because these two will be granted , uh, these two will be granted, uh, new identities when they are eventuallyle, which is inevitably going to happen. >> rebecca, why can't they be given a whole life order? well, they could be given a whole life order, but but, um, in any event , that, uh, the parole period would still apply . would still apply. >> and the of course. well, the trial judge can say there'd be a whole life in custody order, but sentencing singh for murder is life. but that doesn't mean you don't serve your sentence outside of prison. you do serve some of your life sentence in the community as you saw with the community as you saw with the venables and johnson. uh, the venables and johnson. uh, the venables, um , and robert the venables, um, and robert thompson cases that there have been recalls to prison because on licence they haven't, uh, complied with their conditions post release. >> so isn't this the concern for many, many people, particularly with someone like venables, so depraved at such a young age ? depraved at such a young age? clearly, prison did not fix him. clearly,