we have rachel lazard, the president of the americans united for separation of church and state with us here okay the reasoning that we're getting and thank you for being with us, rachel, is oklahoma state superintendent saying the bible was a quote, necessary historical document to teach kids and to understand western civilization and the basis for our legal system and what is your reaction to that? my reaction is that superintendent ryan walters is on a christian nationalist crusade to impose his personal religious views on all the school children and families of oklahoma. he should know better. he was a history teacher. our constitution is not based on the bible it didn't come up at the constitutional convention hardly at all. the ten commandments didn't come up even once. and what it's based on is a promise of religious freedom. thomas jefferson wrote about that. it was about protecting and i'm paraphrasing the christian, the jew, the hindu, the muslim, and the infidel of every faith. think of how ratan recall that was for the late 1700s, but that's what our constitution is about