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forces has triggered widespread international condemnation. the palestinian president, mahmoud abbas, called the deaths a massacre. but the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, said his country acted in self—defence. the protests were partly triggered by the opening of an american embassy in jerusalem for the first time. mr netanyahu described it as a glorious day but a top palestinian official described it as a hostile act against international law. president trump was represented by his daughter and son—in—law. the head of britain's domestic intelligence service, mi5, has accused the russian government of trying to undermine western democracies through espionage, cyber attacks, and criminal thuggery. he was speaking at a security conference in berlin. russia has rejected the claims. now on bbc news, monday in parliament. hello and welcome to monday
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in parliament, our look at the best of the day in the commons and the lords. on this programme. remembering tessa jowell. tributes are paid in memory of the former labour cabinet minister. everybody said quite rightly how charming and nice she was. but there was steel behind those clear blue eyes. if she walked in or she was in the room, it was a kind of feeling of a bit ofjoy coming through the door. another setback for the government in the lords, this time over the future of the press. peers vote for a second leveson—type enquiry. i am concerned that the police still have not been tasked that adequately for the role that they have played and some of those particularly...
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and more money for grammar schools in england. but not everyone‘s happy. how can how can the secretary of state just didved £50 million between grammar school places when schools in my constituency are taking a £1 million cut? but first. she was the olympic politician. ladyjowell, formerly the labour cabinet minister tessa jowell, passed away at the weekend after being diagnosed with a brain tumour in 2017. her tireless campaigning famously helped london win the right to stage the 2012 olympic and paralympic games, but tessa jowell had many other achievements to her name, not least the creation of the network of 4,000 surestart centres for young children across the country. she was an mp for 23 years, after which she entered the lords. following her moving speech to peers at the start of 2018, ladyjowell was in the gallery of the commons in april to listen to a debate on cancer treatment. her death was announced on sunday.
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when the commons speaker allowed tributes, the prime minister was one of the first to remember tessa jowell. to the end she fought not for herself or her party, but for everyone affected by this most grueling of diseases. it was typical of the spirit with which she approached her whole life. the outpouring of tributes this weekend from those who had the privilege to know her and those who do not show as extent of which are courage and service inspired us all. for many years after london one that on the big bed, the screensaver on her phone was a photo of her and david beckham after the announcement hugging. as she said, "you can be a feminist but still be susceptible to a david beckham moment". (laughter). i think her recent speech in the house of lords was just amazing. because we live our lives, we enjoy our lives and none of us want it to end. but she was able to convey
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to the house and to the world that living her life is also how you end your life and legacy that you leave behind. it was such a brave and selfless speech that she made it took so much out of her do it, but she so determined to do it. everyone said quite rightly how charming and nice she was but there was a steel behind those clear blue eyes. and as her constituency for 23 years, we went together to various meetings and campaigns. and she was always courteous and polite to the police. if ever she felt they were obfuscating and letting people down, she would be tougher than anybody. and she brought fun into this place. sometimes we are a bit dreary in these chambers. if she walked in or she was in the room, it was a kind of feeling of a bit ofjoy coming to the door. for some reason that is well beyond my understanding,
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cancer seems to be the last taboo we have in our society. because of in the way in which tessa jowell dealt with hers, the courage and candour, i am sure that that taboo is weaker today than it ever has been. another mp recalled the moment tessa jowell convinced tony blair london should bid for 2012. she described that same meeting to me a few years ago and it was identical to the inscription of mr blair's yesterday with one addition. she said at the end of the meeting, she turned him and said, "do you want to be the prime minister that had the olympics within your grasp and chose to turn away"? that for me was her because she had learned as a speaker to weaponise the male ego. and woe the tie between any beasts that stood between her and one of her objectives. i can't help but keep remembering
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a meeting before the light it she briefed us with some detail with great frankness on her plans to distribute condoms throughout the olympic village. because as she said to us she said, "there will be all of these athletes with their beautiful bodies and when they finish their races, they're going to have a lot of sex. and we had the responsibility to keep them safe". i was taught at the beginning of my political career that there are two kinds of politicians. those who try and divide us and those who try and make change happen by bringing us together. with the olympics just as so much in her life, she brought the whole world together.
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to make progress. in many respects, she does set an example for ministers today and future ministers. one thing about the jobs she did, whether it was for public health or the medics or from london, she put her heart and soul into it. she was not looking to the next job, the next promotion. she devoted herself to the job at hand. she never gave up and ijust wanted if i made to repeat the words from tessa that i read out in the debate here last month. "it was the honour of my life to be with you. and i shall cheer on from the sidelines as you keep fighting the good fight. so remember our battle cry. living with, not dying of, cancer. for more people, for longer". thank you. tributes for the life and work of ladyjowell, who's died at the age of 70. last week, the government agreed that two experts will sit with the judge investigating the grenfell tower fire.
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the announcement was made after a petition calling for a diverse panel received more than 150,000 signatures. a debate had already been scheduled to discuss the petition in westminster hall. the session began with a minute's silence and names of people who died were read out. the chamber was virtually full. and earlier there had been a demonstration in parliament square. the conservative mp who called the debate said he wanted to see openness, understanding and responsiveness. we need to do everything we can to build a retained trust with the community that they left behind. there is no doubt about that. those of us who spend a few moments on parliament square just before this debate would have seen that brought pain that is still there and you can absolutely understand why. still there are 11 months on. with so many questions unanswered and 70 people still left unhoused at the moment.
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grenfell tower is in the constituency of emma dent coad. i had one of my regular meetings with the team in charge of housing. they are on their knees. finger wagging from the government will not help. they need outside assistance now. and i will take this opportunity to repeat our request of government to call in commissioners to take control of three houses which frankly is in chaos. yet another example of how grenfell affected people have been badly let down as the government refuses to take actions which are within its power. we have to ensure the safety for those of whom we have responsibility. don't they have the right to life? how can the government state that no stone will be unturned that everything is being done when so clearly it is not? the government states they have given the council £72 million towards housing and other necessary services. meanwhile a fourth food bank is about to open to serve the immediate grenfell area. i find this shocking and unacceptable. how can the government stand by and wag their fingers
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while kensington and chelsea council are quite clearly failing in the statutory duties? you live on the 22nd floor of a tower block they literally have your life in its hands. it is the state you rely on for the roof of your head. on to come up the stairwell and save you and your family from a burning building. it is the state that has told you to stay put. approved the combustible cladding around your building. it is the state that sets the rules for the regulations that govern your life. it is the state that has failed to install working fire alarms. if you can't afford to be in the private sector, then you are at the mercy of the state. that is the bottom line. it is the state that has failed so it is the state that has to work hard to regain the trust of the grenfell families. on the governing side, i think this is an incredibly
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emotive and resonant issue. and i think in many of the speeches, maybe not so much today but in many of the things i have read, i don't think... there is massive compassion but there is not enough empathy as to how important this issue actually is and how very seriously people of different faiths and different communities take this issue. there is a danger that people reciting statistics, reciting facts are simply losing sight of the human element. a labour mp said that the community agreed that the tower should now be covered up, but not in white. to be in a vibrant colour and there wasn't... when they complained about it. they were made to feel a little bit like they were being a bother. nothing is a bother is what i want them to say. i want us as a group of people who make decisions and i ask the government to be a parent
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to these people. a liverpool mp saw parallels with the aftermath of the hillsborough disaster. when brief families are campaigning forjustice, they deserve transparency and access to the same tools available to the powerful. and that is why we need a hillsborough law. —— bereaved families. we need to make it a legal duty for public authorities and public servants to tell the truth. and more importantly challenged the culture of denial which far too often pervades public institutions. i implore the government that you can do something. do not sit back, stand up and say more words as to how this could be different and how we care and how we want this to never happen again. do something. —— warm words. in response, the minister said the prime minister's announcement that she was appointing a panel was a big decision. to change the course
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of a public enquiry is a big decision not taken lightly. she has recognised the fundamental truth of this debate which is to put the need and feelings of those most affected by this disaster at the heart. not just of the public but of all of our thoughts and processes to try and help on this journey towards healing, recovery and a rebuilding of lives and help. no, we are not going away from grenfell. we must fight for truth, justice and accountability. nick hurd. you're watching our round—up of the day in the commons and the lords. still to come. cash hand—outs to help grammar schools expand stir up plenty of comment. peers have supported a move to launch a second leveson—type inquiry into the press. last week the government saw off an attempt by some mps, including the former labour leader
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ed miliband, to alter the data protection bill requiring it to set up a new inquiry into the relationship between the media and the police. but the government's now been defeated on the issue in the lords. the independent peer lady hollins, who suffered press harassment after her daughter was left paralysed by a knife attack, proposed the holding of the second inquiry. she said every week brought new disclosures of dubious behaviour by press journalists. in any other industry the press would be demandingan inquiry and yet their opposition is uniform. we now know that the sunday times employed a blogger for 15 years to unlawfully access the phone accounts, utility bills and even bank accounts of ordinary people and government ministers. the blogger who has become a whistle—blower also said that they organised the theft of rubbish from the houses of cabinet ministers, published the stories they uncovered and then blamed it on a civil service leak. an independent barrister opposed another inquiry, saying the press
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had learned lessons. it is simply not the case that victims of phone hacking lack, and have lacked, legal remedy. newspapers have rightly been ordered to pay very substantial sums by way of compensation. it is simply unrealistic to think, in the light of the criminal prosecutions, in the light of the civil liability, that the message has not got across. a former deputy prime minister disagreed with lord pannick. i had to go to the courts to win my case, on the case of human rights, the european human rights, to get my case established that hacking my phone had been a breach in my human rights. but now since then everybody in the house has told me that is all past, now things have changed and you don't have to worry, we can nowjust get on with the business and not have a second inquiry. but then comes along the sunday times.
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the editor, who in fact now we know, from the announcements only quite recently in court cases going on that a man called john ford was hired to commit criminal acts against individuals, including me, and including the prime minister, that time gordon brown. if we launched yet another public inquiry in which i think the public would not be greatly supportive, we would be reopening a whole series of questions, some of them going back over old ground, and i appreciate again baronness hollins' promise to move forward, i think she's completely right on that. but we would be looking again and we would be opening the door again to people who are, in my view, very keen indeed to impose enormous costs upon the major newspaper groups. enormous burdens to allow those groups to be subject to having to pay malicious damages for malicious lawsuits
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which were groundless. a labour lawyer had concerns of cases of police privately contacting journalists. where people who were being asked to come to police stations to be interviewed with regard to sexual matters, not having been charged and where no charges in the end were forthcoming, had themselves put all over the front pages of newspapers, and we have sir cliff richard at this very moment involved in litigation regarding that kind of collusion and coalition between the media and the police. and so i'm concerned that the police still haven't been looked at adequately for the role that they have played in some of this particularly iniquitous conduct. and so the matter of the second part of leveson seems to me something of real importance to the well—being of our nation. a former media boss defended the new newspaper regulatory
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body known as ipso. ipso is set up as a regulator. its remit is as clear as it is affected, so in conclusion i regret i cannot support this amendment. i might add that i do not believe in keeping with my noble friend, now listed, lord cormack, that it is proper for this house to cobble together a later moment to spend public money on an ill thought through inquiry after the other place has clearly had its say. i see no public interest whatsoever in this amendment. the reason leveson two is necessary, have been well—explained by the baroness hollins in setting out her amendment. personally, i have not the slightest doubt that such a review would reveal the extensive and entirely improper set of relationships between the press, politicians and the police. with the very real possibility that significant cases of actual obstruction of justice
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would come to light. a minister urged peers to reject the proposalfor a second inquiry. high—quality news provision is vital to our society and our democracy and over many centuries our press has held the powerful to account and been free to report and investigate without fear or favour. these principles underpin our democracy and are integral to the freedoms of our nation. clauses 142, 168 and 169 would derail this bill and harm the vital work we're doing to strengthen the future of high—quality journalists in this country. the elected chamber has debated them and rejected them and i urge noble members of this house to do likewise. but that advice was rejected — at the end of the debate peers voted for the inquiry by a margin of 39. there's been criticism from both sides in the commons over the government's plans to allow
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grammar schools in england to expand. £50 million has been announced for existing grammar schools to allow them to extend their premises to take on more pupils. it's a move that ministers say will give parents more choice. but school leaders have criticised the decision, saying they were "disappointed" that the government was spending "scarce funding" on expanding grammars. in the commons, the shadow education secretary claimed that before he got his currentjob, the education secretary damian hinds had said grammar schools were not the answer to increasing social mobility. in the last parliament he thought that grammar schools, and i noticed mr speaker that he uses the term selective schools now, were not the answer to social mobility, and said he would not want one in his own town as it would be divisive. his own schools ministers said "i never get people asking why don't you bring back secondary modern?"
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and in fact most children would go to be a secondary modern school if we brought back selection. why do they now believe it is right to spend £50 million of taxpayers' money expanding selective schools? if we brought back selection. why do they now believe it is right to spend £50 million of taxpayers' money expanding selective schools? she asked me if i agree with myself and things i had said in the past. i'm happy to confirm, mr speaker, my agreement with myself. so, when she says that i was quoted as saying i don't think grammar schools where the answer to social mobility i think it's patently obvious that there is no one single answer to the challenge that we have in this country of social mobility, but there are many factors, there are many things that can play a part, and we want this type of school existing selective schools, that wish to expand to do more to contribute towards that social mobility. these proposals will only benefit a few thousand people. has my honourable friend considered the £200 million would be better spent on a one—to—one tuition of our most honourable people, those 33% who don't get free school meals.
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you could help 285,000 children as the education endowment fund has with 12 weeks of one—to—one tuition for our most vulnerable children. i should clarify when we talk about this fund, this is capital funding, not the same thing as per—pupil funding that follows the creation of a place. places will be created at all sorts of schools, the vast majority of which will be comprehensive intake. the honourable lady shakes and i'm not sure why. the vast majority of which will be comprehensive intake schools and the funding will follow in that way. students on free school meals in selective areas do less well than students on free schools in non—selective areas, so in this time of scarce catch and difficult choices, wouldn't it be better to support the dissemination of best practice from the nonselective area where we know it works? i welcome extra money
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to expand grammar places. those in my constituency need to provide more places and i hope they take him up on it. will he confirm there will also be money for the very good comprehensives in my area under his fairer funding? how can the secretary of state justify 50 million to increase places when schools in my constituency are facing a £3 million cut? can you justify that, mr secretary? mr speaker, first of all our overall revenue funding for schools is increasing, not decreasing. secondly, ifear there may be a misunderstanding. this is about the provision of new schools, not about the ongoing per annum funding, and the ongoing per annum funding will follow the creation of school places wherever that may be, including in the honorable lady's constituency or elsewhere. what justification is there for the secretary of state reneging on a solemn, manifesto commitment in our conservative manifesto on which we all stood to drop the totally ineffective faith cap, 50% cap on faith schools? he has reneged on that commitment.
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he knows perfectly well that the only new free schools that will not now open are catholic schools. catholic schools are the most diverse, the most inclusive, the most prone to operate in deprived areas. so, why have you reneged on this gap? he knows because he gave his arguments when he was a backbencher before he became a minister and he knows now there will be faith free schools all over the country, hundred percent, the only ones there will not be are catholic ones. we have taken the decision to retain the 50% faithcap on new free schools, but it is also going to be possible to open voluntary aided schools of which there are thousands across the country, they have existed since 1944.
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it's always been possible to open new voluntary aided schools, itjust has not happened in recent years because the money has not been there but it will be possible under these proposals. finally, mps were urged to take a maths test this week, as part of the first national numeracy day. the idea's been prompted by growing concern over society's apparent declining skills to process and deal with figures. some reports say half the adults in england have the numeracy skills of primary school children. an education minister said she'd be taking the test. and called on colleagues to follow suit. mr speaker, ifear that when i do the test on wednesday, which i intend to do, my stress levels will be rising. i gave up maths at 15 after i took o—level maths. i think we should be shocked if i might mention adults, one in two have the numerous skills of an 11—year—old or less and 11 million adults lack basic digital skills. we live in a rarefied atmosphere in this place, and it's quite extraordinary for some of us to appreciate that.
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the national numeracy test on wednesday is a must for every member of this house, mr speaker, and i hope they willjoin me in taking it, tweeting the picture and making sure everybody understands the need to be numerate. and that's it for this programme. alicia mccarthy will be here for the rest of the week. but for now, from me keith macdougall, goodbye. hello there, good morning. 21 celsius was our high on monday. tuesday could be a little bit warmer. it's settling down, really, this week, a lot of dry weather around, some sunshine just as we saw yesterday. the week ahead sees very
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little rain at all. very weak weather fronts heading our way because high pressure is essentially in charge. it will be a bit cooler around the middle part of the week. the cooler air is going to come in behind that very weak weather front there. not completely plain sailing, mind you, because there's areas of mist, fog and low cloud around some north sea coasts, burning back to the coast, lingering perhaps around the south—west approaches, then our weather front around scotland, northern ireland, with it a little rain or drizzle. late sunshine in the far north—west but it's ahead of the front where we have the warm sunshine and perhaps highs of 23 celsius. the weather front pushes down from scotland and northern ireland, into northern parts of england and wales. still a bit of rain in drizzle on that, more cloud coming in off the north sea towards east anglia and perhaps the south—east. clearer skies, scotland and northern ireland, quite cold here. down to about two degrees or so. down to about 2 degrees or so. a chilly feel one way or another i think on wednesday. more of a breeze coming in off the north sea.
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more cloud for england and wales. nothing in the south—east, only 17 degrees here. further north, despite some sunshine, temperatures struggling to around 12 or 13. so a bit of a chilly feel on wednesday. the weather front does move away and high pressure begins to build in across the uk. the winds begin to drop down a little bit. it may not feel quite so chilly on thursday. a little bit of a dry day, i think. some spells of sunshine around too. bit of cloud, fair weather cloud bubbling up, filling up a little bit inland. but a fine day, a dry day 17 degrees in london but 17 in glasgow, certainly an improvement here. pleasantly warm in the sunshine as well. there is a high pressure, still around the end of the week. notice we've got some weather fronts here. again, very weak, approaching the far west corner of the uk. another fine day just about everywhere on friday. some spells of sunshine, light winds too. more of an atlantic band of cloud coming to the west of northern ireland, the western isles of scotland may produce a few spots of rain but for many of us, it should feel a bit warmer on friday,
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those temperatures beginning to climb once again. the weather still fine across england and wales at least this weekend, should be perfect weather for the royal wedding in windsor. sunny spells, dry, a temperature of 21 degrees celsius. welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to viewers in north america and around the globe. my name is mike embley. our top stories — palestinian officials say israeli troops have killed 55 people in protests in the gaza strip. their anger stoked by the american decision to open a new embassy injerusalem, attended by president trump's daughter and son in law. president trump, by recognising history, you have made history. the head of britain's domestic intelligence service m15 accuses russia of "criminal thuggery" and "bare—faced lying". and the actress margot kidder, lois lane in the movie superman, has died aged 69.
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