking part in these — you believe everyone that is taking part in these as _ you believe everyone that is taking...
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and as the dpp during the last set of real civil unrest, he knows what he's talking about.on't mean that in an undermining way. he's he's well positioned to do it, but he needs to terminate this two tier label with extreme prejudice because it is sticking. >> should we just listen then you mentioned, keir starmer, should we just have a listen to some of the conversations that he's been having? this is him off the back of a cobra meeting last night. >> i made it very clear on a number of occasions that those involved will feel the full force of the law , so we force of the law, so we coordinated. we went through some of the numbers. over 400 people now have been arrested, 100 have been charged, some in relation to online activity and a number of them are already in court. and i'm now expecting substantive sentencing before the end of this week. >> well, after the break, i will get into the way that some of these people are being policed, these people are being policed, the criminal justice system, whether or not it's the right process. but before i get into that bit, let me
and as the dpp during the last set of real civil unrest, he knows what he's talking about.on't mean that in an undermining way. he's he's well positioned to do it, but he needs to terminate this two tier label with extreme prejudice because it is sticking. >> should we just listen then you mentioned, keir starmer, should we just have a listen to some of the conversations that he's been having? this is him off the back of a cobra meeting last night. >> i made it very clear on a...
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i think what's happened here is and incidentally, keir starmer was the dpp in 2011 and i wish he'd actedobustly then. but that's water under. look what's happening here is anything that detracts from what the government is doing, i think is actually not actually doing the country any good. we have got a grip on this. i think i by acting very, very robustly. and when you see, you know , four when you see, you know, four people on a traffic island representing the but and the other interesting thing is, if i may say, the story that you broke a couple of hours ago about ricky jones , who is about ricky jones, who is fortunately, he's now had the labour whip removed from him , labour whip removed from him, talking about slitting throats, talking about slitting throats, talking about slitting throats, talking about palestine, surrounded by people, clapping and cheering. you just realise that this actually does need a direction from the national leadership as well as from the local well, and that's why i think actually parliament would have been useful to be recalled. >> but going back to goin
i think what's happened here is and incidentally, keir starmer was the dpp in 2011 and i wish he'd actedobustly then. but that's water under. look what's happening here is anything that detracts from what the government is doing, i think is actually not actually doing the country any good. we have got a grip on this. i think i by acting very, very robustly. and when you see, you know , four when you see, you know, four people on a traffic island representing the but and the other interesting...
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i think what's happened here is and incidentally, keir starmer was the dpp in 2011 and i wish he'd actedobustly then. but that's water under. look what's happening here is anything that detracts from what the government is doing, i think is actually not actually doing the country any good. we have got a grip on this. i think i by acting very, very robustly. and when you see, you know , four when you see, you know, four people on a traffic island representing the but and the other interesting thing is, if i may say, the story that you broke a couple of hours ago about ricky jones , who is about ricky jones, who is fortunately, he's now had the labour whip removed from him , labour whip removed from him, talking about slitting throats, talking about slitting throats, talking about slitting throats, talking about palestine, surrounded by people, clapping and cheering. you just realise that this actually does need a direction from the national leadership as well as from the local well, and that's why i think actually parliament would have been useful to be recalled. >> but going back to goin
i think what's happened here is and incidentally, keir starmer was the dpp in 2011 and i wish he'd actedobustly then. but that's water under. look what's happening here is anything that detracts from what the government is doing, i think is actually not actually doing the country any good. we have got a grip on this. i think i by acting very, very robustly. and when you see, you know , four when you see, you know, four people on a traffic island representing the but and the other interesting...
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. >> you've got this, this former dpp , a director of public dpp, a director of public prosecutions whorosecutions in the 2011 riots in sir keir starmer. and he is showing he knows how to pull the levers of the criminal justice system. and has he gone too far? is it right to name and shame people, people before they've been through the court system? because employers might see those faces online and go , well, those faces online and go, well, you know, i'm not sure what this guy, even though he may have been innocently caught up in the trouble. and it's interesting. >> we just had pictures there from southport, where of course, king charles has been, you know, to mark that tragic triple killing and we had a message in from a viewer called june, june was saying the king is doing an amazing thing by going to soothe the community. >> but can the prime minister now listen to the communities around britain to try and understand the frustrations that in some part helped to drive the frustration behind these riots? >> chris, you and i talk about this very often on this show. do you think that
. >> you've got this, this former dpp , a director of public dpp, a director of public prosecutions whorosecutions in the 2011 riots in sir keir starmer. and he is showing he knows how to pull the levers of the criminal justice system. and has he gone too far? is it right to name and shame people, people before they've been through the court system? because employers might see those faces online and go , well, those faces online and go, well, you know, i'm not sure what this guy, even...
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rioters face terror charges, warns the dpp. so, yeah. police braced for more violence today with 6000 specialist officers on standby, good to see them on standby. they haven't been on standby for ten months now, but now they've got 6000 people on standby. so that's. that's good, >> and, that was a joke about the palestinian. >> it was. i wa come on, i get >> it was. iwa come on, i get it.— >> it was. i wa come on, i get it. ._ >> it was. i wa come on, i get it. i think it was a joke. >> i think he meant it. yeah yeah, that's pretty angry. >> so yeah, there's comment. >> so yeah, there's comment. >> yeah. >> yeah. so >> yeah. so there's >> yeah. so there's talk >> yeah. so there's talk of. yeah as i say. and people sentenced to ten years hard labour whereas the rest of us just get five years hard labour. >> hey hey that's two jokes in the first minute. i like that you're a labour voter, but you recognise they're only going to get five years. >> i'd be amazed if they make it to the end of the month. >> well we'll see. i mean, tories manage
rioters face terror charges, warns the dpp. so, yeah. police braced for more violence today with 6000 specialist officers on standby, good to see them on standby. they haven't been on standby for ten months now, but now they've got 6000 people on standby. so that's. that's good, >> and, that was a joke about the palestinian. >> it was. i wa come on, i get >> it was. iwa come on, i get it.— >> it was. i wa come on, i get it. ._ >> it was. i wa come on, i get it. i...
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rioters faced terror charges, warned the dpp, so police are braced for more violence.specialist officers are on standby , there officers are on standby, there are reports that the country could face riots up and down it, a variety of different locations tomorrow, with immigration centres being targeted and then counter protesters there are at least 30 locations that have been reported. and there are calls now for people who engage in that disorder to face terror charges, we will return to that. all right . let's go to the all right. let's go to the guardian. now. lawyers fear for safety amid threats from the far right. so. so this is another one. so immigration lawyers have been warned to take extra security measures to stay away from work amid far right threats to target their firms. and there is also the former head of the counter—terror police, neil basu. he's been described by people as, you know, woke police officer. he described himself as woke, etc. he's the one that keir starmer wanted in charge of this new border command, apparently. and then he turned the job
rioters faced terror charges, warned the dpp, so police are braced for more violence.specialist officers are on standby , there officers are on standby, there are reports that the country could face riots up and down it, a variety of different locations tomorrow, with immigration centres being targeted and then counter protesters there are at least 30 locations that have been reported. and there are calls now for people who engage in that disorder to face terror charges, we will return to that....
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. >> i mean, he's shown how tough he is when he was the dpp, when the last set of riots ten or so years he made sure that the perpetrators were swiftly dealt with and banged up where appropriate. he said exactly the same now and i think if the courts have to meet through the night, if after, you know, they have to come back off their holidays to get these people through, then good. we need we need them locking up. >> i agree, i think keir starmer is the perfect prime minister to lock up hard right agitators who have broken the law attack cops who are trying to do their job. he is perfect for that. >> but you're trying to link these two things through immigration. they're not the same thing. >> so he is the right person to do that. >> he's a former top lawyer, and i think that it's brilliant to have 24 hour courts. and i would like to see every one of those far right thugs that hurt a police officer banged up, throw away the key as far as i'm concerned. so starmer's got my support, but he's got a wider remit. he's the prime minister now and he needs to bring the country together. and he
. >> i mean, he's shown how tough he is when he was the dpp, when the last set of riots ten or so years he made sure that the perpetrators were swiftly dealt with and banged up where appropriate. he said exactly the same now and i think if the courts have to meet through the night, if after, you know, they have to come back off their holidays to get these people through, then good. we need we need them locking up. >> i agree, i think keir starmer is the perfect prime minister to...
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they, they, you know, when starmer was dpp, he said quite clearly that he thought much of immigration attacking immigrants is racist. so i think that is the problem that we have. he doesn't say he doesn't see that it's going to be a problem. but but i think, you know, he you know, he was very fond of calling boris johnson a liar. but in the run up to election, he promised us all that he had a plan ready to 90, all that he had a plan ready to go, plan to deal with immigration and a plan to deal with stopping the boats. we see now. he has no plan whatsoever. there's no smashing the gangs. robert jenrick came up with a really interesting figure today, and he was talking about what every immigrant will cost in a lifetime to this country. 400 grand per person. now, you know , grand per person. now, you know, they're working on the fact that it's 20 odd grand a year to keep an immigrant currently. >> so is that an illegal immigrant or a legal immigrant? >> that's that is that is any immigrant that you have to house and feed and clothe? so i'm guessing the illegal ones. so, you know, we had
they, they, you know, when starmer was dpp, he said quite clearly that he thought much of immigration attacking immigrants is racist. so i think that is the problem that we have. he doesn't say he doesn't see that it's going to be a problem. but but i think, you know, he you know, he was very fond of calling boris johnson a liar. but in the run up to election, he promised us all that he had a plan ready to 90, all that he had a plan ready to go, plan to deal with immigration and a plan to deal...
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he said it when he was dpp. he thinks it's racist to deport people who are here illegally.g to solve this problem you just said he had on saturday? how is he going to tackle this? >> yeah. no, exactly. i mean, thatis >> yeah. no, exactly. i mean, that is the reality. it's all very well. and good now, you know, locking a load of people up.and know, locking a load of people up. and it's fine to say that a woman, regardless of whether or not she's a mother of six who threw a brick at a police officer and i think i'm right in saying, was seen handing another brick to a child. i think many people would think, oh, you probably that's the kind of thing you might go to prison for. >> or maybe it's the sort of thing that you might get a suspended prison sentence for, but a clean record, because this is it, because then you look at the other person who was sentenced today to a suspended sentence, who was a man with a history of domestic violence, who tried to, well, smother a pregnant woman with a pillow. >> and you think, well, that quy's >> and you think, well, that guy's got a sus
he said it when he was dpp. he thinks it's racist to deport people who are here illegally.g to solve this problem you just said he had on saturday? how is he going to tackle this? >> yeah. no, exactly. i mean, thatis >> yeah. no, exactly. i mean, that is the reality. it's all very well. and good now, you know, locking a load of people up.and know, locking a load of people up. and it's fine to say that a woman, regardless of whether or not she's a mother of six who threw a brick at a...
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. >> i mean, he's shown how tough he is when he was the dpp, when the last set of riots ten or so years he made sure that the perpetrators were swiftly dealt with and banged up where appropriate. he said exactly the same now and i think if the courts have to meet through the night, if after, you know, they have to come back off their holidays to get these people through, then good. we need we need them locking up. >> i agree, i think keir starmer is the perfect prime minister to lock up hard right agitators who have broken the law attack cops who are trying to do their job. he is perfect for that. >> but you're trying to link these two things through immigration. they're not the same thing. >> so he is the right person to do that. >> he's a former top lawyer, and i think that it's brilliant to have 24 hour courts. and i would like to see every one of those far right thugs that hurt a police officer banged up, throw away the key as far as i'm concerned. so starmer's got my support, but he's got a wider remit. he's the prime minister now and he needs to bring the country together. and he
. >> i mean, he's shown how tough he is when he was the dpp, when the last set of riots ten or so years he made sure that the perpetrators were swiftly dealt with and banged up where appropriate. he said exactly the same now and i think if the courts have to meet through the night, if after, you know, they have to come back off their holidays to get these people through, then good. we need we need them locking up. >> i agree, i think keir starmer is the perfect prime minister to...
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he was a dpp in 2011 when those riots happened . i should say riots happened.uld say that so far, 500 arrests across the country. back in 2011, it was 3000. so we're barely a sixth of the way there to the scale of the troubles back in 2011. so but he saw that happen. he got, and i've heard some sources in close to him saying they gave a kick up the bum to some, some extent in the cps to get them going, get them motoring on, getting , getting, motoring on, getting, getting, prosecutorial choices made and getting and getting showing people that if you do riot that there will be real world consequences for you very rapidly. but the next question, i think for the government is more tricky. how do they deal with the concerns about immigration? how they deal with the underlying issues in so many communities, so many across the country, a dozen towns and cities where rioting happened thatis cities where rioting happened that is a problem, not least how, how do, how do, how does people organise in that way on social media? that's one issue. but also the concerns in tho
he was a dpp in 2011 when those riots happened . i should say riots happened.uld say that so far, 500 arrests across the country. back in 2011, it was 3000. so we're barely a sixth of the way there to the scale of the troubles back in 2011. so but he saw that happen. he got, and i've heard some sources in close to him saying they gave a kick up the bum to some, some extent in the cps to get them going, get them motoring on, getting , getting, motoring on, getting, getting, prosecutorial choices...
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you've got this and you've got you have got this and you've got you have got a prime minister who was dppecution service, back in 2011 when courts opened round the clock to process rioters. so he's been at the front line . i mean, critics the front line. i mean, critics would say he's seeing this as this , just a kind of law and this, just a kind of law and order issue, when, of course, we would argue it's much more than that. and we're not hearing from anyone across government, it seems, on the labour side. will you learn lessons from this? will you take a breather and go , will you take a breather and go, let's deal with the riots. but at some point you've got to ask , at some point you've got to ask, why are so many people from local areas rioting against their own police about it ? their own police about it? piers, immigration issues. and that's a real concern. >> well, of course it it didn't help by labelling everybody far right because it's the same with the pro—palestinian protests. you can't label them all as far left, but it's quite easy to label a whole group as being from one p
you've got this and you've got you have got this and you've got you have got a prime minister who was dppecution service, back in 2011 when courts opened round the clock to process rioters. so he's been at the front line . i mean, critics the front line. i mean, critics would say he's seeing this as this , just a kind of law and this, just a kind of law and order issue, when, of course, we would argue it's much more than that. and we're not hearing from anyone across government, it seems, on...
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and he's very well aware of course, he was dpp.r concerns about immigration, why it's not far right to be anti—immigration and the like. we've heard from gavin stevens, who's the chair of the national police chiefs council. he's going towards some of this. he's saying just this afternoon that it's important to have conversations with young people , teenagers over the people, teenagers over the course of the next few days, really important, he says. they shouldn't get involved. don't go near this stuff. don't get drawn into it. because he says in quotes, it could change the prospects for the rest of your life. and we are seeing a lot of young children caught up in fights here, and it will have a real bearing on their ability to become employed in the future. it's worth comparing. just finally nana. the numbers arrested so far to 2011, the last comparable riots. just, i mean, 500 arrests, a lot of arrests are in nine days, 500 arrests, 2011 arrests are in nine days, 500 arrests, 201! similar riots across the country, 3000 arrests. so
and he's very well aware of course, he was dpp.r concerns about immigration, why it's not far right to be anti—immigration and the like. we've heard from gavin stevens, who's the chair of the national police chiefs council. he's going towards some of this. he's saying just this afternoon that it's important to have conversations with young people , teenagers over the people, teenagers over the course of the next few days, really important, he says. they shouldn't get involved. don't go near...
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a former dpp director of public prosecutions ran the crown prosecution service during the last big riots country, 3000 arrests there. i think a couple of thousand were were charged after that. we're down at 500 arrests now. really serious, of course, for those people and for the communities affected. but barely a sixth of the numbers charged arrested in 2011. but he know that back then, of course, we had court sitting through the night, magistrate courts to get urgent, charging and convictions and clearly he's learned that lesson here. he's pulled some levers in government, he's you know, he's made sure that the cps is quick. so we have got violence and trouble last week, arresting , charging guilty off arresting, charging guilty off to prison the following week. thatis to prison the following week. that is unusual, but it's clearly been done by the government or organised by the government, with the support of the court service to send a message to people. just don't get in trouble because it can really blight your career and depnve really blight your career and deprive you of liberty.
a former dpp director of public prosecutions ran the crown prosecution service during the last big riots country, 3000 arrests there. i think a couple of thousand were were charged after that. we're down at 500 arrests now. really serious, of course, for those people and for the communities affected. but barely a sixth of the numbers charged arrested in 2011. but he know that back then, of course, we had court sitting through the night, magistrate courts to get urgent, charging and convictions...
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now on social media and social media is not the entire country, but i think it's fascinating that the dpp twitter and elsewhere, was saying a different thing back in 2013. >> and is that case of another sir flip flop? is it a case of changing your mind once you're in power, or is it just adapting to a more robust social media world? chris. hope the viewers out there can make up their own minds on that one. always a pleasure to have you in the studio now. moving on. my next guest is andy purdy, who was part of the peaceful anti—immigration protests in aldershot last night. andy welcome to the show. it's a pleasure to have you here. i've seen some footage from that demonstration last night. it looked very, very peaceful. let's start by the fact that you decided to protest in aldershot at the holiday. the hotel there, the potters inn hotel, i believe it is, even though there were seven arrests last week, including a 13 year old girl. tell me why you decided to protest and tell me how it went . protest and tell me how it went. >> good afternoon. martin. >> good afternoon. martin. >> i felt i
now on social media and social media is not the entire country, but i think it's fascinating that the dpp twitter and elsewhere, was saying a different thing back in 2013. >> and is that case of another sir flip flop? is it a case of changing your mind once you're in power, or is it just adapting to a more robust social media world? chris. hope the viewers out there can make up their own minds on that one. always a pleasure to have you in the studio now. moving on. my next guest is andy...
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and that for me, felt like the former dpp coming out in him. you know , he what out in him.now, he what keir starmer is as much as anything else, is an institutionalist, a believer in those law and order institutions. >> the other there was a i can't remember what story. it was paper it was in today about two tier policing is a myth. that's the actual headline. do you think that's the case, emma? >> i was going to say, and i was thinking of that while emma was speaking there. i'm not sure that it is, if, you know. of course it should be. policing should be. well, a it should be done with consent and b , it done with consent and b, it should be sort of without fear or favour. it should be impartial . and i think for a impartial. and i think for a good few months since really since october 7 and then the beginnings of the big protests , beginnings of the big protests, pro—palestinian marches across central london and the sense that there is soft policing on one side or two tier policing. and then if, say , say, tommy and then if, say, say, tommy robinson and his followers have
and that for me, felt like the former dpp coming out in him. you know , he what out in him.now, he what keir starmer is as much as anything else, is an institutionalist, a believer in those law and order institutions. >> the other there was a i can't remember what story. it was paper it was in today about two tier policing is a myth. that's the actual headline. do you think that's the case, emma? >> i was going to say, and i was thinking of that while emma was speaking there. i'm...
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there are certain factual devices that need to be present, and it actually requires the consent of the dpp in the ten years between 2008 and 2018, only 35 people were in fact convicted of riot. it is a very rare offence and as i say, there are very specific factual matrix matrices that have to be fulfilled before the offence of riot is made out. i suspect that very few will actually be charged with riot. it's much easier for the police to charge the violent disorder and affray as alternatives to riot, and i honestly can't see that many, going , going to be honestly can't see that many, going, going to be convicted or charged even for riot, >> because i'm just looking at the prison situation and i realise that there are just over 700 places available. apparently what on earth what are we going to do with these people ? is to do with these people? is where are they going to go? the prisons are already overcrowded . prisons are already overcrowded. >> well, you're presuming guilt because there are a fair number of people who have people who have been charged, have pleaded guilty at the first
there are certain factual devices that need to be present, and it actually requires the consent of the dpp in the ten years between 2008 and 2018, only 35 people were in fact convicted of riot. it is a very rare offence and as i say, there are very specific factual matrix matrices that have to be fulfilled before the offence of riot is made out. i suspect that very few will actually be charged with riot. it's much easier for the police to charge the violent disorder and affray as alternatives...
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where do you think with keir starmer's background, as you know , former background, as you know, former dpp think there is an interesting debate as a society to be had about what the best likelihood of reducing people reoffending and rehabilitation if there are, you know, stats that prove that actually these community orders, which actually have people doing something useful rather than having a criminal record, not getting back into society, if it does seem to be quite a successful. i think it's an interesting debate to be had, but i would also say that because these people aren't getting a criminal record, it means they can go and work in nurseries and places where people would shouldn't be, shouldn't be allowed. >> yeah, okay. >> yeah, okay. >> okay . hold that thought. let >> okay. hold that thought. let us know your views on this one. get in touch this morning. we'll discuss that next time. alex and claire are back in the studio, which is going to be about 45 minutes time. guys, at the moment, thank you very much indeed. good morning. craig snell with the weather. >> that warm feeling
where do you think with keir starmer's background, as you know , former background, as you know, former dpp think there is an interesting debate as a society to be had about what the best likelihood of reducing people reoffending and rehabilitation if there are, you know, stats that prove that actually these community orders, which actually have people doing something useful rather than having a criminal record, not getting back into society, if it does seem to be quite a successful. i think...
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and this is what the dpp has been saying. these children could get criminal records.refore struggle to get employment. they will therefore struggle to travel, depending on what they're, you know, convicted for, and it is a life changing decision to get involved in these riots, these criminal riots. and these kids are clearly not capable of making those decisions. >> no they're not. >> no they're not. >> no. and but but i mean, what what what i'd like to know is how often they're brought along. i mean, that it's not just they're allowed or there are parents who don't, don't know what they're up to, but actually there are parents who are saying , there are parents who are saying, yes, you know, let's all go and it and you're right about it changing, you know , they can get changing, you know, they can get a criminal record and everything. but also i mean, what worries me is what happens when you're in the middle of a riot and how how damn. i mean, that whole hate that it's the adrenaline, the pictures of people throwing things at the police. you see the pictures of peop
and this is what the dpp has been saying. these children could get criminal records.refore struggle to get employment. they will therefore struggle to travel, depending on what they're, you know, convicted for, and it is a life changing decision to get involved in these riots, these criminal riots. and these kids are clearly not capable of making those decisions. >> no they're not. >> no they're not. >> no. and but but i mean, what what what i'd like to know is how often...
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but as things stand, the stuff that the pm knows what to do really well, he was the dpp.ince those killings in southport last week. the political challenge, though , political challenge, though, hasn't really yet been addressed. how do you go to the underlying causes of why people are so upset, not just the rioters, but many people concerned about immigration wire asylum seekers being housed in hotels ? why is that right? and hotels? why is that right? and those challenges, i think, are yet to be addressed by this government, but they might be sooi'i. 500“. >> soon. >> okay, chris, thanks very much indeed. >> well, let's speak to paymaster general nick thomas—symonds, who joins us now. to good see you this morning, let's start with rickie jones, shall we? the suspended labour councillor. he has been arrested. i know we're limited about what we can say, but for allegedly talking about the rioters, saying that they are disgusting. nothing. fascists. we need to cut all of their throats and get rid of them all. what do you have to say about that behaviour and that language fr
but as things stand, the stuff that the pm knows what to do really well, he was the dpp.ince those killings in southport last week. the political challenge, though , political challenge, though, hasn't really yet been addressed. how do you go to the underlying causes of why people are so upset, not just the rioters, but many people concerned about immigration wire asylum seekers being housed in hotels ? why is that right? and hotels? why is that right? and those challenges, i think, are yet to...
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you know, in terms of his previous role as dpp. exactly.e's actually probably cracked on with this quite independently because he can do this. and that's when we've seen these advisers, probably to a degree, twiddling their thumbs a little bit and go, well, let's just start a bit of a war with each other. i think, however, if he gets put in crisis and situations that he needs to think a little bit more on his feet about and show that true in the moment. leadership, you don't want the advisers to slow you down. you know, i think we've seen so many decisions in the past where you can just feel it's just rishi sunak. yeah, exactly, exactly. and who was he listening to? >> do you think he did that on his own, or do you think he. because where were the special advisers, do you think that someone would say, look, dude, it's not a good idea. this is a really big day. yeah, it's a very patriotic day. do not go and do a pre—req for it. >> yeah, i think he's probably listening to about five different people, all kind of giving him slightly different
you know, in terms of his previous role as dpp. exactly.e's actually probably cracked on with this quite independently because he can do this. and that's when we've seen these advisers, probably to a degree, twiddling their thumbs a little bit and go, well, let's just start a bit of a war with each other. i think, however, if he gets put in crisis and situations that he needs to think a little bit more on his feet about and show that true in the moment. leadership, you don't want the advisers...
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. >> and as a former dpp, well, you'd think that he would be really motivated to try and get a grip. our home secretary but if they can't do it now at the start of a term with a huge parliamentary majority , so they've got majority, so they've got a massive remit, they've got an absolute fantastic remit to be able to say, right, we're going to deal with not only the trouble which does have to be deau trouble which does have to be dealt with straight away, and you can't be going round rioting , you can't be going round rioting, obviously, but you've also got this huge political remit to say, right, we are going to sort all the rest of it out with no money, with, well, maybe this is this is the issue, isn't it? maybe we've got to spend money or borrow money to deal with it. because. because when what do the hotel's costing us? £6 million a day or something and no wonder communities get upset about that. >> i mean, it's hugely difficult. >> there's no easy answer to it. we're just voicing ideas. we're not politicians, thank heavens. yes, if you've got views on that gbnews.com/yoursay >>
. >> and as a former dpp, well, you'd think that he would be really motivated to try and get a grip. our home secretary but if they can't do it now at the start of a term with a huge parliamentary majority , so they've got majority, so they've got a massive remit, they've got an absolute fantastic remit to be able to say, right, we're going to deal with not only the trouble which does have to be deau trouble which does have to be dealt with straight away, and you can't be going round...
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