. >> carley: jamail shaw's son was killed by an illegal immigrant, and we have a political strategist and state committee woman and they both join us now. vice president will be hosting extraordinary gentlemen dinners, what are those? courting black men in business, politics and culture. what do you think about this effort by the vice president? >> thank you for having me this morning. she's pandering. they are not winning the black vote. polls show biden administration is slipping as it comes to african american vote across the country. they are trying to pull out all the stops to secure a voting block they have long taken advantage of it. >> carley: yeah, the biden campaign does recognize they have a problem and they are trying to do something to fix it, they see the same polls we do. black voter support in 2020 87% compared to now, 64%. ja themail, you are a trump supporter and you are hearing from people who are not that now tell you they understand where you are coming from. >> a lot of people in 2008, when my son was murdered, a lot of people were saying i was used by the white