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allen weisselberg was greedy. look at what allen weisselberg and blame him, and even then allen weisselberg did not flip on trump. you know, he has now gone to jail for trump not just once but twice. he is the d.a.'s office has done everything they can to try and get allen weisselberg to flip on trump. it's not happening. don't expect him to come in and be a great witness for the state. the state knows they can't call him, and that's why they're trying to find some way to explain his absence to the jury through this severance jury. >> madeleine westerhout, you had a chance to observe today. in many ways although she didn't serve nearly as long as weisselberg has, she is someone who is this young woman, she's trying to make her way in the world. she finds herself surrounded by some of the most powerful people in the world and arguably ultimately, the most powerful person in the world. donald trump going with him to the white house, somebody who, frankly, she clearly admired and still admires in spite of the fact th
allen weisselberg was greedy. look at what allen weisselberg and blame him, and even then allen weisselberg did not flip on trump. you know, he has now gone to jail for trump not just once but twice. he is the d.a.'s office has done everything they can to try and get allen weisselberg to flip on trump. it's not happening. don't expect him to come in and be a great witness for the state. the state knows they can't call him, and that's why they're trying to find some way to explain his absence to...
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weisselberg. >> but the judge said no, we can't have that in this trial. >> the judge also said on friday, he suggested that the prosecutors, david, could call allen weisselberg, that he could come and do what he's going to do -- oh, david's gone. he could take the fifth against self-incrimination or he could say whatever he is going to say and i wonder, first of all, do you think that they should do that, and if that would happen, though, what kind of signal does it send to jurors if somebody comes who is at the heart of these conversations about money and just says i take the fifth. >> from the prosecutor's perspective you have to think about how that impacts it overall and how helpful it's going to be as opposed to your burden. is it going to be better for me to put him on the stand and maybe answer some of these questions or have him sit up there, take the fifth, which i think that's probably what they expect, right? or not be able to answer a lot of the questions because of his limitations an
weisselberg. >> but the judge said no, we can't have that in this trial. >> the judge also said on friday, he suggested that the prosecutors, david, could call allen weisselberg, that he could come and do what he's going to do -- oh, david's gone. he could take the fifth against self-incrimination or he could say whatever he is going to say and i wonder, first of all, do you think that they should do that, and if that would happen, though, what kind of signal does it send to jurors...
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he sent one to allen weisselberg. where we're seeing this train going, wait for it, allen weisselberg and michael cohen came up with a scheme on their own and we've gotten shades of that, but we really started to see it take shape today and i think we're going to continue the idea that cohen and weisselberg came up with it. i wonder, if we were to get allen weisselberg on the stand and but you wonder where allen weisselberg would land on that. part of the defense is that this was a scheme cooked up between the two of them, and donald trump was just busy doing a bunch of other stuff and had no idea that this payment was happening. >> i mean, what -- what westerhout requires is for you to impeach donald trump. it's trump's words that said i look at every check, it came in the testimony from his publisher and his ghost writer who talked about how hands on he was and ghost writing in his own words. the other piece is a jury would then -- i'm sure you're right, sue's always right -- but a jury would then be asked to swallo
he sent one to allen weisselberg. where we're seeing this train going, wait for it, allen weisselberg and michael cohen came up with a scheme on their own and we've gotten shades of that, but we really started to see it take shape today and i think we're going to continue the idea that cohen and weisselberg came up with it. i wonder, if we were to get allen weisselberg on the stand and but you wonder where allen weisselberg would land on that. part of the defense is that this was a scheme...
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he tries to get weisselberg. and it's only him, where his loyalty is ultimately repaid in very poor kind. the short answer is yes, it was all of a piece. it was cogent. and that will be their main strategy, is to savage him so much that they can get those details. because the rest of them -- >> the things that only he can -- >> and they are specifically the very points that you're talking about now in october, in january and february. where trump of course is all over it and trump says you guys go take care of it. he signs off on it. we know that it is phony baloney to call it income and it's all rigged in a way that only makes sense. so i think that even if they savage him if he continues to say yep, my ego was there, yes i lied, et cetera, then he comes through in exactly that material. and that's what matters now. >> how instrumental was his testimony around some evidence that's already been presented to the jury, and that's the allen weisselberg notes on the invoice for the original 130 wire transfer to storm
he tries to get weisselberg. and it's only him, where his loyalty is ultimately repaid in very poor kind. the short answer is yes, it was all of a piece. it was cogent. and that will be their main strategy, is to savage him so much that they can get those details. because the rest of them -- >> the things that only he can -- >> and they are specifically the very points that you're talking about now in october, in january and february. where trump of course is all over it and trump...
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. >> but it's michael cohen and weisselberg. i mean, these are their conversations, we can do this but it's a trump golf course. >> i think if you're talking about hi jinx and shenanigans, i love your use of words, it's also maybe relatable or gives it more credibility when you hear somebody saying, well, i've got prep school tuitions and i've got summer camp. >> i don't know about the prep school business. >> prep school costs a lot of money. 70 grand a pop in some schools here in the city. let me ask about the defense. why haven't we seen a lot of objections? >> that is a question for the ages. there have been many times i think they could have objected. when it comes to the prosecution asking leading questions on direct. that's a judgment call. you don't want to appear to be hiding anything by objecting too much. there's a strategy there. the more you object, the jury might see you as having something to hide, but that being said, i think i can fairly say even the judge himself has opined that there aren't enough objections f
. >> but it's michael cohen and weisselberg. i mean, these are their conversations, we can do this but it's a trump golf course. >> i think if you're talking about hi jinx and shenanigans, i love your use of words, it's also maybe relatable or gives it more credibility when you hear somebody saying, well, i've got prep school tuitions and i've got summer camp. >> i don't know about the prep school business. >> prep school costs a lot of money. 70 grand a pop in some...
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but where's weisselberg trump and weisselberg and cohen. he only are from cohen who has an allergy to veracity. i think that the face is hello, good shape. you laid out a lot there and sorry, get tvc because it would take me over 90 seconds. but on the point of what you're no one is saying that nda's are illegal here. and i know todd blanche tried to frame them today is just commonplace among the wealthy and the famous that it's just pretty normal. no one is saying that, that donald trump is going to go to jail, but because of a nondisclosure agreement, if falsifying business records is at the heart of this and one point that todd blanche had michael cohen make today was that he has never had a legal retainer while working for donald trump. so the question in turn is then why did donald trump cut michael cohen 11 checks and sign them? pursuant to an invoice that said it was because of illegal retainer i think norm eisen address this briefly, but in my home state, the commonwealth in pennsylvania, we have rules of professional conduct as the
but where's weisselberg trump and weisselberg and cohen. he only are from cohen who has an allergy to veracity. i think that the face is hello, good shape. you laid out a lot there and sorry, get tvc because it would take me over 90 seconds. but on the point of what you're no one is saying that nda's are illegal here. and i know todd blanche tried to frame them today is just commonplace among the wealthy and the famous that it's just pretty normal. no one is saying that, that donald trump is...
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so on cross nicholas asks westerhout and you were asked if allen weisselberg you spoke to weisselberg during when he was doing when he was president. do you recall that about checks? yes. necklace says, am i correct that you do not have any specific recollection of allen weisselberg and the president and president trump's speaking during the first year that president trump was in office westerhout, that's correct. yes. necklace. and you have a vague recollection that at some point they might have spoken about a check westerhout? yes, vaguely uh-huh. necklace. but you're not even sure that's true, right? westerhout's know, nicholas, and in fact, you really don't recall any calls specifically between him and allen weisselberg, right? westerhout know he spoke to so many people. so defense trying to use this to say if they were on the phone all the time talking about this reimbursement and cutting of checks that she would have some memory of this course, ossicular would argue that this was something that maybe they had the one conversation they were not supposed to talk about it again. >>
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if the answer is called allen weisselberg, the jury. and again, we got to smart jury with two lawyers. these lawyers know that the state has to prove their case if there's no weisselberg, there may not be a case. so even if the jury believes who and even if they believe cohen, they still so maybe you wondering, where's weisselberg iri that's very, very interesting. robert hirshhorn, thank you very much for bringing that to us thank you, abby. >> and on that note, let's come out to the panel here. i mean, john where is allen weisselberg? he's all over michael cohen's testimony. but does he hang over this case at this point? he does right now. i mean, it's going to have to be addressed in the parties are currently in the process of talking to the judge about what's going to happen, right? prosecutors wanted to introduce the severance agreement that weisselberg had with the trump organization to explain why he's not available because all this money is still coming to him if he doesn't cooperate voluntarily with law enforcement, they said t
if the answer is called allen weisselberg, the jury. and again, we got to smart jury with two lawyers. these lawyers know that the state has to prove their case if there's no weisselberg, there may not be a case. so even if the jury believes who and even if they believe cohen, they still so maybe you wondering, where's weisselberg iri that's very, very interesting. robert hirshhorn, thank you very much for bringing that to us thank you, abby. >> and on that note, let's come out to the...
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i do not think we are going to see allen weisselberg . the notes in this case really speak for themselves and you have jeffrey mcconney doing something that is important because i wonder how they are going to identifying allen weisselberg's handwriting. is it just going to be michael cohen so that they can collapse it and say you don't really have corroboration. you have jeffrey mcconney. to be clear, this is borrowing a page from the january 6 committee. these are insiders to the trump organization. these are not friends of democrats. these are people in the trump organization. >> where are we going to go from here? there is a good argument for close the case out. i don't think that is what is going to happen. at the end of the day, there's probably about two weeks left. that means we will hear from michael cohen. we are certainly going to hear from some insiders at the white house as to the mechanics of how the checks so that it is pretty clear. i think we are going to get a little bit more detail about what is presented to donald trump
i do not think we are going to see allen weisselberg . the notes in this case really speak for themselves and you have jeffrey mcconney doing something that is important because i wonder how they are going to identifying allen weisselberg's handwriting. is it just going to be michael cohen so that they can collapse it and say you don't really have corroboration. you have jeffrey mcconney. to be clear, this is borrowing a page from the january 6 committee. these are insiders to the trump...
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weisselberg say in front of mr. trump how much you are going to be paid in total? it was going to be divided by 12 and its $35,000 a month and that they would actually start making the payments in february, not january, because there was a lot going on with mr. trump moving to d.c., the inauguration and so on. so was it stated did mr. weisselberg state in front of mr. trump you were going to receive $420,000 over the course of 12 months? yes. and what if, in anything, did mr. come say the time? he approved it. he also said this is going to be one heck of a ride in d.c. did mr. weisselberg say in front of mr. trump that those monthly payments would be, you know, like a retainer for legal services? yes. not to mention something before, but i wanted to question you about it. did you say something to the effect that you had a sense they had spoken about this previously? yes. why do you say that? because they always play that sort of game of frick and frack type game. i had been around that office more than enough to rea
weisselberg say in front of mr. trump how much you are going to be paid in total? it was going to be divided by 12 and its $35,000 a month and that they would actually start making the payments in february, not january, because there was a lot going on with mr. trump moving to d.c., the inauguration and so on. so was it stated did mr. weisselberg state in front of mr. trump you were going to receive $420,000 over the course of 12 months? yes. and what if, in anything, did mr. come say the time?...
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weisselberg, his sons, cohen, correct. your private relationship with the trust was going to be with you and president trump. cohen, yes. but the trust controlled his cash flow. i would suspect somewhere down the line maybe that's where it would come from. blanche says, your retainer agreement would have been between you and president trump. correct. >> how effective is this to go into michael cohen's motives and motivations? >> that's important. while michael cohen wants to say he's the key witness, the crucial witness. the prosecution is trying to say he's not the key witness. regardless, the defense needs to go at his credibility. remember, michael cohen is the only one who provides the direct link of donald trump, because remember, allen weisselberg is the bogeyman that's not in the room. he's the only one that provides the link of how the payments were made, because of the meeting in january of 2017 and february of 2017 inside of the oval office. so going at his credibility is important because, if the jury finds that
weisselberg, his sons, cohen, correct. your private relationship with the trust was going to be with you and president trump. cohen, yes. but the trust controlled his cash flow. i would suspect somewhere down the line maybe that's where it would come from. blanche says, your retainer agreement would have been between you and president trump. correct. >> how effective is this to go into michael cohen's motives and motivations? >> that's important. while michael cohen wants to say...
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allen weisselberg saw jeffrey mcconney. mcconney reported to weisselberg. wiesel person was there when donald trump specifically said if you pay off stormy daniels, somebody whose testimony could have been key here. they'll rely on jeffrey mcconney who is the one that made the determination on the checks it should be noted -- i should say on the ledger as retainer for legal expenses. he potentially over the course of these next hours could begin to build for the prosecution a more tactical understanding and description of exactly how the reimbursement scheme and how the falsification of business records was ultimately executed by him and others through donald trump's orders. >> carol, it sounds like the prosecution right now is sort of laying the groundwork for mcconney's role in the organization and his relationship with trump. there was some color written that trump seemed to laugh in his seat when mcconney recounted a story about trump pretending to fire him. first thinking about "the apprentice." trump is obviously engaged with this testimony. what do y
allen weisselberg saw jeffrey mcconney. mcconney reported to weisselberg. wiesel person was there when donald trump specifically said if you pay off stormy daniels, somebody whose testimony could have been key here. they'll rely on jeffrey mcconney who is the one that made the determination on the checks it should be noted -- i should say on the ledger as retainer for legal expenses. he potentially over the course of these next hours could begin to build for the prosecution a more tactical...
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corroborate a meeting between al weisselberg. am i good call but they don't corroborate whether trump is there, whether trump was informed whether trump agreed. and the only way that you put donald trump in the room is michael cohen's board otherwise, you definitely have an agreement between michael collin allen weisselberg. >> them are defense sorry about that. >> we just saw on the screen. was notes from mips, mr. mcconney, who is on the right. these are notes that he took referencing his conversaon with allen weisselberg. they both add up, although it is chicken scratch, karen, they both add up to $420,000 is the amount of money to repay. we know from the testimony that prior this was a padded amount for michael cohen from that pole pulling entity to try to buttress the credibility of trump. but when you look at the fact that connecting the dots, there has been a lot of information about michael cohen, about allen weisselberg. was there enough from the defense's perspective to connect donald trump? >> look, i think it's very t
corroborate a meeting between al weisselberg. am i good call but they don't corroborate whether trump is there, whether trump was informed whether trump agreed. and the only way that you put donald trump in the room is michael cohen's board otherwise, you definitely have an agreement between michael collin allen weisselberg. >> them are defense sorry about that. >> we just saw on the screen. was notes from mips, mr. mcconney, who is on the right. these are notes that he took...
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invoices, we are unlikely to hear, the jury is unlikely to hear from weisselberg. some of the testimony being brought before the jury becomes all the more important knowing that. >> i think while you were talking, i think another piece of evidence has been permitted in by the judge. despite objection. that objection was overruled. and andrew weissman, that is the president's, president of the united states annual ethics form to the office of government ethics where you have to list all your assets, liabilities, holdings in the trump organization. presumably where they're going with this, i'm going to look at the document that we're reading from from the overflow room, is that it was falsely stated. the cohen payments were not properly recorded because this is a document that was signed by that chart, we may know the signature, but donald trump. >> yes, so one of the things that people should know and i think they've probably seen it so far is you have to be a little bit patient in trials because not all the evidence comes in at once. and so one of the things that y
invoices, we are unlikely to hear, the jury is unlikely to hear from weisselberg. some of the testimony being brought before the jury becomes all the more important knowing that. >> i think while you were talking, i think another piece of evidence has been permitted in by the judge. despite objection. that objection was overruled. and andrew weissman, that is the president's, president of the united states annual ethics form to the office of government ethics where you have to list all...
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that's in weisselberg's handwriting. they will try to argue, this is weisselberg. donald trump, who is on trial here, no one else is on trial here, and you have to judge donald trump, and there's no evidence of it. michael cohen is a key witness for them to distance their own client from it. the problem is, as catherine points out, there's so many breadcrumbs that corroborate what michael cohen is going to say, text messages and the audio recordings. they have set up this road map. so when michael cohen testifies, he is going to be corroborated by 100 pieces of evidence. that's the challenge the defense has in this weisselberg did it defense. >> what about weisselberg not taking the stand, catherine? is that going to ultimately be a problem for the prosecution? >> neither defense nor prosecution want him to take the stand. the jurors might wonder, where is allen weisselberg? we know where he is. they are supposed to know what they hear in that well of the courtroom, not that he committed perjury and no side would have him testify. there will probably be an instruct
that's in weisselberg's handwriting. they will try to argue, this is weisselberg. donald trump, who is on trial here, no one else is on trial here, and you have to judge donald trump, and there's no evidence of it. michael cohen is a key witness for them to distance their own client from it. the problem is, as catherine points out, there's so many breadcrumbs that corroborate what michael cohen is going to say, text messages and the audio recordings. they have set up this road map. so when...
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>> where is weisselberg? remember, we had that out of the hearing of the jury, but that discussion about that with prosecutors and defense attorneys about why they didn't just subpoena weisselberg. why don't they talk to him about coming in? because if you're the jury, you're like, this is a guy who was in the room when it happened. this is a name we're hearing repeatedly. we're looking at his signature on documents. why isn't he here corroborating? >> is it worth the risk if you're the prosecutor to call him knowing he's lied for donald trump under oath before and is willing to go to prison for lying under oath. >> he's in prison. >> currently. >> and take the fifth to every question, realistically. >> if he took the fifth to every question, is that such a bad thing for the prosecution to have that happen before the jury? >> i think this is the whole debate that the lawyers were having, that prosecutors were having with themselves. my point is the jury doesn't know that. they're not hearing that. and they wo
>> where is weisselberg? remember, we had that out of the hearing of the jury, but that discussion about that with prosecutors and defense attorneys about why they didn't just subpoena weisselberg. why don't they talk to him about coming in? because if you're the jury, you're like, this is a guy who was in the room when it happened. this is a name we're hearing repeatedly. we're looking at his signature on documents. why isn't he here corroborating? >> is it worth the risk if you're...
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then, what is allen weisselberg doing being mentioned in that conversation? repetition is the flipside of the trump teams stipulations. it makes it more intelligible for the jury when you've heard something not just once but three times running. >> adam, there is nothing like hearing the defendant's voice in a recording like that, in a conspiracy. >> absolutely. and, hearing and, just moving off of something that lisa just said, just to take back to the first time we heard it, hearing the defendant's voice on tape, hearing the witness on tape, it was during cross-examination that trump's attorney , emil bove, had advanced the theory that this was somehow falsified. when you put all of this evidence together, having the jury kind of process that explanation that what is the competing theory that was set a little earlier today? you have to, when you see all of the evidence laid out through michael cohen's testimony for hours and hours, text messages, phone messages, it goes into, you have to imagine a series of coincidences that michael cohen is calling trump a
then, what is allen weisselberg doing being mentioned in that conversation? repetition is the flipside of the trump teams stipulations. it makes it more intelligible for the jury when you've heard something not just once but three times running. >> adam, there is nothing like hearing the defendant's voice in a recording like that, in a conspiracy. >> absolutely. and, hearing and, just moving off of something that lisa just said, just to take back to the first time we heard it,...
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weisselberg say in front of mr. trump that the monthly payments would be, you know, like a retainer for legal services? >> yes. >> you mentions of the before and i want to question you. did you say something to the effect that you had a sense that spoken about this previously? >> yes. >> why do you say that? >> because they played that game of frick and phrack type game. i and around that office enough to realize the conversation had already taken place between the two. when i asked for the 420, mr. trump said no, it's better to do it over 12 months. >> trump defense counsel, objection to that it's and moved to strike. >> the judge, overruled. >> when allen weisselberg laid out the plan of how much you were going to get paid and over what months and showed mr. trump this document, did mr. trump try to renegotiate? >> no. >> so he approved the? >> yes. >> at some point, did mr. trump confirm he would give you the total personal attorney or personal counsel to the president? >> yes. >> when was that? >> around the sam
weisselberg say in front of mr. trump that the monthly payments would be, you know, like a retainer for legal services? >> yes. >> you mentions of the before and i want to question you. did you say something to the effect that you had a sense that spoken about this previously? >> yes. >> why do you say that? >> because they played that game of frick and phrack type game. i and around that office enough to realize the conversation had already taken place between the...
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according to michael cohen, allen weisselberg was there too, but the jury hasn't heard from allen weisselberg. >> which they pointed out in the closing arguments. they said, where was dylan howard, where was keith schiller, where was allen weisselberg. >> and what the prosecution is going to do and it has this opportunity to address the jury is to say, you know what, there are a lot of other witnesses the defense didn't mention to you, like hope hicks, and david pecker who corroborate critical aspects of michael cohen's testimony and there are the documents that corroborate michael cohen's testimony, about the falsification scheme. so at the end of the day, there is a very, very small amount of michael cohen's testimony that is not corroborated by documents and other witnesses. and there is lots of circumstantial evidence to corroborate what michael cohen is saying about this particular part of the story. >> but would the prosecution then be able to now address why allen weisselberg is not there? will they be able to say in theirs because allen weisselberg is in rikers and is a totally unreli
according to michael cohen, allen weisselberg was there too, but the jury hasn't heard from allen weisselberg. >> which they pointed out in the closing arguments. they said, where was dylan howard, where was keith schiller, where was allen weisselberg. >> and what the prosecution is going to do and it has this opportunity to address the jury is to say, you know what, there are a lot of other witnesses the defense didn't mention to you, like hope hicks, and david pecker who...
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what is allen weisselberg doing in the conversation? repetition is the flipside of the time t's obstreperous nest with respect to no stipulations. it makes it more intelligible for the jury when you print something not just once but three times. >> there is nothing like hearing the defendant's voice and a recording like that in a conspiracy. >> absolutely. moving off something that lisa just said, to take back the first time we heard it. hearing the defendant my ski voice and hearing the witness on tape, it was during a cross examination the trump's attorney had advanced the theory that this was somehow falsified. when you put all of this evidence together, having the jury process that explanation, what is the competing theory? it was said a little earlier. when you see all the evidence laid out through the testimony for hours and hours. text and phone messages. you have to imagine a series of coincidences that cohen is calling trump and hope hicks and keith davidson, all these opportune times that reaches to a level of qanon style cons
what is allen weisselberg doing in the conversation? repetition is the flipside of the time t's obstreperous nest with respect to no stipulations. it makes it more intelligible for the jury when you print something not just once but three times. >> there is nothing like hearing the defendant's voice and a recording like that in a conspiracy. >> absolutely. moving off something that lisa just said, to take back the first time we heard it. hearing the defendant my ski voice and...
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where's weisselberg? why didn't hear from weisselberg? there's all this talk of this document with these numbers on it, allegedly written by weisselberg. why didn't the prosecution put them up here? and then if you could tie that into cohen's admitted testimony that he stole $60,000 from his client, which is noted on that document. that testimony may not have eviscerated the document, but it certainly tainted so i think they're important points to make any seems to be making them what do you expect from the prosecution? and we've heard that prosecution may take as long as four-and-a-half hours for their closing argument that's a long time. i mean you know rule on these cases as a jury by the number of witnesses. one side puts on versus another, but or or the length of closing arguments, but they've got a bit of an advantage here in new york because they're listening to the defense's argument and i'm sure i know mr. steinglass. i've worked against them and ms hoffinger, they're good lawyers, so good prosecutors i'm sure there writing notes
where's weisselberg? why didn't hear from weisselberg? there's all this talk of this document with these numbers on it, allegedly written by weisselberg. why didn't the prosecution put them up here? and then if you could tie that into cohen's admitted testimony that he stole $60,000 from his client, which is noted on that document. that testimony may not have eviscerated the document, but it certainly tainted so i think they're important points to make any seems to be making them what do you...
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this wassing cooed up by weisselberg and cohen. that in that seems plausible and they wanted to do it for the boss. but then i need something about why trump writes him the check. >> i can give it to you. >> okay. >> but it's not very strong. >> go ahead. >> if you admit the misdemeanor, yeah, business fraud, it's on paper -- >> there's no question. >> cfo, you lied. but you say, when cohen did all this and the defendant's sitting in the white house, he then felt like paying him back, so it's partly the rogue. but it's all after the fact. if you move the decision, which is still bad, later after the fact, you might -- and tell us what you think -- help raise doubt against whether it was contemporaneously consciousness, intent, at the time before election day, which means -- again, i'm not here doing free legal service. they already have their plan. which means you admit the misdemeanor, which is a common defense tactic when you have a bad case. then you postdate the other action, and that allows for the fact that it could be true t
this wassing cooed up by weisselberg and cohen. that in that seems plausible and they wanted to do it for the boss. but then i need something about why trump writes him the check. >> i can give it to you. >> okay. >> but it's not very strong. >> go ahead. >> if you admit the misdemeanor, yeah, business fraud, it's on paper -- >> there's no question. >> cfo, you lied. but you say, when cohen did all this and the defendant's sitting in the white house, he...
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and was told in front of donald trump by the chief financial officer at the time, allen weisselberg, he would be paid in installments that would be described as a legal retainer, and he would get the title of the president's personal lawyer. correspondent: it sounds like there is still a bit to get you to get to whether donald trump knew or ordered these payments. what do we expect to hear tomorrow? correspondent: we are still deep into the prosecution's questioning of michael cohen. we still have to get to the point where there is a meeting in the white house between donald trump and michael cohen. no doubt they are going to want to also get a head of some other questions that the defense may raise. but of course, it may be the turn for donald trump's lawyers to question michael cohen, and that will no doubt be one of the most crucial parts of this trial because before this, we had seen evidence that implicated donald trump. prosecutors say that michael cohen's testimony directly ties him to the hush-money payments, the alleged conspiracy and the cover up. so, the defense is going t
and was told in front of donald trump by the chief financial officer at the time, allen weisselberg, he would be paid in installments that would be described as a legal retainer, and he would get the title of the president's personal lawyer. correspondent: it sounds like there is still a bit to get you to get to whether donald trump knew or ordered these payments. what do we expect to hear tomorrow? correspondent: we are still deep into the prosecution's questioning of michael cohen. we still...
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and to weisselberg. those two. it's tying in. >> they're equal. weisselberg was a family member, which is probably why he's in rikers island now because he refused to testify against donald trump. >> the defense can have already a pre-planned strategy of how to deal with the prosecution's different witnesses, but when this comes up, how do you rebut this? >> when you're on the defense, you have a few options. you can come up with your own theory of the case, alternate theory of the case. for example, i think the only alternate theory left to this defense is donald trump may have signed checks but he didn't know that the checks were going to michael cohen, and why they were going to michael cohen, but sometimes if you can't come up with an alternate theory, you just retreat to they're all eyeing. and that is a lot of what the defense is trying to do on cross. the problem with that is that everybody can't possibly be lying. i want to yes and to what catherine said. i couldn't agree with her more that so far boring witnesses have been the most import
and to weisselberg. those two. it's tying in. >> they're equal. weisselberg was a family member, which is probably why he's in rikers island now because he refused to testify against donald trump. >> the defense can have already a pre-planned strategy of how to deal with the prosecution's different witnesses, but when this comes up, how do you rebut this? >> when you're on the defense, you have a few options. you can come up with your own theory of the case, alternate theory...
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he expressed to be just do it, meet up with allen weisselberg and figure this whole thing out. thanks very much for joining us. i'm wolf blitzer in washington. i'll be back in two hours, 6:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room. starts right now cnn's breaking news. >> and welcome to the lead. i'm jake tapper and we continue to follow the breaking news out of manhattan and where the man at the center of the hush money payments scandal is testifying right now in donald trump's criminal trial, michael cohen is detailing exactly how he came to pay $130,000 to adult film star in director stormy daniels, who came forward about an alleged episode with donald trump in the days before the 2016 election cohen testified, not only did trump know about the uh, hundred $30,000 payment, but trump directly approved it and said that he would pay cohen back and the prosecution is using cohen's testimony to present both an offensive and defensive case offensively by establishing the cohen was the man behind the payments, not just to stormy daniel's, but also to 1998 playmate of the year, karen mc
he expressed to be just do it, meet up with allen weisselberg and figure this whole thing out. thanks very much for joining us. i'm wolf blitzer in washington. i'll be back in two hours, 6:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room. starts right now cnn's breaking news. >> and welcome to the lead. i'm jake tapper and we continue to follow the breaking news out of manhattan and where the man at the center of the hush money payments scandal is testifying right now in donald trump's criminal...
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also for weisselberg, this is a prosecution that has threatened him to prosecute him again. he won't be eager to cross the prosecutors and look at another stint at ryker's. >> harris: what you are saying they probably wouldn't have cut him a sweetheart deal as you have seen with some. jonathan turley, thank you so much for getting us kicked off with what's going on from your legal perspective. all that legal experience we appreciate. we're following closing arguments minute-by-minute. the box on the right of your screen has an update to check on. and all the coverage and analysis, a former president of the united states now in closing arguments. the prosecution as you heard from jonathan turley, what will they work with? a lying star witness. we're covering it. stay close. life, diabetes, there's no slowing down. each day is a unique blend of people to see and things to do. that's why you choose glucerna to help manage blood sugar response. uniquely designed with carbsteady. glucerna. bring on the day. isolated...depressed... and embarrassed. that's how it felt to live with
also for weisselberg, this is a prosecution that has threatened him to prosecute him again. he won't be eager to cross the prosecutors and look at another stint at ryker's. >> harris: what you are saying they probably wouldn't have cut him a sweetheart deal as you have seen with some. jonathan turley, thank you so much for getting us kicked off with what's going on from your legal perspective. all that legal experience we appreciate. we're following closing arguments minute-by-minute. the...
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you are taking your weisselberg. there's a back and forth, where they are showing he is so connected to this and the defense is like, no, no. >> i want to come back with half of the vocabulary -- that's a perfect articulation of what happened today. the only thing i can add now is to turn to some of the transcript. let me read this to you. on the documents, which i think that's part of what we miss -- we will have them tomorrow. but we don't have the documents with the transcripts. the jury saw documents which have trump's signature on them. the document goes up. it's a bank statement with weisselberg's handwritten note about how to gross up the payment to cohen because he presumes it will be accounted for as income. they have to pad it or buff it. this testimony comes right after that. did you have the authority to prove payment of an invoice to mr. mcconney? no. before trump became president, after an invoice was approved and a check was cut, who had signature authority? answer, just donald trump. question, after t
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he suggested to weisselberg that he, weisselberg pays the money. weisselberg said he's not in a position as he has four grandkids and prep school and summer camps. he said because of the urgency i ultimately said i'll pay it. they discussed repayment with sex saying don't worry, we will make sure you get paid back. he is portraying a scheme that was cooked up between he and weisselberg but there is no trump and it appeared >> no. and there is no campaign issue here. if donald trump had paid for this hush money out of campaign funds, somebody would be prosecuting him for misusing campaign funds for something that is not a campaign expense. so the case that they have brought has nothing to do with any of this discussion between the two of them. even if people are inclined to believe what michael cohen is saying, the fundamental problem here and the reason the people charged with enforcing our federal campaign laws have not made this case is because there is no case. >> sandra: i want to get this and here. carrie is giving us an update from the courtr
he suggested to weisselberg that he, weisselberg pays the money. weisselberg said he's not in a position as he has four grandkids and prep school and summer camps. he said because of the urgency i ultimately said i'll pay it. they discussed repayment with sex saying don't worry, we will make sure you get paid back. he is portraying a scheme that was cooked up between he and weisselberg but there is no trump and it appeared >> no. and there is no campaign issue here. if donald trump had...
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where was allen weisselberg during all of this? i don't know that i could resolve that to my satisfaction. >> i think there are three big ones. donald trump, allen weisselberg and keith schiller. we saw that photograph that was fought into evidence yesterday. brilliantly done by the district attorney. there is the photograph. there is donald trump's head and that red necktie is on keith schiller on your screen and that is at 7:57 p.m. on a night when michael cohen says he called keith schiller's cell phone at 8:02 p.m. to have keith schiller pass his phone to donald trump, because he knew they were together like that. he is his bodyguard and they are always together. so that he could have that conversation which lasted a minute and a half according to the cell phone records, getting the okay from donald trump on the stormy daniels payment. not the only okay he got, but one of them. keith schiller could have come into the courtroom and said i never got that phone call, i never handed the phone to donald trump. there are so many thin
where was allen weisselberg during all of this? i don't know that i could resolve that to my satisfaction. >> i think there are three big ones. donald trump, allen weisselberg and keith schiller. we saw that photograph that was fought into evidence yesterday. brilliantly done by the district attorney. there is the photograph. there is donald trump's head and that red necktie is on keith schiller on your screen and that is at 7:57 p.m. on a night when michael cohen says he called keith...
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weisselberg's state in front of mr. trump that you were going to receive $420,000 over the course of 12 months cohen responded, yes. and then the dis and what, if anything, did mr. trump say that time? michael cohen said he approved it, so jake, that is the most important piece of testimony that we heard yesterday michael cohen link donald trump directly to the payment and to the cover up the reimbursement. so when michael cohen picks up today, i think we're going to hear more about that testimony and count on the defense team going back there during cross-examination probably later today, jake interesting stuff. >> elie honig, thanks so much. come join us at the panel here and let's talk about this with our panel. first of all, let me start to him again, go with you reportable vips there today include the house speaker, and we should know he's not the speaker of the republican party. he's the speaker of the entire house of representatives , democrats and republicans. and yet he is, he is there to support president trum
weisselberg's state in front of mr. trump that you were going to receive $420,000 over the course of 12 months cohen responded, yes. and then the dis and what, if anything, did mr. trump say that time? michael cohen said he approved it, so jake, that is the most important piece of testimony that we heard yesterday michael cohen link donald trump directly to the payment and to the cover up the reimbursement. so when michael cohen picks up today, i think we're going to hear more about that...
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that's allen weisselberg. i've read his handwriting for about 35 years. >> the writing on the right side of the page is likely to turn out to be michael cohen's writing showing allen weisselberg why he was owed $50,000 more than the $130,000 he paid to stormy daniels. the $50,000 was for a previous expense he paid to affirm to rig online polls for donald trump. according to allen weisselberg's notes, he grossed up the $180,000-$360,000. question. what does grossed up in maine? answer i don't know exactly what it meant but he probably meant so for tax purposes if michael recorded $350,000 income he would net $180,000 assuming a 50% tax rate. allen weisselberg then added in his writing an annual bonus of $60,000 bringing the total to be paid to michael cohen to be $30,000 per month and then donald trump's signed checks to michael cohen for $35,000 per month were presented to the jury. my cross-examination of one of crops criminal -- trumps criminal defense lawyers asked if he ever spoke to donald trump. question
that's allen weisselberg. i've read his handwriting for about 35 years. >> the writing on the right side of the page is likely to turn out to be michael cohen's writing showing allen weisselberg why he was owed $50,000 more than the $130,000 he paid to stormy daniels. the $50,000 was for a previous expense he paid to affirm to rig online polls for donald trump. according to allen weisselberg's notes, he grossed up the $180,000-$360,000. question. what does grossed up in maine? answer i...
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anyway, that's weisselberg tan writing. weisselberg's handwriting. and list all the money this is all the money that doing paid to michael michael cohen be reimbursed. be reimbursed plus it was trued up by double the amount so that if he's paid double than the after-tax money is even. and the other money like a bonus admin paid, that's on the sheet. but when i first saw that in this room and i first realized that they had weisselberg's handwriting as evidenced. that's why susan is asking so i because because there it is and allen weisselberg knows all about it. >> the day after cohen recorded that conversation with donald trump, he's testifying that he and another person at ami the tabloid kingdom texted and discussed possible names for the shell corporations that they're setting up in delaware. and to eddy's 0.1 but prosecutors are trying to do here is corroborate michael cohen at every turn that page, a handwritten notes goes to the stormy daniel's payments, which is coming up soon right now. they're talking about mcdougal, but that page of handwri
anyway, that's weisselberg tan writing. weisselberg's handwriting. and list all the money this is all the money that doing paid to michael michael cohen be reimbursed. be reimbursed plus it was trued up by double the amount so that if he's paid double than the after-tax money is even. and the other money like a bonus admin paid, that's on the sheet. but when i first saw that in this room and i first realized that they had weisselberg's handwriting as evidenced. that's why susan is asking so i...
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donald trump, alan weisselberg and keith schiller, they could of called keith schiller and alan weisselberg. what is the decision on the prosecution side when we have the picture, we have the phone records y don't we call schiller to say, did you walk stormy daniels to the hotel room? did you take a phone call to michael cohen and hand the phone to donald trump? i can imagine on the phone call thing, schiller could have a easy i don't remember, what is the calculation? are they going to hope that the defense calls so they can do cross instead of direct? >> if you have a witness like schiller and it is somebody that you think. >> former nypd. long time personal bodyguard to trump, as loyal as they get. >> oh, yes. and let's just say there is substantial issues beyond this case they would be aware of. so, here is the issue, one, they may have been spoken to his lawyer and said we want to speak to him and not necessarily put him in the grand jury. you don't have to come in for an interview but respond to a grand jury and he may of taken the fifth >> in the grand jury. >> or said i will so they
donald trump, alan weisselberg and keith schiller, they could of called keith schiller and alan weisselberg. what is the decision on the prosecution side when we have the picture, we have the phone records y don't we call schiller to say, did you walk stormy daniels to the hotel room? did you take a phone call to michael cohen and hand the phone to donald trump? i can imagine on the phone call thing, schiller could have a easy i don't remember, what is the calculation? are they going to hope...
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so what is the jury supposed to make of the fact that weisselberg didn't testify? >> well, that is up to the defense to explain, and i can't understand every tv show, i love your show, and i respect both of you so much, how come nobody has mentioned so far other than costello that donald trump said he would testify? i know he doesn't have to. i believe in the presumption of innocence -- >> but hold on, because forgive me for interrupting, i don't want to get past the weisselberg testimony because that's a keyhole right now for people who are looking at the evidence and they're saying if it is his word against somebody else's, he and weisselberg and trump according to cohen were the only ones in the room, it is weisselberg's handwriting on the documents that you're pointing to, is the prosecution's case hurt at all by not having weisselberg testify? do you agree with that decision? >> no, i don't. let me explain to you one more time, if you look at the document carefully, i urge you to do so, off the air, as i did when i first saw it behind closed doors, i almost fe
so what is the jury supposed to make of the fact that weisselberg didn't testify? >> well, that is up to the defense to explain, and i can't understand every tv show, i love your show, and i respect both of you so much, how come nobody has mentioned so far other than costello that donald trump said he would testify? i know he doesn't have to. i believe in the presumption of innocence -- >> but hold on, because forgive me for interrupting, i don't want to get past the weisselberg...
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it's the defense that needs allen weisselberg. i think that's the way to put it. sorry. what do you think? >> what testimony should the prosecution really be focusing on tomorrow? as they work to connect all of these dots that they put forth over the last five weeks. >> i think they start at the beginning and i think that's the reason they had pecker be the first witness. he laid it all out. he talked about when they all first met and conceived of this conspiracy to rig the election, so to speak. and i think they go hello from there, gary farro, the banker. i think keith davidson, they all supported these payments to the doorman, to mcdougal, to daniels and then i think they focus on the witnesses that really worked. trump witnesses, but helped like hope hicks who said this was really for helping out as far as the election was concerned, normal quickly, the fact that the jury it has been out of court for a week. they got a full break for a week. >> does that benefit either side? the burden is on the prosecution, so perhaps it's a slight disadvantage, but on the other han
it's the defense that needs allen weisselberg. i think that's the way to put it. sorry. what do you think? >> what testimony should the prosecution really be focusing on tomorrow? as they work to connect all of these dots that they put forth over the last five weeks. >> i think they start at the beginning and i think that's the reason they had pecker be the first witness. he laid it all out. he talked about when they all first met and conceived of this conspiracy to rig the...
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heisenberg, are the notes of weisselberg michael cohen is the link between allen weisselberg and donald trump. >> and it is his word that is the bridge between those two. >> that's not right mcconney also identified those records and he identified them as being in weisselberg's handwriting. >> he doesn't talk about why it is not on trial designs coming out. let's be a close case. >> hi, to be called psaki. interrupt you, abby, but there was after tuesday's testimony, i believe there was a conference with judge merchan and the attorneys about where is weisselberg? >> it's almost like the where's waldo situation and weisselberg is now on rikers island serving a sentence for perjury so the prosecution has no incentive to bring him into this case. they already have an issue with michael cohen being an alleged perjure or a perjure either alleged or on alleged. >> he's not coming in. so the only tie to donald trump's knowledge at this point in the case, which is why this is such a big turning point. is michael cohen's testimony. so if the jury doesn't, by the connection and if they do rely on
heisenberg, are the notes of weisselberg michael cohen is the link between allen weisselberg and donald trump. >> and it is his word that is the bridge between those two. >> that's not right mcconney also identified those records and he identified them as being in weisselberg's handwriting. >> he doesn't talk about why it is not on trial designs coming out. let's be a close case. >> hi, to be called psaki. interrupt you, abby, but there was after tuesday's testimony, i...
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the first two signed by weisselberg as well as don jr. then the final one coming from donald trump's personal account and signed by donald trump himself. you have jeffrey mcconney, someone who worked for 35 years for the trump organization, a loyalist to donald trump and the family, testifying in the courtroom that he understood that the $35,000 checks that were being labeled in the ledger as monthly legal retainer expenses were actually reimbursements made to michael cohen for previous acts, as well as a doubling of that to cover tax purposes, as well as to offset bonus that michael cohen had argued he deserved. this is where you're getting at the heart of a key ally of donald trump within the trump organization testifying today that he in early 2017 mowingly was -- at the direction of alan weisselberg and checks signed by donald trump himself, was at the heart of the alleged falsification of business records by donald trump in an apparent scheme here that was -- number one, you have a group of folks that argue that donald trump was medi
the first two signed by weisselberg as well as don jr. then the final one coming from donald trump's personal account and signed by donald trump himself. you have jeffrey mcconney, someone who worked for 35 years for the trump organization, a loyalist to donald trump and the family, testifying in the courtroom that he understood that the $35,000 checks that were being labeled in the ledger as monthly legal retainer expenses were actually reimbursements made to michael cohen for previous acts,...
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the defense has no such burden to call allen weisselberg or put on evidence about allen weisselberg. they can just wait until closing and pot shot everything that the prosecution did. so i think this is going to emerge as a major theme, the absence of allen weisselberg, and going back to the cross examination of michael cohen, i think it's helpful to take a step back and think about what are the goals of cross examination, and i think a lot of people have a misconception about the goals of cross examination, and i blame the movie "a few good men" and movies like that. they create this expectation that there's going to be this moment of high drama where a witness breaks down and they'll see the error of your ways. >> they won't say you can't handle the truth. >> i grew up thinking there would be tons of that when i went to law school. the reason for that is this. you don't need that in cross. really what you're looking for is concessions. concessions achieved through the use of leading questions, questions, which are for the most part answered yes or no. right. basically the lawyer is
the defense has no such burden to call allen weisselberg or put on evidence about allen weisselberg. they can just wait until closing and pot shot everything that the prosecution did. so i think this is going to emerge as a major theme, the absence of allen weisselberg, and going back to the cross examination of michael cohen, i think it's helpful to take a step back and think about what are the goals of cross examination, and i think a lot of people have a misconception about the goals of...
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donald trump, allen weisselberg, michael cohen. in this trial, michael cohen will be the only person who was in that room it will -- room who will offer under oath testimony about that room. the defense indicated there is no plan to call allen weisselberg to the witness stand, who could conceivably testify on behalf of donald trump and maybe say that meeting never took place. that testimony is not going to happen. the defense has all but admitted to the judge that donald trump will not testify, so the jury is going to be instructed that the lawyers questions are not evidence. testimony by witnesses is evidence that the jury can accept or reject, but questions by lawyers are not evidence. questions by lawyers proved nothing, so todd blanche's big moment today where he raised his voice to the loudest level we have heard in that very polite courtroom from anyone in that room, saying to michael cohen, that is a lie, is not evidence in this trial. the jury will be instructed to that effect. the only actual evidence we have in this trial
donald trump, allen weisselberg, michael cohen. in this trial, michael cohen will be the only person who was in that room it will -- room who will offer under oath testimony about that room. the defense indicated there is no plan to call allen weisselberg to the witness stand, who could conceivably testify on behalf of donald trump and maybe say that meeting never took place. that testimony is not going to happen. the defense has all but admitted to the judge that donald trump will not testify,...
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allen weisselberg. without any question at all, has direct knowledge of what the president, former president knew when he actually knew it. and was directly involved with this entire process. the only other person who seems to be is somebody who's going to be testifying next week. >> and we're seeing just before it changed their emil beauvais was saying, there some procedural problems bringing him on as a witness because he was not on the prosecution's witness list. drug diverse. sean says he didn't think it was a possibility there. look, i'm wondering, does the defense want allen weisselberg on the stand i mean maybe if nobody wants him on the stand at this point because he's such an unpredictable potential witness? yeah. >> probably not really going to help them. right. so get out there and take the fifth. it was more helpful for them. the fact that he wasn't on the government's in this lesson every time i ask if he's going to be that this is not on that list, so he's not expected to be called and tha
allen weisselberg. without any question at all, has direct knowledge of what the president, former president knew when he actually knew it. and was directly involved with this entire process. the only other person who seems to be is somebody who's going to be testifying next week. >> and we're seeing just before it changed their emil beauvais was saying, there some procedural problems bringing him on as a witness because he was not on the prosecution's witness list. drug diverse. sean...
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officer to make that $130,000 hush money payment, but allen weisselberg basically said he was not in the financial position to do so. and that is how michael cohen describes how he became the one to front the money. so quite a lot of ground so far, that michael cohen covered. he talked earlier in testimony about how he was eager to please donald trump as his attack dog and that every single thing he did was at the direction of donald trump to get credit, to make sure donald trump was pleased with him. so vy much painting everything he did as for the benefit of donald trump and at his direction. christian: we already know from previous witnesses that donald trump didn't know about the payments and the payback. the prosecution has the show here that the entries into the business records were false entries and they have to show that he knowingly knew these payments were not legal expenses. does cohen do that? reporter: yes, there were some really interesting testimony earlier, where persecutors were essentially trying to elicit testimony that showed donald trump to efforts to conceal th
officer to make that $130,000 hush money payment, but allen weisselberg basically said he was not in the financial position to do so. and that is how michael cohen describes how he became the one to front the money. so quite a lot of ground so far, that michael cohen covered. he talked earlier in testimony about how he was eager to please donald trump as his attack dog and that every single thing he did was at the direction of donald trump to get credit, to make sure donald trump was pleased...
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weisselberg's state in front of mr. trump, you are going to receive $420,000 over the course of 12 months, cohen? yes. hoffinger. and what, if anything, did mr. trump's say at the time? cohen says he approved it and he also said this is going to be one heck of a ride in dc question from hoffinger. and did missile weisselberg say in front of mr. trump that those monthly payments would be, you know, like a retainer for legal services michael cohen says, yes so why or coates is that the most critical testimony from the de well, because we're talking about 34 counts of falsified business records the order is not whether there was an affair or whether the allegations were true about either karen mcdougal are certainly daniel's is about whether or not they intentionally falsified records to suggest that this was more than what mcconney we talked two batches, simple dropdown menu or options were this i had to put legal services down. it was an intentional act. he is alleging, of course, you're talking about always sober and co
weisselberg's state in front of mr. trump, you are going to receive $420,000 over the course of 12 months, cohen? yes. hoffinger. and what, if anything, did mr. trump's say at the time? cohen says he approved it and he also said this is going to be one heck of a ride in dc question from hoffinger. and did missile weisselberg say in front of mr. trump that those monthly payments would be, you know, like a retainer for legal services michael cohen says, yes so why or coates is that the most...
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mcconney testified he was told by weisselberg trump was reimbursing his lawyer. a former accountant testified weisselberg was a person who had his hands in everything but would run financial decisions by trump. which leads to this. >> sitting president trump in the oval office for the first time. he says to me something to the effect of, don't worry, michael. your january and february reimbursement checks are coming. >> and yesterday, we heard from madeleine westerhoutwesterhout, personal testimony when he was president who testified his trump's personal signing of checks. back with me are lisa reuben and andrew weissmann. that is the case basically for it being an illegal sort of scheme. i want to hit you with just really quickly before you react to that, somewhat breaking news. i don't know why trump's truth social is breaking news, but he tweeted out judge merchan refused to put a gag order on the truly out of control people. only the president, the presidential candidate, me, mistrial. thoughts? >> well, one of those people is a criminal defendant. and judge
mcconney testified he was told by weisselberg trump was reimbursing his lawyer. a former accountant testified weisselberg was a person who had his hands in everything but would run financial decisions by trump. which leads to this. >> sitting president trump in the oval office for the first time. he says to me something to the effect of, don't worry, michael. your january and february reimbursement checks are coming. >> and yesterday, we heard from madeleine westerhoutwesterhout,...
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it was weisselberg he would have they would have a lot to say if he would say, i think they're going to pound on the failure of proof and say the people have failed to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. there are also, of course going to attack cohen's credibility. that's easy to do and they're gonna do it. >> and judge, what about the fact that the jury's been away from the courtroom for a week. what kind of impact could that have? >> well that's not so great for the defense because the last witness in the case was costello and so what are they going to remember for five days was this strange witness who was antagonizing the judge. clearly, they knew that the jury was aware of that jury was sent out. the courtroom was cleared. they knew the two weren't getting along. they also knew that about 15 objections were sustained in a row. and jurors bond with the judge. so it's not good after five days. the last thing on their mind was castello, but we'll see after the summations comes the charge, and that's really the last thing juries, jurors remember, is what did the judge tell hi
it was weisselberg he would have they would have a lot to say if he would say, i think they're going to pound on the failure of proof and say the people have failed to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. there are also, of course going to attack cohen's credibility. that's easy to do and they're gonna do it. >> and judge, what about the fact that the jury's been away from the courtroom for a week. what kind of impact could that have? >> well that's not so great for the defense...