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miss moss, shaye, told me tonight, justice was served. she said you know people shiite finally had a chance to hear me tell my story and miss freeman, ruby, said, and they listened. so setting aside the number for a moment, this was an incredible moment for miss freeman and miss moss. i think actually one of the most moving parts of the trial, being there, was when we played the deposition of the george investigators who actually investigated these claims and did all of the things that giuliani did not do, talk to witnesses, review the evidence. they went through, line by line, and said there is no truth to any of this. and in hearing them say that in a court, miss moss teared up. and then she was beaten beaming because the truth is established. it is out there, finally. as for the number, if you know ruby and shaye you know that they are true heroes. they came into this seeking justice, but not assuming anything because that's not the kind of people that they are. and so i think they are vindicated tonight and proud of the verdict that f
miss moss, shaye, told me tonight, justice was served. she said you know people shiite finally had a chance to hear me tell my story and miss freeman, ruby, said, and they listened. so setting aside the number for a moment, this was an incredible moment for miss freeman and miss moss. i think actually one of the most moving parts of the trial, being there, was when we played the deposition of the george investigators who actually investigated these claims and did all of the things that giuliani...
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will ruby freeman and shaye moss see any of that money? the attorney for the two women is out front. >>> also breaking, israel killing three of its own hostages. they believe they actually managed to escape hamas. >>> we'll talk to the father of an american hostage about whether he thinks his son may also be trying to escape. >>> and arizona calling up the national guard for help at the border. we're showing you the migrant surge that they are seeing there. let's go out front. >>> good evening, i'm erin burnett. the breaking news, $148 million. that is what rudy giuliani has been ordered to pay georgia election workers ruby freeman and shaye moss after conaccusin them of rigging the 2020 election. it's a jaw-dropping number. it is the actual verdict form that breaks down into numbers. ruby freeman awarded $16.1 million for defamation, $20 million for emotional s distress. shaye moss awarded $20 million for emotional distress. and then they were awarded $75 million in punitive damages. when you add that all together, that's where you get th
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i hope that shaye moss and reform this or something. i know it's not about the money, but the money is important. >> also for you and your client, dominion voting, the money was not just the issue, is also about symbolically going after somebody that the famed air client. dominion voting also looking at other defendants having active litigation right now to be able to deal with the defamation to their client. do you think that it makes sense for ruby freeman and shaye moss to continue to use the judicial system in the way it's supposed to be used, which is to seek redress, get something to make them whole again after what has happened with rudy giuliani and others? >> yes, of course it's harder for individuals because these cases taken emotional toll, they take their time, and the energy of the person -- dominion has cases pending in washington against sydney powell, against rudy giuliani, they have other cases pending in various forms against oan and newsmax. dominion plans to fight all of these perpetrators of the big it makes sense f
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the question now, will shaye moss and ruby freeman ever see a dime of the 148 million plus dollars he's been ordered to pay. >>> we now know what killed actor matthew perry, after taking a large amount of ketamine. dr. sanjay gupta joins us with details. good evening. thanks for joining us. >>> we begin with the steepest plunge yet for the man whose fall from grace rivals that of anyone in modern memory. 22 years ago, this was rudy giuliani, then mayor of new york and "time" magazine's 2001 person of the year, america's mayor some called him. former crime busting u.s. attorney. looking like a man on top of it. tonight after years of working for and lying for a man he'd likely have prosecuted in his former life, he learned the price to be paid for just a fraction of those lies, namely the ones he told about shaye moss and ruby freeman. two 2020 georgia election workers he defamed again and again, including outside his civil trial earlier this week and again today after the jury awarded moss and freeman $148 million in damages. that includes more than $16 million each for defamation, $20
the question now, will shaye moss and ruby freeman ever see a dime of the 148 million plus dollars he's been ordered to pay. >>> we now know what killed actor matthew perry, after taking a large amount of ketamine. dr. sanjay gupta joins us with details. good evening. thanks for joining us. >>> we begin with the steepest plunge yet for the man whose fall from grace rivals that of anyone in modern memory. 22 years ago, this was rudy giuliani, then mayor of new york and...
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but ruby freeman and shaye moss did testify earlier in the trial. can you remind people what they said? because, again, these were volunteers. >> they were. well, ruby freeman was a volunteer, and shaye moss was a paid georgia election worker who took quite a lot of pride in doing that job. and that's what she told the jury. but they both took the stand over the course of this week as the jury listened to them. and not only did they speak what they did after the 2020 election and how their names have been ruined, how they fear for their lives, how they are afraid to introduce themselves to others, they also when each were on the stand, there were voice mails, chilling voice mails, racist voice mails and text messages read and played for them. and then their lawyers had them react to them. and they described how scared they were, how they went to the police, how they were advised by the fbi to flee their home, and how terrifying it was not just in the days after the 2020 election as rudy giuliani and others were saying these things about them, but in
but ruby freeman and shaye moss did testify earlier in the trial. can you remind people what they said? because, again, these were volunteers. >> they were. well, ruby freeman was a volunteer, and shaye moss was a paid georgia election worker who took quite a lot of pride in doing that job. and that's what she told the jury. but they both took the stand over the course of this week as the jury listened to them. and not only did they speak what they did after the 2020 election and how...
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shaye moss testified before the january 6th investigation in congress. mom was right there sitting behind her as she testified about what the threats and harassment had done to her, how they had made her regret even becoming an elections worker in the first place, that job she loved. what happened to ruby freeman and shaye moss has resulted in criminal charges against several people, including rudy giuliani in georgia. because none of what was said about those two women, which resulted in their lives being turned upside down, none of it was true. part of the reason i can say confidently that we know none of it was true is because ruby freeman and shaye moss sued rudy giuliani for defamation, and giuliani admitted in the course of that case that what he said was false. and therefore, a federal judge found rudy giuliani liable, literally liable as in he has to pay for his lies about these two innocent women. and today, in federal court, a damages trial got under way in which jurors will decide how much money rudy giuliani has to pay ruby freeman and shaye
shaye moss testified before the january 6th investigation in congress. mom was right there sitting behind her as she testified about what the threats and harassment had done to her, how they had made her regret even becoming an elections worker in the first place, that job she loved. what happened to ruby freeman and shaye moss has resulted in criminal charges against several people, including rudy giuliani in georgia. because none of what was said about those two women, which resulted in their...
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she's the attorney for ruby freeman and shaye moss. i want to start by getting your reaction to the koconversation we've just had. your clients won. rudy giuliani remains unrepentant as you've heard from his representative. why don't you clarify for the american public, in addition to what i've said, what it is about giuliani that seems to say he did not have an opportunity to defend himself or that the judgment against him was somehow invalid? >> well, first of all, thanks so much for having me, laura. hopefully this conversation can go a little differently than the last one you just had. i think, you know, it seems mr. goodman is confused about what's happened over the past couple years in litigation, so i'd be happy to offer, you know, an explanation to him and anyone else wanting to understand. the way that litigation works, civil litigation works, which of course mr. giuliani, having been an attorney for, you know, half of a century, is well aware of is that the parties to a litigation engage in discovery, where they exchange rele
she's the attorney for ruby freeman and shaye moss. i want to start by getting your reaction to the koconversation we've just had. your clients won. rudy giuliani remains unrepentant as you've heard from his representative. why don't you clarify for the american public, in addition to what i've said, what it is about giuliani that seems to say he did not have an opportunity to defend himself or that the judgment against him was somehow invalid? >> well, first of all, thanks so much for...
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it matters a lot for ruby freeman and shaye moss. they were credited, heard.y got some measure of justice. it doesn't undo the harm, but there's the financial piece -- arguably not clear if that will ever be collected, but separate from that, they were credited. they got justice. everybody watching this from the outside learns from this as well. i hope it restores some faith that the system works, that when people are wronged, there's rye dress in court. big high-profile cases like this, when they're watched by lots of people, have cripple effects. maybe it affects rudy giuliani, and he no longer talks about the stolen election. i doubt that, but it had as impact on ruby freeman and shaye moss, and the people watching. >> though numbers are not guaranteed? they are not. there was a period of time where rudy giuliani and the post-9/11 world was commanding really big sums in hi consulting practice, as a private lawyer. those days are over. one of the reasons most people think rudy giuliani was so desperate to be donald trump's lawyer was in fact because that gra
it matters a lot for ruby freeman and shaye moss. they were credited, heard.y got some measure of justice. it doesn't undo the harm, but there's the financial piece -- arguably not clear if that will ever be collected, but separate from that, they were credited. they got justice. everybody watching this from the outside learns from this as well. i hope it restores some faith that the system works, that when people are wronged, there's rye dress in court. big high-profile cases like this, when...
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giuliani did defame ruby freeman and shaye moss. what the jury has to decide in the coming days is how much money rudy giuliani should have to pay these two women for that defamation. today in his closing statement freeman and moss' attorney asked the jurors to award the women $24 million each. and that is just in damages for their injuries. their attorney is also asking the jury to award punitive damages of whatever they think is appropriate in order to send a message to rudy giuliani. now, in this trial we have gotten even more detail about the threats freeman and moss faced because of giuliani's conspiracy. we heard a voice mail left on ruby freeman's answering machine threatening to burn her store down. people left messages saying she should be lynched. they described how they fantasized about hearing the sound of her neck snapped. and they found her and they intimidated her in her home. shaye moss was so afraid of trump's riled up supporters that in late 2020 she changed her hairstyle from this to this so that strangers wouldn'
giuliani did defame ruby freeman and shaye moss. what the jury has to decide in the coming days is how much money rudy giuliani should have to pay these two women for that defamation. today in his closing statement freeman and moss' attorney asked the jurors to award the women $24 million each. and that is just in damages for their injuries. their attorney is also asking the jury to award punitive damages of whatever they think is appropriate in order to send a message to rudy giuliani. now, in...
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what he owes ruby and shaye. but the jury is out on what he has. and we specifically asked for all information that would show us what his financial status looks like. and guess who didn't produce basically any of that information? rudy giuliani. so i would say that we have a very talented team of colleagues at the law firm wilkie and fire and gonna work diligently to track down every asset that he has and work to ensure that what he has rightly goes to ruby and shaye for what he owes them. >> do you think mr. giuliani's going to have to post a sizeable bond to stay the execution of thi agreement? >> that's a great question. the answer is, normally that is exactly what has to happen. we will see whether that is something that he intends to do. we intend to move as expeditiously as possible, including to get the court to weigh the automatic stay of execution so that we can start enforcement proceedings immediately. >> and finally, do you see any chance of rudy giuliani on giuliani saying this is gonna be turned over an appeal? is there any validity
what he owes ruby and shaye. but the jury is out on what he has. and we specifically asked for all information that would show us what his financial status looks like. and guess who didn't produce basically any of that information? rudy giuliani. so i would say that we have a very talented team of colleagues at the law firm wilkie and fire and gonna work diligently to track down every asset that he has and work to ensure that what he has rightly goes to ruby and shaye for what he owes them....
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you heard what shaye moss had to say today. tell me, why do you think rudy giuliani is doubling down now? >> i think he is taking a page out of trump's playbook. trump is defiant, he has been trashing the state attorney general, letitia james, after every court session. rudy is doing the same. he is given to access, that is for sure. you know, i wrote a column about him in october 9th, 2019, were i advised him to stay away from trump, tuesday away from freeman and parnas, and instead he returned to the ukraine the next day, he doubles down, as you said earlier. if you told him he made a bad hire, he would give that person a raise and a promotion. if you want him not to do something, you tell him the opposite. >> river psychology would have worked. maybe telling him go ahead and defame them, that would've made him stop? talk to me. here's what i'm asking, though. walk me through that psychology. what is it, what is at the court for him? is it that he is trying to emulate the courthouse conversation to trump, as you say, or is it
you heard what shaye moss had to say today. tell me, why do you think rudy giuliani is doubling down now? >> i think he is taking a page out of trump's playbook. trump is defiant, he has been trashing the state attorney general, letitia james, after every court session. rudy is doing the same. he is given to access, that is for sure. you know, i wrote a column about him in october 9th, 2019, were i advised him to stay away from trump, tuesday away from freeman and parnas, and instead he...
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i was really struck by one of the things shaye moss to other people. again, these two women were election workers. that was what put them in the crosshairs. here's what she had to say to other people who do that kind of work. >> as we move forward, and continue to seek justice, our greatest wishes that no one, no election worker or voter, or school board member, or anyone else, ever experiences anything like what we went through. you all matter, and you are all important. we hope no one ever has to fight so hard just to get your name back. >> what do you think the impact ends up being for that category of people? obviously, they got the worst of it in the country, i don't think there's even a question. but there were others who were also, and who have been continuously, in this era, harassed, doxxed, and the subjective lies. >> that's exactly right, chris. you may remember that press conference gabriel sterling gave on december 1st, 2020. so, before our clients were even targeted, he stood up and said to president trump, you're going to get somebody ki
i was really struck by one of the things shaye moss to other people. again, these two women were election workers. that was what put them in the crosshairs. here's what she had to say to other people who do that kind of work. >> as we move forward, and continue to seek justice, our greatest wishes that no one, no election worker or voter, or school board member, or anyone else, ever experiences anything like what we went through. you all matter, and you are all important. we hope no one...
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ruby freeman and shaye moss' legal team, they're a skilled team. and they're moving fast to collect the money that they can. so giuliani has been very public in the past several months saying he didn't even have money to fight this lawsuit that these two women brought against him and now he has a lot of debts. i mean, it's very substantial. when you look at them all stacked up, $146 million, just under that $150 million is what he's going to owe moss and freeman, attorneys' fees, other lawyers that he knows $1.4 million to. they're suing him for that separately. and then he had all of these unpaid phone bills that went through court. he has a lot of debts. that said, even though he has debts, ruby freeman and shaye moss are going to try and get at least some of the money they can out of him. at least a piece of it. and they are counting what he has. they have already identified, he has a manhattan co-op that he's trying to sell for more than $6 million. it hasn't sold yet. i just looked. but he has a condo in florida. they're going to try to grab t
ruby freeman and shaye moss' legal team, they're a skilled team. and they're moving fast to collect the money that they can. so giuliani has been very public in the past several months saying he didn't even have money to fight this lawsuit that these two women brought against him and now he has a lot of debts. i mean, it's very substantial. when you look at them all stacked up, $146 million, just under that $150 million is what he's going to owe moss and freeman, attorneys' fees, other lawyers...
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another 0 million for shaye moss on emotional distress. $75 millior both on punitive s. that's the $148.169 million. my question is hre you going to collect? at this moment, rudy giuliani owes $500,000 in unpaid taxes. the has a lien on his pm beach property. he's selling his upper east side property, and his consulting firm defaulted on a debt for a phone bill. how are you going to collect? >> sure. we have already put the pieces in motion for that. we are intending to collect every nickel of it. we'll see how much we ultimately find and how much we ultimately recover. but we are putting the pieces together right now. >> if you remember -- >> i'm sorry. some sound played. go ahead. keep going. >> we're putting those pieces in play right now. we were putting them in play prior to the verdict. so we intend to pursue this verdict. >> just to sort of help our audience understand how this works, can these ladies put a lien on his properties? would his tax returns be taken? like, pragmatically, how could you make him pay? >> every enforcement measure at our fingertips will be
another 0 million for shaye moss on emotional distress. $75 millior both on punitive s. that's the $148.169 million. my question is hre you going to collect? at this moment, rudy giuliani owes $500,000 in unpaid taxes. the has a lien on his pm beach property. he's selling his upper east side property, and his consulting firm defaulted on a debt for a phone bill. how are you going to collect? >> sure. we have already put the pieces in motion for that. we are intending to collect every...
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he started claiming ruby freeman and shaye moss, he he identified publicly by name, he said they hade election from donald trump in georgia. he said video from the state from arena which was running on a loop on fox news showed them acting like drug dealers, that was the language he used, he said the tape somehow show them stealing votes. after that ruby freeman and her daughter even her teenage grandson were inundated with vulgar and racist harassment and death threats. ruby freeman called 9-1-1 multiple times because people were showing about her door and banging, showing our house and banging on her door leaving threats. one of the people who showed up was part of a team of trump allies to prosecutors, they tried illegally to course ruby freeman into falsely confessing that she had committed election fraud. ruby freeman had to leave her home for weeks for her own safety on the advice of the fbi. she mostyska five publicly in front of the january six investigation in congress, her mom was right there sitting behind her as she testified be well or what the threats and harassment had
he started claiming ruby freeman and shaye moss, he he identified publicly by name, he said they hade election from donald trump in georgia. he said video from the state from arena which was running on a loop on fox news showed them acting like drug dealers, that was the language he used, he said the tape somehow show them stealing votes. after that ruby freeman and her daughter even her teenage grandson were inundated with vulgar and racist harassment and death threats. ruby freeman called...
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off their 148 million dollar court victory over rudy giuliani, the women he defamed, ruby freeman and shaye moss, are now filing a new lawsuit against rudy. >>> but we begin tonight with the phrase, poisoning the blood of our country. if it sounds like nazi talk, it's because it is. in chapter 11 of adolf hitler's fascist manifesto he writes, all great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning. that little turn of phrase has since been parroted by other autocrats like the far right leader of hungary, viktor orban, has described muslim, middle eastern asylum seekers as a poison. this is the same guy who said he opposes immigration because it leads to, quote, mixed race europeans. now the phrase is being repeated by the leading republican candidate for president, donald trump. he had a rally, we wasn't quoting vladimir putin, praising orban, or praising insurrectionists as hostages, had this to say about immigrants. >> they let, i think the real number is 15, 16 million people into our country, when they do that, we have a lot of wor
off their 148 million dollar court victory over rudy giuliani, the women he defamed, ruby freeman and shaye moss, are now filing a new lawsuit against rudy. >>> but we begin tonight with the phrase, poisoning the blood of our country. if it sounds like nazi talk, it's because it is. in chapter 11 of adolf hitler's fascist manifesto he writes, all great cultures of the past perished only because the originally creative race died out from blood poisoning. that little turn of phrase has...
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ruby freeman and shaye moss sued rudy giuliani for defamation. the course of that case what he said was false, and therefore a federal judge found rudy giuliani liable, literally liable as in he has to pay for his lies about these two innocent women and today in federal court a damages trial got under way in which jurors will decide how much money rudy giuliani has to pay ruby freeman and sheae moss for what he did to them. that comp scission could reach as high as $43 million. additional punitive damages could amount to -- the sky's the limit. one way to look at what happened today as the latest chapter of rudy giuliani's descent, the judge in the defamation case has already rebuked rudy giuliani for failing to show up in court last week. today he showed up to court 20 minutes late and then forgot to rebuckle his belt after he'd taken it off to go through the metal detector, and his unbuckled belt hung there at his waste for a few minutes before the trial got started. hey, howdy, counselor. check your barn door. the other way to look at this tri
ruby freeman and shaye moss sued rudy giuliani for defamation. the course of that case what he said was false, and therefore a federal judge found rudy giuliani liable, literally liable as in he has to pay for his lies about these two innocent women and today in federal court a damages trial got under way in which jurors will decide how much money rudy giuliani has to pay ruby freeman and sheae moss for what he did to them. that comp scission could reach as high as $43 million. additional...
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he might get the damages reduced some, but it's a longer shot for ruby freeman and shaye moss to everer much money out of him. he's basically broke. but this case was clearly never part of their goal was to get any of the money. it was really about justice. >> terry moran, thank you. >>> we turn to the death of matthew perry. late today we learned the cause of death, the coroner releasing the autopsy report. >> reporter: tonight an autopsy revealing the 54-year-old "friends" star matthew perry died of the acute effects of the drug ketamine after losing consciousness and likely slipping under the water in his hot tub. according to the medical examiner, perry was "reported to be receiving ketamine infusion therapy for depression and anxiety" with the last treatment a week and a half before his death. but the investigation concluded the ketamine in his system could not be from that infusion therapy because the drug typically clears the system in a few hours. ketamine is a common anesthetic and is also legally used for treatment resistant depression. but it also can be used as recreationa
he might get the damages reduced some, but it's a longer shot for ruby freeman and shaye moss to everer much money out of him. he's basically broke. but this case was clearly never part of their goal was to get any of the money. it was really about justice. >> terry moran, thank you. >>> we turn to the death of matthew perry. late today we learned the cause of death, the coroner releasing the autopsy report. >> reporter: tonight an autopsy revealing the 54-year-old...
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just listen to this example of threatening voice mails left for ruby freeman and shaye moss. they were actually played in court today. they were emails full of obscene and racist threats. i'm going play some for you. but i'm going warn you, not only are they disturbing, they were directed at people who just community as election workers. >> you're going to jail, ruby. you're going to get locked up, ruby. that's election fraud, ruby. what was on the usb drive, ruby? you're all going to [ bleep ] jail, you piece of [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> hey, this is shaye. i hope you like jail, because that's where you're going, on your way to hell. >> and based on what were these taunts relayed? i mean, imagine if you picked up your phone and there was a message like that on it. and frankly, some of the other ones are so riddled with obscenities, so riddled with vicious racial slurs, we have to actually beep out most of them, making it entirely incomprehensible. today we actually heard from shaye moss herself, and she said that her worst fear, and imagine this, after being an election worker
just listen to this example of threatening voice mails left for ruby freeman and shaye moss. they were actually played in court today. they were emails full of obscene and racist threats. i'm going play some for you. but i'm going warn you, not only are they disturbing, they were directed at people who just community as election workers. >> you're going to jail, ruby. you're going to get locked up, ruby. that's election fraud, ruby. what was on the usb drive, ruby? you're all going to [...
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one of the attorneys the represented shaye moss and ruby freeman in their defamation case. i know you're happy about this verdict. how are you clients feeling about this truly staggering $148 million verdict against giuliani for defaming them? >> as lady ruby put it, it's a good day. it's one step on a long journey for them toward accountability and toward trying to rebuild their lives. but today was a good day for them. >> what do you make of giuliani sticking by his awful lies and comments about your two clients? >> for me, it really highlights the importance of this kind of accountability. we're quite hopeful that this verdict will make a difference there and we're going to continue to pursue that verdict. >> you know what surprised me, the verdict was, what, about $100 million more than your clients had originally asked for, right? >> the total was $148 million across the three categories of damages. some of which we had put numbers on for the jury and some of which we leave the jury to come up with numbers on their own. i think they were moved by the clients' testimony
one of the attorneys the represented shaye moss and ruby freeman in their defamation case. i know you're happy about this verdict. how are you clients feeling about this truly staggering $148 million verdict against giuliani for defaming them? >> as lady ruby put it, it's a good day. it's one step on a long journey for them toward accountability and toward trying to rebuild their lives. but today was a good day for them. >> what do you make of giuliani sticking by his awful lies and...
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shaye moss and ruby freeman are we know very strong and very compelling witnesses. i think there's every reason to believe that the jury is going to lean in their direction in a significant, monumental way. >> giuliani's lawyers say he doesn't have deep pockets. how do you read that? >> well, what they're trying to say is, to discourage the jury from awarding a very high amount on the theory that he wouldn't be able to pay it anyway. i suspect that's not going to be so persuasive. there have been other circumstances in other cases that mr. giuliani has been involved with where he's hosted fund-raisers, had third parties pay off some of his debt. he has found ways in other contests to be able to pay. now, if they come back with tens of millions of dollars, then that certainly will be challenging for him to have to pay. but there's a wide range of what in terms of dollar amounts, of what this jury might come back with, both in terms of trying to compensated the plaintiffs for the actual reputational harm that they suffered as well as in terms of punitive damages to pu
shaye moss and ruby freeman are we know very strong and very compelling witnesses. i think there's every reason to believe that the jury is going to lean in their direction in a significant, monumental way. >> giuliani's lawyers say he doesn't have deep pockets. how do you read that? >> well, what they're trying to say is, to discourage the jury from awarding a very high amount on the theory that he wouldn't be able to pay it anyway. i suspect that's not going to be so persuasive....
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giuliani recited as part of a new lawsuit against him from ruby freeman and shaye moss. it seeks to permanently bar mr. giuliani from persisting in his defamatory campaign against ruby freeman and shaye moss. michael gottlieb is one of the attorneys representing them. thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me on, rachel. >> what would this new lawsuit do that the first one didn't? >> so, the first suit was a suit for both damages and some other forms of relief like declaratory relief. this is a suit in which we are seeking a permanent injunction to prevent mr. giuliani from saying the same false statements about our clients that he has been making since december of 2020 and which he had a full opportunity to prove to be true if he chose so. he opted out. he defaulted and so after a finding by a jury awarding him damages we don't believe he should be able to continue telling the same lies out on the street that he has been unable to defend and prove in court. >> the massive damages that your clients obtained was not enough to stop him. how would a permanent injunction
giuliani recited as part of a new lawsuit against him from ruby freeman and shaye moss. it seeks to permanently bar mr. giuliani from persisting in his defamatory campaign against ruby freeman and shaye moss. michael gottlieb is one of the attorneys representing them. thanks for your time. >> thanks for having me on, rachel. >> what would this new lawsuit do that the first one didn't? >> so, the first suit was a suit for both damages and some other forms of relief like...
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yes, it will stall the recovery that ruby freeman and shaye moss get. justice will still be theirs, and in the meantime, his humiliation is there for all the public to see as americas mayor becomes america's most recent debtor. >> wow, i mean the fall from grace is been spectacular, it's apparently not over yet. lisa reuben, thank you for staying late tonight. >> thank you having me. >> great to see. when we come back, we finally know, finally, at long last, we finally know who all those election fraud task forces have been focused on. the answer is next. the answer is next developed with vets. made from real meat and veggies. portioned for your dog. and delivered right to your door. it's smarter, healthier pet food. (singing )i'll be home for christmas. you can plan on me. please have snow and mistletoe. and presents on the tree. right now all over the country kids at shriners hospitals for children are able to go home and be with their families for the holidays. and that's only possible because of the monthly donations from people like you. thanks to
yes, it will stall the recovery that ruby freeman and shaye moss get. justice will still be theirs, and in the meantime, his humiliation is there for all the public to see as americas mayor becomes america's most recent debtor. >> wow, i mean the fall from grace is been spectacular, it's apparently not over yet. lisa reuben, thank you for staying late tonight. >> thank you having me. >> great to see. when we come back, we finally know, finally, at long last, we finally know...
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the jury spoke on behalf of voiceless people like ruby and shaye.t the people who would say things like this about things that people were doing their jobs -- they will now understand that their lives have a price tag. >> so, von, you testified yourself at a bond revocation hearing for harrison floyd, one of the codefendants and donald trump's r.i.c.o. case which is being prosecuted by d.a. fani willis in fulton county. here is another thing some people might not know. harrison floyd showed up in the d.c. courthouse to allegedly show his support for rudy giuliani. let's be clear, he was indicted in fulton county for intimidating ruby freeman and shaye moss. do you think that harrison floyd is showing up in court was an attempt to intimidate miss freeman and miss moss? >> i can't say what it was from his perspective. it certainly was no mistake that he showed up in that courthouse. when he was there, who took out appropriate measures to ensure their safety. this just underscores the ridiculousness of this situation. we would have to scramble the way
the jury spoke on behalf of voiceless people like ruby and shaye.t the people who would say things like this about things that people were doing their jobs -- they will now understand that their lives have a price tag. >> so, von, you testified yourself at a bond revocation hearing for harrison floyd, one of the codefendants and donald trump's r.i.c.o. case which is being prosecuted by d.a. fani willis in fulton county. here is another thing some people might not know. harrison floyd...
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friday a jury ordered trump lawyer rudy giuliani to play election workers ruby freeman and shaye mossasis lie that they rigged the election, about 15 minutes after the jury made that decision. mr. giuliani stepped outside the courthouse, and he did it again. >> do you still believe what you said about these two women in the wake of the 2020 election was truthful? do you still believe these claims? >> i have no doubt that my comments were made, and they were support-able and our support-able today. >> today those comments by mr. giuliani were cited in part of a new lawsuit against him from ruby freeman and shaye moss, the new suit's seeks to permanently barr giuliani from persisting in his defamatory campaign against ruby freeman and shaye moss. >> joining us now is mr. gottlieb, one of the eternities for freeman and moss. >> thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> what will this lawsuit do that the first one didn't. >> the first one was a suit for damages and other forms of relief, declaratory refute. this is a suit where we are seeking a permanent injunction to prevent
friday a jury ordered trump lawyer rudy giuliani to play election workers ruby freeman and shaye mossasis lie that they rigged the election, about 15 minutes after the jury made that decision. mr. giuliani stepped outside the courthouse, and he did it again. >> do you still believe what you said about these two women in the wake of the 2020 election was truthful? do you still believe these claims? >> i have no doubt that my comments were made, and they were support-able and our...
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they spoke on behalf of the voiceless people like ruby freeman and shaye moss. the message that has been sent is that powerful folks like rudy giuliani cannot lie like he did in this case. the message the jury sent today is that lies have a price tag. >> he -- you know, that moment when you saw the two of them speaking, they seemed to get a bit emotional, understandably at the end, after they both finished speaking to reporters. how are they doing tonight? >> like ruby said, today is a good day. but there is a lot more work to be done. i don't think they can ever be fully restored to what they were before. of course that's what they would prefer to be, what they used to be, you know, not looking over your shoulder when you go out to the grocery store, being able to give people your name when you meet them. those are small things that they now cannot do. i don't know that they'll ever get back to the point where they have those freedoms that they had before all of this. >> do they expect that they'll see any of this money, given what we've known and reported abou
they spoke on behalf of the voiceless people like ruby freeman and shaye moss. the message that has been sent is that powerful folks like rudy giuliani cannot lie like he did in this case. the message the jury sent today is that lies have a price tag. >> he -- you know, that moment when you saw the two of them speaking, they seemed to get a bit emotional, understandably at the end, after they both finished speaking to reporters. how are they doing tonight? >> like ruby said, today...
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yes, it will stall the recovery that ruby freeman and shaye moss get.will still be theirs, and in the meantime, his humiliation is there for all the public to see as americas mayor becomes america 's most recent debtor. >> wow, i mean the fall from grace is been spectacular, it's apparently not over yet. lisa reuben, thank you for staying late tonight. >> thank you having me. >> great to see. when we come back, we finally know, finally, at long last, we finally know who all those election fraud task forces have been focused on. the answer is next. i got this $1,000 camera for only $41 on dealdash. dealdash.com, online auctions since 2009. this playstation 5 sold for only 50 cents. this ipad pro sold for less than $34. and this nintendo switch, sold for less than $20. i got this kitchenaid stand mixer for only $56. i got this bbq smoker for 26 bucks. and shipping is always free. go to dealdash.com right now and see how much you can save. ♪ i'm gonna hold you forever... ♪ ♪ i'll be there... ♪ ♪ you don't... ♪ ♪ you don't have to worry... ♪ are you still s
yes, it will stall the recovery that ruby freeman and shaye moss get.will still be theirs, and in the meantime, his humiliation is there for all the public to see as americas mayor becomes america 's most recent debtor. >> wow, i mean the fall from grace is been spectacular, it's apparently not over yet. lisa reuben, thank you for staying late tonight. >> thank you having me. >> great to see. when we come back, we finally know, finally, at long last, we finally know who all...
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shaye moss and ruby freeman, you won the year.ael beschloss, paul butler, david jolly, and errin haynes, the most important people in an election are the election workers. >>> a special surprise guest, he's one of the most famous people in the world, y'all, he's swamped with work but graciously agreed to take a few minutes to chat with us. see if you can guess who that is, and we'll be right back. we'. we're traveling all across america talking to people about their hearts. who wants to talk about their heart? [honking] how's the heart? how's your heart? how's your heart? - it's good. - is it? - i don't know. - it's okay. - it's okay. - yeah. - good. - you sure? - i think so. - how do you know? it doesn't come with a manual and you're like oh, i got the 20,000 day check up, right? let me show you something. put two fingers right on those pads. look at that. that's your heart. that is pretty awesome. with kardiamobile, you can take a medical grade ekg in just 30 seconds from anywhere. kardiamobile is proven to detect atrial fibrill
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giuliani's debt to ruby freeman and shaye mauze. now, in an effort to make some extra income, rudy giuliani has been making short video on cameo for the last few years. >> i'm a little teapot short and stout. happy birthday, molly. i understand your birth a.i. is coming up. here's my handle, here's my spout. >> oh, my god, okay. the former trump attorney also appears to be selling supplements during his live stream show. all right, dave. first of all, have you taken rudy's supplements, yes or no? >> no, and he also wants you to use the supplements as a christmas tree ornament. that's what he was doing in that last video. i kid you not. can't make this up. >> i haven't seen that one. in a more serious matter, dave, the pay out to ruby freeman and shaye moss, it won't be affected by giuliani and his bankruptcy filing, but what about the other legal debts and legal case. how does the filing impact those? could a judge say, look, he doesn't have money, i can't force him to pay what he doesn't have? >> yeah, you can't get a blow from a s
giuliani's debt to ruby freeman and shaye mauze. now, in an effort to make some extra income, rudy giuliani has been making short video on cameo for the last few years. >> i'm a little teapot short and stout. happy birthday, molly. i understand your birth a.i. is coming up. here's my handle, here's my spout. >> oh, my god, okay. the former trump attorney also appears to be selling supplements during his live stream show. all right, dave. first of all, have you taken rudy's...
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our entire election system depends on people like ruby and shaye.n this case about a whole lot more than defamation? just about protecting our democracy and the american people? think about what these two women went through. >> you are 100 percent right i'm so brad you bring up the topic here because it's not about these two individuals, it's not about what just happened in georgia or what happened in d. c.. it's a whole entire assault on our democracy, on our election system. these people keep on and insisting that they won the election and cockamamie lives which have been debunked time and time again. so much so that this weekend jacks mitt filed something in d. c. court saying that trump keeps saying that there is evidence out there that i won the election, let me tell you all the people that i talked to, jack smith and it included 12 different trump officials including trump's head of the cia, all of trump's national security people, trump's top doj people, and every one of them said, no trump lost. there was nothing to this. but still they weav
our entire election system depends on people like ruby and shaye.n this case about a whole lot more than defamation? just about protecting our democracy and the american people? think about what these two women went through. >> you are 100 percent right i'm so brad you bring up the topic here because it's not about these two individuals, it's not about what just happened in georgia or what happened in d. c.. it's a whole entire assault on our democracy, on our election system. these...
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he's been ordered to pay georgia election workers shaye moss and ruby freeman, more than $148 million in damages. that includes 60 million to benefit him for defamation, 20 million each for emotional distress plus another 75 million in punitive damages. the judge ruled earlier this year that giuliani defamed the two women, basically accusing boss and freeman of election fraud that led to vicious attacks and threats against both women. here's what they had to say after today's verdict. >> i spent ten years as an election worker in fulton county georgia. the lies rudy giuliani told me about me and my mommy after the 2020 presidential election have changed our lives. the past few years have been devastating. my greatest wish is that no one, no election worker or voter or school board member or anyone else ever experiences anything like what we have been through. you all matter, and you are all important. >> i want people to understand this, money will never solve all of my problems. i can never move back into the house that i called home. i will always have to be careful about where i go
he's been ordered to pay georgia election workers shaye moss and ruby freeman, more than $148 million in damages. that includes 60 million to benefit him for defamation, 20 million each for emotional distress plus another 75 million in punitive damages. the judge ruled earlier this year that giuliani defamed the two women, basically accusing boss and freeman of election fraud that led to vicious attacks and threats against both women. here's what they had to say after today's verdict. >>...
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yesterdaya ry awarded ruby freeman and shaye moss a total of 100 and $48 million in damages as a result of their civil this defamation lawsuit against really giuliani who repeatedly and falsely accused him of carrying out a elaborate election fraud scheme without producing a shred of evidence that could withstand scrutiny. the verdict is a new low for giuliani, who rose up the ranks of new york politics early in his career, but has been on a downward spiral for the better part of the past two decades. he's gone from being americas mere to a codefendant indicted alongside his longtime pal donald trump in fulton county's sprawling r.i.c.o. case. on top of, that giuliani faces a number of other lou legal troubles. yesterday' wondered 48 million-dollar verdict pulsing comparison to the 1.3 billion dollars that dominion voting systems to seeking and damages in its own a defamation offshoot against him. giuliani is also named as a defendant in smartmatic's 2.7 billion dollar lawsuit against fox news and other trump world figures who spread baseless conspiracy theories linking their voting mac
yesterdaya ry awarded ruby freeman and shaye moss a total of 100 and $48 million in damages as a result of their civil this defamation lawsuit against really giuliani who repeatedly and falsely accused him of carrying out a elaborate election fraud scheme without producing a shred of evidence that could withstand scrutiny. the verdict is a new low for giuliani, who rose up the ranks of new york politics early in his career, but has been on a downward spiral for the better part of the past two...
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he might get the damages reduced some, but it's a longer shot for ruby freeman and shaye moss to everecover much money out of him. he's basically broke. it wasn't their goal to get the money. it was really about justice. >> terry moran, thank you. >>> we turn to the death of matthew perry, the coroner releasing the autopsy report. >> reporter: tonight, an autopsy revealing the 54-year-old "friends" star died of the acute effects of ketamine after losing consciousness in his hot tub. perry was reporting to be receiving ketamine infusion therapy for exc anxiety. the drug typically clears the system in a few hours. ketamine is a common anesthetic and also legally used for treatment-resistant depression. but it can also be used as a recreational drug with euphoric and psychedelic effects. >> it's very dangerous when you use it in a body of water, in a hot tub or a pool, because you become so sedated. >> reporter: perry fought his way back from decades of ravaging addiction. >> 55 a day. >> reporter: perry detailing that struggle in his memoir with the hope of helping others with their own
he might get the damages reduced some, but it's a longer shot for ruby freeman and shaye moss to everecover much money out of him. he's basically broke. it wasn't their goal to get the money. it was really about justice. >> terry moran, thank you. >>> we turn to the death of matthew perry, the coroner releasing the autopsy report. >> reporter: tonight, an autopsy revealing the 54-year-old "friends" star died of the acute effects of ketamine after losing...
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shaye moss spoke of how her life changed when trump's former lawyers spoke about conspiracy lies about her leading to death threats. i'm most scared of my mom finding me or my son finding me outside on a tree or having to get the news from school that haze mama was skilled. and also hearing some of the mose racist and violent threats she and her mom received. and i will warn you these are graphic threats. >> have a nice life. >> this is shaye. >> a federal judge has already found rudy giuliani guilty of defamation. before we go an important programming note. my friend anna bash is goat to sit down with nikki haley and governor chris sununu endorsing her of course tomorrow at noon, and you'll want to see that with dana. thanks so much for joining us. ac 360 starts now. >>> tonight on "360" with ukraine's president in washington seeking more aid and congressional republicans resisting, president biden now says the u.s. will support ukraine for as long as it can instead of as long as it takes. >>> also tonight harrowing testimony from a georgia election workering about what the lies rudy
shaye moss spoke of how her life changed when trump's former lawyers spoke about conspiracy lies about her leading to death threats. i'm most scared of my mom finding me or my son finding me outside on a tree or having to get the news from school that haze mama was skilled. and also hearing some of the mose racist and violent threats she and her mom received. and i will warn you these are graphic threats. >> have a nice life. >> this is shaye. >> a federal judge has already...
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testify, and he would double down and explain himself, and continue talking about ruby freeman and shayes and backing up the lies that he told about them after the 2020 election, and this is a man who rarely misses an opportunity to speak in front of the microphone, and yet he did this morning confirm, and the lawyer confirmed and the spokesman confirmed that he is not going to testify in his own defense, and he was going to be the obl defense witness in his own defense, and the way it has played out here, they have heard deeply emotional testimony, really gripping and scary stuff from voice mails that were sent and left on the voice mails of shaye moss and ruby freeman, the two georgia workers in the days after rudy giuliani said things about them that were lies and racist comments, and things that made them feel as though people would come to their house, and potentially kill them. yesterday, we heard a 911 phone call from ruby freeman because she had called the police in early 2020 saying that people were banging on the door at her house. after that, she had to flee, and she felt home
testify, and he would double down and explain himself, and continue talking about ruby freeman and shayes and backing up the lies that he told about them after the 2020 election, and this is a man who rarely misses an opportunity to speak in front of the microphone, and yet he did this morning confirm, and the lawyer confirmed and the spokesman confirmed that he is not going to testify in his own defense, and he was going to be the obl defense witness in his own defense, and the way it has...
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i know ruby and shaye well. i got to know them over the course of this challenging time.ud that so this the whole way through. and it seems a strong message to anyone who would try to interfere with our elections for attack our election workers, because if you do, so you might find yourself in court and facing bankruptcy and significant penalties. so i'm grateful for the process playing out the way it did here. >> a strong message indeed. michigan secretary of state, jocelyn benson. thank you for being here on ayman tonight. coming up after the break, a big win for new york democrats ahead of the 2024 election. we'll get to that and a lot more. so stay tuned, you're watching ayman on msnbc. i'm charles coleman junior and we will be right back. will be right back. when people switch their dog's food from kibble to the farmer's dog, they often say that it feels like magic. but there's no magic involved. (dog bark) it's simply fresh meat and vegetables, with all the nutrients dogs need— instead of dried pellets. just food made for the health of dogs. delivered in packs porti
i know ruby and shaye well. i got to know them over the course of this challenging time.ud that so this the whole way through. and it seems a strong message to anyone who would try to interfere with our elections for attack our election workers, because if you do, so you might find yourself in court and facing bankruptcy and significant penalties. so i'm grateful for the process playing out the way it did here. >> a strong message indeed. michigan secretary of state, jocelyn benson. thank...
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ruby freeman and shaye moss, they pointed out that giuliani owned property in florida and new york, hisk apartment is on the market right now. they also pointed to his contract with newsmax, for a show, so they have pointed out that rudy giuliani has money, and now the judge is saying, you can immediately, starting today, go after that money and try to collect your verdict. >> and i know that ruby freeman and shaye moss have also filed another lawsuit against rudy giuliani. what are they suing him for in this new suit? >> pretty quickly after we saw the verdict on friday. they didn't stop. they filed another lawsuit, trying to stop rudy giuliani from making any further comments about them. obviously, this was part of a huge defamation case that ruby freeman and shaye moss won, and then because of the comments that rudy giuliani made outside the courtroom during the course of this four- day trial, these women went to court again and filed another lawsuit and asked a court to stop rudy giuliani from saying anything further, even though their original case had concluded. so this is an ongo
ruby freeman and shaye moss, they pointed out that giuliani owned property in florida and new york, hisk apartment is on the market right now. they also pointed to his contract with newsmax, for a show, so they have pointed out that rudy giuliani has money, and now the judge is saying, you can immediately, starting today, go after that money and try to collect your verdict. >> and i know that ruby freeman and shaye moss have also filed another lawsuit against rudy giuliani. what are they...
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shaye moss and ruby freeman were awarded nearly $150 million here.oved to sue him to basically get him to stop telling lies. which he's continued to do in the wake of this. is this something that could -- actually has legs? >> first of all, we have to call this out every time. what a disgrace by rudy giuliani. everything he said was a lie. what he said about shaye moss and ruby freeman is a lie and what he said about the trial is a lie. he had plenty of opportunity to put on his own evidence. he was not prevented. now, ms. moss and freeman sued rudy giuliani again. they can keep suing him every time he defames them if they want. >> why are they suing him? >> this is where we'll run into a little bit of a legal problem. they're asking the judge to prohibit rudy giuliani from speaking about them. i totally get that. i understand why they want that. the problem is our constitution, the first amendment, is very, very resistant to impose prior restraints. meaning you can say something and then be punished for it. there can be consequences. you can be sued
shaye moss and ruby freeman were awarded nearly $150 million here.oved to sue him to basically get him to stop telling lies. which he's continued to do in the wake of this. is this something that could -- actually has legs? >> first of all, we have to call this out every time. what a disgrace by rudy giuliani. everything he said was a lie. what he said about shaye moss and ruby freeman is a lie and what he said about the trial is a lie. he had plenty of opportunity to put on his own...
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and i just appreciate ruby freeman and shaye moss flora fighting this fight. the headline is $148 million, we know that no amount of money will account for the anguish, the stress, the trauma that they've experienced since november 2020. and i think that something we need to keep in mind. because again, these election workers are merely doing the work of our democracy, making sure people can cast their votes and their votes are counted. and what giuliani did and the situation was try to leverage them within the entire line that trump was pushing. and so again, i hope this is a warning call to anyone else who's considering doing anything like this again in 2024. >> susan, before i move on, your take on this whole giuliani saga? >> absolutely, i agree juanita with. the soft as a valuable message, saying, you'll be held accountable. i keep thinking about how fortunate we were in 2022 that we didn't see a lot of violence at all. i'm hoping again for 2024, we'll see zero violence at the polls. but these women are heroes. i know election workers, i've worked with th
and i just appreciate ruby freeman and shaye moss flora fighting this fight. the headline is $148 million, we know that no amount of money will account for the anguish, the stress, the trauma that they've experienced since november 2020. and i think that something we need to keep in mind. because again, these election workers are merely doing the work of our democracy, making sure people can cast their votes and their votes are counted. and what giuliani did and the situation was try to...