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joining me now is colorado secretary of state jenna griswold. madam secretary, thank you for joining me. what do you do now? >> well, as long as there is not another case, trump is disqualified from the ballot. the colorado supreme court affirmed the district court's decision that he engaged in insurrection. the fact of the matter is he incited the insurrection to try to stop the peaceful transfer of the presidency. and in the colorado supreme court has decided thought those actions are disqualifying. again, as of now he's not a qualified candidate in the state of colorado. of course the u.s. supreme court may choose to review, and i will follow whatever court order or decision is in place by the time of certification. >> i mean your deadline of when you have to decide what names to put on the ballot is january 5th, right? there's a stay on this july january 4th. can you walk me through the scenarios here if the supreme court does not decide whether it's going to review this or not by january 5th -- or sorry, i should use the latter. if the supr
joining me now is colorado secretary of state jenna griswold. madam secretary, thank you for joining me. what do you do now? >> well, as long as there is not another case, trump is disqualified from the ballot. the colorado supreme court affirmed the district court's decision that he engaged in insurrection. the fact of the matter is he incited the insurrection to try to stop the peaceful transfer of the presidency. and in the colorado supreme court has decided thought those actions are...
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we will bring in now colorado's secretary of state jenna griswold joining us by phone. secretary, you have been, obviously, in the spotlight dealing with this. but you have made it very clear from the get go of this case that your office isn't going either way, right is? it's not leaning one way or another. you are straight down the middle because that's what your job requires you to do, right? >> that's right. first off, thank you for having me on thfrmt is a big historic decision. i thought it was really important for a court to weigh in and to determine whether trump indeed had disqualified himself. look, i believe he incited the insurrection. there were big questions around section 3 of the 14th amendment in the colorado supreme court has weighed in in a very loud way, making themselves clear. >> were you surprised in any way by the result that's come out right now? this is, again, breaking news that donald trump has been disqualified from being included on the ballot in the state of colorado considering what a lot of legal experts are saying that the district judge
we will bring in now colorado's secretary of state jenna griswold joining us by phone. secretary, you have been, obviously, in the spotlight dealing with this. but you have made it very clear from the get go of this case that your office isn't going either way, right is? it's not leaning one way or another. you are straight down the middle because that's what your job requires you to do, right? >> that's right. first off, thank you for having me on thfrmt is a big historic decision. i...
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colorado secretary of state jenna griswold. >> i, of course, will follow whatever court order or decisionlace by the time that we certify the ballot. >> reporter: on the campaign trail trump's gop rivals appearing to back him in the court's decision. >> i do not believe donald trump should be prevented from being president of the united states by any court. i think he should be prevented from being president of the united states by the voters of this country. >> we don't need to have judges making these decisions, we need voters to make these decisions. >> reporter: and florida governor ron desantis, calling it abuse of judicial power, and calling on the supreme court to reverse it. voters in colorado offering mixed opinions. >> that's great, he's a crook, so good riddance. >> i think that cannot decide who i'm voting for. so because it's my own decision, it's not the court's decision who i'm voting for. >> reporter: now, poppy, it is very important to stress that this is not the final word, the supreme court here staying its decision until january 4th to allow the trump team to appeal an
colorado secretary of state jenna griswold. >> i, of course, will follow whatever court order or decisionlace by the time that we certify the ballot. >> reporter: on the campaign trail trump's gop rivals appearing to back him in the court's decision. >> i do not believe donald trump should be prevented from being president of the united states by any court. i think he should be prevented from being president of the united states by the voters of this country. >> we don't...
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i want to get reaction now from secretary of state jenna griswold, who if this ruling stands, will be in charge of enforcing it. madam secretary, you just heard paula lay out some of the questions as it pertains to this ruling and your state. what does this ruling mean for the former president and the state of colorado tonight? >> well, it's definitely a big case. the fact of the matter is the colorado supreme court has determined that donald trump did engage in insurrection and that his actions have disqualified him from being president. and i just think the gravity of that in itself is just remarkable. we've never had a president incite an insurrection and then try to run for the presidency again. we'll see if the united states supreme court weighs in. and i, of course, will follow whatever court order or decision is in place by the time that we certify the ballot. >> do you think this is allowed under state law? >> my job as secretary of state is to make sure that only qualified candidates appear on our ballot. we routinely do that with all types of candidates. and just like i woul
i want to get reaction now from secretary of state jenna griswold, who if this ruling stands, will be in charge of enforcing it. madam secretary, you just heard paula lay out some of the questions as it pertains to this ruling and your state. what does this ruling mean for the former president and the state of colorado tonight? >> well, it's definitely a big case. the fact of the matter is the colorado supreme court has determined that donald trump did engage in insurrection and that his...
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they ordered the colorado secretary of state, jenna griswold, a democrat, to remove trump's name from the ballot. they put that decision on hold. they paused it until january 4th. that is one day before colorado state law requires her to certify the list. they said they were putting that pause in place so that folks can appeal, trump can appeal all the way to the supreme court. so a historic moment here but not the final word in this case. >> good point. marshall, thank you very, very much. and in this 200-page decision that the colorado supreme court released it says, "because he is disqualified, it would be a wrongful act under the election code for the colorado secretary of state to list him as a candidate on the presidential primary ballot." very significant, indeed. i want to discuss, this is an important moment right now. the presidential historian, doug brinkley, is joining us. what's your reaction, first of all, to this moment? trump, a former united states president, a current candidate, being removed from a state's ballot? >> well, it tells you we're still living in the age
they ordered the colorado secretary of state, jenna griswold, a democrat, to remove trump's name from the ballot. they put that decision on hold. they paused it until january 4th. that is one day before colorado state law requires her to certify the list. they said they were putting that pause in place so that folks can appeal, trump can appeal all the way to the supreme court. so a historic moment here but not the final word in this case. >> good point. marshall, thank you very, very...
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joining me now is the colorado, the top election official in colorado, jenna griswold. the secretary of state of colorado, she's the chair of the democratic association of secretaries of state, she's a champion for democracy and a good friend of our show. secretary grew as well, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> we had a conversation about this very early on. you, like every secretary of state in the country who is responsible for running elections in your state, we have the same response. is that it is not likely going to end with you. in other words, while one could, on paper, so you're the final arbiter of these things, you knew full well that this could go before the courts, this has now gone before the courts two times in colorado. it's gone before the courts in new mexico, it will go before other courts as well. where do you stand right now and what has been decided? how do you move forward in colorado based on what has happened? >> well, two courts have looked at whether donald trump is disqualified and whether he engaged in insurrection. b
joining me now is the colorado, the top election official in colorado, jenna griswold. the secretary of state of colorado, she's the chair of the democratic association of secretaries of state, she's a champion for democracy and a good friend of our show. secretary grew as well, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> we had a conversation about this very early on. you, like every secretary of state in the country who is responsible for running elections in your...
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and now because jenna griswold has a statutory deadline to certify that colorado ballot by january 5thu should expect that the supreme court will be asked to intervene at least before january 4th so that they don't have to blow that deadline, and, therefore, reprint ballots, for example, in preparation of super tuesday in the event that the supreme court agrees. i don't think that the supreme court is going to agree, but i think there are a number of off ramps for them short of deciding that a president is not an officer of the united states. one of the things that could be an off-ramp for them is that the clause here prevents someone from holding office, but it doesn't say anything about running for office. it's on that ground that at least one other court, the michigan court of appeals decided that the case brought before them was not ripe right now. why? because as it stands, donald trump is merely a candidate and not actually an office holder. >> you bring up the fact that this is not the first 14th amendment case we've seen. >> certainly not. >> other states have had them and many
and now because jenna griswold has a statutory deadline to certify that colorado ballot by january 5thu should expect that the supreme court will be asked to intervene at least before january 4th so that they don't have to blow that deadline, and, therefore, reprint ballots, for example, in preparation of super tuesday in the event that the supreme court agrees. i don't think that the supreme court is going to agree, but i think there are a number of off ramps for them short of deciding that a...
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i believe it is january 5th to which jenna griswold, the secretary of state of colorado, who said whatever'll proceed with her ballots accordingly. less than a month. time is of the essence here and the stakes could not be hire. >> yeah, i mean and i also think that this is -- you know, look either the law matters or it doesn't. either insurrections are bad or they're not, right? we keep seeing trump work the rafts, right, get away with it, get special treatment. the whole idea it was an insurrection because it lasted three hours, that's madness. we know that. we've seen lower criminals in this case, you know, the people who went and stormed the capitol, those people got charged, right? it's just the people up at the top. it's just trump who continually gets sort of special rules. so i do think it's a really important moment. but trump's people will be very upset and it will cause a lot of consternation and drama, and i think it's a complicated decision. >> no one is going anywhere. ahead for us fake electors have been indicted in nevada and held accountable in wisconsin, but there's anoth
i believe it is january 5th to which jenna griswold, the secretary of state of colorado, who said whatever'll proceed with her ballots accordingly. less than a month. time is of the essence here and the stakes could not be hire. >> yeah, i mean and i also think that this is -- you know, look either the law matters or it doesn't. either insurrections are bad or they're not, right? we keep seeing trump work the rafts, right, get away with it, get special treatment. the whole idea it was an...
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before i get jenna to the battle over trump on the ballot, i'm curious what you think about the chancesappeals court upholds donald trump's immunity claim after the special counsel urged them -- if trump's immunity request goes to the supreme court, what would be the implication for his other cases? >> well, first, of thank you for having, me alex, it's always great to chat with you. what i can say is that we cannot allow donald trump to be above the law. that is exactly what he is trying to do. he is trying to be able to have judicial recognition that he can break whatever law he wants. i think we already know how dangerous he is to the country, he does not need a court to tell him he's allowed to break the law, that is already how he operates in the world. he needs to have guardrails around his actions. he has been a danger to this country since he was initially running for presidents, and when he was president he continues to be a drastic threat to our democracy, and the stability of this nation. >> it's so extraordinary, i think about the argument that's been made by his attorneys,
before i get jenna to the battle over trump on the ballot, i'm curious what you think about the chancesappeals court upholds donald trump's immunity claim after the special counsel urged them -- if trump's immunity request goes to the supreme court, what would be the implication for his other cases? >> well, first, of thank you for having, me alex, it's always great to chat with you. what i can say is that we cannot allow donald trump to be above the law. that is exactly what he is trying...