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after that is when they got this call from trump and rnc chair ronna mcdaniel urging them not to sign certification. in that phone call, according to the detroit news, trump did apparently say how can anyone sign something when you have more votes than people? his statement was false. it was alluding to some claims that the vote count in detroit was rigged, it was not. and, you know, the emergence of this audio is really important because efforts to prevent certification in michigan, they are all part of special counsel jack smith's case right here in d.c. so this recording, this audio, if it's released, or if jack smith and his team get their hands on it, it really could be part of the case in this election subversion case out of d.c., the federal case, sara? >> and certainly, because there are so many people that are involved in that case, this doesn't just implicate donald trump, has there been a response from ronna mcdaniel, the head of the rnc? >> yeah, head of rnc, also calls michigan home, and, you know, according to the detroit news, mcdaniel said on the call, apparently urgin
after that is when they got this call from trump and rnc chair ronna mcdaniel urging them not to sign certification. in that phone call, according to the detroit news, trump did apparently say how can anyone sign something when you have more votes than people? his statement was false. it was alluding to some claims that the vote count in detroit was rigged, it was not. and, you know, the emergence of this audio is really important because efforts to prevent certification in michigan, they are...
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reportedly on this call was rnc chairman ronna mcdaniel, who also allegedly told those officials notgn the certification in, quote, we will get you attorneys. ronna mcdaniel's response to night, quote, what i said publicly and repeatedly at the time is referenced in my letter on november 21st 2020, is that there was ample evidence that warranted and audits. i am joined now by maggie haberman, senior political correspondent for the new york times and analyst, thank you for being with us. then president on the phone with county canvassers take us back to his mindset at this point in november 2020 that would prompt this extraordinary overturn. >> look, a couple of days early on after election day was when trump seemed to be aware he had lost according to multiple people, and then a short time after that, he dug in on the idea that he did not lost that he would make sure the transfer of power did not take place. this is part of that effort, he started telling people and i reported this previously, that he was not going to leave. why would you leave if you lost an election? so, it is not
reportedly on this call was rnc chairman ronna mcdaniel, who also allegedly told those officials notgn the certification in, quote, we will get you attorneys. ronna mcdaniel's response to night, quote, what i said publicly and repeatedly at the time is referenced in my letter on november 21st 2020, is that there was ample evidence that warranted and audits. i am joined now by maggie haberman, senior political correspondent for the new york times and analyst, thank you for being with us. then...
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in exchange, he and ronna mcdaniel offered legal protection for the canvassers. listen to the reporter who broke the moment describing he heard trump's voice. >> it was an appeal to these canvassers. it was a direct appeal to them. how could you sign this knowing what i am telling you? how could you sign it, the president of the united states told these two county canvassers that they would look terrible if they signed this. >> joining us now michigan secretary of state joscelyn benson, who knows quite a lot about all that transpired in that states around this time. secretary benson, you just put a message out on x talking about this day, that it was called into question whether they would actually certify these votes. what do you make of this new reporting? about the pressure that was happening behind the scenes? >> well, thanks for having me abby. this is extraordinary. i was not aware until craig's report that this recording existed. it is quite extraordinary. we had a gut feeling and have lots of different pieces of evidence to suggest that this was happening
in exchange, he and ronna mcdaniel offered legal protection for the canvassers. listen to the reporter who broke the moment describing he heard trump's voice. >> it was an appeal to these canvassers. it was a direct appeal to them. how could you sign this knowing what i am telling you? how could you sign it, the president of the united states told these two county canvassers that they would look terrible if they signed this. >> joining us now michigan secretary of state joscelyn...
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amna: have we heard anything from ronna mcdaniel or president trump on the call?no one disputed the contents of the call. a spokesperson for former president trump reiterated the ongoing light, that the election was stolen and thus he had every reason to make a call to election officials to stop that. ronna mcdaniel made a somewhat similar argument, she argued "what i said publicly and repeatedly at the time is there was ample evidence that warranted an audit of that vote. -- that vote." again, no election fraud found in michigan. estate review run by republicans found the same. joe biden won michigan fair and square. amna: in this case, the efforts didn't work, but if there was a similar pressure campaign in our upcoming presidential election, is our election system better prepared to handle it? william: this is an enormous ongoing concern.% last year in michigan, a past allow that said canvassers can only certify a vote based on the vote tally, so michigan seems to have headed this off. that a lot of other states, georgia, north carolina, wisconsin, where simila
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everybody is knows -- also on the phone, ronna mcdaniel, the chairwoman of the rnc, she said, do notign it, refer too the certifications, we will get you attorneys, trump adding that is a lie. it is november true then, not true now. i want to be clear, it almost worked. they tried to rescind their votes, but it was too late, that was that. so marshall s. how are they responding to news of this recording. they very significant. it could be used to special counsel jack smith. to in, in jacket smith's words, disenfranchise millions of voters. the trump campaign did put out a responsibility. it's from stephen chung, who said all of president trump's actions were taken in furtherance of his duty as president of the united states and ensure election integrity. it's hard to take that at face valuable she want all she wanted was to check the vote, not throw out the votes. no ones has heard the tape yet, but hopefully one day soon. . >>> thank you very, very much. >> all of with -- let me start with you. that's also at the hard of georgia and federal election. i want to play the clip. listen
everybody is knows -- also on the phone, ronna mcdaniel, the chairwoman of the rnc, she said, do notign it, refer too the certifications, we will get you attorneys, trump adding that is a lie. it is november true then, not true now. i want to be clear, it almost worked. they tried to rescind their votes, but it was too late, that was that. so marshall s. how are they responding to news of this recording. they very significant. it could be used to special counsel jack smith. to in, in jacket...
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donald trump and ronna mcdaniel were focused on telling them not to sign the certification document. >> okay. and we understand that the call, again, thanks to your reporting, the call that you're referencing that they took from donald trump, it may have been one that they took, just the two of them, was it inside a car outside the canvassing or is that wrong? tell me how that call happened? >> so the call happened like this. william hartman and monica palmer left the canvassing meeting. there was a crowd of people around them they entered a vehicle in the parking lot to take this call from donald trump and ronna mcdaniel. there were a group of people who got into the car with william hartman and monica palmer. so you had a number of people, a large number of people that were able to hear this call. >> okay. which may be in part how it got to you. but let me ask you about these canvassers.wayne county unfortunately we know that william hartman passed away in 2021. so now this leaves monica palmer. has there been anything that indicates initially they're opposing the certification, an
donald trump and ronna mcdaniel were focused on telling them not to sign the certification document. >> okay. and we understand that the call, again, thanks to your reporting, the call that you're referencing that they took from donald trump, it may have been one that they took, just the two of them, was it inside a car outside the canvassing or is that wrong? tell me how that call happened? >> so the call happened like this. william hartman and monica palmer left the canvassing...
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and whether or not now the implication of ronna mcdaniel matters to the big picture? >> i think that this really helps prosecutors make the case that this was an organized effort. a lot of people say, well, this was just trump, he was being reckless, he didn't really know what he was doing or what he was saying. no, he was pretty clear that this was a strategic, stealthy effort to interfere with election results in a number of states. we have only heard now, or are aware of these reports from georgia and michigan. there were probably many other conversations. so i think like you said at the beginning of the segment, it is clear that there is a pattern here that there was an organized effort and that other people helped donald trump. that it wasn't just him acting alone. >> danielle, let me play for you what the admission secretary of state told my colleague chris hayes last night about how concerned she was over how wayne county could've been the first domino to fall in trump's election subversion plot. >> we knew we were the first domino to fall if we failed to stop
and whether or not now the implication of ronna mcdaniel matters to the big picture? >> i think that this really helps prosecutors make the case that this was an organized effort. a lot of people say, well, this was just trump, he was being reckless, he didn't really know what he was doing or what he was saying. no, he was pretty clear that this was a strategic, stealthy effort to interfere with election results in a number of states. we have only heard now, or are aware of these reports...
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ronna mcdaniel has issued a statement about this. she's saying that what i said publicly, repeated at the time in my letter on november 21st 2020, is that there was ample evidence that warranted an audit. she is continuing to press that she believed that the election results should've been looked into using that as her defense for what we are hearing from her on the phone call. >> all, right very interesting. but it does seem like part of a pattern, what we saw, pressure from the president's team at the time. guys, jessica, alina, thank you. we bring in former u.s. attorney, harry litman. harry, all of this sounds reminiscent of -- what do you think about the new reporting? how significant is that for prosecutors? folks like special counsel, jack smith, what do you think? >> i think that is exactly. right it really is a piece with the infamous phone call to raffensperger. one key difference, these two canvassers let us inside and play ball, they came back the next, day tried to rescind the votes. never did sign and then said publicly
ronna mcdaniel has issued a statement about this. she's saying that what i said publicly, repeated at the time in my letter on november 21st 2020, is that there was ample evidence that warranted an audit. she is continuing to press that she believed that the election results should've been looked into using that as her defense for what we are hearing from her on the phone call. >> all, right very interesting. but it does seem like part of a pattern, what we saw, pressure from the...
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susan, house ronna mcdaniel, how will your pr work around this, at best this is not a good look? >> no, that's right. no republican carl rogue said today that he thought she could be in trouble because the tape recording if the appearance that she is offering these canvassing officials legal services an exchange for their failure to certify the. that can get around to legal problems. the optics, obviously, are not great to, be calling county officials, the wayne county commissioner, the rnc chairman and the president of the united states call you to urge you to do something that sounds fishy. this is really, this call today's shocking and also in some ways not that surprising. >> all right, thank you all for starting us off tonight. we were not ready for a big newsday but, we certainly got one. marc, susan, kathryn, great to see you all. before we go to break any to share breaking news with you from a colorado jury. two paramedics there have been found guilty of criminally negligent homicide in the death of elijah mcclain. if you remember he was a 23-year-old an armed a black man
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republican national committee chairwoman, ronna mcdaniel, was also reportedly on that call. the detroit news reached out to trump, mcdaniel, and the canvassers, and none of their spokespeople disputed this account. the paper says the audio was captured by someone present for the conversation between trump and the canvassers. the detroit news obtained the audio through an intermediary who heard the recordings but was not present for the cause. nbc news has not heard or verify these recordings, but earlier tonight the reporter on this story broke it down to my colleague, ali velshi. >> it was laying out the arguments that the then president had been making on social media repeatedly about wayne county's election, making them over the phone, directly to these two county election officials, telling them, as you just said, but they would look terrible if they sign the certification, arguing with them, how could you sign this, knowing that there are more votes than there are, a clean that was not accurate but claim he made on the call with east to wayne county canvassers. and havi
republican national committee chairwoman, ronna mcdaniel, was also reportedly on that call. the detroit news reached out to trump, mcdaniel, and the canvassers, and none of their spokespeople disputed this account. the paper says the audio was captured by someone present for the conversation between trump and the canvassers. the detroit news obtained the audio through an intermediary who heard the recordings but was not present for the cause. nbc news has not heard or verify these recordings,...
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i'm not going to speak to that from here. >> martha: can that we bring in ronna mcdaniel.ve you with us today. can you explain a little bit to people what is happening in florida? we hear so much about the damage that is done to democracy and how important it is for people to vote and get out the vote and yet there's two people that are running in the democratic primary and they decided you won't have that choice in florida. >> not only that, they changed their primary calendar, doing everything that they can to ensure this from biden. that moved from iowa to new hampshire to south carolina. they're keeping names off the ballots. they say the republicans are a threat to democracy. we're not putting our thumb on the scale. they're making sure that biden is bubble wrapped. they're going state by state to try to eliminate donald trump from the ballot for a crime he hasn't even been charged for through the 14th amendment. the rnc has done an amicus on this. >> martha: in colorado and michigan, they have charged the former president with insurrection, which he has not been char
i'm not going to speak to that from here. >> martha: can that we bring in ronna mcdaniel.ve you with us today. can you explain a little bit to people what is happening in florida? we hear so much about the damage that is done to democracy and how important it is for people to vote and get out the vote and yet there's two people that are running in the democratic primary and they decided you won't have that choice in florida. >> not only that, they changed their primary calendar,...
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mcdaniel called these two holdouts and urged them to stand fast and ronna mcdaniel said they would providethem lawyers. in the end, they caved and it went on and the votes were certified, but had that been held up, that would have been another example of the system grinding to a halt where there was really no evidence, no credible evidence of fraud, and this could end up being important evidence, jose, in jack smith's federal election prosecution of mr. trump. >> and this is, ken, information that apparently smith did not have access to until now. >> i think that's not clear, we should always be very cautious what about we think the special counsel does and doesn't have with his vast subpoena power, and with the fbi at his disposal. whether he has it or not, he has it now, and it's very important evidence. >> and joyce, this is just the latest phone call we know where trump was directly involved in efforts to overturn the election. what stands out to you about this reporting? >> so i think one of the intriguing facts here, which is very useful to prosecutors is the fact that here we have t
mcdaniel called these two holdouts and urged them to stand fast and ronna mcdaniel said they would providethem lawyers. in the end, they caved and it went on and the votes were certified, but had that been held up, that would have been another example of the system grinding to a halt where there was really no evidence, no credible evidence of fraud, and this could end up being important evidence, jose, in jack smith's federal election prosecution of mr. trump. >> and this is, ken,...
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mcdaniel, and this is what trump said.ow can someone sign something when you have more votes than people? his statement was false and alluding to the false claims that the vote count in detroit was somehow rigged, but, kate and sara, the emergence of the video is really important, because the efforts to prevent certification in michigan as well as other states is all part of the special counsel's case here in d.c. and the audio transcripts could be eventually part of the case that is moving forward. it is currently scheduled for trial on march 4th, but because the ofappeals are playing out, could be sliding. >> and what the trump camp is saying that is all part of the presidential duties and they are saying that there is nothing to see here is their take. has there been a response from mcdaniel? >> yes, there has been a response from her. this is what she said according to "the detroit news" and she said, if you can go ohome tonight, do not sign it, and we will get you attorneys, and trump said, yes, we will take care of t
mcdaniel, and this is what trump said.ow can someone sign something when you have more votes than people? his statement was false and alluding to the false claims that the vote count in detroit was somehow rigged, but, kate and sara, the emergence of the video is really important, because the efforts to prevent certification in michigan as well as other states is all part of the special counsel's case here in d.c. and the audio transcripts could be eventually part of the case that is moving...
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far sha marshall cohen, cnn, washington. >>> and ronna mcdaniel has responded to the detroit news article saying while i said publicly and repeatedly at the time that there was amp evidence that warranted an audit. trump's long time ally rudy giuliani says he is all but broke. he's asking a federal court for production from bankruptcy. the move is just days after a jury ordered giuliani to pay nearly $150 million for defaming two election workers in georgia. the disgraced turn says he has assets of up to $10 million, but his debts are up to half a billion, which includes that defamation judgment, three other pending defamation cases, nearly a million in unpaid taxes and hundreds of thousands in lawyers and accountants fees. one of giuliani's attorneys explains why they filed for bankruptcy protection now. >> we're going to do everything we can to make sure that all his assets and all his looiiabiliti are properly disclosed. obviously with the decision to accelerate the collection process on behalf of the plaintiffs, we had to rapidly file this case. we believe mr. giuliani is prepared to
far sha marshall cohen, cnn, washington. >>> and ronna mcdaniel has responded to the detroit news article saying while i said publicly and repeatedly at the time that there was amp evidence that warranted an audit. trump's long time ally rudy giuliani says he is all but broke. he's asking a federal court for production from bankruptcy. the move is just days after a jury ordered giuliani to pay nearly $150 million for defaming two election workers in georgia. the disgraced turn says he...
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because according to the detroit news, the republican national committee chair ronna mcdaniel was also on the call saying do not sign the certification. we will get you attorneys. after which trump chimed in, yeah, we'll take care of that. so how significant is this detail that the ex-president and rnc chair allegedly offered to provide lawyers for these canvassers? >> it is huge. and it is huge because you are offering a public official something of value in order to engage in an activity or not engage in an activity in terms of not certifying. so how do you justify doing this. we have free and fair elections in this country and in order for our democracy to flourish, it has to be respected. so why are you doing this. i think if you look at it in combination, you are involved in activities with someone else to alter the course of events and here you are telling officials we'll take care of your lawyers. it is a terrible look if you are a prosecutor. again from the defense, they will say it was his solemn dutu your eye on the prize. so those are the narratives that will pray out. whi p
because according to the detroit news, the republican national committee chair ronna mcdaniel was also on the call saying do not sign the certification. we will get you attorneys. after which trump chimed in, yeah, we'll take care of that. so how significant is this detail that the ex-president and rnc chair allegedly offered to provide lawyers for these canvassers? >> it is huge. and it is huge because you are offering a public official something of value in order to engage in an...
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has the former president or ronna mcdaniel responded to this reporting? >> you know, it's pretty incredible they put out a response so quickly. clearly this is something that has rattled them. yes, the trump campaign put out a statement. i'll read it for you. they said, quote, all of president trump's actions were taken in furktance of his duty as president of the united states to faithfully take care of the laws and ensure election integrity. but, pam, it is hard to take that statement at face value that this was part of his official duties as president. the jack smith indictment says very clearly that these were not his -- this was not his job. this was actually the opposite of his responsibility. this was a defrauding of the united states and an attempt to overturn an election. according to jack smith, but of course, you know, trump has pleaded not guilty and denies any wrongdoing. >> right. but we know the facts. we see the evidence, some of that evidence emerging you just laid out with this reporting. again, we want to note cnn has not heard. we're b
has the former president or ronna mcdaniel responded to this reporting? >> you know, it's pretty incredible they put out a response so quickly. clearly this is something that has rattled them. yes, the trump campaign put out a statement. i'll read it for you. they said, quote, all of president trump's actions were taken in furktance of his duty as president of the united states to faithfully take care of the laws and ensure election integrity. but, pam, it is hard to take that statement...
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now, as far as the whole audio recording of ronna mcdaniel and donald trump putting pressure on this individual not to solidify and certify the election, it's no surprise. we also saw a trickle down. the bullying tactics to from the top. the trickle down even here in the state of nevada. to win had six nevada gop leaders that were also indicted who are being fake electors. and they also put the pressure on our secretary of state at the time, who was a republican, who refused to kowtow to the shenanigans and they ended up censuring her. this is something that we're seeing as a pattern. with the whole trump administration the people who basically see that he can do no wrong. and believe that he is the only answer forr nation to move foard. it's not an okay situation. >> amy, sticking with, you on thursday, rudy giuliani filed for bankruptcy in federal court. this comes less than a week after a jury ordered him to pay nearly $150 million to two former georgia election workers, ruby freeman and shaye moss. who he defamed. giuliani is also facing several other lawsuits. what's the lesson
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ronna mcdaniel basically said we'll cover for you, we'll get you a lawyer.ing was wrong, and i'm pretty sure she'll probably be a witness in one case or another now. more importantly, this is what the republican party is putting forward and that narrative is something that can hopefully turn out owes republicans that slowed up for biden in 2020. >> charles coleman, susan del percio, and guy l. smith, thank you all for being here today. >>> still to come, from alec murdaugh to the murders in idaho, we're taking a look back at crimes that shocked the nation, and the trials that captivated millions in 2023. plus, the latest on the christmas eve mall shooting in colorado that killed one person and injured two more. keep it right here. keep it right here there is a lot of information out there. hamas slaughtered more than 1200 innocent people, holds innocent hostages, and raped countless innocent women. and now hamas is trying to hide sexual violence against women. they don't want those women to be able to talk about what happened to them stand with palestinians
ronna mcdaniel basically said we'll cover for you, we'll get you a lawyer.ing was wrong, and i'm pretty sure she'll probably be a witness in one case or another now. more importantly, this is what the republican party is putting forward and that narrative is something that can hopefully turn out owes republicans that slowed up for biden in 2020. >> charles coleman, susan del percio, and guy l. smith, thank you all for being here today. >>> still to come, from alec murdaugh to the...
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and during the phone call, which included rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel, trump reporte monica palmer and william hartman that they would look, quote, terrible if they sig the certification. namely because in an earlier canvasser's meeting both alleot against approving the county's election results before swi t two votes of support during that same meeting. now, following tha meeting and the call with trump, both hartman andmer tried unsuccessfully to rescind their votes i favor of certification saying they were pressured. the detroit news reached out to the spokespeople for the former president, rnc chair mcdaniel and canvasser monica palmer. none disputed a summary of the call. the other canvasser, william hartman, died in 2021. >>> still ahead, severe weather could spark major delays as holiday travel kicks into high gear this weekend. we'll have a report on that. plus former president trump continues spouting anti-immigrant rhetoric in a new social media video. we'll show the results in a recent poll whether the comments are helping or hurting his campaign. those stories and a che
and during the phone call, which included rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniel, trump reporte monica palmer and william hartman that they would look, quote, terrible if they sig the certification. namely because in an earlier canvasser's meeting both alleot against approving the county's election results before swi t two votes of support during that same meeting. now, following tha meeting and the call with trump, both hartman andmer tried unsuccessfully to rescind their votes i favor of certification...
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i'm done he told ronna mcdaniel on the phone, i'm starting my own party.o we're losing forever. and she pleaded with trump and when that changed miserably reminding the former president it would cost millions of dollars. if he went through the plan the rnc would not only stop paying his legal bill, it would also prevent him from raising money off the supporters he and the party owned jointly. within a week, trump backed down. this sort of arrangement of convenience republicans can't win if he breaks from the party, and this is an issue they'd have to contemplate if they were ever to lose a primary and he needs the resources and raising money. >> to me it's one of the great what-ifs of the period between the end of the trump presidency and where we are now, where he once again has apparently total control over these parties. what if ronna mcdaniel had instead of begging and threatening him to stay in the party said good riddance, go. similar question to mccarthy, what if he said to trump bye-bye instead of pleading for him to come back a week after leaving
i'm done he told ronna mcdaniel on the phone, i'm starting my own party.o we're losing forever. and she pleaded with trump and when that changed miserably reminding the former president it would cost millions of dollars. if he went through the plan the rnc would not only stop paying his legal bill, it would also prevent him from raising money off the supporters he and the party owned jointly. within a week, trump backed down. this sort of arrangement of convenience republicans can't win if he...
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ronna mcdaniel says if you can go home tonight, do not sign it. that's the certification of the election results. we will get you attorneys, followed by trump saying we will take care of that. those two officials, apparently had already voted to certify the results, they tried to rescind the votes but were not able to do so. what do you make of all this? >> i think the former president has a problem with this. they had voted to certify the election, he attempted to force them to change their decision, which they tried to do, i think this is what we would call election interference. and just as he got into trouble in georgia over a similar act, calling the secretary of state and saying find me 11,000 some odd more votes, this is a problem. the former president should not have been doing this. these people are supposedly independent officials who are supposed to certify the election based upon their review of the process and the procedures in place and he's attempting to get them to change their opinion after the fact. this is not a good move if acc
ronna mcdaniel says if you can go home tonight, do not sign it. that's the certification of the election results. we will get you attorneys, followed by trump saying we will take care of that. those two officials, apparently had already voted to certify the results, they tried to rescind the votes but were not able to do so. what do you make of all this? >> i think the former president has a problem with this. they had voted to certify the election, he attempted to force them to change...
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ronna mcdaniel, everyone looking at the fundraising. is audio of ronna mcdaniel and president trump on tape pressuring two michigan officials who had already voted to certify the election in 2020, saying to them, you should flip your vote and then ronna chimes in and says, don't worry, we've got you handled on the attorney's front, we will get your lawyers covered, so now you have brad raffensperger the 11,000 plus votes he needs, you have the michigan call and who knows what else, so the election interference case is getting more and more solid. i understand your perspective on the colorado case. i just want to throw into the mix the fact that the judges who wrote for the majority opinion, those losers from the ivy league and all of that, cited neil gorsuch, right, and his decision -- >> kennedy: who is from colorado. >> jessica: where he affirmed the states right to kick someone off the ballot if they are ineligible in section three of the 14th amendment. nowhere does it say he has to be convicted of insurrection or rebellion. i'm jus
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outside of the packing lot is where this call from ronna mcdaniel and donald trump was received. they instructed these two individuals and pressured them, you voted to certify, demanding this audit. but if you don't sign this certification you cannot sign the certification because if you do sign the certification you will never get the audit that you are pressing for. so this idea of not signing the statement of votes, which is kind of a key mechanism in the process of certifying a michigan election, is really a big moment. without their signatures, there's the possibility that supporters of the former president could argue that the election in wayne county wasn't actually certified despite the vote. >> michigan does have a pretty good record of auditing things. they're sort of a built-in system there. did wayne county ultimately get audited? >> there was a type of audit that was done by the secretary of state. they conducted dozens upon dozens of audits of all the elections in michigan. it wasn't the type of audits and some of trump supporters wanted to see. was the results chec
outside of the packing lot is where this call from ronna mcdaniel and donald trump was received. they instructed these two individuals and pressured them, you voted to certify, demanding this audit. but if you don't sign this certification you cannot sign the certification because if you do sign the certification you will never get the audit that you are pressing for. so this idea of not signing the statement of votes, which is kind of a key mechanism in the process of certifying a michigan...
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. >>> outside in the parking lot is where this call from ronna mcdaniel and donald trump was received, and they instructed these individuals and pressured them, "you voted to certify, demanding this audit, but if you don't sign this certification, you cannot sign the certification. because if you do sign the certification, you'll never get the audit you're pressing for." >> that was a reporter from "the detroit news" speaking about audio recording he says he heard which reportedly captured donald trump telling michigan officials not to certify the 2020 election results. we're going to dig into that explosive, new reporting. >>> plus, as trump continues to double down on his anti-immigrant rhetoric, a recent poll shows republican voters say that his racist language makes them more likely to vote for him. >>> also ahead, america's mayor is broke. rudy giuliani filed for bankruptcy just days after being ordered to pay $146 million in his defamation case. >>> and regrets, he's had a few. what republican presidential candidate ron desantis is saying is the one thing he wishes he could chan
. >>> outside in the parking lot is where this call from ronna mcdaniel and donald trump was received, and they instructed these individuals and pressured them, "you voted to certify, demanding this audit, but if you don't sign this certification, you cannot sign the certification. because if you do sign the certification, you'll never get the audit you're pressing for." >> that was a reporter from "the detroit news" speaking about audio recording he says he...
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republican chairwoman ronna mcdaniel, who was on the same call, reportedly said, "do not sign it. we will get you attorneys." trump adding, "we'll take care of that." abc news has not independently confirmed the report, neither trump nor mcdaniel disputed the paper's characterization of the call. heart the pressure campaign did not work. the canvassers ultimately certified the election for biden. his spokesman says trump's actions "were taken in furtherance of his duty as president to ensure election integrity." mcdaniel said the call reflects her belief "there was ample evidence that warranted an audit." the call fits a pattern of trump strong-arming state officials to change the 2020 election results, like his call to georgia's secretary of state. >> so look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state. >>> aaron katersky joining us now, i want to go back to that order from the supreme court declining to fast track a review of trump's immunity, what does this mean for the special counsel's case going forwar
republican chairwoman ronna mcdaniel, who was on the same call, reportedly said, "do not sign it. we will get you attorneys." trump adding, "we'll take care of that." abc news has not independently confirmed the report, neither trump nor mcdaniel disputed the paper's characterization of the call. heart the pressure campaign did not work. the canvassers ultimately certified the election for biden. his spokesman says trump's actions "were taken in furtherance of his duty...
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so, ronna mcdaniel, everyone is looking at you about your fundraising.and then we have the detroit press, right, who released or the news came out that there is audio. ronna mcdaniel and president trump on tape pressuring two michigan officials who had already voted to certify the election in 2020, saying to them you should flip your vote. and a runner chimes in and says, don't we got you. we got you handled on the attorneys front. we'll get your lawyers covered. so now you have brad raffensperger for the 11,000 plus votes that he needs. you have the michigan call and who knows what else. so the election interference case is getting more and more solid. i understand your perspective on the colorado case. i just want to throw the mix the fact that the judges who wrote the majority opinion ,those losers from the ivy league and all of that cited, neil gorsuch, right in his decision and from colorado. yes. and it was a case in the colorado where he affirmed the state's right to take someone off ballot if they are ineligible. and in section three of the 14th
so, ronna mcdaniel, everyone is looking at you about your fundraising.and then we have the detroit press, right, who released or the news came out that there is audio. ronna mcdaniel and president trump on tape pressuring two michigan officials who had already voted to certify the election in 2020, saying to them you should flip your vote. and a runner chimes in and says, don't we got you. we got you handled on the attorneys front. we'll get your lawyers covered. so now you have brad...
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the paper also says republican national committee chairwoman ronna mcdaniel was on the call.onight, do not sign it," the paper reports mcdaniel told the officials. "we will get you attorneys." trump told them to fight, said it would be terrible if they certified, and said they must not let these people take our country away from us. the call was detailed in the house select committee's january 6th report, but the existence of audio was not previously known. in the report, palmer told investigators she could not recall what exactly trump said or if he raised election issues. palmer has said she was trying to protect the vote. >> make sure every vote is counted, whether it is a republican or a democrat. >> reporter: a trump spokesman said trump's actions were within his duty as president and an attempt to ensure election integrity. in a statement, mcdaniel said that at the time there was ample evidence that warranted an audit. special counsel jack smith has been investigating how trump worked to throw president biden's victory into doubt and sparked chaos in the congressional c
the paper also says republican national committee chairwoman ronna mcdaniel was on the call.onight, do not sign it," the paper reports mcdaniel told the officials. "we will get you attorneys." trump told them to fight, said it would be terrible if they certified, and said they must not let these people take our country away from us. the call was detailed in the house select committee's january 6th report, but the existence of audio was not previously known. in the report, palmer...
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mcdaniel try to pressure officials in the state of michigan not to certify the boat.t that was titled, i am michigan's chief election in official... because your position is also an elected position, you are a democrat, if you think the former president is a threat to democracy, do you think you should be on the ballot? that is a great question. first is important note, i as many of our colleagues in battleground states were a witness to the real attempts to undermine the will of the people in our state. we do not take this issue lightly. we take it very seriously and in many ways the decision is notjust whether the constitution makes donald trump ineligible to run, it is who should make that decision and when should that decision be made. that is really whether law has been, in my view, likely. to who is the courts and awareness either now or in the general election phase and so i can certainly tell my story, as i have two and talk about what i witness but the idea that wednesday deficient, a politician unilaterally should be able to determine a nuanced and factually
mcdaniel try to pressure officials in the state of michigan not to certify the boat.t that was titled, i am michigan's chief election in official... because your position is also an elected position, you are a democrat, if you think the former president is a threat to democracy, do you think you should be on the ballot? that is a great question. first is important note, i as many of our colleagues in battleground states were a witness to the real attempts to undermine the will of the people in...
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>> it's both him and rnc chair ronna mcdaniel.hat you have here is potentially bribery, because they were promising the elector an attorney if, in fact, they didn't go forward with the vote. you have potentially conspiracy to defraud the united states. you also have additional evidence for the georgia rico case. this is what's known in federal court as 404 evidence. this is similar to the raffensperger call in georgia. it's something fani willis could introduce in her georgia case as ef evidence or as part of the underlying rico case. >> thank you. got to leave it there. >> thank you. >>> still to come this hour, let the countdown begin. with just over three weeks before the iowa caucus, republican hopefuls are canvassing the state. >>> breaking news just in to cnn, the idf claim they've killed a top hamas official. we take you live to tel aviv in just minutes. stay with us. >>> the first contests of the 2024 presidential race are just around the corner. the iowa caucuses will take place in just 23 days, with new hampshire and sou
>> it's both him and rnc chair ronna mcdaniel.hat you have here is potentially bribery, because they were promising the elector an attorney if, in fact, they didn't go forward with the vote. you have potentially conspiracy to defraud the united states. you also have additional evidence for the georgia rico case. this is what's known in federal court as 404 evidence. this is similar to the raffensperger call in georgia. it's something fani willis could introduce in her georgia case as ef...
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mcdaniel try to pressure officials in the state of michigan not to certify the vote, and i saw thatf election official. trump's still a threat to democracy so let's be prepared. i'm wondering because your position is also an elected position, you are a democrat, if you think the former president is a threat to democracy, do you think he should be on the ballot? ., �* , ., ., ballot? that's a great question. _ ballot? that's a great question. first i ballot? that's a great question. first it i ballot? that's a great question. first it is i ballot? that's a great - question. first it is important to note i, as many of my colleagues in battle ground states, where an actual witness to the very real attempts to undermine the will of the people in our states, so we do not take this issue lately. we take very seriously, and in many ways decision is notjust whether the constitution makes donald trump ineligible to run, its who should make that it's who should make that decision, and when should that decision, and when should that decision be made. and that's really where the law has been, i
mcdaniel try to pressure officials in the state of michigan not to certify the vote, and i saw thatf election official. trump's still a threat to democracy so let's be prepared. i'm wondering because your position is also an elected position, you are a democrat, if you think the former president is a threat to democracy, do you think he should be on the ballot? ., �* , ., ., ballot? that's a great question. _ ballot? that's a great question. first i ballot? that's a great question. first it i...
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mcdaniel was apparently also suggesting that lawyers would be provided to the election workers on this phone call. if you can go home tonight, do not sign it, we'll get you attorneys. there's the quote right there, trump, we'll take care of it. we were talking with the secretary of state for michigan in the last hour, and she was saying, well, that, you know, that sounds a little bit like a bribery attempt. what do you think? >> it sounds a lot like a bribery attempt, actually. it also sounds like entering, making sure you're in the middle of a conspiracy to obstruct the proceedings by throwing sand right in the gears, and it's just phenomenal that we have two recordings now of the president of the united states reaching down to local officials, if you will, a secretary of state in georgia, and now canvassers in michigan, and trying to gum up the works. and that is potentially, a part of the grander conspiracy to obstruct the election. interfere with the election. >> yeah, and john, the trump campaign responded to the report, i'm sure you saw this quote, it says, trump's actions were t
mcdaniel was apparently also suggesting that lawyers would be provided to the election workers on this phone call. if you can go home tonight, do not sign it, we'll get you attorneys. there's the quote right there, trump, we'll take care of it. we were talking with the secretary of state for michigan in the last hour, and she was saying, well, that, you know, that sounds a little bit like a bribery attempt. what do you think? >> it sounds a lot like a bribery attempt, actually. it also...
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ronna mcdaniel was also on that call. what kind of fallout would you anticipate seeing from this reporting, if any? >> it's a reminder of how brazen the former president was in the after math of losing the 2020 election. we've heard the call with the georgia secretary of state that caused him significant legal problems right now. now we know that it wasn't just georgia. it was michigan and he was threatening and trying to arm twist michigan election workers. this is another legal headache and political headache for trump. i think 2024 will be an issue for trump more on the legal front than on the political front. >> gillian: well said. josh, have to leave it there. happy holidays for you. thank you for taking time with us today. >> thanks, gillian. [gunfire] >> bret: as the war against hamas continues, israel is sending more ground forces into gaza, including combat engineers to target hamas terrorists above ground and in the tunnels. meantime the u.n. security council set to vote this morning on aid for the gaza strip. t
ronna mcdaniel was also on that call. what kind of fallout would you anticipate seeing from this reporting, if any? >> it's a reminder of how brazen the former president was in the after math of losing the 2020 election. we've heard the call with the georgia secretary of state that caused him significant legal problems right now. now we know that it wasn't just georgia. it was michigan and he was threatening and trying to arm twist michigan election workers. this is another legal headache...
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mcdaniel.c since 2015. democrats have doubled it. joe biden q3. donald trump, the icon mug shot t-shirt everyone wants. 45 million i will probably spend it on his legal fees. >> i have seen more trump mug shot t-shirts and three months then buy it and then. i hang out in america. >> you do not hang out in the new spot of america that i have been. >> i haven't seen it here. i haven't seen in manhattan a single joe biden t-shirt. >> i can tell you this. donald trump has made a fortune off of that mug shot. an absolute fortune. his book is selling like crazy. people love the maga hats, the maga shirts starts, the maga copy mugs, this before flags. go to florida. why is he beating joe biden right now is ridiculous. >> he's not. >> yes, he is. it's my turn to talk. in addition to that, the only thing that my dogs like as i want you to see this particular thing that my dogs especially the new ones. my dogs fight over that one. all right. the truth is, inflation is up. as the highest since jimmy carte
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but i want to see those two debate, give them an open forum, ronna mcdaniel has to put aside the sillyr the rnc. >> debating each other in their own events you are seeing the emails coming through. >> laura: trump is going to win but still that would be fascinating debate. >> going trying to distract away from the others. there is a two in second and third place. going at each other's throat. >> there is no debate. the base will not go for nikki haley. it's ron desantis. if it is not trump but it will be trump. >> laura: about 86% of the country. >> afp should be ashamed of itself. >> she is on desantis' tail, so there is a significant number of voters who in the third place slot want her to be the president. >> laura: trump suspect by 30 points in iowa. >> all the early states is he is winning. >> laura: this is going to be fascinating. great to see you both in studio as always. two fatal shark is attacks in two days? what is going on here. forest gallant at a is here in moments with reaction. stay there ♪ my a1c was up here; now, it's down with rybelsus®. his a1c? it's down with rybe
but i want to see those two debate, give them an open forum, ronna mcdaniel has to put aside the sillyr the rnc. >> debating each other in their own events you are seeing the emails coming through. >> laura: trump is going to win but still that would be fascinating debate. >> going trying to distract away from the others. there is a two in second and third place. going at each other's throat. >> there is no debate. the base will not go for nikki haley. it's ron desantis....
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during the call, rnc chair woman ronna mcdaniel chimed, and telling the michigan officials, quote, wel get you attorneys. so, one, given this is a job, you have previously held, and we just quote as to how unusual it would be to suggest, that but how it underscores just how deep trumps coup attempt, how it took hold within the gop as an institution itself. >> it became part of the fabric of the organization. everybody was all in on helping trump survive and election that he clearly lost. the fact of the rnc chair woman was on this call and contributed the way she did, again, shows just how desperate and, you know, unfortunate that entanglement was. the reality of it is, she shouldn't have been on the call. and should not have offered attorneys to perpetuate, you know, a corrupt process. or at least a process they were trying to corrupt. that reality is, you now see at full circle. all the pieces coming in place, alicia. you've got not just the president of the united states. not just the party officials. but you also have that final piece, which are the election officials themselves w
during the call, rnc chair woman ronna mcdaniel chimed, and telling the michigan officials, quote, wel get you attorneys. so, one, given this is a job, you have previously held, and we just quote as to how unusual it would be to suggest, that but how it underscores just how deep trumps coup attempt, how it took hold within the gop as an institution itself. >> it became part of the fabric of the organization. everybody was all in on helping trump survive and election that he clearly lost....
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that ronna mcdaniel, the failed chairwoman of the rnc, needs to step aside after five failed years of leadership. why am i the only person who can say these things to you? i have learned a lot this year, i will tell you about this. i know why. it comes down to money. every politician dances to the tune of their biggest donor. in my case, that biggest donor is me. i don't dance to somebody else's tune, i refuse to be somebody else's circus monkey. i am not a pawn on a chess board. that is how politics of yesterday works, we are breaking that system. we are speaking the truth about -- without apology. that god is real. that there are two genders. fossil fuels are a requirement for human prosperity. that reverse racism is racism. that an open border is not a border. parents determine the education of their children. the nuclear family is not a bad word. it's the greatest form of governance known to mankind. capitalism is not something we need to apologize for, it is the best system we have to lift us up in poverty. not crony capitalism, but the real thing. there are three branches of gov
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it has been interesting to watch the commentary about ronna mcdaniel. many republicans are asking her to step down because she keeps losing. they've made an enormous gamble, republicans, by nominating trump. we have more opposition research, baggage, stuff that we can run against him in the last five presidential candidates combined. we should have a good year next year. >> simon rosenberg. my advice to democratic voters is you should worry when simon rosenberg is worried. you're not worried? >> i would say that i'm optimistic about where things are. we have a lot of work to do, and we've got to get on with the work and get it done. >> simon rosenberg, who is optimistic? thank you very much for joining us tonight. coming up, my interview with vice president kamala harris as we look ahead to the 2024 presidential election, which she says is, quote, the most important election in our lifetimes. vice president kamala harris is next. >>> kamala harris i next next >> children are the greatest joy and our best hope for a better future. friends, they are the f
it has been interesting to watch the commentary about ronna mcdaniel. many republicans are asking her to step down because she keeps losing. they've made an enormous gamble, republicans, by nominating trump. we have more opposition research, baggage, stuff that we can run against him in the last five presidential candidates combined. we should have a good year next year. >> simon rosenberg. my advice to democratic voters is you should worry when simon rosenberg is worried. you're not...
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mcdaniels allegedly pressured. in the end, they went through with certification, but had they caved and had there been a problem there, you know, it really would have put potentially american democracy in turmoil. it is another example of how former president trump tried to gum up the works to stay in power, and he argues he was acting as president, but, of course, the president has no role in state and local elections leading to the presidential election. and if the president was concerned about fraud, what he should have done and did do is go to the justice department and ask them to investigate. >> how could these alleged recordings play into trump's other cases? >> so, jose, once an elector has voted to certify, changing her vote is not a thing she can do, but that didn't stop trump from trying. so this is key evidence of trump's corrupt intent. the election interference indictment says that ag barr specifically told trump there was no evidence of fraud in detroit. but the very next day trump kept lying about i
mcdaniels allegedly pressured. in the end, they went through with certification, but had they caved and had there been a problem there, you know, it really would have put potentially american democracy in turmoil. it is another example of how former president trump tried to gum up the works to stay in power, and he argues he was acting as president, but, of course, the president has no role in state and local elections leading to the presidential election. and if the president was concerned...
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mcdaniel, and others involved in the call.comes as the supreme court yesterday says it would not immediately decide the key issue of whether former president donald trump has broad immunity for actions he took challenging the 2020 presidential election results. while the supreme court's decisions dealt with trump's ill actions after the 2020 election, the colorado state supreme court heard questions about trump's eligibility for election in 2024, and it delivered a historic answer. in a bombshell, 4 to 3 ruling, the court sided that trump is constitutionally barred from being on the 2024 colorado primary ballot under section three of the 14th amendment because he, quote, engaged in insurrection on january 6th, 2021, after swearing an oath as president to support the u.s. constitution. the decision overturns a lower court ruling that affirmed trump engaged in insurrection, but said that the statute did not apply to presidents. here's what colorado's democratic secretary of state, janet griswold, said on the matter. >> trump inc
mcdaniel, and others involved in the call.comes as the supreme court yesterday says it would not immediately decide the key issue of whether former president donald trump has broad immunity for actions he took challenging the 2020 presidential election results. while the supreme court's decisions dealt with trump's ill actions after the 2020 election, the colorado state supreme court heard questions about trump's eligibility for election in 2024, and it delivered a historic answer. in a...
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ronna mcdaniel is the chair of the rnc joining us this morning.tands christie hasn't qualified for wednesday's debate only three people have so far, does it matter? trump so far ahead. >> we are going through the process and delegates need to be awarded in bylaws, that's going to go through and voters will decide and if all the polls are saying similar things the polls are probably accurate. stuart: you want the field to narrow. >> the field has narrowed. >> the voters will narrow it i don't think it's our job to put the thumb on the scale although the criteria #the field and i did say this early on, i don't want people on the debate stage looking for media contractor book deals or cabinet positions and the fact that were heading into five heading into iowa does the process and how long it's worked. stuart: you would offer any comment who are not offering anybody any process. >> let's look at the primary calendar they completely walked away from iowa and new hampshire they're doing everything to protect joe biden and bubble wrapping him again, thi
ronna mcdaniel is the chair of the rnc joining us this morning.tands christie hasn't qualified for wednesday's debate only three people have so far, does it matter? trump so far ahead. >> we are going through the process and delegates need to be awarded in bylaws, that's going to go through and voters will decide and if all the polls are saying similar things the polls are probably accurate. stuart: you want the field to narrow. >> the field has narrowed. >> the voters will...
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mcdaniel personally pressured local officials to not certify biden's win in that state. does this revelation fit into the larger universe of trump's legal problems? >> you, know it does. i think we knew this call had taken place. we did not know its content. there was not a tape recording. prosecutors like to be able just to push the play button and let the juries hear a conversation for themselves, and the shows that president trump was involved at such a granular level of detail in the efforts to interfere with the vote counts. president of the united states placing a phone call to two republican county canvassers in wayne county in michigan. that is quite a phone call for the president to be on, particularly offering them legal counsel in exchange for their refusal to vote to certify the election. that is what they want. >> a big one, not a perfect phone call. joyce vance as always, thank you very much for coming to the show. >> thanks, jonathan. >> coming, up after returning to the holidays without a firm deal on the southern border, southern border security or ukrai
mcdaniel personally pressured local officials to not certify biden's win in that state. does this revelation fit into the larger universe of trump's legal problems? >> you, know it does. i think we knew this call had taken place. we did not know its content. there was not a tape recording. prosecutors like to be able just to push the play button and let the juries hear a conversation for themselves, and the shows that president trump was involved at such a granular level of detail in the...