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♪ >> welcome to the spooky edition of the best of with all due respect. this week on the show, we covered and obamacare scare. first, we discussed whether it was a wise decision for donald trump to take time off of the campaign trail. >> west in two weeks before the election, donald trump did what every underdog presidential candidate would do, attend a hotel ribbon-cutting for his -- with his family. there has been some head scratching in the media with critics accusing trump of foolishly taking time away from his campaign to promote his business interests.
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the team says it is a perfect example of his management and leadership ability. for his part, trump said -- he touted his hotel and said that the project was finished under budget and ahead of schedule and promised to bring that to washington. after that event, i asked trump about a very personal speech. >> i was trying to say we built a great building. it is the -- one of the great structures in the country. it was very important because our country -- we can build a highway, a bridge, fix a tunnel. we are in such trouble so i'm very happy with how this worked up. this butting heads turnout to be so amazing.
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>> how does the building connect to presidential aspirations? >> under budget and ahead of schedule. it is very simple. you look at what is going on. also i wanted to come and stop. it says you can do things under budget and great work. this will be one of the great hotels in the world. our country has to do things under budget and ahead of schedule. >> we will have more of that interview later in the program. after our talk, trump went back out on the campaign trail. john, was going to this hotel opening a discretion --
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distraction for smart clinical move? john: i would say that if donald trump had spent his entire campaign talking about his prowess as a builder, this event today would have been on message and effective in making the argument he was making. it seems random and kind of tailor-made to generate the kind of news coverage it has generated were people look at it and say this is donald trump looking past election day and focusing on his business interests and not spending time on the presidency. mark: i thought it was one of the best speeches he had given. he was calm and optimistic about the future of america. i don't know if he will give the speech ever again, but if he gave a version of this at the commission, and had driven that mission -- message, i think he would be doing better. it was one of the most natural and heartfelt speeches i have heard him give. i think people are making way too much of it. washington represents and a compass met for him. makes sense to me. john: i would say maybe candidates do get off the
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campaign trail. they usually do it in may, june, or july, not the last two weeks, especially when they are behind. like so many trump teaches, i think we are saying the same thing. if he had given the speech before the third debate, he had -- would be in a better position. he did not. same with the speech. same with the speech. mark: definitely too little, too late. a very well-written speech which isn't often the case for donald trump. in an and or before the circus, i'll showtime series, and conjunction with bloombergpolitics, i spoke to trunk -- trump after the event and i asked about what his opponents have insane. -- >> i wouldn't be surprised. mark: she said it is a new hotel, same story. >> let me say we had no undocumented workers. a false report was written that they found a couple. we had no undocumented workers and in fact we used e-verify for
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every single worker. a new favor came over and said i think that person is undocumented. every single worker was documented in perfected. mark: are there foreign products in the building? >> that i don't know. i would like it to make it so but our country does not make things anymore. china, mexico, germany, they are making all of our products. the problem we have is when you build something like this, so much of the bidding has to go to other countries because we don't make the products anymore. i would love to buy television sets made in the u.s. mark: did it feel differently? >> it didn't really. when i'm speaking in front of 25,000 people like last night -- we have amazing crowds all over. last night we had 25,000 and we had 15,000 that cannot get in.
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the reason they told me is stampede. mark: [indiscernible] >> that speech wouldn't be well received if i was in front of 25,000 people. but in front of a hotel, i think that speech was appropriate. mark: you redefined how candidates talk about polls. what is her journal sense of where you are in the battleground states? >> i think we are winning ohio, when he florida -- winning florida. i think we will do fantastically in pennsylvania. i think we are winning north carolina and soon new hampshire. i don't know if i am a great messenger, but the message. mark: i think -- what you want the american people to know
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about the wikileaks e-mails? >> it shows how unbelievably dishonest the whole thing is. i don't know john podesta. he says she has bad instincts. i wouldn't want anyone talking to me like that. mark: are you under the weather? >> i feel good. we will win. i really believe it. mark: you really believe you will win? >> i would say we will try to win. mark: you're not worried about utah, arizona, georgia? >> who in arizona -- and i want strong borders. mark: the polls have gotten closer. >> sure they have got closer. i have a third-party candidate which is not help. we are going to terminate obamacare. it is a disaster. arizona will be over one is percent increase for it hillary clinton wants to keep it. she wants to make it more expensive. we're going to win arizona. don't forget, we are going to be
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a doing -- doing gay massive tax cut. mark: do you want to revise health care? >> no. obamacare is a disaster. i have companies with obamacare. those people are suffering. i do not bring them out to talk about obamacare. mark: stay tuned, more of the best with all due respect right after this. mark: joining us now to talk about the stresses of the election cycle, dan harris. also, the officer -- author of "10% happier."
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dan, welcome. so we know a lot of stress people. how pers aces -- pervasive is when he six election? dan: more than half of americans say the election is giving them anxiety. 50% say -- doctors all over the country are reporting people with heart palpitations, stress eating, compulsive cleaning. mark: so this is a rare totalitarian segment on the show.
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what am i supposed to do about it dan? dan: i think there three big tips for one, limit your media consumption. also, the big piece of advice is meditation. i think it really helps. we have posted some guides on our app, 10% happier. mark: smoking hope? -- dope? ♪
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mark: joining us now to talk about the stresses of the election cycle, dan harris. author of "10% happier." dan, welcome. so we know a lot of stress people. how pers aces -- pervasive is when he six election? dan: more than half of americans say the election is giving them anxiety. 50% say -- doctors all over the country are reporting people with heart palpitations, stress eating, compulsive cleaning.
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mark: so this is a rare totalitarian segment on the show. what am i supposed to do about it dan? dan: i think there three big tips for one, limit your media consumption. also, the big piece of advice is meditation. i think it really helps. we have posted some guides on our app, 10% happier. mark: smoking hope? -- dope? dan: i don't know if there's any research into that. mark: what about meditation? will that help for someone who hasn't done it before with 12 days to go?
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dan: yes. i don't do meditation as some magical metaphysical fix. it is great exercise and the way when you exercise your body, your muscles and harkin stronger. when you exercise her brain, you get less of around by your emotions. we feel helpless, angry. we are allowing that to get us into arguments with coworkers or spouses. meditation helps you not get so
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yanked around. >> there's a perception that meditation is bull krapp --bullcrap. you are saying know this is a legitimate thing. dan: i was under the view -- >> you say like those are bad things. dan: we now know that he smokes dope and likes finger cymbals. correlation is not necessarily causation. anyway, i was under the view that it was weird for a long time. then i looked at the science. the science shows it helps your immune system, lowers blood pressure, and i give it a shot. there are plenty of weird kinds of meditation you can do. i think if you do the straight up secular kind, you are in good hands. >> it doesn't have to be transcendental to work?
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dan: a lot of people do tm who are pretty straight. i just got off the train in philadelphia. we convened tramp -- trump supporters and clinton supporters together in the room. by the end, actually, they started talking about shared humanity. these are people who had just come from basically shooting daggers at eyes at one another. >> so they were singing come by? dan: something to that effect. mark: coming up, hall of famer bill bradley will be with us when we come right back.
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♪ mark: half a century ago, lyndon b. johnson released an ad that was considered one of the most powerful political ads ever. now, people of the buckeye state are getting their own trump focus, daisy style ad. the spot is called careful. take a look. >> one nuclear bomb can kill one million people.
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that is more than all the men, women, and children in ohio -- columbus, ohio. mark: the shadowy super pac that is running that at plans to put at least $75,000 to run that add in columbus. one-time democratic presidential candidate bill bradley is a well-known hater of super pac. he is here to explain what made him get a super pac to help run the ad. >> the president calculates the enemy. if he doesn't have the leadership skills to defuse a crisis, then it doesn't matter what his position is on other issues. because we will all be toast.
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i happen to think it is an up or thing for people to ask. who do i trust with my life? i think that is for republicans to ask, as well as democrats. we are dealing with very serious issues and i think about donald trump and i say he does not have the ability or experience to be able to defuse a crisis diplomatically. mark: why not go to ohio and give speeches about this. why engage in the big-money politics? >> i think this is the most powerful way to reach the will. you have heard me speak. [laughter] >> this is something you might ask how did this come about?
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for almost a year, i watched the outrageous innuendos of trump. the slurring of african-americans, latinos, and muslim americans, denigrating of women. threatening to put his opponent in prison, attacking the american democracy with not saying if he will abide by the result, saying dangerous things all the time. i said i'm appalled. what can a citizen do and so, i had a conversation with my friend torch lucas who came up with the idea of a commercial that would essentially educate people about what nuclear war means. i then took it to another friend in boston who produced it. i then had it tested by the firm of my former communications
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director. i then started a super pac because that is the only way he can get on and i raised money through contributors and we bought time in ohio for people to contemplate what might happen if donald trump was in the position with his finger on the nuclear button. mark: i want to get to the question about testing this ad.
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there's been a variety of things trump has said on for policy that many consider dangerous. the nuclear issue seems to be a big one. it is amazing that people don't discuss it more. that he is kind of in favor of nuclear percolation -- proliferation. is this a threat? >> i think so. we are closer to nuclear war today than we were during the cold war. people are unaware of the danger so this is to make it clear to people that this is a danger. mark: for whatever reason, people are fixated on terrorism.
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there's not why discussion of this so it inadequate in ohio going to solve that -- an at in ohio going to solve that? >> once the president says the missiles are gone, they're gone. they can pull them back. i think there is a question of personality. donald trump is erratic. he is undisciplined. he lashes out. that is not the person we want with the nuclear button. we want someone who is steady and not impulsive. the real question is also focus. look at donald trump in his three debates. how long did he focus? he did not even focus an hour and a half. if you are president, you have to be able to focus on it for seven. -- 24/7.
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mark: talk about tax reform and what impressions he had a few and you of him. >> i was on his early loser list i think. there was an issue related to his casinos in atlantic city which he thought the answer was sports gambling. the idea is not what happened in the past, but what the american people have to decide today and what kind of country we want to become. i travel around the country as a politician and businessman and basketball player. when i ran for president back in the palin pick -- paleolithic era -- that is the america that trump is running against. mark: stay tuned, we discussed the obamacare news that broke this week and what it means for the election cycle right after this.
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♪ mark: republicans are on offense today after the obama administration announced that health care premiums under the affordable care act will go up an average of 20%. donald trump has been talking about this pretty much all day, including at length in sanford, florida. mr. trump: my first day in office i will ask congress to , put a bill on my desk getting rid of this disastrous law. 25%.said forget 25%. it will be 60%, 70%, 80%, 90%. in the great state of arizona, it is over 100%. even bill clinton admitted that
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obamacare is the craziest thing in the world where people wind up with their premiums doubled and coverage cut in half. then he was forced to take it back the next day because it -- that night he suffered greatly. is one ofobamacare the single most important reasons we must win on november 8. mark: trump also warned people will see fewer insurance options under obamacare, and he vowed to give people more choices if he becomes president. democrats are pushing back. they say the subsidies for most people who cannot afford insurance on their own will be offset with subsidies against the rising rates next year, but this obamacare news has been a juicy fillet of redmeat for conservatives across the fruited plain blue have warned for years
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about rate hikes of less consumer choice. >> the story of obamacare premiums going up 25%, we need to stop for a second, because this is outrageous, and it ought to have everybody in this country up in arms. by all rights, everybody in this country ought to be flipping mad and feeling betrayed and lied to by the democratic party and by obama and, by extension, and hillary clinton ought to be in deep trouble because she is out there advocating this thing. mark: so, bill clinton, you heard trump say got in trouble big league john: -- john: big league. mark: again talking in north carolina. mr. clinton: you keep what is good about the law and attack the problems. she is the only person who can
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vote for who wants to do that. he just said, i am going to repeal this law, trust me on the rest. look, what are the problems with the law? we can all tick 'em off. the co-pays, deductibles, and premiums are too high. the dump prices -- drug prices are too high. mark: republicans are jumping all over this. is this a game changer for republicans or are they overstating what they have? john: where do i start -- first of all, bigly, not big league. also, that hat, i don't think i have seen that before. mark: you've got to pay closer attention. john: first of all -- most of the people in the country do not need to be outraged. this is not a small group of people. most people get their insurance from their employers. there has been a stabilization
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in the way the public views this law. it's a little more unpopular. about mid 40's people like it. a little higher, people dislike of your this is not going to revolutionize that and start to reach people who -- the might be some, a small number -- you are not going to like the premiums going up, but the idea this will revolutionize the race, most republicans have hated the law for a long time and now will hate it even more, just like rush does. it will not change the dynamics of the presidential campaign -- mark: if other candidates could talk about this in a disciplined way, i think it could make a difference. john: i thought we were talking about the presidential race primarily? mark: i'm talking about the old -- all campaign. almost every republican on the ballot does not support the affordable care act. almost every democrat does. you will see places where the races are close -- particularly in states where the nl statistics show -- take arizona. and in the presidential race, to
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o you will see -- in the , presidential race, too, you will see an energized race. it is a great test for donald trump. today he did an imperfect job. trump has exposed the fact that he does not understand the law very well. john: a lot of outside groups like the koch brothers and others have focused on this issue. they have put a lot of money behind the media. this will be helpful, i agree with you, possibly in some legislative races, senate races, republicans will get a talking point and it could help them. but i will say for all of them and specifically for donald trump, it would be easier to take advantage of this is they had an alternative. [bell rings] donald trump saying there will be more choice under my plan -- there is no donald trump plan on health care. mark: it could help them from being blown out because he is currently on a path to being blown out. john: a new wikileaks update. new e-mails posted on that show -- and among other things, downright vicious infighting between chelsea clinton and
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longtime clinton aide doug band. to brush revelations are getting the most attention because they offer a window into how clinton unorthodox n.l. practices-- e-mail when they were revealed in march 2015. the first is an e-mail that seems to depict that president obama knew about the private e-mail account, even though he said publicly at the time he learned about it through his reports. referring to e-mails between the president and clinton when she used the private account, mills wrote "we need to clean this up." the second e-mail turning heads is a colloquy between john podesta and the center for american progress president, who complained that clinton's team failed to get out ahead of the e-mail server story. he says that they did not disclose the private account sooner because "they wanted to get away with it." mark, i will ask you the same question you asked me. conservative media outlets are jumping all over these disclosures.
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are these as big a game changer as republicans are portraying them to be and hope they will be? mark: these are pretty bad. we have had days and days of this. these are as bad as they are as far as an atmosphere of attempting to cover-up clinton behavior. it's so problematic for them that none of these are from hillary clinton the. -- though. this is still staffers talking about things. no smoking gun. i do not think the dam is going to burst. i don't think this is a game changer on the presidential level, but it does create a momentum for the republicans and energize the republican base as much as any that have been disclosed so far. john: "we need to clean this up." obviously they were in damage control mode when this came to light. that does not shock me. the obama thing is -- there are a lot of questions about the possibility president obama had an anonymous account or was connected to hillary clinton's private account and what he
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knew, but that story has been put to bed a long time ago. the white house came out and said, you know what, the president said that he did not know she had a home server -- mark: the damaging thing for a president clinton, not in terms of getting elected, it shows that there is finger-pointing and suspicion and enablers around her and powerful people cannot stop the enablers from enabling. john: i don't disagree with that. mark: up next, we talk about the impact of wikileaks on the election, my search for julian assange, and john farrell discussion with roger stone, next. ♪
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♪ john: you have no direct contact with julian assange. >> correct. john: you have a go between that is a good friend of yours. >> yes. john: are you suggesting,
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through your mutual friend, in the next three weeks, wikileaks will release or could release information that is substantially more damaging to hillary clinton than what it has release already? >> yes. i think the race is close enough and the electorate is volatile enough, anything could substantially change the race. donald trump may need some breaks, but to say he is out of it, it is over -- nothing is over until we say it is. mark: i'm at the embassy of ecuador here in knightsbridge. this is one of the fanciest areas of london where julian assange has lived -- basically in captivity of his own choosing since 2012 there we do know he obsessively looks at the wikileaks twitter account. i'm going to start tweeting at the guy. we will see what happens.
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is there anything i can do? can i handwrite a question? i would literally like him to answer one question. it would take maybe 30 seconds. what expect of the podesta e-mails? do you think the u.s. media has underreported? ok. he can just write a short answer. >> we got an answer. mark: my question was, what aspect of the podesta e-mails do you think the u.s. media has underreported? one word -- everything.
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>> that was part of this week's episode of "the circus," in conjunction with bloombergpolitics. it airs sundays at 8:00 p.m. eastern. and we have our two guests from the nation's capitol. they both join us. julian assange says "everything" when asked what we are recovering as the media in this race. been undercover with wikileaks it are some of the most useful revelations for the race and the next administration? >> i think they have a point that at least initially they were under covered. i think they are getting a lot of coverage now. but in terms of what has been revealed, the specifics are not all that revelatory, not all that shocking. but what it does is a really
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gives you a behind-the-scenes look at the kind of handwringing and strategizing that goes on internally within a campaign and also for those of us who are junkies -- you know, a lot of the back fighting, a lot of the organizational tension. it's interesting in that the clinton operation on the outside seems to have run pretty -- in a pretty disciplined way. certainly a big, big contrast from her last campaign in 2008. what we have seen from these e-mails is they are not without tension and some of the old problems, including some of the clinton hangers on have continued? >> you think there has been a smoking gun and how much of the level of coverage can be explained by media bias? how much by donald trump just making so much news on other
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fronts that it is kind of hard to stay focused on the first thing? >> the first batch of these e-mails came out the same day and the same weekend that the truck "access hollywood" tape featuring his lewd remarks about making unwanted advances toward women came out, so i do think it was natural the trump remarks were covered over and above the e-mails, and that is largely why i think they got less coverage. there was less excitement and attention paid to the subsequent round of e-mails that have come out. i think slightly understandably. the smoking gun, i would say, not only do they reinforce what people already thought about hillary clinton, that there is a tremendous amount of strategizing about how she is presented to the public and all of the tensions that between the forces in the clinton global initiative, the financial aspects of that, versus her
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public appearances, what bill clinton is doing -- but they have not disabused the public of any notions the public has had about her, her honesty, and i do think, though donald trump is getting the bulk of the attention right now during the campaign, once she gets into office -- which it does seem she is likely to do -- the sorts of things will haunt her throughout her entire presidency. >> there has been a lot work coverage in the conservative media about the e-mails -- "daily caller" in particular seems to be flooding those out. is there anything that has the potential to break through and become more of an issue in the day to day in the remaining weeks of this campaign? eliana: i think her comment about wanting free trade and open borders is certainly going to haunt her with the far left. her remark about free trade will. her remark about open borders
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will haunt her with the right. what you hear from immigration hawks, they are considered feverish and crazy for saying what some on the left really want is open borders, and here we have hillary clinton saying that outright in her e-mails. it will be fair for her to say these are crazy right-wingers accusing the left of something they don't really want and not being -- not coming to the table with good faith about protecting the border and securing the border. no, that is what she set out right. the other thing, what really looks like pay to play on morocco. she was not secretary of state, but she was running for president. that's pretty damning. john: i'm next one of the highlights of the week -- first lady michelle obama hits the campaign trail with hillary clinton. we talk with a reporter on the clinton beat in one moment ♪
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♪ mrs. obama: i know there are some folks out there who have commented it has been unprecedented for a sitting first lady to be so actively engaged in a presidential campaign. and that may be true. but what is also true is this is truly an unprecedented election. [cheers and applause] mrs. obama: and that is why i am out here. mark: that was more of michelle obama, the star of hillary clinton's rally in north carolina. joining us now one of the best reporters in the business. what do you think of the body language? i remember bill clinton and barack obama did one event in 2008 and the body language was not that warm. it seemed pretty warm to me today. reporter: yeah, it was.
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they came out together, not totally in the classic clinton arm in arm pose, that you would see maybe with a vice president, but very, you know, close together, and michelle obama made a point of saying she considers clinton a friend. i think that was in some ways to the-- a nod perception that they do not have a particularly close relationship. it is certainly true they do not have an enormous amount of experience with one another and their relationship was not so great eight years ago in the aftermath of the 2008 election. it has grown considerably deeper and warmer sense. -- since. i thought michelle obama had substantive things to say today about what she thought clinton could do as president that go beyond a standard one democrat
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endorsing another kind of stump speech. john: i think one of the big stories of 2016 is the undeniable reality that michelle obama is the biggest star of the democratic party. she is performing at a level even higher than her husband, but she is not out as often as her husband who is doing a lot of campaigning. how much will we see her between now and election day? anne: a fair amount, a surprisingly large amount even by the clinton campaign 's expectations. they will tell you, they are surprised michelle obama wants to do as much as she is volunteering to do. and they are not pressuring her to do more, they say, but she came to them with a number of proposals about things she wanted to talk about. and including today's event, the side-by-side with hillary clinton. i think one data point that is telling is they booked a really big venue today. it is a stadium that in some
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configurations can seat 14,000 people. the way that it was configured today, it seeks fewer than that. and there was a capacity crowd of about 11,000 according to the fire marshal. that is more than twice the size of any but the very, very two or three largest clinton rallies we have seen all year. crowd sizes at recent rallies -- and we are two weeks from the election. crowd sizes at recent rallies have been more in the 1700, 2500, 3000 range. certainly not 11,000. mark: i want to switch over the wikileaks and the doug dan disclosures. and christina palmeri has been talking, everything she said was the russians, the russians, everything is the russians. do you get the sense that they plan to keep that up? will that be the answer for the next two weeks, or something going to force their hand?
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anne: well, they do not think that something is going to force their hands yet. it certainly appears with 12 days left they can get it out by continually saying, this is stolen property, by the way it was stolen by the russians. has anyone taken a good hard look at donald trump's connection to the russians? all good questions, all valid points, but completely beside the point to the mounting pile of dirty laundry we see in these e-mails. notably, they do not dispute the authenticity of these e-mails. they simply won't confirm it. john: anne, do you think -- donald trump once again giving vladimir putin praises, a gift to the clinton campaign -- have they gone through all of john podesta's gmail now so they know what julian assange has so they know what can come out between now and election day? anne: god, you would hope so,
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right? just to know the potential trove that is out there. one thing we really don't know from the outside is exactly when it was clear to the campaign that this material had been stolen and exactly how much they knew about the size and scope of that theft. podesta apparently never deleted anything. he had many, many years of e-mail stored in his gmail. so, apparently with one hack, whoever did it was able to go back many years spanning podesta's time out of government, at the white house, and as he was the chairman and waiting of the campaign. so, it was an awful lot exposed there. you have to think the clinton campaign and lawyers have been going through that for months.
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we knew that they knew that there was a risk out there. we did not know exactly what it was. mark: we talked earlier about we have seen weeks and weeks and , days of these e-mails -- the yesterday front page stories in your paper, the "new york times." what about that memo? anne: it drew a lot of lines we have only seen the traces of before, it drew them quite explicitly. and beyond that, here you have doug band, once one of bill clinton's most loyal and trusted, closest aides appearing to point fingers at the boss, right? at bill clinton, saying, look, how come you're saying i should not be doing some of these overlapping -- having some of this overlapping business
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relationships, some of these, when bill clinton has far more than i do and has even greater exposure, if you consider it a risk, greater exposure than i do? that's an extraordinary thing for someone in his position, and frankly who owed his position to bill clinton, to say. one interesting aspect of it, i think it raised the profile of it and caused us to write about it in the detail we did -- here you see john podesta trying to tamp this down a little bit and saying, hey, cool it. i don't think that is quite the language you want to use. and he is saying, oh, no, that is exactly what i want to say and i want to defend myself. john: thank you very much for watching this edition of the best of "with all due respect." if you're watching us and washington, d.c., you can also watch us on the radio. politics foromberg
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all of our election coverage. we will see you again monday. until then, for me and mark ♪
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