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>> jack smith is pulling no punches. i briefly went through this new court filing and here is one of the representations of special counsel. he says that donald trump argues that "the first amendment will be eroded unless he, donald trump, is permitted to lie about fbi agents intending to murder him and his family, the law requires no such thing." these are blunt assertions by jack smith. when we reflect back on how we got here, you know, donald trump's lawyers were given a heads up about when the fbi would be executing the search warrant at mar-a-lago and they specifically tied it with donald trump and his family would be out of the state of florida. what did donald trump do with that information? he lied and said the fbi was coming to assassinate him and ready to harm his family. those lies are designed to inspire people for violence against fbi agents which is why jack smith is going scorched earth, trying to get his conditions of release modified to put a stop to this reckless violence inducing rhetoric. >> that is t
>> jack smith is pulling no punches. i briefly went through this new court filing and here is one of the representations of special counsel. he says that donald trump argues that "the first amendment will be eroded unless he, donald trump, is permitted to lie about fbi agents intending to murder him and his family, the law requires no such thing." these are blunt assertions by jack smith. when we reflect back on how we got here, you know, donald trump's lawyers were given a...
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smith has brought against donald trump because jack smith was on constitutionally appointed. >> we knowf the attorney general chosen, constitutionally, the goodby individuals already gone through the confirmation process of the united states senate has compelled the appointments clause of the constitution is there for a reason. it would pick jack smith and somebody was a lawyer, who has not been approved by the senate invited the framers of the constitution when a role for congress specifically this tendency, and the appointment of these top powerful positions in the executive branch. steve: will market originally congress thought of giving the appointment and power to congress alone and only later undecided issuer between the president and the senate but they felt that it was crucial that there be a check on presidential appointment powers of the presidents notify people who bad moral character or tainted by nepotism or things of that point. in effect, under the constitution, the default method of appointment, is presidential nomination and senatorial confirmation. jack smith is not go
smith has brought against donald trump because jack smith was on constitutionally appointed. >> we knowf the attorney general chosen, constitutionally, the goodby individuals already gone through the confirmation process of the united states senate has compelled the appointments clause of the constitution is there for a reason. it would pick jack smith and somebody was a lawyer, who has not been approved by the senate invited the framers of the constitution when a role for congress...
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so i think ultimately jack smith will remain in place. so let me get back to katelyn polantz doing excellent reporting on all of this. >> today's hearing. kaitlan, as you know, is just the start of a flurry of legal arguments in this case. we're expecting more key hearings next week. tell us about that. >> yeah. there are several more days is ahead with judge aileen cannon in that courtroom monday and tuesday more arguments on monday, the prosecutors do want to have the judge of tried to convince the judge to put limitations on donald trump's speech, so-called gag order, because they believe that he's speaking so much about law enforcement and spending misleading formation about them in a way that could harm them, either as witnesses if they were agents that took part in the search of mar-a-lago or just generally be very harmful to the fbi, the justice department that trump rhetoric continues. they're asking to change his release conditions, so something even more than his happened in other cases. but that's the centerpiece of what the ar
so i think ultimately jack smith will remain in place. so let me get back to katelyn polantz doing excellent reporting on all of this. >> today's hearing. kaitlan, as you know, is just the start of a flurry of legal arguments in this case. we're expecting more key hearings next week. tell us about that. >> yeah. there are several more days is ahead with judge aileen cannon in that courtroom monday and tuesday more arguments on monday, the prosecutors do want to have the judge of...
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you were in the courthouse and jack smith was in the courthouse today. it seems the hearing got fairly heated at certain points. your takeaways? >> you are right about that. i was focusing on jack smith because i wanted to see his expressions on his face when david hart boxes part of special counsel legal team was having the back and forth when judge cannon, judge cannon on previous occasions with this particular attorney has had issues with him and vice versa. i don't think she appreciates the gravity of what was being presented to her because she immediately, not because there was a suggestion made by the other side in terms of the defense, but she immediately said, what about the fact that rejections have been done of the names of law enforcement and witnesses? how is that not enough for me to consider when you're making this argument that there's danger or risk to law enforcement officers. she hung her hat on that throughout a lot of what happened today but the hearing is two hours and special counsel jack smith, poker face even when there was a lot
you were in the courthouse and jack smith was in the courthouse today. it seems the hearing got fairly heated at certain points. your takeaways? >> you are right about that. i was focusing on jack smith because i wanted to see his expressions on his face when david hart boxes part of special counsel legal team was having the back and forth when judge cannon, judge cannon on previous occasions with this particular attorney has had issues with him and vice versa. i don't think she...
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was jack smith nominated by president biden?>> to know, he was not. >> with the confirmed by the senate? >> no. he was not. >> when was a special counsel statute pass? >> there is none. it was the independent counsel statute that was expire. but it expired. what gives you authority to appoint a special counsel? you have created an office in the u.s. government but does not exist without authorization from congress. >> there are regulations under which the attorney general appoints special counsel. they have been in effect for 30 years, maybe longer, under parties, under both parties. the matter you are talking about about whether somebody can have an employee of the justice department service special counsel has been adjudicated. >> let me interrupt for a second. you appealed to regulation, a rule, whereas the constitution says, shall be established by law. >> there is a statue. >> right, the statue. but you referred to a regulation, not u.s. code. >> may answer? the regulation cites the two u.s. code provisions that permit the
was jack smith nominated by president biden?>> to know, he was not. >> with the confirmed by the senate? >> no. he was not. >> when was a special counsel statute pass? >> there is none. it was the independent counsel statute that was expire. but it expired. what gives you authority to appoint a special counsel? you have created an office in the u.s. government but does not exist without authorization from congress. >> there are regulations under which the...
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shows how special counsel jack smith, and michael colangelo, and da bragg.nning a again. and bunch of them took act on the same day on november 18. after the midterms, what does chair jordan, what can he find? can he mind an e-mail from joe biden saying to unda bragg. what is the silver bullet that would link this. >> first of all, if they have nothing to worry about, they should turnover the documents, turnover the information, if you tell the truth you have nothing to worry about. but i think what chairman jordan is seeing there may be cla collaboration and a connection and a link, not between the president of the united states directly to someone in new york city. but it could be from staff, from other individuals, there could be things that were said and done by matthew colangelo again. in his role of being prosecutor. and also in his role of being at the department of justice, that should be separate from each other, the department of justice didn't want anything to do with this case. suppose edly we have to investigate that. >> you are talking about a
shows how special counsel jack smith, and michael colangelo, and da bragg.nning a again. and bunch of them took act on the same day on november 18. after the midterms, what does chair jordan, what can he find? can he mind an e-mail from joe biden saying to unda bragg. what is the silver bullet that would link this. >> first of all, if they have nothing to worry about, they should turnover the documents, turnover the information, if you tell the truth you have nothing to worry about. but i...
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jack smith.purposes jack smith is not a principal officer sent an inferior officer he is a nothing let me give you another example 1978 congress passed the independent counsel act it was called the ethics in government act but it created independent counsel. it allowed the appointment of special counsel by a special three-judge panel i know i live do thito this i was chief to stf attorney general mees independent counsel are being appointed left and right. the law had a sunset provision every five years. it was not renewed in expired in 1999 both the republicans and the democrats set enough of these independent councils. they are doing damage. they are responsible to nobody. but they did not pass a statute to create the power within the department of justice for the attorney general to appoint a special counsel. a regulation was issued by the department of justice, giving it self power to appoint a special counsel. well, that does not fly, doesn't it? you remember the beginning. congress wanted c
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trump's lawyers arguing jack smith's appointment of special counsel is uns constitutional claims a special counsel must be appointed categorized unprincipled author and contending that the attorney general's ability to appoint a special counsel with the authority of a u.s. attorney is like appointing a "shadow government." the judge appeared skeptical of the argument pushing back saying, "is that really a realistic risk,s when there are well-defined statutes regarding the attorney general's appointment authority"? special counsel refuting the arguments says it disregards precedent and would have a "pernicious consequence." smith's office pointing to history and precedent citing renowned cases that already decided that attorneys general have the authority to appoint independent special counsels. experts on both sides questioning, why? why was this motion brought to a hearing in the first place? take a listen to former trump attorney ty cobb. >> in the supreme court and upheld. the fact she doesn't deny most motions without a hearing is silly. the fact that trump can get a hearing now on the
trump's lawyers arguing jack smith's appointment of special counsel is uns constitutional claims a special counsel must be appointed categorized unprincipled author and contending that the attorney general's ability to appoint a special counsel with the authority of a u.s. attorney is like appointing a "shadow government." the judge appeared skeptical of the argument pushing back saying, "is that really a realistic risk,s when there are well-defined statutes regarding the...
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yesterday, she actually held a hearing on whether jack smith was legally appointed as special counsel, you heard that right. trump's lawyers argued that the attorney general's ability to appoint smith was comparable to the power of a shadow government, she questioned whether that was a realistic assessment but as we came to expect, she also displayed distress of the prosecutors. also the new york times reports that federal judges in south florida advised cannon to not take this case when it was assigned to her last year. cannon of course, refused. and here we are, we have to former federal prosecutors here to break it all down. legal analyst kristi greenberg, she's a former deputy chief for the southern district of new york and senior writer for political magazine, ankush khardori, welcome back to both. >> kristi you described the meeting as a meeting that could've been and email. >> have you ever been to a meeting and you're sitting there wondering why are we here. this could have easily been resolved with an order, the question is basic, did merrick garland have the authority to app
yesterday, she actually held a hearing on whether jack smith was legally appointed as special counsel, you heard that right. trump's lawyers argued that the attorney general's ability to appoint smith was comparable to the power of a shadow government, she questioned whether that was a realistic assessment but as we came to expect, she also displayed distress of the prosecutors. also the new york times reports that federal judges in south florida advised cannon to not take this case when it was...
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and tonight, special counsel jack smith revealing never before seen photos, how classified documents were allegedly stored at mar-a-lago. victor oquendo now from florida. >> reporter: tonight, special counsel jack smith firing back against donald trump's claims fbi agents tampered with boxes allegedly containing classified material, discovered when they searched his mar-a-lago estate. in a new court filing, prosecutors with their most detailed description yet of how trump allegedly "personally chose to keep documents containing some of the nation's most highly guarded secrets" among a "cluttered collection of keepsakes" including "newspapers, thank you notes, christmas ornaments, magazines, clothing, and photographs of himself and others." trump's lawyers claim prosecutors have not preserved the boxes in the exact manner in which they were found, insisting they were manipulated. prosecutors say that's just not true, saying the haphazard manner in which the boxes were packed and stored by trump made it inevitable that the contents inside would shift. they blasted trump's claims as the
and tonight, special counsel jack smith revealing never before seen photos, how classified documents were allegedly stored at mar-a-lago. victor oquendo now from florida. >> reporter: tonight, special counsel jack smith firing back against donald trump's claims fbi agents tampered with boxes allegedly containing classified material, discovered when they searched his mar-a-lago estate. in a new court filing, prosecutors with their most detailed description yet of how trump allegedly...
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. >> by special counsel jack smith. let's go back to cnn's paula reid. she had gotten the latest on these developments. paula, what can you tell us? >> some wolf back? in may, attorneys for special counsel, jack smith, requested that the judge overseeing the classified documents case, aileen cannon make it clear that trump cannot make statements that pose a significant, imminent or foreseeable danger to law enforcement agents participating in the investigation? no, they're concerned were false and inflammatory statements that trump made when he claimed that fbi agents were ready to shoot him and that he nearly escaped death during the search of his mar-a-lago property. now, we'll he was in new york at the time of that search. now, here his his attorneys are arguing against any restrictions on his speech. they're making many of the same arguments that they have made many times related to other gag orders pointing to the fact that he is the leading candidate for the republican ticket for the presidency insinuating that this is some sort of efforts to restr
. >> by special counsel jack smith. let's go back to cnn's paula reid. she had gotten the latest on these developments. paula, what can you tell us? >> some wolf back? in may, attorneys for special counsel, jack smith, requested that the judge overseeing the classified documents case, aileen cannon make it clear that trump cannot make statements that pose a significant, imminent or foreseeable danger to law enforcement agents participating in the investigation? no, they're concerned...
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merrick garland can block any action he deems unfit by jack smith. whether she rules it's constitutional or not, the up shot of all of these hearings, as you said, this case has been delayed and delayed, and there's really very little possibility it's going to go to trial before the november election. >> ken dilanian in fort pierce, let's talk about that. the weather is constitutional, the special counsel, jack smith's case to be there or not. i'm thinking like on standing on this, is this where this argument should be made? >> this is a long shot argument. i have seen similar motions filed. they are rarely successful, and it's based on the idea that jack smith is either not senate confirmed or he's an employee. that's what some of the professors are arguing that he's not even in an inferior officer, he's just an employee. the bottom line and ken dilanian explained the difference very well that he was never senate confirmed. it's a long shot, we defense attorneys are duty bound to make long shot arguments as long as they're not patently frivolous, an
merrick garland can block any action he deems unfit by jack smith. whether she rules it's constitutional or not, the up shot of all of these hearings, as you said, this case has been delayed and delayed, and there's really very little possibility it's going to go to trial before the november election. >> ken dilanian in fort pierce, let's talk about that. the weather is constitutional, the special counsel, jack smith's case to be there or not. i'm thinking like on standing on this, is...
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the one difference between jack smith and those two men is jack smith was never confirmed by the senate. what donald trump's lawyers are doing is they are turning jack smith's independence on its head and saying, he's so independent, he's making his own decisions, that he's actually a principle officer, rather than an inferior officer and therefore he should have been senate confirmed because the founders didn't envision someone having that much power without having been reviewed by the senate. it is an interesting argument, made find its way to the supreme court at some point, but many legal experts are questioning why the judge is giving a day long hearing to these arguments rather than just making a ruling based on the briefs, written briefs filed in her courtroom, and this is the reason, jose, there is no trial date set for this case and none in sight. >> so, paul, how unusual is this that the -- that a judge brings in friends of the court arguments in these pretrial moments? >> everything is unusual about this hearing. but i think that's kind of usual for judge cannon. there is no
the one difference between jack smith and those two men is jack smith was never confirmed by the senate. what donald trump's lawyers are doing is they are turning jack smith's independence on its head and saying, he's so independent, he's making his own decisions, that he's actually a principle officer, rather than an inferior officer and therefore he should have been senate confirmed because the founders didn't envision someone having that much power without having been reviewed by the senate....
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that is what jack smith asked for and they said, no, go to the d.c.ck smith did and the appellate court came out with a thorough reading in the supreme court threw it in the trash so i think the reason for the delay is they are coming up with several rulings and concurrent opinions. it will be a bit of a mess and i think it will be hard to try this case before the election. one bright civil -- silver lining, alex, fact findings will let the public know what donald trump's rule was before and after january 6th. a mini trial, if you will. >> it will be a busy week. let's make a date for next week, dave aronberg. >> let's do it . >>> donald trump list of grievances ahead of thursday's big debate. five days to go. when people switch their dog's food from kibble to the farmer's dog, they often say that it feels like magic. but there's no magic involved. (dog bark) it's simply fresh meat and vegetables, with all the nutrients dogs need— instead of dried pellets. just food made for the health of dogs. delivered in packs portioned for your dog. it's amazing w
that is what jack smith asked for and they said, no, go to the d.c.ck smith did and the appellate court came out with a thorough reading in the supreme court threw it in the trash so i think the reason for the delay is they are coming up with several rulings and concurrent opinions. it will be a bit of a mess and i think it will be hard to try this case before the election. one bright civil -- silver lining, alex, fact findings will let the public know what donald trump's rule was before and...
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should taxpayers limitlessly un endingly fund jack smith for as long as jack smith wants? and knowing that congress holds the purse strings judge aileen cannon is pushing on that saying wait a second. is this okay? >> no. i think she was absolutely right to ask those questions and then dig into the details. when i was a young lawyer, my grandfather taught me most things worth knowing, would say how does it actually work? what are the facts of the case? and she was drilling down on that, and what she got back was there is no supervision according to doj. jack smith is a law unto himself and think about how many times he's violated doj policy or done things that someone with some sort of judgment would say well you really want to be that aggressive with a former president where there's no precedent? do you really want to do that, so digging into those specific facts, that was important and shows she gets it. liz: real pushback on the trump cases. sam, thank you so much. joining us now former justice department attorney hans von spakovsky. hans, we need you on this story. the
should taxpayers limitlessly un endingly fund jack smith for as long as jack smith wants? and knowing that congress holds the purse strings judge aileen cannon is pushing on that saying wait a second. is this okay? >> no. i think she was absolutely right to ask those questions and then dig into the details. when i was a young lawyer, my grandfather taught me most things worth knowing, would say how does it actually work? what are the facts of the case? and she was drilling down on that,...
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we have a deranged individual named jack smith. he's a deranged that dumb guy is a dumb son of a well, that's his feelings about jack smith and cannon is entertaining trump's requests to have evidence seized at mar-a-lago thrown out as well. that hearing coming up in days. the bottom line is this. >> cannons actions have now essentially ensured that trump's case does not go to trial before the election. >> in fact, she hasn't even decided on at least eight major issues, six motions to dismiss, a gag order request, and i guess on top of all of it, important to note, she has even set a trial date. >> it is no wonder that judge cannon, thus far is trump's favorite judge. i know it's a very highly respected judge, are very smart, judge, and a very strong jackpot. >> you appointed her. >> i did. and i'm very proud to have appointed her, but she very smart and very strong. and the levs our country online, he posted this about jack smith's saying he should be sanctioned or censured for the way he is attacking a highly respected judge aile
we have a deranged individual named jack smith. he's a deranged that dumb guy is a dumb son of a well, that's his feelings about jack smith and cannon is entertaining trump's requests to have evidence seized at mar-a-lago thrown out as well. that hearing coming up in days. the bottom line is this. >> cannons actions have now essentially ensured that trump's case does not go to trial before the election. >> in fact, she hasn't even decided on at least eight major issues, six motions...
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even though the justice department isn't controlling the actions of jack smith, he's supervised.t's extraordinary is this hearing is happening at all and particularly that judge cannon is allowing friends of the court, outside parties to come in and make arguments before her. that is rarely, if ever, seen in a federal criminal trial, ana. >> thank you very much for that update from the courthouse. kristy, do you think this question of whether jack smith's appointment is constitutional is worthy of the level of scrutiny and time judge cannon is spending here? i mean, she's not only spending a whole day on it, she's also calling in outside legal experts, i guess, she would call them. >> none of this is necessary. whether you go to a meeting and you say that meeting really should have been an email. this is hearing that really should have been an order, a summary order that was just denying trump's motion. the statutory text is clear and to the extent there are any questions about the statutory text giving the a.g. the authority to appoint a special counsel, u.s. v. nixon cleared th
even though the justice department isn't controlling the actions of jack smith, he's supervised.t's extraordinary is this hearing is happening at all and particularly that judge cannon is allowing friends of the court, outside parties to come in and make arguments before her. that is rarely, if ever, seen in a federal criminal trial, ana. >> thank you very much for that update from the courthouse. kristy, do you think this question of whether jack smith's appointment is constitutional is...
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you have all kinds of lawyers in this time but he picked jack smith. you just mentioned would be political appointees. i appointed some someone who is independent nonpartisan with a record of career experiences of prosecutors. that seems to be the perfect resume for ma had to work with the high court. he was the best pick? >> he was independent. he was nonpartisan. he never held a political office but he was never appointed in a political office. >> was he your firsoice?>> i am not going to go into it. >> did you know him beyou picked him? >> i did not. >> i met with him and asked if he would be willing to do this. >> did he ask for the job? >> this was not a job i think anyone asks for. >> but that is not the question i asked you. did he convey through someone else he wanted the job? surprised. >> you do not know? >> no i do not know. >> so he may have? >> i can only tell you what i know. >> was it impartial when he went after governor mcdonald? >> they said it was wrong and overturned the conviction. >> it wa e ction of the s they thought were warran
you have all kinds of lawyers in this time but he picked jack smith. you just mentioned would be political appointees. i appointed some someone who is independent nonpartisan with a record of career experiences of prosecutors. that seems to be the perfect resume for ma had to work with the high court. he was the best pick? >> he was independent. he was nonpartisan. he never held a political office but he was never appointed in a political office. >> was he your firsoice?>> i...
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claiming that special counsel jack smith's appointment was, get this, unconstitutional. and if that argument sounds far- fetched to you, you would not be wrong. as many legal experts will tell you, it's a kind of longshot challenge that would be thrown out by any other judge. it is without basis in law, it is without precedent, and it has been shot down by, okay, similar judges in many other cases. but apparently, judge cannon just had to have a hearing about it. it's the last delay tactic for a judge was wasted countless months on frivolous motions. she has all but refused to allow trump's case to go to trial, and still -- still -- hasn't even set a date for the trial to begin. when it comes to the help that trump is giving from the bench right now, that is exhibit a. but then there is exhibit b, which of course, is the supreme court. it has been two months since the court heard oral arguments on trump's ridiculous claim of presidential immunity. and now there is just one week left before the end of their term, and there is still no decision. sure, they have a lot on th
claiming that special counsel jack smith's appointment was, get this, unconstitutional. and if that argument sounds far- fetched to you, you would not be wrong. as many legal experts will tell you, it's a kind of longshot challenge that would be thrown out by any other judge. it is without basis in law, it is without precedent, and it has been shot down by, okay, similar judges in many other cases. but apparently, judge cannon just had to have a hearing about it. it's the last delay tactic for...
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jack smith was in the courthouse today.seems like this hearing got fairly heated at certain points. your big takeaways. >> reporter: you are right about that. i was focusing on jack smith because i want to see the expression on his face when david harbaugh, a part of the special counsel legal team was having the back and forth with judge cannon. judge cannon on previous occasions with this particular attorney, david harbaugh, has had issues with him and vice versa. i don't think that she appreciates the gravity of what was being presented to her because she immediately, not because there were suggested made by the other side in terms of the defense, but she merely said what about the fact that redactions have been done on the names of law enforcement and other witnesses? how is that not enough for me to consider when you make this argument that there is some danger or rest of the law enforcement officers. she put on her hat with what happened today. the hearing was about two hours. jack smith, poker face the entire time. ev
jack smith was in the courthouse today.seems like this hearing got fairly heated at certain points. your big takeaways. >> reporter: you are right about that. i was focusing on jack smith because i want to see the expression on his face when david harbaugh, a part of the special counsel legal team was having the back and forth with judge cannon. judge cannon on previous occasions with this particular attorney, david harbaugh, has had issues with him and vice versa. i don't think that she...
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there is also a hearing tomorrow that will deal with jack smith's request for a gag order. given the fact that trump has been making these false claims that the fbi was out to kill him , help us understand exactly what this is that we are watching unfold here. this sounds like there is something else going on that a posse of significant, imminent foreseeable danger to law enforcement is his argument while donald trump is saying, they were coming to get me. how can judge cannon justify not taking action on this aspect of it? >> i think here she is playing with fire. there are two motions pending having to do with donald trump's statements that can lead to imminent danger. one is a new york related to the gag order there. the other is before judge cannon. this is one as lisa pointed out, the judge has been so cavalier in the way she's handled this, the timing of it, delaying having a hearing, rejecting the filing that was made on the ground that there was not sufficient conferral with the other side. that is the kind of actions that if she rejects this application it will be
there is also a hearing tomorrow that will deal with jack smith's request for a gag order. given the fact that trump has been making these false claims that the fbi was out to kill him , help us understand exactly what this is that we are watching unfold here. this sounds like there is something else going on that a posse of significant, imminent foreseeable danger to law enforcement is his argument while donald trump is saying, they were coming to get me. how can judge cannon justify not...
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garland, trump's position would be there's too much oversight over jack smith? >> yeah. i think trump is seeking maybe what was, he's actually trying to put the special counsel in a box. no matter what they answered. a question like, how do i look in this dress or compare to my friends? you don't know how to answer no matter what the answer's going to be. you're going to potentially lose. i think at the crux of the matter this hearing was over brer it was -- before it was started. a practical matter all sided with special counsel saying they were lawful and as the special counsel argued, made that point clear. judge cannon, very inclined towards trump really was calling into question the arguments that trump's team made. i think the question here is process. why was there a hearing? why isn't is trial date set? timing and process is the issue here. not the result almost certainly a denial of trump's motion. >> and past is not prologue with judge cannon. seen her cause the 11th circuit come back tell her she was wrong. your colleagues at "politico" written trump'
garland, trump's position would be there's too much oversight over jack smith? >> yeah. i think trump is seeking maybe what was, he's actually trying to put the special counsel in a box. no matter what they answered. a question like, how do i look in this dress or compare to my friends? you don't know how to answer no matter what the answer's going to be. you're going to potentially lose. i think at the crux of the matter this hearing was over brer it was -- before it was started. a...
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jack smith is an inferior officer. it is clear under statutory authority in the constitution that he can be appointed by the attorney general of the united states. i think that is quite clear. but even if there was some other path, there is a doctrine that says when actions have been taken, such as this, we don't go back in and unravel that action because the appointment was unlawful. that is the doctrine that is excepted in law. you can move forward and you change things moving forward but you don't go back and unravel what has already been done. there are some the reasons why this is wrong. >> i would say, again, trying to be fair here and not allow my own biases to color how i see this, in the main, this judge has taken a bunch of actions and not taken a bunch of actions, that have led to a lot of delay. and i would say, a sort of surprising degree of solicit business towards defenses arguments, no matter how outlandish they seem. >> i agree with you, chris. i do think some of it is through an experience or lack of
jack smith is an inferior officer. it is clear under statutory authority in the constitution that he can be appointed by the attorney general of the united states. i think that is quite clear. but even if there was some other path, there is a doctrine that says when actions have been taken, such as this, we don't go back in and unravel that action because the appointment was unlawful. that is the doctrine that is excepted in law. you can move forward and you change things moving forward but you...
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the senate never confirmed jack smith. >> correct.th: it confirmed special counsel robert hur and david weiss. also congress, only congress has the authority to create jack smith's office. so it just feels like everything has gone rogue here if you're a constitutional a scholar. former a.g. ed meese and michael mukasey argued this in a friend of the court brief saying his office is unconstitutional a, jack smith should not be out there prosecuting trump at all. he doesn't have legal stand thing. your final word. >> well, i think that weiss and the hur were not confirmed by the senate. hur presents the same problem. if wise was confirmed -- weiss was confirmed as the u.s. attorney of contract, so he's probably -- connecticut, so he's probably in a different category. but mukasey and meese are serious or legal thinkers, and their objections could be well taken here. elizabeth: okay. andrew mccarthy, thank you for this, cleaning up everything we say on camera. good to see you. >> sure. elizabeth: still the ahead, wall street pro carol ro
the senate never confirmed jack smith. >> correct.th: it confirmed special counsel robert hur and david weiss. also congress, only congress has the authority to create jack smith's office. so it just feels like everything has gone rogue here if you're a constitutional a scholar. former a.g. ed meese and michael mukasey argued this in a friend of the court brief saying his office is unconstitutional a, jack smith should not be out there prosecuting trump at all. he doesn't have legal stand...
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the good news for special counsel jack smith as just explained you can actually continue as jack smithveling under this federal statute because the ruling that came from fischer yesterday did not destroy the case against donald trump. the decision yesterday bolstered the idea that donald trump conspiring to obstruct accounting or certification of the electoral votes by the submission of fake electors ballots is a part of that case. the bottom line is the government was told i the supreme court it overreached in terms of the breadth of the statute and what to apply. fischer wanted a narrow reading, a lot of people think this will impact a lot of defendants but it's a small subset that are being prosecuted right now by the doj. when it comes to donald trump's case the indictment still stands and special counsel jack smith is on decent ground even considering this ruling that came from the court yesterday. >> did anything in the obstruction decision or other decisions hint how the court will rule monday on trump's claims of immunity? >> i'm not sure we can read into any decisions thus far
the good news for special counsel jack smith as just explained you can actually continue as jack smithveling under this federal statute because the ruling that came from fischer yesterday did not destroy the case against donald trump. the decision yesterday bolstered the idea that donald trump conspiring to obstruct accounting or certification of the electoral votes by the submission of fake electors ballots is a part of that case. the bottom line is the government was told i the supreme court...
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what jack smith's case, that is the question being batted around before judge aileen cannon in court today as major questions about her own role in the trial hang over proceedings. there is still no trial date in sight. instead, to the frustration of many, cannon is hearing out what several legal experts have called another long shot argument to dismiss charges against the former president. yesterday, "the new york times" reported cannon rejected urges from two federal judges that she not take the case when it was firsthanded to her last june. the question is why, when a huge chunk of her rulings have drawn criticism from the prosecution and legal scholars. is it inexperience, she was only on the bench just over a year. is it potential bias? she has shown unusual favor to trump by intervening in the mar-a-lago investigation before he was indicted or is it simply judge cannon's way of proceeding over such a high stakes high profile trial. we're going to dig into it with our legal experts. let's get started. joining us in fort pierce, florida, where the hearing is taking place, nbc new
what jack smith's case, that is the question being batted around before judge aileen cannon in court today as major questions about her own role in the trial hang over proceedings. there is still no trial date in sight. instead, to the frustration of many, cannon is hearing out what several legal experts have called another long shot argument to dismiss charges against the former president. yesterday, "the new york times" reported cannon rejected urges from two federal judges that she...
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of course, i would urge jack smith to proceed with trial, absolutely as soon as he can., to have a trial straddling an election, in which the criminal defendant already convicted on 34 felonies, happens also ■çto be a candidat for president. to allow him to use his candidacy as a get out of jail free card, not only by assuring everyone that if he wins, he will find an attorney general who dismisses this case, but also by arranging ads, so that gosh, it is inconvenient to hold trial now, i'm in the middle of campaigning, would be a travesty. it would be the most outrageous example of justice delayed, being justice denied, and it is not just justice for one individual, it is justice for the american people. >> this is a moment of existential ■çsignificance, is important thing for us to consider. gentlemen, i appreciate your analysis, your time, the thought you have put into this and your strenuous defense of democracy. judge michael luttig , judge for the fourth circuit and lawrence tribe, professor emeritus of harvard law school and author of american constitutional law a
of course, i would urge jack smith to proceed with trial, absolutely as soon as he can., to have a trial straddling an election, in which the criminal defendant already convicted on 34 felonies, happens also ■çto be a candidat for president. to allow him to use his candidacy as a get out of jail free card, not only by assuring everyone that if he wins, he will find an attorney general who dismisses this case, but also by arranging ads, so that gosh, it is inconvenient to hold trial now, i'm...
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doj prosecutor and both sides argued over the legality of special counsel jack smith's appointment in classified documents case. >> sandra: jillian come this is all happening soon. the hearing on evidence taken in the mar-a-lago raid. if we could tee up some of the sound we have here, this was jonathan turley if we have it, he joined us on the program yesterday and he was slamming jack smith's push for a gag order listen here. >> saying i want to gag the leading presidential candidate from criticizing the department, criticizing the fbi. i mean, just trying to get your mind around that, this has been the signature of jack smith who seems to believe as oscar wilde and nothing succeeds like success. >> sandra: now done with a really good point for all of us very hard rubber mind around, jack smith's gag order too far according to jonathan turley. >> gillian: he also said jonathan argued last week part of the reason you oppose a gag order during a trial and the criminal proceedings is to have leverage over the defendant, right? you don't want them to behave a certain way so you threaten
doj prosecutor and both sides argued over the legality of special counsel jack smith's appointment in classified documents case. >> sandra: jillian come this is all happening soon. the hearing on evidence taken in the mar-a-lago raid. if we could tee up some of the sound we have here, this was jonathan turley if we have it, he joined us on the program yesterday and he was slamming jack smith's push for a gag order listen here. >> saying i want to gag the leading presidential...
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so, there are some things jack smith could do. he could also file a motion saying judge, you need to set a trial date or else we're going to consider filing what is called a petition for writ of mandamus in the appeals court and having the appeals court direct you to do your job and set a trial date. there are some things jack smith can do. >> glen kirschner, good to have you on the show. thank you, glenn. >>> new questions today as wikileaks founder julian assange leaves a british prison. what led to his release and what does this all mean for future cases that are similar? a live report from london is next. imilar a live report from london is next we all need fiber for our digestive health, but less than 10% of us get enough each day. good thing metamucil gummies are an easy way to get prebiotic, plant-based fiber. with the same amount of fiber as 2 cups of broccoli. metamucil gummies the easy way to get your daily fiber. (vo) if you have graves' disease, your eye symptoms could mean something more. that gritty feeling can't be
so, there are some things jack smith could do. he could also file a motion saying judge, you need to set a trial date or else we're going to consider filing what is called a petition for writ of mandamus in the appeals court and having the appeals court direct you to do your job and set a trial date. there are some things jack smith can do. >> glen kirschner, good to have you on the show. thank you, glenn. >>> new questions today as wikileaks founder julian assange leaves a...
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it means jack smith obviously has to make decisions. maybe to drop counts against some people or to find a different way to charge other people. but i think there should be no doubt that people are still being held responsible for january 6 as they should be the chief justice, john roberts, congressman, hardly mentioned the attack on the u.s. capitol in his majority and the majority opinion released today by the supreme court. what do you make of that? >> well, that doesn't really bother me too much because again, i think the chief justice, i really do trust to say, look, he's he's trying to do what he thinks is right. i mean, this is a guy that's gone liberal and conservative at different times. he's hard to predict so i think he looks at this and says it's less about bringing the idea of january 6 into this law. this is about, let's just interpret what this law is in whether the government could use this in the way that they have charged the defendants. and in my mind, that that is probably the right way to do it, kind of agnostic of
it means jack smith obviously has to make decisions. maybe to drop counts against some people or to find a different way to charge other people. but i think there should be no doubt that people are still being held responsible for january 6 as they should be the chief justice, john roberts, congressman, hardly mentioned the attack on the u.s. capitol in his majority and the majority opinion released today by the supreme court. what do you make of that? >> well, that doesn't really bother...
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i think if she does say that jack smith is improperly appointed, she'll be reversed. i think it's clear that special counsel is lawful. >> yeah. are you a little shocked to see this new york times reporting that fellow judges, even senior judges, in her jurisdiction, have been saying, hey, you know maybe i should step aside here. >> maybe this is not where you should be right now. >> i'm surprised other couple levels. first of all, i mean, judges do talk like any other colleagues at work about what do you think of this? what should i do here? probably be smart idea for judge cannon to talk to some more experienced judges were junior judges do this all the time. hey, what do you make this issue? but for multiple more senior judges to say you may be in over your head here is really unusual, but i shouldn't say if she were to step away for that reason, she's not going to that would be completely unprecedented. i mean, i've never heard of a federal judge saying i'm removing myself not because of a conflict of interests, but because i'm not up to it, that would be a very s
i think if she does say that jack smith is improperly appointed, she'll be reversed. i think it's clear that special counsel is lawful. >> yeah. are you a little shocked to see this new york times reporting that fellow judges, even senior judges, in her jurisdiction, have been saying, hey, you know maybe i should step aside here. >> maybe this is not where you should be right now. >> i'm surprised other couple levels. first of all, i mean, judges do talk like any other...
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that is what jack smith asked for. he has said, we now conferred.ording to judge cannon's ruling, included a certified statement of conferral in a statement requested by former president trump's attorneys, which is that they think that the probation department which normally would be weighing in on conditions of release, should be asked for his opinion on whether these conditions should be put into mr. trump's conditions of release and if so, how they would be enforced. jack smith already put a footnote in his motion saying, we reached out to the probation office. the probation office said that because mr. trump is out on bond, we don't have any supervised authority over him and we have nothing to say about this unless the judge ordered it. i think the next step to get to your question is will judge cannon do what the defense is asking for, what mr. trump is asking for, and order the probation office to make its own recommendation which again, you can see the delay and mr. trump's attorneys have said, we should not even have to brief the issue until
that is what jack smith asked for. he has said, we now conferred.ording to judge cannon's ruling, included a certified statement of conferral in a statement requested by former president trump's attorneys, which is that they think that the probation department which normally would be weighing in on conditions of release, should be asked for his opinion on whether these conditions should be put into mr. trump's conditions of release and if so, how they would be enforced. jack smith already put a...
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smith when jack smith recommended and was prepared to issue not one but two indictments of the former president. >> let's turn to the other hearing later today, catherine, this hearing about modifying the conditions of trump's release, aka the gag order that has been proposed by the jack smith special counsel team. what will you be watching for? >> i sort of agree with ken. because donald trump has sort of been silent. he hasn't trashed the fbi agents since the beginning, she may say, he hasn't said anything recently, so leave it alone. but he has a history. we know when trump attacks peek people publicly, the worst of his followers file suit. the judge would be in her rights to say i agree with you, special counsel, i'm going to put a partial gag order in that he cannot make any statements publicly about the law enforcement involved in this case. >> i keep thinking about how this is now the fourth potential gag order. a reminder to everybody that three other judges in three other cases have issued gag orders against the former president. how does this gag order perhaps differ and wou
smith when jack smith recommended and was prepared to issue not one but two indictments of the former president. >> let's turn to the other hearing later today, catherine, this hearing about modifying the conditions of trump's release, aka the gag order that has been proposed by the jack smith special counsel team. what will you be watching for? >> i sort of agree with ken. because donald trump has sort of been silent. he hasn't trashed the fbi agents since the beginning, she may...
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special --but jack smith can mishandle documents no problem.oe biden can handle these documents, no problem. never forget, this is the same department of justice who made david weiss the special counsel in thand half years investigating president n son and have this sweetheart deal he took to the court left out of court. he gets named special counsel. this is the same department of justice civil rights division has done nothing to address the -- this is the same department of justice who can't tell us who planted the pipe bombs on january 6, who leaked the draft the white house. in this is the same department of justice who told us in a memo from the attorney general himself that moms and dads should be investigated, same department of -- life catholics are extremists. the same department of justice who censored americans and the retaliated against whistleblowerstw who came to this committee and told us about these wrongdoings. mr. burling, we are glad you are here today. we've got lots of questions. many americans believe there is now a double
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specifically involving trump's defense team arguing the jack smith should no longer b. the special counsel wealth. these arguments to knock out special counsels have been tried in court after court, before both democratic appointed judges and republican appointed judges, they have uniformly failed. >> and i think despite judge cannon's skeptical questioning of both sides, what we know from the hearing is there is no legal basis to challenge the appointment of special counsel jack smith here there's no constitutional infirmity know regulatory infirmity. this is an example of judge cannon's typical over caution when she confronts these issues she should not have wasted a day on it. >> i'll let me get a lisa adams into this conversation. at least your former federal prosecutor, you understand what's going on. a lot better than those of us who didn't go to law school. do. judge kenneth didn't issue a ruling today? how likely is this challenge to succeed? >> i agree with norm. i think it's highly unlikely for it to succeed, at least we all hope it is because as norm also ind
specifically involving trump's defense team arguing the jack smith should no longer b. the special counsel wealth. these arguments to knock out special counsels have been tried in court after court, before both democratic appointed judges and republican appointed judges, they have uniformly failed. >> and i think despite judge cannon's skeptical questioning of both sides, what we know from the hearing is there is no legal basis to challenge the appointment of special counsel jack smith...
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jack smith, they argued his appointment was unconstitutional. fani willis, they tried to disqualify her by humiliaing her about her relationship. judge juan merchan, they tried to recuse him. judge lewis kaplan, who ruled against his businesses. they claimed alina habba claimed false allegations of a mentor/mentee relationship, she made those allegations between the judge and e. jean carroll's lawyer. judge arthur engoron -- in his business, the case against his businesses, demanded he recuse himself from the new york civil fraud case and accused him of engaging in prohibited communications. they put the lawyers on trial, the prosecutors on trial. they have been successful at dragging them through these processes. >> yeah, you know, when it comes to memes, one of my favorite ones is the lord grant me the confidence. i want the lord grand me the confidence of a mediocre trump appointed judge. that's what you get with the iline canon situation. when it comes to all the other judges that are not putting their finger on the scale for donald trump, w
jack smith, they argued his appointment was unconstitutional. fani willis, they tried to disqualify her by humiliaing her about her relationship. judge juan merchan, they tried to recuse him. judge lewis kaplan, who ruled against his businesses. they claimed alina habba claimed false allegations of a mentor/mentee relationship, she made those allegations between the judge and e. jean carroll's lawyer. judge arthur engoron -- in his business, the case against his businesses, demanded he recuse...
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jack smith to do it.up, charging with a crime and jack smith is thinking, don't tempt him with a good time because i will do it. >> what you think donald trump is pushing for that gag order to be lifted by june 27? what could he be planning to say? >> he hates it that michael cohen and stormy daniels can attack them and make fun of him and he maybe there should humiliate him and he can't anything back. is a limited gag order so he can already attack president biden and the judge but he can't attack the judge's family. i think his aim here is to go after michael cohen and stormy daniels. it frustrates him. it serves him better to have this gag order in place so that he could be a martyr. you can find race off of it to his base because nothing motivates maga mother grievance. >> but he can't talk about them because they were witnesses in the case? that's what protects them? >> correct. he does have a point. the case is over so if you're trying to protect witnesses from intimidation, they're not witnesses an
jack smith to do it.up, charging with a crime and jack smith is thinking, don't tempt him with a good time because i will do it. >> what you think donald trump is pushing for that gag order to be lifted by june 27? what could he be planning to say? >> he hates it that michael cohen and stormy daniels can attack them and make fun of him and he maybe there should humiliate him and he can't anything back. is a limited gag order so he can already attack president biden and the judge but...