for adolf hitler to john kelly. and here you have this marine general john kelly saying, excuse me, sir. and trump's saying, well, he did a lot of good things. that's a direct quote from john kelly. what could things mr. president kelly said. he said, well, he rebuilt the german economy in, kelly would say to him, yeah, buddy then use the car, the economy to wage war against europe. and by the way, mr. president, 400,000 american gis died in that war. but it would go on and he would say that, well, hitler's generals were loyal to him. and general kelly would remind trump that wealth, actually hitler's generals tried to assassinate him, but the facts didn't matter. this was a broad admiration that his advisers say trump had four despots, for people with unlimited power, in part because in their reading of it trump imagines himself as strong as they are and deserving of that same power listen, it's americans are going to have a choice in november about the kind of leader they want. and trump's own senior advisors say

admiration for adolf hitler to john kelly. and here you have this marine general john kelly saying, excuse me, sir. and trump saying, well, he did a lot of good things. that's a direct quote from john kelly. what could things mr. president kelly said. he said, well, he rebuilt the german economy and kelly would say to him, yeah, but he then used it the the economy to wage war against europe. and by the way, mr. president 400,000 american gis died in that war. but it would go on and he would say that, well, hitler's generals were loyal to him and general kelly would remind trump that, well, actually hitler's generals tried to assassinate him, but the facts didn't matter. this was a broad odd admiration that his advisers say trump had for despots, for people with unlimited power. in part because in their reading of it, trump imagines himself as strong as they are and deserving of that same power. it's listen, it's americans are going to have a choice in november about the kind of leader they want. and trump's own one senior advi

john kelly, here is a retired marine general.mp that 400,000 americans died in war against hitler's nazi germany. he had to remind him of that. he had to in effect correct trump's imagined history here, because trump in saying that hitler did some good things, he said well, he rebuilt his economy. and kelly would say to him, yeah, he rebuilt his economy to go to war with the rest of europe, including your very own country. then he said, but his generals were loyal to him, unlike my generals, as he liked to say, you, general kelly, and others. and kelly had to correct him of that, too. well, actually, in fact mr. president, hitler's generals tried to assassinate him. so there's a consistent not just appalling admiration for hitler, we don't have to explain why that's a bad thing, but also just a misunderstanding of who hitler was and what he did, and that's something that extends to trump's praise for today's despots, whether it's xi jinping or vladimir putin or viktor orban. >> did any of these men ever consider resigning in prot

for adolf hitler to john kelly. and here you have this marine general john kelly saying, excuse me, sir. and trump's saying, well, he did a lot of good things. that's a direct quote from john kelly. what could things mr. president kelly said. he said, well, he rebuilt the german economy kelly would say to him, yeah, buddy, then use the economy to wage war against europe. and by the way, mr. president, 400,000 american gis died in that war. but it would go on and he would say that, well, hitler's generals were loyal to him. and general kelly would remind trump that, well, actually hitler's generals tried to assassinate him but the facts didn't matter. this was a broad admiration that his advisers say trump had for despots, for people with unlimited power. in part because in their reading of it, trump imagines himself as strong as they are and deserving of that same power. it's listen, it's americans are gonna have a choice in november about the kind of leader they want. and trump's own senior advisors say, this is th

john kelly, john bolton, others, they say quite openly, he's a danger to the country. i mean, they've said this publicly. john kelly had a long conversation with him about how trump express praise for hitler while in office and he was just flabbergasted that this was even possible. so those folks won't go within a mile of the white house. do i believe that trump will attempt to get big names there to, to scare emojis point. i absolutely believe it it's a question as to who would take that job at this point, particularly folks who have direct experience of working with him with his decision-making and decision-making. we've just described here, because if you're a big name, and you go in and you're running the pentagon under a donald trump presidency. i mean, what does that look like if, if he pulls out of nato, which is what these officials tell you is a really big concern. >> no question. by the way, congress has passed legislation, as you know, that acquires congressional approval to leave nato. >> but the point that congress is so good to standing up exactly. >> the

do you ever recall john kelly relate these kinds of stories about trump? >> well look, i'd never heard trump personally mentioned hitler, but i don't doubt jim's reporting for a second in its certainly strikes me as making a whole lot of sense that my former boss, john kelly, would have lamented trump talking about hitler. in fact, kelly had one said to me before in his view, quote trump trump was a very, very evil man. and that was in part because of the types of people he praised, which in particular was autocrats. trump really had a deep affinity for autocratic leaders, whether it was vladimir putin or zhizhen ping and russia or kim jong un in north korea, he lauded these individuals who had extraordinary power and the power to enforce their edicts. this was pretty chilling to john kelly, to myself, really to anyone who would witness trump, the leader of the free world, regularly prays, despots. that was something that became a pretty consistent care perked her flaw that folks witness with donald trump. and so abby, it doesn't strike me as shocking at a

. >> i mentioned john kelly, who was the former president's chief of staff, defense secretary, james mannose. they've been very forceful and speaking out against donald trump john kelly told jim sciutto, even that trump has something positive to say about hitler he said we, well, but hitler did some good things. i said, well what and he said, well, hitler rebuilt the economy, but what did he do with that rebuilt economy? he turned it against his own people and against the world said, sir, you can never say anything good about the guy. nothing is someone like him, john kelly, a person who you can get into your new tribe as you call it yeah, i, think so. >> look, i think it is critically important that the country here from the former trump officials who are sounding the alarm about how on vent donald trump is to serve. and i think there's some people, so john kelly has made some striking comments and it's incredibly noted scribble that donald trump's own vice president, who served with him is not going to endorse him this time, but we need to hear from jim madness. we need to hear fro

from trump and from the generals he admires and his former chief of staff john kelly says as much. himself as a strong leader paralyzed only by the strength shown by the putin's and the cams in the xi jinping's of the world and this is based on nothing because he said in fact in his time under trump, he saw no evidence of the strength or confidence but the trouble is, he does admire the extent of the power, when he does not want to be checked by congress. he does not want to be checked by the courts. he imagines he deserves in effect, unfettered power, to the point, and i'm just amazed that we are talking about this but it is fact. it is coming from someone who was in the room with him when he uttered these words, that he repeatedly praised adolf hitler and said that he did some good things, to which john kelly says what the things? he said well, he rebuilt the economy. >> to then wage war against europe. he's as well, his generals were loyal to him, unlike generals like you, general kelly and general kelly had to say to him one, his generals tried to assassinate him, but the thing

john kelly said so on the record, trump said hitler did some good things. he admired the loyalty of hitler's generals, it is amazing to be hearing that, it is a first-hand account of what the current gop nominee for president thinks. >> what the republicans think about all of this? even if they by trump was only talking about the auto industry, they remember when he told the proud boys to standby. are they buying this? we do not know if anybody is cutting him a check. >> we know there is a money problem and we know that he is having high donor problems. so across the board, republicans are at a huge disadvantage financially. that is always a reflection of what the donor class thinks about their candidate so you know there is anxiety going on and of a lot of it of course has to be that the donors are looking at a lot of the public policy announcements like carrots and asking what are you talking about? that is the reason i became a republican because of free trade and this guy is talking about 100% trade tariffs and i will not give them a check if that is wh

the retired general john kelly and security advisor john bolton. and -- . when they look for a single thread through his foreign policy which they have difficulty defining, the one common thing is self-interest. john bolton said it is only words. he looks for what serves his own interest whether that be financial or political or his own judgment. this is an issue that extends to all of the challenges facing the u.s. right now. you cannot find a core philosophy behind it. >> is adoration for pinging kim jong un and his imagination purely through force of personality and ability as a negotiator that he could somehow get a better deal for the country when the factors those countries, have none of america's interest at heart. again, keep in mind, as i speak about this, it is not my assessment, it is the own former advisors assessment. >> liz cheney put it this way. she said is it a coincidence that he took over and installed his daughter-in-law as the cochair at the same time he has become desperate for money and cannot post bond. what is the rest of the party

and now john kelly in a book by one of your colleagues, is talking about how much he reveres hitler. i mean, you know, the choice is a pretty clear about what direction we should be going into this country. >> mitch landrieu, if you come out, is that running mate? i'm going to call you. thanks so much for joining us tonight. >> up fleet, something like god thank you. >> anderson, back to you again over on the republican side, the foreign president waiting for polls to close the washington state, which is expected to put them over the top soon as kristen holmes has been talking to her sources in trump world joins us now is what are you learning about the strategy for this campaign moving forward? >> well, anderson, look, leaving, acting as though donald trump is the nominee now for several weeks, a lot of this is trying to talk about how they're going to build out their strategy and their ground game in those critical battleground states, we're talking about georgia, michigan, arizona, and nevada. but the other part of this is really learning how to navigate with these legal issues. a

according to john kelly, in private, how do i put this delicately? trump loves hitler.l, hitler did some good things." and the category is, phrases that should end your candidacy and/or birthday party. can i see "hitler did some good things"? it is number one answer! let's see the rest. "yum yum human flesh!" and "i am rfk jr." now, kelly bravely asked trump which good things hitler did, and trump responded "well, hitler rebuilt the economy." "and that's the end of his story, as far as i know. only read the first half of the book. love the mein, never got through the kampf." really? [applause] no, no, no. no, i don't want your pity. kelly had to give trump a bit of a history lesson. after trump expressed admiration for hitler's military staff's "loyalty," kelly pointed out to him the german generals as a group were not loyal to him, and in fact tried to assassinate him a ew times. trump didn't know that. "really? so it turns out the nazis had a bit of a dark side"? very hard to take this seriously. trump also loves the modern-day strongmen. according to bolton, trump li

it was something he said to john kelly and john kelly shot down the idea because he knew that this would patently be illegal for trump to try to find a way to wiretap his staff. people wrote it off as well maybe trump is just saying he wants to find people who are illegally leaking classified information. you're kidding me. he wanted to wiretap staff to make sure they're loyal. this man, if he's president again, will implement those loyalty tests up and down the stack. >> i don't think you're crazy at all because these people are essentially american bolshevics and stalin didn't allow people to listen to jazz because he thought it would put liberal ideas in their head. i'm sure they think of taylor swift the same way. not only that, but the loyalty is required because disloyalty, they've made clear, will be punished using the insurrection act. i want to point you to a white house lawyer who has new detailings. he warns jeffrey clark there will be riots in every major city if trump reversed the outcome of the election. this is back in 2020. clark responded, well, pat, that's what the insu

john kelly said, what?o wage war against the world he says his generals were loyal, unlike you. general kelly had to say, his generals tried to assassinate him. this is a man who does not base his views on fact but how he feels. >> or history, apparently. the suppression of opposition is clearly a part of the tactics of authoritarian leaders and dictators. earlier today, donald trump was asked if putin was responsible for the death of his opposition leader, recently died in russia , i want to get your thoughts on this. >> do you believe putin has responsibility for that death? >> i don't know, perhaps, possibly, i could say probably. i don't know. >> it is not a partisan thing to have watched his activism and the actions of putin to think he had a role. what were your thoughts ? >> the most consistent foreign- policy position one can say with donald trump is his refusal to criticize putin , going back to the helsinki moment, refusing to take u.s. intelligence communities assessment that rush interfered with

what you make of those comments from john kelly? >> it kind of harkens back to trump saying that he can do whatever he wants. he has no interest in our institutions, our democracy. all he wants is power and the tragedy is that what made him possible the first term and what makes him still viable is that so many people i serve with on the republican side of the aisle also as it turns out, all they care about is power, too. and notwithstanding that they think he is a danger, unethical, moral. they will line up behind him. they lined up behind him before. mitch mcconnell said basically there were other remedies. like prosecution lined up again. all it is is about power. this is what has our democracy hanging by a thread. >> it's so sad to watch. i hope you will stick around for one more block. we have a 62nd break and we will be right back after that. . s s side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in

you mentioned john kelly.who stood and the way of trump's first and policies. and what we've seen for the studies you have a side, the reporting on, them is not only authority to oppose the government to pursue his enemies but to get rid of all of the people who are in place who would function as guardrails against him doing so. whether it is installing loyalists at the head of the department of justice or the fbi or theodore meant to, faints to the men's firing of senior executives across the government to replace them with people loyal specifically to him. i think the right and scope of what trump in a second administration flour outpaces anything we saw during his first administration. >> former trump white house aides are sounding the alarm about what this trump to put a may look like. let's play some of that for you, peter, then we'll talk on the other side. >> he's been saying things like calling for the execution of mentally. he said he wants to do away with part of the constitution. he said he wants to

it is true and best expressed by an anecdote often linked to old honest john kelly. apparently, in 1879 at the dedication of assistant st. patrick's cathedral in new york, kelly rose up -- just so you know, he was married to the niece of new york's cardinal archbishop mccloskey. [laughter] so there's a family connection there. kelly, according to the story, apparently kind of raised his glass at this dinner after the dedication of the cathedral. he raised his glass and said god bless the two greatest organizations in the world, the catholic church and tammany hall. brief pause. person next to him, what's the second one? [laughter] they are one. and, again, most people at the time, certainly most irish catholics at the time would have no problem with that. again, irish supported tammany because tammany supported them in any number of ways. it was often the difference between life and death for the poor of new york. and, again, what are your options when you look at power, who do you turn to for help? do you turn to tammany hall, however much these people may enrich th

john kelly retired marine corps general who served with mr.ibed him as a person that has no idea what america stands for, has no idea what america is all about, a person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. that's a staunch assessment from two people who served alongside him as to the values of donald trump. why do you think this represents your vision for america? >> i think one of the things -- look, i respect general kelly and secretary mattis tremendously, i think the key, though, margaret, is to look at the record and the record of what a trump administration working with republicans did in terms of foreign policy was dramatically stronger and focused on our allies and the obama administration, the obama-biden administration, and let me give you a couple examples -- >> you remember why mattis resigned. >> i remember why mattis resigned. i will give you an example in terms of russia particularly, you remember, president -- the biden -- obama-biden administration was providing them mres after the invasion of crimea. what did the t

kelly, quien entonces era el jefe del comando sur de estados unidos.y el ejército para apoyar a cárteles de droga durante su mandato. de 2014 a 2022, negó también haber conspirado junto a su hermano tony hernández, quien cumple cadena perpetua por narcotráfico . ana garcía, su esposa, dijo que las mentiras, conspiraciones y las trampas de sus enemigos saldrán a la luz, mientras que una de sus hijas también lo apoyó diciendo que la justicia y la verdad prevalecerán. pero para hondureños que se han manifestado afuera de la corte, a lo largo del juicio que inició a finales de febrero, juan orlando hernández es culpable y debe cumplir cadena perpetua el día de mañana. está previsto que se lleven a cabo los argumentos de clausura para que el jurado pueda decidir cuál será el futuro del exmandatario hondureño en nueva york. karla amezola noticias. telemundo y esta es una buena noticia. esta mañana se graduaron los astronautas candidatos a participar en el programa artemis y entre ellos hay un hispano. es mark gabriel berríos, de origen puertorriqueño. Él tie

and to the credit of john kelly and john bolton, they have both spoken before, john bolton wrote a book right. >> where he writes about his persons during impeachment one. they went beyond trump's perversion of u.s. policy, with ukraine, writings concerns that u.s. foreign policy when it came to turkey had also been corrupted. and general kelly said he describes trump as the most disturbed person he's seen. and trump's former advisers say he most consistently lavished praise on russian president vladimir putin. john bolton recalls a comment from trump from the nato summit. following nato leaders meeting, said the adversary quote may be the easiest of all. he said to the press as he goes to the hospital i think the easiest meeting would be with vladimir putin. who would think that? john bolton, there's only one person, they're big guys, i wish i could act like they do. we have all of the pieces now, charlie sykes, i guess at one point this stops being a trump story and starts being a biden story? >> well, this will never be surreal. i think that's the main point. it's not just that donal

." >> he was chief of staff but what do you make of those comments from john kelly? >>ly this harkens back to trump is a saying that he can do what he wants. all he wants is power. the tragedy is that what has made him possible the first term and what makes him still viable is some of the people i serve with on the republican side of the aisle also as it turns out only care about is power too. notwithstanding that they think he is a danger or ethical -- unethical or unmoral. mitch mcconnell who said sa basically said he wouldn't impeach because there are other remedies, all it is is about power and this is what has our democracy hanging by a thread. >> thank you. we are sneaking in a 62nd break and we will be right back. rig. shingles. some describe it as an intense burning sensation, or an unbearable itch. this painful, blistering rash can disrupt your life for weeks and could make it hard to be there for your loved ones. shingles could also lead to serious complications that can last for years. if you're over 50, the virus that causes shingles is likely already ins

you think about john kelly telling jim sciutto about the hitler comments. and hitler did some good things according to john kelly, that's what the former president said. >> it didn't nobody seem to care. i mean in any other time, this would have been just unbelievable. >> there's an enormous vault for a couple of things i would say about that. there's been an enormous volume of information about things that donald trump said as president, things that he said in his past. we have talked about it here. we've written about it at the new york times times, that, that piece of information actually first appeared in a book by my colleague mike bender. and so at some of these things have been around so long that i actually think that the public has gotten almost numb to them. and i think that that is for people who don't like the former president. that is part of their challenge. if you look back at the reporting around the muller report and we wrote about this at the time there was so much reporting that went into this investigation. and what was happening with th

there would be no john kelly in the white house next time. it would only be true believers. there would not be guardrails, and i think he'd lean into the strong men tendencies, joe and mika. >> we can call it sick and disgusting, but the reality is, this is unbelievably dangerous for our country. somebody like donald trump who does what donald trump does, says what donald trump says, has done what he's done as president of the united states would be, in normal times, shunned. shunned completely politically or personally. in this case, you have people showing up at mar-a-lago and clapping and hooting and going to his rallies. you can't cast them off as uninformed or there for the show. if you read madeleine albright's book on fascism or any books on the rise of dictatorships, this is how it happens. >> well, you look at vaughn hillyard's interview, willie, with people who were in a rally last week, and, you know, i've been wondering, what do they think when he says he is going to be a dictator from day one? what do they think when he says he can execute with s.e.a.l. team six

in a new book, john kelly tells the story. he said hitler did some good things and i said what and he said hitler rebuilt the economy and i said you can never say anything good about a guy. nothing. he recounted that trump expressed aberration for hitler's hold on senior officers. he would ask about loyalty issues and how when i pointed out the german generals as a group, were not loyal and in fact tried to assassinate him ai few times and he didn't know that. after visiting with him on friday, the hungarian prime minister said trump will not give up any in the ukrainian/russian war. it is obvious that ukraine cannot stand on its own feet if americans don't give money and weapons, along with the europeans than the war is over. the same thing was true euof britain when hitler invaded all of western europe and after conquering france was determined too soon to have troops marching into london the way they marched into paris. the only way the british survived is with military supplies delivered to them by the president of the uni

it seems to be a number of things for one, general kelly, john bolton, and others describe how trump does envy their power. he would like it to be, he would like to be a leader who could do whatever he wants by fiat. and several times during his first administration, they do explain to him we're almost like explaining to a child who didn't take civics that the president has to go through congress for instance, spend money or has to tell congress if he is going to do things like shoot down an iranian missile. i tell the story of that in the book how he wanted to do that without really telling anybody. so partly it is envy of that power and a fundamental lack of understanding standing of the us system. but it's also that trump feels and affinity for these leaders. he feels that by pure force of his personality, he could charm kim or putin, or xi, or others into doing what he wants, which is also a fundamental misunderstanding because russia and china, by all accounts, even as don't advisers, but us intelligence, our allies, our allies in asia and europe they don't want good for the us,

it seems to be a number of things for one, general kelly, john bolton, and others describe how trump does envy their power. he would like it to be, he would like to be a leader who could do whatever he wants by fiat. and several times during his first administration, they do explain to him almost like explaining to a child who didn't take civics that the president has to go through congress for instance, spend money or has to tell congress if he is going to do things like shoot down an iranian missile. i tell the story of that in a book how he wanted to do that without really telling anybody. so partly it is envy of that power and a fundamental lack of under standing of the us system. but it's also that trump feels and affinity for these leaders. he feels that by pure force of his personality, he could charm kim or putin, or xi, or others into doing what he wants, which is also a fundamental misunderstanding because russia and china, by all accounts, even as don't advisers, but us intelligence, our allies, our allies in asia and europe they don't want good for the us, the leaders of

john kelly, trump's former chief of staff, told cnn's jump she toe for a new book, quote, a second termp particularly when he would not worry about re-election, it would be fundamentally a catastrophe more us. john bolton, trump's former national security adviser also told the cnn reporter, i just don't think he has enough of a brain to have an articulated view on u.s./chinese policy because he thinks of everything through the prism of how does this benefit donald trump. bill barr who served as attorney jen val called trump a consummate narcissist who continue yuli engages in in bad conduct and said i have made clear i strongly oppose trump for the nomination and will not endorse trump. and former secretary mark esper has also spoken out against trump telling cbs news last year, i have a lot of concerns about donald trump. i have said he's a threat to democracy. i think the last year, certain will i the last few months of donald trump's presidency will look like the first few months of the next one, if that were to occur. also during his speech on saturday, trump seemed to claim twice t

explain. >> well, i think that in the first term you had people of good character like john kelly, jim mattis, john bolton, the list goes on, who weren't enabling him. they were pushing back on trump's worst instincts. but we've seen that trump has said that in a second term he wants to wipe out some of these government agencies and install trump loyalists who will carry out every demand of his. that means this will be filled with yes men and women who will not push back on him, and they're going to be sycophants. so that is concerning to me that we would have a government staffed of people like that, not people. good character because -- people of good character because competency and experience would not matter it would be about loyalty to trump. >> one of those people is -- one of those agencies is the intelligence community. and sue gordon was on this program this week. here she is sort of entering territory that i think is uncomfortable for her, the political arena, political choices she's made. here she is talking about exactly who trump is and the danger that he poses to the int

we heard from mike pence, john kelly. nikki haley. so, tell me about this.h this guy even if he wins again. and it is not affecting him at the base. >> well that's right. this is a party in some ways that is the captive of its base. and you see that for the rationale some of the senior republicans like mitch mcconnell who have essentially thrown away their principles and gone ahead and endorsed donald trump. saying what could i do? the voters support him. i have heard that from senators, republican senators who in public are pro trump who have acknowledged to me and to other journalists privately, look, you know, what am i supposed to do? this guy runs ten, 20 points ahead of me. in my own state with my own voters. so i think you see a republican party that almost hostage to a subset of its own electorate. that is number one. number two, it shows you that there is no such thing as a kind of elder statesman in this day and age. basically, the party doesn't care what those authority figures think. >> one of the things you write about here is the lies. and most

like former chief of staff john kelly saying that trump is a person who admires autocrats and murderous but contempt for our democratic institutions, our constitution and the rule of law. or former national security adviser h.r. mcmaster saying after january 6th that trump and other officials have repeatedly compromised our principles in pursuit of partisan advantage and personal gain. as friend of the show tim miller asks of those who will be voting for trump this time around, why do you think you know him better than those who saw him up close? the bulwark reiterated the magnitude of pence's decision not to endorse his former running mate. quote, no american vice president has ever said that about his boss, is unfit to serve. it is the most devastating possible observation from the first -- from the most credible source in existence. pence's refusal to endorse trump should be part of the context of every single story about this campaign. and that is where we start this hour, with princeton university professor and political scholar eddie glaude. plus with me here at the table, opinion

this is a guy with a fondness for hitler, according to john kelly.lottesville. he would turn on jew's in a second if it was in his interest. he doesn't care about israel. he cares about donald trump. and how dare you tell me what it takes to be a good jew or not. >> there's no doubt how deeply offensive these comments were. but as we just read, this is not new. this is something he has done for a long time. he has revealed himself to have these biases, these prejudices, and to defend those who have done and equable things, like in the wake of charlottesville as we played that clip a moment ago. but yet -- but yet nothing he says seems to chait's core supporters. more than that, nothing he says seems to draw criticism from high-ranking republicans who are trying to cling to power on capitol hill and elsewhere. >> they just -- i mean, there is -- i remember earlier in the hour, you were talking about when he came down the escalator in 2015 and at the end of that campaign, i spoke with a consultant from one of the losing republican primary campaigns, an

. >> former white house chief of staff john kelly said the former president once told him hitler did some good things. the presumptive nominee already tried to overturn the results of an election once before, despite his attempts to weaken the government, we have a democracy, for now, but if trump is able to power and control for a second time, can he let go of it again? >> joining me is molly hast, and jennifer ruben, the author of resistance, how women save democracy from donald trump. none of this changes. our want our viewers to understand this is not the repeat of the program six months ago when donald trump said racist things about people, but he continues to do it, and people continue to support him for it, and the republican party continues to fall in line, and it is necessary to understand what his frame of mind is for the next time he becomes president, if he succeeds. >> that's right. they love him because he does it. they don't love him in spite of it. he created the movement that is fascist. when he says the january 6th convicted criminals are hostages, he's talking to t

your mike pence john kelly mark milley, john bolton, mark esper. these were all people who were in the trump administration and now disavow former president trump's. so you've got a very different kettle of fish are between biden, who has former president's reuse, able to campaign with, and what trump had. >> i was hoping w would come out of the floor. i was waiting for i was like w is showing my feeling kinda swinging and >> former president want to pick up on those question of predecessors? reportedly, obama was in the white house last week for several hours talking hard tax campaign strategy with the biden team how smart do you think it is or do you think that really is going to help for biden to hit shop to the degree possible with obama and clinton i kind of agree with lou in the sense that biden's brand is still, i mean, i agree is pull numbers are going up, but like his brand is still pretty weak attaching yourself >> to more popular brands, make sense. and even broader than that. i mean, you look at the surrogates that trump has available t

and you are right about people like the former chief of staff john kelly or bill barr or people who saw trump up close. they were in the room where it happened and the warnings they have already given about donald trump. you believe they can do more? >> absolutely. i think they are critical that if they join together and go around the country or cut ads or appear on news programs as a unit, i think it would make a big difference. i think one of the other is certainly helpful. i don't want to diminish that. frankly, the media's the tension gets called when there is something very unusual or distinguished or very traumatic. that is what i think it would be if they came forward. in particular, i think they need to testify, not only to his bad judgment or his policy insanity and moral character, but the fact that he is mentally incapable of conducting the job. many of them have said that he is incapable. for example, of putting others first. he is incapable of doing complex tasks and incapable of understanding anything more detailed than something on an index card. they need to show that to

john kelly, do you think this is why trump is turning to such crooked figures?who at one point, the rest of us thought were going to be the adults in the room are abandoning trump. >> he doesn't want adults in the room. he doesn't want guardrails. this is jurassic park, test the fences. he did that. he tested the fences and guess what? he now knows where all the weak points are. so you bring in all of the criminals that are going to do your bidding on top of the fact that you have the heritage foundation's project 2025. 20,000 other people waiting to take over these agencies and gut them out from the inside out. this is what this man wants. people have to understand, he is ten times more dangerous than he was in 2016. than he was in 2020. and with all of these people around him, all they have to do is have their little pardon pockets, pocket squares. and they are good to go. they will do whatever he says, knowing that there is a pardon that will come their way. >> absolutely. very good point. let me get your thoughts on something else which is almost a head scra

so we just heard from mike pence, john kelly, mark esper, rick tillerson, h.r. mcmaster.gain. yet it's not affecting him at the base? >> well, that's right. i mean this is a party in some ways that is a captive and you'll see that for the rational and some of the senior republicans like mitch mcconnell who have essentially thrown away their principles and gone ahead and endorsed donald trump. and who have acknowledged privately, look, what am i suppose to do? they run 10, 20 ahead of me with my own voter. so i think you see the party that is almost hostage to a subset of its own electric. that's number one. number two, they will show you there is no such thing as an elder statesman in this day in age and basically the party doesn't care what those authority figures think. >> and one of the things that you'll write about here are the lies. and most people just tap them on their streets and talk about the election denial and there were over things. you write something interesting and the platform is being built on lies. not just the old familiar lies about the rigged electi

the former trump chief of staff, john kelly, who says trump has no idea what america stands for. his former acting chief of staff, mick mulvaney i quit because i think he he failed at being the president when we needed him to be that >> and his former joint chiefs chairman mark milley we don't take an oath to a king or queen. what a tyrant or a dictator. and we don't take an oath to a wanna be dictator and there are others, quite a few more, in fact, but pants today gave his reasons and they aren't just about how >> trump put his life at risk on january 6, during my presidential campaign, i made it clear that there were profound differences between me and president trump on a range of issues not just are difference on my constitutional duties that i exercised on january the six donald trump is pursuing an articulating an agenda that is at odds with the conservative agenda that we governed on to hear him say that out loud and pair it with pence's refusal to endorse trump it. it is nothing short of extraordinary. >> but >> notice what all of these people have in common. every one o

newly published comments former trump chief of staff john kelly said my fear theory on why trump likesrs so much is that is who he is. it is from a new book by cnn's jim sciutto which contained several interviews with ex- trump advisors. and one kelly elaborates on trumps admiration for adolf hitler. trump said well but hitler did some good things. i said well what? and he said well hitler rebuilt the economy. and i said, sir you could never say anything good about the guy. nothing. kelly also reportedly saying trump envied the loyalty that officers had for hitler. he would ask about the loyalty issues. i pointed out to him the german generals of the group were not loyal to him and in fact tried to assassinate him a few times. and trump did not know that. all of this emerging as trump promises to be a dictator on day one if he wins reelection. joining me is samantha a veteran of the department of homeland security. she has worked in the biden obama and george w. bush administrations. michelle goldberg new york times columnist and msnbc political analyst. thanks to both of you for being

kelly, trump's former white house chief of staff, as saying that trump wants praised adolf hitler. kelly saying, quote, he said, well, but hitler did some good things. i said, well what? and he said, well, hitler rebuilt the economy. i said, sir, you can never for say anything good about the guy. nothing in 2021, a spokeswoman for trump denied that he had praised hitler as president. trump also failed to counter anti-semitic hatred, like after white supremacist violent rallies in charlottesville >> you also had people that were very fine, people on both sides. >> but as president trump did take actions that were very beneficial to israel, like moving the us embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem and he's often spoken glowingly about his daughter, ivanka, who converted to judaism and his jewish grandchildren why would he make those comments about jewish voters now, the bet is that the jewish mode has been so resoundingly pro biden and pro-democratic i like that even weakening it just a little bit in a really close election could make a difference >> today. second gentleman, doug emhoff,

kelly and giamatti's tonight, trump team is saying essentially to president biden, anything that he could do, they can do better claiming that they are going to outraised the president to the tune $33 in one night next week at mar-a-lago as trump would often say, we'll see what happens there. joining me tonight, david al-qahera, chief strategist for the obama presidential campaigns, and a senior advisor to him. and the white house and david, i know you've been critical of some of president biden's campaign choices, the reelection efforts. so far. but, but for a big event like this, would this kind of energy three presidents there on one room, what kind of impact do you think it has >> well, i think you put your finger on the biggest impact caitlin you raise 25 million in one that's a good night. take for you >> i mean >> the advantage that joe biden has cash and his ability to raise money has a tremendous advantage in, as you known as you've reported he's not having to hive off money for legal expenses as trump his campaign. so this gives him a chance to raise money for the six or s

chief of staff john kelly tells jim trump, even praised hitler. he said, well, but hitler did some good things. i said, well, what? and he said, well, hitler rebuild the economy. but what did he do with that? rebuilt economy. he turned it against his own people and against the world. and i said, sir, you can never say anything good about the guy. nothing alec trump camp pain spokesman did respond by attacking kelly emboldened personally, saying they need to seek professional help because their hatred is consuming. they're empty, lives are excellent. panel is back. >> what is you run the campaign >> trail a lot when nikki haley, she attacked donald trump for his praise of of autocrats, strong man, he doesn't pretty openly that didn't seem to work within the republican primary. what did you hear on the campaign trail about trump's comments and whether they actually people were concerned about it or not at all. >> it didn't work at all. i mean, i'm thinking of around valentine's day, her campaign put out kind of a joking love letter from trump to dic

we've seen people like jim madness, john kelly, mark esper be very critical of donald trump in recent months but this is his vice president, this is his number two. this is the guy who kind of gave these evangelical, very conservative republicans the permission structure to come on board with trump during his presidency and in the 2016 campaign. i also think it's important to look at a lot of these other republicans who were reluctant to go with trump and then came around the mcconnell's, the moon's. chris sununu they said, well, i have to endorse him now because he's the nominee better than joe biden pence took a very different approach to that. he's saying no, i don't have to endorse him because i'm a republican. i'm a conservative first less than he's not conservative eye exam a look, there are people who are in that camp. one of them is senator mitt romney, who i caught up with this week about the fact that donald trump met recently with a hungarian leader's strongman, viktor orban, p-r-e-p, praised or bought and it's that kind of thing that concerns republicans like romney well,

and that's why people like mike pence, bill barr, john kelly, people have worked for him side-by-side side >> have now said he is not fit to run the country and the right. >> all right, guys, thanks a lot. i know we're going to have this spirit discussion time and again, really appreciate it. thanks a lot all right. right. now we have big development. pennsylvania man who was exonerated in november, more than 12 years ago, cj rice was sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison for attempted murder in a 2011 shooting. last year, a judge found that his trial counsel rendered ineffective assistance and had said that pennsylvania had 180 days to decide whether to retry him or free cnn's jake tapper has been bringing awareness to the story, joins me now from philadelphia with this but very big development, jake, what can you tell us >> hey gem? so i'm outside the criminal justice center in downtown philadelphia. just got out of room 805. that's the courtroom where judge james eisenhower granted the motion to by the district attorney, larry krasner, to drop all charges against cj rice. cj rice i

kelly recently disclosed that trump told >> him in the white house that he thought hitler did some good things hitler quote did some good things joining us now is the ceo of the american jewish committee, ted deutsch is a former democratic congressman from florida tech. thanks very much for joining us. let me get your quick reaction. first of all, to these latest trump comments look at this moment when the jewish community feels so very much at risk, it >> is dangerous and it's divisive to bring the jewish community into a debate in a way that tells them what they believe, how they behave as jews how they feel about israel. this is a moment again, where in every part of the country and all around the world, the jewish community is really facing dramatically increasing anti-semitism and where israel is fighting for its survival. as this political season moves forward, i hope that both president the trump and president biden, and every political candidate running for office will understand that the jewish community should not be used in some political purpose and that in fact, wolff, the

kelly, trump's former white house chief of staff as saying that trump wants praised adolf hitler. kelly saying, quote, he said, well, but hitler did some good things. i said, well, what? and he said, well, hitler rebuilt the economy. i said, sir, you can never say anything good about the guy. nothing. in 2021, a spokeswoman for trump denied that he had praised hitler as president. trump also failed to counter anti-semitic hatred like after white supremacist violent rallies in charlottesville >> you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. >> but as president trump did take actions that were very beneficial to israel, like moving the us embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem and he's often spoken glowingly about his daughter, ivanka, who converted to judaism and his jewish grandchildren why would he make those comments about jewish voters now, the bat is that the jewish mode has been so resoundingly pro biden and produce democratic that even weakening it just a little bit in really close election could make a difference >> today. second gentleman, doug emhoff, accordin

kelly who have his course, chief of staff, to trump in his first administration, he said to me a second i can turn with him trump, particularly when he would not be worrying about reelection. it would be fundamentally a catastrophe for us. he is not alone. i also spoke to john bolton, who of course, was his national security advisor, longtime, lifetime lifelong republican. he said, i just don't think he has enough of a brain. again, here his words direct coat quote, to have an articulated view on us, china policy because he thinks everything through the prism of how does this benefit donald trump. nato would be in real jeopardy. i think he would try to get out. they say that he will reengineer america's relationships with its adversaries. china russia, friendlier, and also walk away from decades old partnerships alliances with nato, also, south korea, japan, us allies in asia, and they've told me he has no interest in a second term of defending taiwan from a potential us invasion, chinese invasion rather, it'd be a mark turn it would be, it would be seismic. all right. jim sciutto. than

we've seen people like jim madness, john kelly, mark esper be very critical of donald trump in recent months but this is his vice president, this is his number two. this is the guy who kind of gave these evangelical, very conservative republicans the permission structure to come on board with trump during his presidency and in the 2016 campaign. i also think it's important to look at a lot of these other republicans who were reluctant to go with trump and then came around the mcconnell's, the wounds of chris sununu they said, well, i have to endorse him now because he's the nominee better than joe biden pens took a very different approach to that. he's saying no, i don't have to endorse him because i'm a republican. i'm a conservative first it's then he's not conservative. >> the exit and look, there are people who are in that camp. one of them is senator mitt romney, who i caught up with this week about the fact that donald trump met recently with the hungarian leader's strongman, viktor orban, p-r-e-p, praised or bought and it's that kind of thing that concerns republicans like romn