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how it was run by judge kaplan. how those jurors were selected by the lawyers for donald trump and e. jean carroll because within that jury room they have selected a foreperson amongst those jurors. they are now going through the process of walking through that verdict form that lisa referenced but deliberating amongst each other and that includes ideas about the credibility of the witnesses that testified including the expert witness on behalf of e. jean carroll but the other important thing here, you have to look at the makeup of this jury. there are more men than women on a jury and a lot of times when you're picking a jury especially when it comes to a case like this you may say to yourself maybe we should have had more women on a jury and yet it's interesting, because the tact that was taken by donald trump through alina habba was to basically victim shame and blame e. jean carroll, literally the theme in closing arguments was she asked for it. my gosh, haven't we heard that before especially in criminal cases
how it was run by judge kaplan. how those jurors were selected by the lawyers for donald trump and e. jean carroll because within that jury room they have selected a foreperson amongst those jurors. they are now going through the process of walking through that verdict form that lisa referenced but deliberating amongst each other and that includes ideas about the credibility of the witnesses that testified including the expert witness on behalf of e. jean carroll but the other important thing...
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judge kaplan did that. he ruled there are a host of topics that donald trump is not allowed to testify. not just donald trump, no one in the courtroom because this is just about damages. and so when donald trump just in court minutes ago said i don't know who this woman s never met this woman. that's a defamatory statement found to be knowingly false at the last trial. he's not allowed to make that statement in front of the jury and he just made it before the jury entered so i have no confidence that he is going to actually follow the judge's ruling. as a lawyer, you have to tell your client to follow what the judge says. i agree with vaughn, i think he wants to get up there. i don't think he cares about the damages because i don't think he thinks he's going to pay them. his end game is to win the presidency and all of this is going to go away. which is not how it works, but that's in his mind what he thinks, and this is about campaigning for him. he's looking at this as an opportunity to make another campa
judge kaplan did that. he ruled there are a host of topics that donald trump is not allowed to testify. not just donald trump, no one in the courtroom because this is just about damages. and so when donald trump just in court minutes ago said i don't know who this woman s never met this woman. that's a defamatory statement found to be knowingly false at the last trial. he's not allowed to make that statement in front of the jury and he just made it before the jury entered so i have no...
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he was being judge kaplan. one of the things i think a judge has to do is have decorum and seriousness in the courtroom. as faith knows, when your prosecutor, one of the things you want is that sense of seriousness and levity and what it means to be in a court of law, whether it's a civil case or a criminal case. that, in many ways, then feeds off what shawn crowley can say about this is not a press conference. this is not a campaign speech. this is an american court of law, and the rule of law applies to everyone. and when you have the judge running a tight ship, that plays into that theme correctly as to abiding by the rule of law. when you let it be a circus, you don't have control, that is where the defense can make hay. >> andrew weissmann and faith gay, thank you very much for starting off our discussions tonight. >>> coming up, e. jean carroll's best friend lisa birnbach, who got the phone call the day donald trump sexually assaulted e. jean carroll and who testified about that phone call at the trial, w
he was being judge kaplan. one of the things i think a judge has to do is have decorum and seriousness in the courtroom. as faith knows, when your prosecutor, one of the things you want is that sense of seriousness and levity and what it means to be in a court of law, whether it's a civil case or a criminal case. that, in many ways, then feeds off what shawn crowley can say about this is not a press conference. this is not a campaign speech. this is an american court of law, and the rule of law...
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kaplan. question, good afternoon, sir. now, your deposition that we watched earlier today in this trial took place in october of 2022, correct? answer, i believe, so. yes question, after that months after, that there was a trial between you and miss carroll that took place actually in this courtroom, correct? ms. habba, objection. the court, sustained. ms. habba, thank you. ms. kaplan, question, something here today, mr. trump, are you aware that there was another trial between you and ms. carroll? and, yes. ms. habba, objection. the judge, sustained. question, mr. trump, is this the first trial between you and ms. carroll that you have attended? ms. habba, objection. the judge, i will allow. that answer, yes. miss kaplan, no further questions, your honor. the judge, any redirect? redirect examination by ms. habba. question, mister president, did you have counsel at that last trial? and, sir i had counsel. question, did you listen to the advice of counsel at the last trial?
kaplan. question, good afternoon, sir. now, your deposition that we watched earlier today in this trial took place in october of 2022, correct? answer, i believe, so. yes question, after that months after, that there was a trial between you and miss carroll that took place actually in this courtroom, correct? ms. habba, objection. the court, sustained. ms. habba, thank you. ms. kaplan, question, something here today, mr. trump, are you aware that there was another trial between you and ms....
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you may continue, miss kaplan. roberta kaplan continues. thank you, judge.donald trump, he is the former president united states. he remains very powerful today, obviously, and by his own account, he is extremely rich. he seems to think that his wealth and power entitle him to treat ms. carroll however he wants, and on trump's strategy is to bet that you will agree with him. he is hoping that you will let him off the hook, that he will suffer no consequences for his unlawful conduct. he is betting that you will let him continue to defame miss carroll, lying about her and destroying her reputation. but no matter what donald trump thinks in no matter what donald trump's says the rules to apply to him. he is not free to continue attacking defame ms. carroll just because he feels like it. in this country, even the most powerful person can be held accountable in a court of law. not one, not even a former president, is above the law. in other words, trump is required to follow the law, whether he likes it or not. joining us now, msnbc legal analyst lisa rubin who
you may continue, miss kaplan. roberta kaplan continues. thank you, judge.donald trump, he is the former president united states. he remains very powerful today, obviously, and by his own account, he is extremely rich. he seems to think that his wealth and power entitle him to treat ms. carroll however he wants, and on trump's strategy is to bet that you will agree with him. he is hoping that you will let him off the hook, that he will suffer no consequences for his unlawful conduct. he is...
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jean carroll's attorney, roberta kaplan, talked about the case.eplay a moment from a conversation when she spoke at what stood about to her most about trump's behavior. >> our whole case was about the fact donald trump is unable to follow the law, unable to follow the rules, he thinks they do not apply to him. as bad as what he did to e. jean carroll was in the sexual assault was terrible and as horrifying as the defamation was in 2019, the most amazing shocking part of it all is he kept on doing it. he kept on doing it during the trial. when other person thinks they can openly take the lot over and over again? donald trump. >> joining our panel, donald trump fleeced america and enriched his family. >> the moment donald trump stood up and walked out in the middle of roberta kaplan's closing arguments, 10 minutes in. it was at the moment she brought up this point where she said he did not respect the last jury's verdict. he was on cnn town hall repeating the statements that are not found defamatory, repeated them throughout the trial and repeated o
jean carroll's attorney, roberta kaplan, talked about the case.eplay a moment from a conversation when she spoke at what stood about to her most about trump's behavior. >> our whole case was about the fact donald trump is unable to follow the law, unable to follow the rules, he thinks they do not apply to him. as bad as what he did to e. jean carroll was in the sexual assault was terrible and as horrifying as the defamation was in 2019, the most amazing shocking part of it all is he kept...
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kaplan saw his audible exclamations for what they were noting with clear awareness. quote, i hope i don't have to consider excluding you from the trial. i understand you are eager for me to do that. trump captured this moment with absolute precision. four words, i would love it. >> thank you, phil. very satisfying. >>> legal analyst and former u.s. assistant attorney, elie honig and former southern district of new york division chief, both appeared before judge kaplan. good morning. thank you, guys, very much for being here . to the brilliant question phil asked you last hour, if trump were anyone else, would he have gotten thrown out of that courtroom yesterday? >> yes, eventually. i do think judge kaplan would have given the warning that he gave, but he probably gave a little longer leash because of all the reasons that we know, the pushback if he is thrown out will be even greater and because judge kaplan is smart enough to know, as you just relayeded, that this is exactly what trump wants. he wants to be thrown out so he can be perceived as the victim, and judge
kaplan saw his audible exclamations for what they were noting with clear awareness. quote, i hope i don't have to consider excluding you from the trial. i understand you are eager for me to do that. trump captured this moment with absolute precision. four words, i would love it. >> thank you, phil. very satisfying. >>> legal analyst and former u.s. assistant attorney, elie honig and former southern district of new york division chief, both appeared before judge kaplan. good...
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we've seen him have a back and forth with judge kaplan here, where essentially, judge kaplan said, you i don't want to kind of have to kick you out of these proceedings and i think donald trump had something to the effect of oh, i would love that. right? so, that gives you an idea of how this might all go down. >> right and i do want to say that at the risk of obviously having to later put my foot in my mouth, he's going up there and testifying. he has been briefed by his attorneys on what exactly he can and can't say, where the line is. remember, this is at the end of the day going to be about damages and money, which is something that donald trump cares deeply about. and he's going to focus on not crossing any of those lines. the same way that he has been once he was fined $10,000 for breaking a gag order. he had actually started going all the way up to the line, but not quite crossing it. i cannot imagine that his attorneys have not given him an explicit rundown of what exactly he can and cannot say. again, i might be putting my foot in my mouth later, but knowing that they are lett
we've seen him have a back and forth with judge kaplan here, where essentially, judge kaplan said, you i don't want to kind of have to kick you out of these proceedings and i think donald trump had something to the effect of oh, i would love that. right? so, that gives you an idea of how this might all go down. >> right and i do want to say that at the risk of obviously having to later put my foot in my mouth, he's going up there and testifying. he has been briefed by his attorneys on...
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judge lewis kaplan presided over the previous civil trial in which trump was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation of writer e. jean carroll, and for this trial, he emphasized no testimony could contradict the previous verdict. which left trump's lawyers with few questions. >> she's not my type. >> reporter: including whether he stood by the deposition in which he declared his innocence. trump said yes. at one point, trump said of carroll, "she said something i considered a false accusation." the judge ordered the comment stricken from the record. and when trump said, "i just wanted to defend myself, my family, and frankly the presidency," another objection and instruction to the jur to disregard. trump's entire testimony lasted only 4 minutes. and when he said before taking the stand, "i don't know who the woman is," judge kaplan reprimanded him for interrupting. exiting the courtroom, trump was overheard saying, "this is not america." now, jurors return in the morning for closing arguments and could potentially begin arg% and could potential eight-figure defamation sum by lu
judge lewis kaplan presided over the previous civil trial in which trump was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation of writer e. jean carroll, and for this trial, he emphasized no testimony could contradict the previous verdict. which left trump's lawyers with few questions. >> she's not my type. >> reporter: including whether he stood by the deposition in which he declared his innocence. trump said yes. at one point, trump said of carroll, "she said something i...
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in the filing, they're accusing the judge, judge kaplan here, and her attorney is roberta kaplan, of failing to report a relationship with roberta kaplan saying they worked together in the 1990s, and roberta kaplan, i should note in a statement to cnn is denying there is a conflict. how does this get handled? >> this is a bogus motion by the trump team. there's nothing there. first, by the way, same last name, no relation. every judge in that courthouse knows, socializes with, has worked with, maybe mentored, do dozens, hundreds of attorneys in the city. i used to practice in that courthouse in front of judges who used to be my colleagues and supervisors. that is not enough for a conflict of interest. if you look at the motion, it's self-defeating because trump's team cites this rule of ethics that says, well, it could be a conflict of interest if the judge worked with the attorney on this matter or while the attorney was working on this matter. the relationship they're talking about was a law firm, professional relationship that goes back 30 years. judge kaplan has been on the bench
in the filing, they're accusing the judge, judge kaplan here, and her attorney is roberta kaplan, of failing to report a relationship with roberta kaplan saying they worked together in the 1990s, and roberta kaplan, i should note in a statement to cnn is denying there is a conflict. how does this get handled? >> this is a bogus motion by the trump team. there's nothing there. first, by the way, same last name, no relation. every judge in that courthouse knows, socializes with, has worked...
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when she protested not being allowed to discuss tweets not in evidence, judge kaplan said, "you are on the verge of spending some time in the lock up. now sit down." now, underscoring the unusual nature of this trial, judge kaplan ordered the jurors to remain anonymous, even amongst each other, telling them to use aliases instead. nancy, that instruction is typically reserved for federal cases against drug cartels. >> nancy: big concern that these jurors could now face threats themselves. errol barnett in new york city, thanks so much.
when she protested not being allowed to discuss tweets not in evidence, judge kaplan said, "you are on the verge of spending some time in the lock up. now sit down." now, underscoring the unusual nature of this trial, judge kaplan ordered the jurors to remain anonymous, even amongst each other, telling them to use aliases instead. nancy, that instruction is typically reserved for federal cases against drug cartels. >> nancy: big concern that these jurors could now face threats...
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and judge kaplan will make sure he pays. indeed even to take the appeal he's going to have to at least put up a bond 20% of the amount. >> what was the whole experience in the courtroom like? >> i've been to a lot of courtrooms in my time especially new york city and i've seen a lot of judges. i have never seen a party be so openly contemptuous of the authority of the court and the authority of our justice system and the legitimacy of our justice system as donald trump. and i think the best thing of today other than the vindication that e. jean carroll so deserved is that today was a good day for our system of justice. today was a day that showed that the rule of law applies to everyone. even if you don't think the rule of law applies to you, it applies to you and applies today to donald trump. >> i'm always interested when i see depositions of a former president because someone sued as much as he has and involved in lawsuits and i assume deposed often he seems terrible in depositions. i imagine on the stand as well. how do
and judge kaplan will make sure he pays. indeed even to take the appeal he's going to have to at least put up a bond 20% of the amount. >> what was the whole experience in the courtroom like? >> i've been to a lot of courtrooms in my time especially new york city and i've seen a lot of judges. i have never seen a party be so openly contemptuous of the authority of the court and the authority of our justice system and the legitimacy of our justice system as donald trump. and i think...
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and kaplan has been that person to date.oday, when applications were made, elina and her colleague not only moved for a mistrial today on the basis of evidence that they claimed erroneously e. jean carroll has destroyed, but they also asked kaplan to recuse himself on the basis that he accepted, without consulting with the defense, a representation made about how trump was reacting from sean crowley, who is not only e. jean carroll's lawyer but previously served as a law clerk many years ago to judge kaplan. that was their basis for a mistrial, and both instances, kaplan cut them off sharply, said denied and some variation of, sit down or take a seat. lou kaplan wants everyone to know this is his kroorm, not donald trump's courtroom, and he has been very effective. >> some of us heard that message loud and clear. some others did not. how did judge kaplan leave things for tomorrow? what are the next steps? >> so, elina has 20 to 30 minutes left in her cross-examination of e. jean carroll. that's largely in part because her fl
and kaplan has been that person to date.oday, when applications were made, elina and her colleague not only moved for a mistrial today on the basis of evidence that they claimed erroneously e. jean carroll has destroyed, but they also asked kaplan to recuse himself on the basis that he accepted, without consulting with the defense, a representation made about how trump was reacting from sean crowley, who is not only e. jean carroll's lawyer but previously served as a law clerk many years ago to...
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please join me and fred kaplan. thank you, john. and thank you, jeff stauffer, for such a attentive and kind host and arranging my to be here and to have this occasion to talk about jefferson and an edifice that jefferson designed so i also want to thank of course, english department and the history department for being co host of this event, which i had an extra. warming a welcome to virginia yesterday when i stepped off the plane and, discovered that i was in a different country from where i had departed in the morning. i had departed from east boothbay, maine and the temperature was considerably different. jefferson hardly noticed or he didn't notice, but typically had something very interesting to say about the difference between the climate of northern new york and the climate of new england. on the one hand and the climate of virginia on the other hand. it is the case that maybe with the exception of paris now, no matter where jefferson travel, every virginia and everything about it was always better and and again and. 1791, j
please join me and fred kaplan. thank you, john. and thank you, jeff stauffer, for such a attentive and kind host and arranging my to be here and to have this occasion to talk about jefferson and an edifice that jefferson designed so i also want to thank of course, english department and the history department for being co host of this event, which i had an extra. warming a welcome to virginia yesterday when i stepped off the plane and, discovered that i was in a different country from where i...
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the judge noted the incident and kaplan continued. cnn repts that she said, quote, the case is also about punishing donald trump for what he has done and what he continues to do. shd trump tries to, quote, normalize conduct that could hardly be more abnormal. she went on to say, quote, typically when someone is found liable for defamaon, they stop making those statemeven if they don't like t jury's verdict, even if you d't like the jury's decision you follow it. those are the this trial is also about something much more profound. the rules that apply to everyone else, to you, to me, to ms. carroll, whether they also apply to donald trump. the ex-president was back in the courtroom for his attorney's osing arguments. habba's closing got off to a rough start with the judge - kaplan objecting twice. she claimed the reason trump continued to deny the assault after being found liable is because it was, quote, the truth. the second came when she said carroll's account had more holes than swiss cheese which prompted his warning. habba did no
the judge noted the incident and kaplan continued. cnn repts that she said, quote, the case is also about punishing donald trump for what he has done and what he continues to do. shd trump tries to, quote, normalize conduct that could hardly be more abnormal. she went on to say, quote, typically when someone is found liable for defamaon, they stop making those statemeven if they don't like t jury's verdict, even if you d't like the jury's decision you follow it. those are the this trial is also...
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trump just rose and walked out of the courtroom," judge lewis kaplan said. the former president was not in the room when the jury announced its verdict. after, jurors spirited out, driven away from the courthouse, their identities protected. judge kaplan telling them, "my advice to you is that you never disclose that you were on this jury." $83 million is far more than what e. jean carroll and her attorneys were expecting. more than three times what they asked for. the jury decided that trump's statements about carroll not only caused her to suffer, but were malicious and made out of spite, and for that he needed to be punished. tonight, david, donald trump says this is absolutely
trump just rose and walked out of the courtroom," judge lewis kaplan said. the former president was not in the room when the jury announced its verdict. after, jurors spirited out, driven away from the courthouse, their identities protected. judge kaplan telling them, "my advice to you is that you never disclose that you were on this jury." $83 million is far more than what e. jean carroll and her attorneys were expecting. more than three times what they asked for. the jury...
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but it was exactly that vitriol from trump that judge lewis kaplan was concerned about. when he issued these notable parting words to the tours that are just ruled against the ex president. quote, my advice to you is that you never disclose that you are on this jury. the implication there, clear's day. trump's followers revel in menace, intimidation, sometimes violence. that will be weaponized against anyone perceived as his enemy. he will face harassment of people know that. notably, that jury did not even need to address the basic validity of carroll's claimed, the thing that started, this winter publisher book when where she said that donald trump sexually assaulted her in a manhattan dressing room back in the 1990s. as judge kaplan instructed the jury, that allegation, the core of this entire episode, was already determined to be true by another jury in trump's previous civil defamation trial last year, a jury that heard extensive evidence of came to the conclusion that he was civilly liable for sexually abusing her. don trump showed up in court this morning in spent
but it was exactly that vitriol from trump that judge lewis kaplan was concerned about. when he issued these notable parting words to the tours that are just ruled against the ex president. quote, my advice to you is that you never disclose that you are on this jury. the implication there, clear's day. trump's followers revel in menace, intimidation, sometimes violence. that will be weaponized against anyone perceived as his enemy. he will face harassment of people know that. notably, that jury...
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judge kaplan. i think he is in for a rude awakening if he strays at all and certainly saying something of that nature would not fly in the courtroom. >> okay, matthew, big picture, we have talked legally, we have talked politics, 65 of iowa republicans believe trump could still serve as president even if he's convicted in one of his many criminal trials, noting there is no clear consensus about whether the criminal trials to be completed by election day. what is your take on the conviction question? do you think it could move enough voters to change the outcome of the election or are we looking too closely just at the maga base? >> so, i think a conviction will not impact his road to the nomination. i think that is almost an inevitable path to win the republican nomination. even in the midst of that, if he's convicted. those numbers also reveal why this is, i think, could be very problematic in a general election. while just an indictment may not have had dramatic effect, because almost a third of
judge kaplan. i think he is in for a rude awakening if he strays at all and certainly saying something of that nature would not fly in the courtroom. >> okay, matthew, big picture, we have talked legally, we have talked politics, 65 of iowa republicans believe trump could still serve as president even if he's convicted in one of his many criminal trials, noting there is no clear consensus about whether the criminal trials to be completed by election day. what is your take on the...
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i would put it this either to make crowley or miss kaplan if either of you want to answer it.enced twila tierney's. you've been against some of the best and brightest opposing counsel in all sorts of different trials. how is president trump's lawyer ring? is he well represented in court? >> i'm gonna let crowley answer that. but i will say that what you heard just now in that tape of alina habba leaving the court and yelling at the reporters, that's what we heard every single day, multiple times during this trial, but yelling at the judge. and it was unbelievably nerve-racking each time it happened, and it happens multiple times every day. >> yeah, thanks for handing that one over to me. [laughter] i think that she had a hard job, and you could definitely see a difference between her sort of style, when he was in the courtroom, and when he was not there. she was much more disciplined and frankly acted more like a lawyer when he wasn't there. when he was, i mean, you could hear him telling her went to object, and loudly being frustrated with her. and i think she felt like she h
i would put it this either to make crowley or miss kaplan if either of you want to answer it.enced twila tierney's. you've been against some of the best and brightest opposing counsel in all sorts of different trials. how is president trump's lawyer ring? is he well represented in court? >> i'm gonna let crowley answer that. but i will say that what you heard just now in that tape of alina habba leaving the court and yelling at the reporters, that's what we heard every single day,...
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remember how judge kaplan operated. he was in on the game and he would call it and say, i know you want to get kicked out. i know what you are trying to do here. is that the model other judges should follow? what did you learn about what future judges will have to face here? >> my understanding is that all the judges -- certainly all the federal judges in this country were looking very closely at what judge kaplan did. there was a lot of talk about what the judge was doing day-to-day. they're following it closely, and we'll learn lessons from what he did, and in federal court at least, and maybe even in the case in atlanta, they are going to copy what george kaplan did, and control his behavior. >> is it true you and the jury smiled at one another? >> that jury, nobody could read that jury. they were so responsible with their job making the right -- listening to the other. they didn't even look at the attorneys. they took notes, and they were just absolutely focused. so we had no idea, none, what the response would be,
remember how judge kaplan operated. he was in on the game and he would call it and say, i know you want to get kicked out. i know what you are trying to do here. is that the model other judges should follow? what did you learn about what future judges will have to face here? >> my understanding is that all the judges -- certainly all the federal judges in this country were looking very closely at what judge kaplan did. there was a lot of talk about what the judge was doing day-to-day....
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. >> to that point, one thing judge kaplan may do is ask for a proffer. meaning this, send the jury back to their room so they're not in the courtroom, and say, mr. trump, you'll testify here. i want to hear from you and your lawyers what you think you're going to testify about, so this is not a free-for-all. then judge kaplan can say, okay, that's in bounds, i'll allow you to testify to that, or he might say, no, i already set the boundaries here. what you told me doesn't fall in the narrow guidelines that judge kaplan set, that was laid out, and i'm not letting you. he may do that as a way to protect his courtroom. >> i think no matter what happens, if he does try to take the stand, if he doesn't, if there is a proffer, he is going to argue, as he has consistently, that he is the victim of an unfair system. >> step outside -- >> yes, it is the court of public opinion where he is making this argument. physically, he can do it from anywhere, right? the witness stand is another opportunity for them to, again, be a loud martyr. what differentiates this case
. >> to that point, one thing judge kaplan may do is ask for a proffer. meaning this, send the jury back to their room so they're not in the courtroom, and say, mr. trump, you'll testify here. i want to hear from you and your lawyers what you think you're going to testify about, so this is not a free-for-all. then judge kaplan can say, okay, that's in bounds, i'll allow you to testify to that, or he might say, no, i already set the boundaries here. what you told me doesn't fall in the...
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and then kaplan walked off the bench.ave the feeling, chris, knowing judge kaplan and how he's controlled his courtroom so far, this season the last we've heard of it. and it's likely that we won't have to see another outburst from former president trump for judge kaplan to revisit this subject. he has had very firm control of his courtroom in contrast to judge engoron, multiple times he has said to e lena ha baa things like if you don't have an objection, sit down. you're not here to make announcements. he for the most part has done it well so far. >> and yet, there's obviously some what we can say in layman's terms crazy there. but i want to go back to something i heard you say in the very early hours this morning, i think it was on "way too early," lisa so pardon me if i'm misquoting you but it really struck me that you said something like this is really about how much money is it going to take to shut up donald trump, right? and that's going to go back in large part, non-lawyer speaking to the credibility of e. jean c
and then kaplan walked off the bench.ave the feeling, chris, knowing judge kaplan and how he's controlled his courtroom so far, this season the last we've heard of it. and it's likely that we won't have to see another outburst from former president trump for judge kaplan to revisit this subject. he has had very firm control of his courtroom in contrast to judge engoron, multiple times he has said to e lena ha baa things like if you don't have an objection, sit down. you're not here to make...
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>> that's going to be a tough question for judge kaplan.t to level set, the judge here is a highly respected, highly experienced really serious federal judge. he will not stand for president trump defying the rules. one thing he could do here, is he could have president trump testify on the stand outside the presence of the jury. he forces the former president to say what he's going to say, analyze it, and then determine does the jury get to hear that. what the judge is concerned about is that could be effectively jury tampering, that the former president will try to get in the jury's minds things they should not be considering. the jury should not be considering did he, in fact, sexually assault her. they have to keep their narrow focus. if judge kaplan allows that kind of prescreening and the former president were to pass it and then get on the stand and basically do a 180 and give a trump campaign speech, at that point, he could be in contempt of court. judge kaplan has done that before. >> he has a history of really digging in on that.
>> that's going to be a tough question for judge kaplan.t to level set, the judge here is a highly respected, highly experienced really serious federal judge. he will not stand for president trump defying the rules. one thing he could do here, is he could have president trump testify on the stand outside the presence of the jury. he forces the former president to say what he's going to say, analyze it, and then determine does the jury get to hear that. what the judge is concerned about is...
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luis kaplan's -- e. jean carroll case, should he decide to do so. it is still, again, unclear if he's going to show up on tuesday when the court case is supposed to get underway. what are your thoughts on that? >> my bet, alex, is that he doesn't show up this week at all. that's in part because the case is going to start obviously with e. jean carroll's own presentation of the evidence. the order that we saw from luke kaplan points out the divergence that you noted earlier, that trump said he wanted to go to his mother-in-law's funeral and yet after making that represent nation to the court also scheduled a campaign event on january 17th in new hampshire. today's order points that out, but says if trump has put on a defense as of thursday, january 18th, and is done with his defense but for his own testimony, usually the judge would say if your witness isn't here counsel you are out of luck. your cases over. and with the judges saying, if you reach that point on thursday, i will let the court go early and we can wait until monday for trump to come ba
luis kaplan's -- e. jean carroll case, should he decide to do so. it is still, again, unclear if he's going to show up on tuesday when the court case is supposed to get underway. what are your thoughts on that? >> my bet, alex, is that he doesn't show up this week at all. that's in part because the case is going to start obviously with e. jean carroll's own presentation of the evidence. the order that we saw from luke kaplan points out the divergence that you noted earlier, that trump...
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judge kaplan has been on the bench for a long time, since 1994. he has good courtroom control, and that means he doesn't tolerate nonsense in his courtroom. what's really surprising here is the number of times he has had to admonish alina habba. she has been told to stand up when she speaks to the court, to sit down after the judge rules, and the way that this plays out is with trump's bad behavior in court where this morning he's been disruptive, he's made comments that are audible to the jury that go into matters that the defense has been prohibited from discussing in court, they've been told that they can't revisit the finding that donald trump sexually assaulted e. jean carroll and then defamed her. his comments are an effort to circumvent that rule. and, you know, lawyers don't win arguments with judges in court about how the judge intends to run their courtroom. so this will not end well for ms. habba. it will not end well for trump, and to the extent that a lot of it is happening in front of the jury, jurors aren't blind and they're able to
judge kaplan has been on the bench for a long time, since 1994. he has good courtroom control, and that means he doesn't tolerate nonsense in his courtroom. what's really surprising here is the number of times he has had to admonish alina habba. she has been told to stand up when she speaks to the court, to sit down after the judge rules, and the way that this plays out is with trump's bad behavior in court where this morning he's been disruptive, he's made comments that are audible to the jury...
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kaplan, robbie, let me put this to you. as soon as the verdict happened, robbie, you said there is a way to stand up to someone like donald trump. and it felt like you were not necessarily advising your fellow lawyers or potential defendants, but you were kind of advising the country. did you mean that as advice? do you mean that as advice for republicans who don't want to go along with him but have been so far afraid to say no or stand up to him? >> i think in the moment, rachel, i meant it in the context of the court system and litigation. but in my guts, in my heart, i meant what you said. how you just described it, or how e. jean just described it. it is time, and we proved i think in this case, it is time to stand up to the united states' current biggest bully. the way to do that is by using the facts and the law and our legal system to say that we're not afraid and we saw a jury of nine new yorkers stand up to him just as much as we did and say not only did you do this, but you need to pay her $83 million >> ms. crowl
kaplan, robbie, let me put this to you. as soon as the verdict happened, robbie, you said there is a way to stand up to someone like donald trump. and it felt like you were not necessarily advising your fellow lawyers or potential defendants, but you were kind of advising the country. did you mean that as advice? do you mean that as advice for republicans who don't want to go along with him but have been so far afraid to say no or stand up to him? >> i think in the moment, rachel, i meant...
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jean carroll with robbie kaplan. there is an email to prove it that you put out.yed a role in this as well. and it's an important one, there is the email. this morning, he did a number of interviews. and i want to play something that robbie kaplan said this morning. >> our options are on the table. >> what does that mean? >> if we have to bring another case, we'll bring another case. it's just gonna be more money. >> you know her well. we've watched trump very closely. what is she watching for exactly, and do you think trump will be able to control himself? >> the answer is she's watching for a future defamation, and that answer is he can't control himself. it's exactly what judge kaplan said in open court just last week, or the week before. you can't control yourself, can you? you can't -- he can't control himself. >> and if he uses her name? >> if he uses her name and says something that's defamatory, accuses her of lying, the allegations of rape, it's fault, even though it has been proven to the satisfaction of the unanimous jury. and to the u.s. district court
jean carroll with robbie kaplan. there is an email to prove it that you put out.yed a role in this as well. and it's an important one, there is the email. this morning, he did a number of interviews. and i want to play something that robbie kaplan said this morning. >> our options are on the table. >> what does that mean? >> if we have to bring another case, we'll bring another case. it's just gonna be more money. >> you know her well. we've watched trump very closely....
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judge kaplan himself, he runs a tight ship. one example, trump's spokesman, his cell phone went off in court today in the courtroom, the judge kicked him out of the courtroom. if there's a way to make him way, however millions, judge kaplan will find it. >> one parenthetical, ron desantis who loved trump so much and pretended to run against him, he's now saying he'll veto a bill to have florida pay his legal bills. the plot thickens. lisa reuben, thank you. paul and david are sticking around. >>> up next on "the reidout," all the pred's men are going to prison. former white house adviser peter navarro becomes the latest trump ally measured for an orange jump suit, because when congress asks you to come testify, you're supposed to say yes. "the reidout" continues after this. is ♪i'm hearing different ways for me to screen for colon cancer.♪ ♪it's time to use my voice,♪ ♪i've got a choice, more than one answer.♪ ♪i sat down with my doc.♪ we had a talk. ♪knew just what to say.♪ ♪i asked for cologuard and did it my way.♪ cologuard
judge kaplan himself, he runs a tight ship. one example, trump's spokesman, his cell phone went off in court today in the courtroom, the judge kicked him out of the courtroom. if there's a way to make him way, however millions, judge kaplan will find it. >> one parenthetical, ron desantis who loved trump so much and pretended to run against him, he's now saying he'll veto a bill to have florida pay his legal bills. the plot thickens. lisa reuben, thank you. paul and david are sticking...
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i mean, is kaplan going to be up for this?aplan's reputation is as a zealous legal advocate. he doesn't lean plaintive, he doesn't lean defended. he follows the rule of law. he keeps control of his courtroom. and that's exactly what we've seen so far. i think to the point, steph, that's exactly what we'll see if donald trump testifies. i think we'll see judge kaplan make an effort to vet his testimony before he takes the stand to ensure there won't be any prejudice done to the jury. judge kaplan will be very focused on making sure donald trump does not create a mistrial. >> katie,'tis james wants donald trump from being barred in any real estate business in new york for life. what's the argument that she's making? >> so what she's done if she's decided to -- one of her lawyers sent a letter to the court comparing the donald trump leads to the mark -- the case of martin shkreli. for those who don't remember martin shrilly. >> i sure do. >> of course, you're a business reporter. everybody -- i was a business, reporter too, he wa
i mean, is kaplan going to be up for this?aplan's reputation is as a zealous legal advocate. he doesn't lean plaintive, he doesn't lean defended. he follows the rule of law. he keeps control of his courtroom. and that's exactly what we've seen so far. i think to the point, steph, that's exactly what we'll see if donald trump testifies. i think we'll see judge kaplan make an effort to vet his testimony before he takes the stand to ensure there won't be any prejudice done to the jury. judge...
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this is one of the most respected judges in the country, judge kaplan. i don't think he's considered political in any way, shape or form. and looking for him to say that, i think, it's pretty extraordinary. and then to pick up on a point that katie made, if i were one of trump's criminal attorneys right now, i would be terrified of what happened today. because it is not the amount of damages that $83 million is concerning, as much as it shows how much ordinary people, juries, don't trust donald trump. they don't believe him. and you also saw the way donald trump acted in court. you can't storm out a court, or martyr under your breath, or acts like an entitle toddler in a criminal trial. it's not going to work before the jury. and so, i think if you are one of trump's lawyers right, now facing the criminal, stuff you are going to double down on your attempt to try to delay, delay, delay testing until after the election, and the -- and undo those prosecutions. -- can't be undone, even if he wins the presidency, this judgment will stand and -- try and rever
this is one of the most respected judges in the country, judge kaplan. i don't think he's considered political in any way, shape or form. and looking for him to say that, i think, it's pretty extraordinary. and then to pick up on a point that katie made, if i were one of trump's criminal attorneys right now, i would be terrified of what happened today. because it is not the amount of damages that $83 million is concerning, as much as it shows how much ordinary people, juries, don't trust donald...
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jean carroll's lawyers this morning, and then i listened to judge lou kaplan instruct the jury on the law as well as the legal process and the rules that they are required to follow as they deliberate. i think one of the things that was most interesting this morning is the emergence of big themes that are much bigger than e. jean carroll and donald trump alone. what you heard from e. jean carol's lawyers is this isn't a case just about defamation by donald trump against our client e. jean carroll. this is a case about the rule of law and who is bound by it, and who thinks they're above it. you've seen the way this guy behaves in court. you see his contempt for the rule of law. not only in the way that he treated a jury's verdict in this exact courtroom last may but the fact that he even got up in the middle of robbie kaplan's closing argument, the lead lawyer for e. jean carroll, and walked out ten or eleven minutes in because it was intolerable for him to hear facts that the judge has already determined must be taken by this jury as true. you then heard from alina habba today, and i
jean carroll's lawyers this morning, and then i listened to judge lou kaplan instruct the jury on the law as well as the legal process and the rules that they are required to follow as they deliberate. i think one of the things that was most interesting this morning is the emergence of big themes that are much bigger than e. jean carroll and donald trump alone. what you heard from e. jean carol's lawyers is this isn't a case just about defamation by donald trump against our client e. jean...
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he knows that judge kaplan has no proper speak impact to him or to his lawyers, not that judge kaplan is one sided or the other, but he is going to ensure that there is a fair trial, that these jurors are not intimidated, that they get a chance to hear the evidence. i don't think that there is any reason to doubt that trump is concerned about that. will he show up? he might make a cameo appearance, but given that, miss carroll's trial team has already said that they need some help in controlling mr. trump, so it won't be an upper, like in the a.g.'s case. my sense is that if he shows up, it will be in and out, and he's not going to get away with what he did in the a.g.. case >> so, let's talk about accountability though when it comes to this. donald trump continues to defame e. jean carroll, continues to claim he does not know who she is, and he says stuff like, i have absolutely no idea who this woman is, but i am going to go to it, that being the trial, and i am going to explain to i don't know who the hell she is. that in and of itself maybe is not defamation, but we do know that h
he knows that judge kaplan has no proper speak impact to him or to his lawyers, not that judge kaplan is one sided or the other, but he is going to ensure that there is a fair trial, that these jurors are not intimidated, that they get a chance to hear the evidence. i don't think that there is any reason to doubt that trump is concerned about that. will he show up? he might make a cameo appearance, but given that, miss carroll's trial team has already said that they need some help in...
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jean carroll testified where there was a very tense exchange between alina habba and judge kaplan. here's how it's described by cnn. your honor, clearly we're not going to finish this trial tomorrow. this trial will go into next week and i'm asking for the ki that he has the right to not miss the trial. trump has the right to be present either in person or by counsel and nobody is stopping him from doing either. the application is denied. i will hear no further argument.
jean carroll testified where there was a very tense exchange between alina habba and judge kaplan. here's how it's described by cnn. your honor, clearly we're not going to finish this trial tomorrow. this trial will go into next week and i'm asking for the ki that he has the right to not miss the trial. trump has the right to be present either in person or by counsel and nobody is stopping him from doing either. the application is denied. i will hear no further argument.
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judge kaplan wouldn't make a decision on that.hink he is maintaining tight control over his courtroom by not revealing to us what he's going to do and when. we'll have to learn after the lunch break, chris. >> all right, so we're going to stand by for that. eugene, worth reminding folks that in the original trial donald trump was ordered to pay $5 million. now she's seeking at least 10 million in compensatory damages. that's money. that's something that could be fought about depending on what happens here. having said that, from your conversations with donald trump's team and i'm talking about his political team, do they think that there's any downside even if he is told pay millions of dollars in this case? >> yeah, i mean, yes, sort of. part of it is when you push them to get them to be really, really honest and introspective about this, they know it's not a gd thing for your candidate to have to pay someone for the things that he is accused of and has been found liable of doing. but they do see a way as they have always done is
judge kaplan wouldn't make a decision on that.hink he is maintaining tight control over his courtroom by not revealing to us what he's going to do and when. we'll have to learn after the lunch break, chris. >> all right, so we're going to stand by for that. eugene, worth reminding folks that in the original trial donald trump was ordered to pay $5 million. now she's seeking at least 10 million in compensatory damages. that's money. that's something that could be fought about depending on...
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judge kaplan is going to reject that we'll take it up with the second circuit. the appellate court is going to look at judge kaplan with a very very favorable eyes. he's a well respected judge. he is on the fourth district one of the most respected courts in the country. so it's an uphill battle. >> any day you can avoid playing the papers the day you. when that's basically the way they've been operating throughout this entire thing. we should also know, lisa, part of this is he spent 50 million, this is what we got, his super pac spent 30 million illegal expenses in 2023. illegal bills, investigation expenses last year according to two people briefed on the figure. he'll just raise it all. if you go to dinner, well that's an extravagant dinner, someone else pays for it yeah, you know what, filed another motion. >> chris, tomorrow is the fcc's deadline for packs to waive their filing for the so while the new york times has reported that overall through two packs he paid $50 million in legal fees, tomorrow we get the nitty-gritty. we find out who he paid and what
judge kaplan is going to reject that we'll take it up with the second circuit. the appellate court is going to look at judge kaplan with a very very favorable eyes. he's a well respected judge. he is on the fourth district one of the most respected courts in the country. so it's an uphill battle. >> any day you can avoid playing the papers the day you. when that's basically the way they've been operating throughout this entire thing. we should also know, lisa, part of this is he spent 50...
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jean carroll to that attorney, roberta kaplan.m putting you on this together so you can get in touch. the person who sent that email is here with me now. conservative attorney george conway. i just wonder what your reaction was as we've been watching this and talking about this when you heard the $83 million verdict. >> i had a very emotional reaction. i was not surprised because i felt that all along, a just verdict would be on the order of $75 to $100 million, possibly even more. but to actually see justice done in this case, i found it quite moving. and i have to confess, i had to go out and take a walk to compose myself. it was staggering in that sense. but it was well deserved. it brings to mind the old saying, the saying attributed to dr. martin luther king. the moral ark of the universe is long but it bends toward justice. litigation is a part of that. litigation takes a long time. it takes a long time to bring someone to justice, both civilly and criminally. but when justice comes, it comes with a bang. >> and you think th
jean carroll to that attorney, roberta kaplan.m putting you on this together so you can get in touch. the person who sent that email is here with me now. conservative attorney george conway. i just wonder what your reaction was as we've been watching this and talking about this when you heard the $83 million verdict. >> i had a very emotional reaction. i was not surprised because i felt that all along, a just verdict would be on the order of $75 to $100 million, possibly even more. but to...
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. >> former fbi agent stuart kaplan joins us now. >> stuart, is this feasible, jesse, the deployment of a psyop in the united states. in this day and age, it's still illegal. the national security law prohibits the deployment of psyops or using an operative for psychological warfare. >> however, if i was running biden's management perception team, i would identify someone who would align themselves with my agenda, such as a taylor swift, who has close to 600 million followers. i would target her.
. >> former fbi agent stuart kaplan joins us now. >> stuart, is this feasible, jesse, the deployment of a psyop in the united states. in this day and age, it's still illegal. the national security law prohibits the deployment of psyops or using an operative for psychological warfare. >> however, if i was running biden's management perception team, i would identify someone who would align themselves with my agenda, such as a taylor swift, who has close to 600 million followers....
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judge kaplan said, mr. trump has the right to present here. that right can be forfeited, and it can be forfeited if he is disruptive. then the judge, speaking directly to defendant trump said, mr. trump, i hope i do not have to consider excluding new from the trial or, at least, from the presence. i understand, you are probably eager for me to do that. mr. trump, i would love it. the judge, i know you would. you just can't control yourself in the circumstances, apparently. there are some press reports that donald trump muttered, you can't either, but the line does not appear in the official court transcript. donald trump is on trial for being unable to control himself. when he raped e. jean carroll in a department store, in manhattan, and not being able to control himself. when he lies about e. jean carroll, the last thing that competent trump lawyers want in the courtroom is an exhibition of donald trump being unable to control himself. there was a recess immediately after, and immediately after, the judge told donald trump what you just can'
judge kaplan said, mr. trump has the right to present here. that right can be forfeited, and it can be forfeited if he is disruptive. then the judge, speaking directly to defendant trump said, mr. trump, i hope i do not have to consider excluding new from the trial or, at least, from the presence. i understand, you are probably eager for me to do that. mr. trump, i would love it. the judge, i know you would. you just can't control yourself in the circumstances, apparently. there are some press...
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jean carroll's attorney, roberta kaplan, said in her closing statement, which we now have the transcript of, she said under closing statement today the don trump continues to verbally attack e. jean carroll to this day, and she asked the jury, quote, given donald trump's insistence on continuing to defame miss carroll, and given his immense wealth, how much will it take to make him stop? we actually have the opportunity, maybe even the responsibility, to put an end to this. what you should do, ladies and gentlemen, is make him pay for what he has done the e. jean carroll, in fact borrowing the same words, the very same words the donald trump used to attack e. jean carroll back in june
jean carroll's attorney, roberta kaplan, said in her closing statement, which we now have the transcript of, she said under closing statement today the don trump continues to verbally attack e. jean carroll to this day, and she asked the jury, quote, given donald trump's insistence on continuing to defame miss carroll, and given his immense wealth, how much will it take to make him stop? we actually have the opportunity, maybe even the responsibility, to put an end to this. what you should do,...
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kaplan was speaking. rules don't apply to donald trump. he gets to do whatever he wants and uses massive powerful platform to keep moving her life. he even believes he gets to testify under oath and live lie once again. objection, overruled. ladies and gentlemen, this isn't a campaign rally. it's not a pressed event. this is a court of law. and it's ms. carroll's life. donald trump sexually assaulted her. he defamed her. he keeps defaming her. he is not the victim. this is her life. help her take it back. make him stop. make him pay enough so that he
kaplan was speaking. rules don't apply to donald trump. he gets to do whatever he wants and uses massive powerful platform to keep moving her life. he even believes he gets to testify under oath and live lie once again. objection, overruled. ladies and gentlemen, this isn't a campaign rally. it's not a pressed event. this is a court of law. and it's ms. carroll's life. donald trump sexually assaulted her. he defamed her. he keeps defaming her. he is not the victim. this is her life. help her...