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north korea. trump: the united states has great patience, but it did is forced to defend itself are its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. reporter: the president told and his pursuit of nuclear weapons poses a threat to the world. hurricane irma caused up to $65 billion in property damage. damagemated 80% of flood was to homes without flood insurance. meanwhile, officials say one person has died on guadalupe after being hit by a falling tree. it is the first death attributed to hurricane maria. people are missing after their being -- boat sank. about 40% of the island is without power. at least 42 people are dead after a powerful earthquake struck near mexico city.
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it is mexico's second major earthquake this month. nieto,nt enrique pena who is attending the general us only in new york, is returning immediately. global news 24 hours a day powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. i'm emma chandra. ♪ emily: i'm emily chang, and this is "bloomberg technology." coming up, higher learning courtesy of you density. they just kicked off a nano degree program. we will hear from the founder. plus, twitter's direct message on terror. the company flag 300,000 accounts that it said promotes global extremism. how effective can it be at limiting the spread of hate? we will discuss.
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and equifax continues to unravel. first, to the lead. a group representing u.s. venture capitalists is suing the trump administration over his decision to delay enactment of an immigration rule impacting foreign entrepreneurs. the department of homeland security violated federal administrative rules when it delayed the start of the international entrepreneur rule.it would permit international entrepreneurs with an ownership interest in u.s. u.s. --artups in the some criteria they would have to meet include starting the company within five years of owning atonly -- least 10% of the venture, and have qualifying investments $250,000.t least critics call it a stopgap measure that could complicate the risks associated with business in the u.s. with uncertain foundations.
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joining me to discuss is bobby franklin, the ceo of the group leading the suit, and eric hippeau.from lerer will start with you. what do you make of this? reporter: it is an interesting lawsuit. this isn't the only rule the -- excuse me, obama era ruled the trump administration has sought to delay and eventually get rid of. the suit challenges whether the trump administration can do this without opening a comment period first. is a weird rule the trump administration is trying to resend. it seems like it would normally fit into the category of immigrants that president would like to see more in the united states. what is happening is twofold. hisp is trying to establish
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legacy as a raising obama's legacy, including every rule obama issued in his presidency. -- two, there are st. mary's there are serious immigration restrictions, people who think there should be lower immigration overall. by repealing this rule, those folks are probably trying to achieve their goals. emily: bobby, why file the suit?what do you hope to accomplish ? >> we hope to get the rules and it did we hope the dhs is in position to accept applications. this is about a competition the u.s. is in with the rest of the world. other countries are ruling out red carpets. britain,anada, great france, singapore. all across the low, they recognize there are talented entrepreneurs and they are trying to attract them to their countries to grow a new company on their soil. what are we doing? we have red tape.
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it is not a partisan issue. it is not against president trump or president obama. both of them have talked about the importance of ringing international entrepreneurs that can get capital anywhere across the globe, bringing them here to our country and making sure we grow u.s. jobs and the economy. emily: you are an immigrant and entrepreneur, eric. what is your take? >> my take is that foreign entrepreneurs coming to the u.s. is a desirable thing to do. about half of our companies have at least one member of the original team, the founding team, who is an immigrant. i am an immigrant.these are people who make huge contributions to our economy and society. i don't see why we would make it difficult for them to come. as not be just mentioned, they could go elsewhere. they could go to canada, france, other places. we are competing with other nations. emily: obviously, president's
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explanation is creating u.s. jobs, making sure u.s. workers have a place to work what.about the idea this is merely a stopgap measure anyway, when immigration reform in general is broken? >> it is broken. we have been working on this issue for many years. back in 2013, we had the opportunity to get a startup visa passed through the u.s. senate, but it didn't make it all the way into law. each year we work with congress to try and get them to pass legislation. there are bills in this congress introduced by both republicans and democrats that would create a startup these that to make it easier for entrepreneurs to come here and start companies, but in the absence of legislation making it into law, we have to do what we can. dhs promulgated a rule. and went through comment, we had a rule ready to take effect july 17. one week before that, dhs decided to rescind that. we don't think they follow the
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procedure under the administrative procedures act, and it is the only thing we have to get more entrepreneurs here in our country. emily: alex, obviously there have been conflict in measures conflicting -- comments from the administration. what are the steps we are likely to see in the coming days and weeks when it comes to taking action on what the president has signaled? reporter: the priority in the immediate future is to do something about daca, the so-called dreamers, the young immigrants brought illegally by their parents. democrats say they struck a deal with trump to handle that issue. i have not heard anything, any kind of a legislative letters aleutian -- legislative resolution on this issue. i would not expect that to be tackled by congress in the near future, if at all.perhaps it could be part of a comprehensive immigration bill, but that is me in the future. that is not even under consideration right now. emily: have any of these moves
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impacted your entrepreneurs in any way? our people nervous? are they changing their plans? >> by definition, we back people who are here legally with a visa . but the community is nervous. saying -- well, i was welcome when i came. this is my dream. my dream is the u.s. this is why i'm here. why is this changing? why am i not part of this great community? there is a great degree of anxiety. emily: bobby, any response to the lawsuit so far? will take thet we next steps. we will likely file an injunction to get dhs to move forward. stay tuned. bobby franklin, ceo of the national venture capital association, alex wayne from bloomberg news, and eric
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hippeau, my guest host, you are sticking with me.we are watching twitter announced the appointment as a new independent director. he served as cfo of google. this move is effective december 1. hugh johnson move, will resign his seat on the twitter ford effective in october. -- board effective in october. coming up, you -- city has partnered with -- udacity has partnered with lyft. and "bloomberg technology," is live streaming on twitter. this is bloomberg. ♪
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uber is pursuing an advertising media, alleging the firm in part barely build the company for fake online ads, and took credit for downloads it had nothing to do with. it is owned by the world's fourth-largest advertising company. uber is seeking $40 million in damages. tech crunch disrupt 2017 kicked off this week in san francisco. udacity, and online learning platform, announced registration for a new intro to self driving cars now no degree. this is alongside new partnerships with lyft. the udacity founder joined bloomberg tv from the event earlier to discuss the partnership. everybody is talking about
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the self driving car. we all understand if it succeeds, there will be more than one million jobs on the line. we want to help everyone to become an engineer in this space and be a contributor. you could learn how to be a self driving car engineer and join many other companies in building these amazing technologies. reporter: and partnering with lyft on these scholarships, are you aiming to target women and minorities, those who might not be typical applicants? >> yes, udacity has a very strong social mission. we try to bring in minorities, women, and people of color.we have a strong presence in the young east to make sure people in the middle east have a new perspective. at the car, we care for people to learn something interesting. so many people are left behind. smart people are left behind and universities are not taking care
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us. we try to reach people of all ages, ethnicities, all financial backgrounds. reporter: i want to ask you more broadly about what's going on in the self driving car space. there's a lot of excitement. what we see from the legs of google and apple is that they haven't fundamentally recalibrated plans. what is it about the industry that is forcing them? to make changes -- forcing them to make changes? the race is on. in the last two years, the number of startup companies joining the game has been staggering. if you look at the automobile industry today, the self driving car is the hottest topic. reporter: but how do you know you are appropriate -- creating a training program that will actually be right given the speed at which the technology is adapting and moving, and how much does it cost?
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what job translation have you seen of the students that are taking your program? how many are getting jobs in the industry? thane program costs less $205,000. companiesrectly with like mercedes, google, and tesla. the original program launched last year got over 40,000 applications. over 60 people already found jobs in companies like ford, google, and others. it's a new way of teaching and building a university. we strongly believe companies that hire our graduates are the ones who should be responsible and making it perfect. reporter: are you going to be signing up with the likes of tesla and apple in the future to provide them with talent to facilitate growth in this
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industry? is that your plan? >> that is something we have been doing all along. you can learn deep learning, artificial intelligence. the people who instructor from ibm, at&t, google, and leading companies. we can give them a voice in education to reach people. we have been operating for many years. roughly half of our students find a new job within the first six months of graduation. speakingbastian thrun, from the tech crunch disrupt conference in san francisco. coming up, the biggest cities in theica are bidding to be location for amazon's second headquarters. which locales are at the top of the list? we will discuss. this is bloomberg. ♪
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emily: with a little less fanfare than apple last week, amazon is out with an update to a product. they debuted a new update of the fire hd 10 tablet with a high definition screen to watch video, with a lower price, and a processor that runs faster. the most significant new features hands-free voice control, which lets people do similar acts like the echo speaker earlier this year. it will be available this month
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-- . amazon is still on the hunt for a city that could be the home of its second headquarters. brooklyn could be the big winner. the $5 billion corporate compound is expected to create 50,000 jobs over the next 15 to 17 years. brooklyn's reputation as a hub for millennials could give it a leg up, although the borough has come up short in attracting big-name companies. we have to talk about this, because we are in new york today. what do you think the likelihood is of amazon ending up here? >> we would love it. 50,000 tech workers in brooklyn with beef and testing. i think the chance is actually low. new york is a very expensive place to set up a business. in the current administration, new york is not particularly business friendly. i'm not even sure new york is bidding. emily: what is business friendly? eric: i was talking about the local administration.
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york should be looking for those kinds of opportunities, because those are the kinds of jobs that are higher-paying, information-based. ofon't know that the city new york is actually even actively looking at attracting that. emily: what do you think amazon should be looking for in a second headquarters? it cannot build out headquarters in seattle. they are at capacity. eric: i think it needs a city or a place where there is a lot of higher education, a lot of young people who are looking for the jobs of the new economy, and a business friendly environment. emily: we do have a sound bite from the mayor of philadelphia. obviously, a lot of's cities are competing. take a listen. >> we have gotten criticism about corporate tax breaks, but this is too big of a deal. it is too many jobs and too great of a company for us not to go after it.
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we would love to have them here. we have a lot of people who could use the work, and we have i.t. startups and tech companies who have come into philadelphia recently. emily: how does the city benefit ? do have to give them some tax breaks, i imagine. on the other hand, you are providing 50,000 really good paying jobs for people who are paying taxes themselves and who will buy local products and services. it's a definite plus for the city. cornell just opened tech. bloomberg was involved in that. it would go really well with attracting the second headquarters of a big tech company. emily: i wonder if new york would do a good job of attracting younger talent. who doesn't want to moved to new york? eric: exactly. it's a great place for a startup. most people love new york. there's a lot of diversity and things to do. but the city needs to have a
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plan in place to attract a company like amazon. emily: how would you describe the of -- evolution of the new york tech scene? it has always played second fiddle to san francisco. the scene is changing. how much closer is silicon valley to silicon valley these days? eric: the silicon valley of new york is the second-largest in the u.s., one of the largest in the world. new york does what is good at. software development, applications and services. we are not going to be reinventing the plumbing of the internet. we are not going to create the next generation of routers. however, we are starting to see all kinds of companies in all sectors because we have access in new york to the same technology people in silicon valley have . emily: when is that $10 billion company coming out of new york? it is in thely, pipeline. there are a number of companies that have achieved billion
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dollar valuations that have the potential. hippeau, lerer hippeau ventures, you are sticking with me. thank you. son, sprint's chairman, sat down with a wide-ranging interview. rubenstein asked if he thinks the deal will get approved. >> i don't know, but it is their decision. i think it makes sense not to have just a huge monopoly with such a big market share making a ton of profit. giganticf two oligarchies, a real fight is better. at the same time, we have another company as a possibility that we may consider to do it. we have not decided one or the
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other. masayoshi son, chairman, ceo and wonder of softbank on "the david rubenstein show," erring on bloomberg tv. coming up, new revelations that equifax was attacked five months before it was revealed to the public. check us out on the radio. listen on the bloomberg radio app, bloomberg.com, and on sirius xm. this is bloomberg. ♪
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delivers consistent network performance and speed across all your locations. fast connections everywhere. that's how you outmaneuver. mark: i am mark crumpton in new york. you are watching "bloomberg technology." let's begin with a check of first word news. the death toll from the magnitude 7.2 earthquake that struck near mexico city is up to 44.
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it is mexico's second major earthquake this month. president enrique pena nieto, who attended the un's general assembly in new york, is mexico.g to officials say one person has died on guadeloupe after being hit by a falling tree. it is the first death recorded in the category five hurricane maria. in a meeting with the amir of qatar, president trump denied that he warned saudi arabia and the emirates against taking military action in doha, after reports that both gulf nations were looking to move the qatari regime -- remove the qatari regime. they accused the country of sponsoring terror. the u.s. senate held the confirmation hearing today for jon huntsman, president trump nominee to be ambassador to russia. huntsman took a firm stance against moscow for its interference in the 2016 u.s. residential election -- presidential election. question,s no
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underline no question, the russian government interfered in andu.s. election last year, moscow continues to metal and moscow continues to metal in the democratic processes of our allies. mark: republicans and democratic senate if they huntsman's highly qualified. british police arrested a third suspect in connection with a bomb that partially exploded on a london subway. they arrested a 25-year-old man in wales under the terrorism act.two other men arrested over the weekend are still in custody. global news 24 hours a day powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. i'm mark crumpton. this is bloomberg. it is just after 5:30 p.m. in new york, 7:30 a.m. wednesday morning in sydney. my colleague paul allen has a look at the markets. paul: good morning. another positive day in the u.s. with markets hitting record highs again.it is going to be another positive day in
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the asia-pacific as well. we already had nikkei futures 1%.of chicago up a 10th of waiting on the trade balance for august out of japan. it is expected to narrow significantly, about 930 million u.s. dollars, with exports increasing with 40.3%. in australia, the asx trading a quarter of a percent higher. iron or down 4.1% below $70 a ton, so the resources sector may way today. elsewhere, and is a land -- new zealand numbers out. i'm paul allen in sydney. more from "bloomberg technology," next. ♪ welcome back to "bloomberg technology." i'm emily chang. the bad news for equifax,
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credit monitoring company that revealed they also suffered a major hack back in march, nearly five months before they publicly disclosed. the company claims this was not related to the july 29 hack that exposed sensitive data of 143 million customers, a breach it did not reveal until september 7. after bloomberg reported on the march breach, the company says they experienced a security incident involving a payroll related service. 100,000 canadian customers were also affected by the september breach. joining me to discuss the latest mike riley,ng saga, and still with us, managing partner at lerer hippeau ventures. it is so hard to read this and not get angry. it gets worse and worse. what do we know about how this -- this new breach and what they knew before they told the public? reporter: we don't know a lot, because they are not being clear, but we do know they had a
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major security investigation going on starting in march and going through may. they hired the same cyber security firm they brought back in july, and they did a pretty expensive investigation for three-month. that is a pretty expensive prospect. but interestingly, if you look at the timeline of the july incident, the hackers, even though they found out about the data in july, when they did the investigation, they discovered the data was stolen in may, which would have put it in the middle of the earlier investigation. there's a question of why that wasn't found, how can you have a company like this examining your networks and just missed the presence of a hacker in your network, and the theft of this kind of data? it also raises questions about what the executive's new knew, and when,
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and whether they knew this when they were doing trades. it raises all sorts of questions. in a data breach like this, you want to be as transparent with the public as possible, and as early as possible. we just keep getting a trickle of new information almost daily now. emily: it feels like a mess and it feels like they are not being transparent idol. eric, you have a credit card, you're probably among the 14 3 million people like everyone else. as a it is shocking to me ceo of a company. ending up in these credit service bureaus without us knowing about it. we suspect, we have a credit score, but they collect sensitive information about us without our authorization, so the least you would expect is that the most important job they
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do is to maintain that data safely. if you have information on the majority of american citizens, you have to expect the whole hacking world will come after you. that's the one job. we need full transparency, because how can we possibly trust them again? you are getting new information about the motivation of these hackers, potentially that they were interested in getting into the big banks. what more do we know about the end goal of these attacks? reporter: we don't know a lot, because the company isn't telling us a lot. one of the things we know is if you have hackers in your system and a system like equifax, they will probably not just look for thing, even something as
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valuable as social security numbers on 143 million u.s. can consumers. equifax serves a key part of the financial infrastructure in the country, so it has direct links between its system and the bank systems. one of the things we did find out is there is evidence some to get into atis least one major bank in canada. that raises all sorts of questions about what else the hackers did with their time in a good sex? -- in equifax? they discovered the breach at the end of july, but the hackers had been there at least from may. what were they doing over that for months? their equifax announced retirement of senior executives, but there is still questions around this executive share sale. how is this fitting into the timeline of what we think they knew and when?
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reporter: the timeline is specific, but it does not have wiggle room. they say they learned about the hack on july 29. one group of share sales happened at the beginning of august, but there were a handful of days between the time they learned and the time of the sale. not say the executives did know about the hack in the span of those three days.even the people who work at equifax say that just seems unlikely. a company has a protocol for what they do when they are entailsand that briefing executives in a short period of time, certainly not three days. it raises a lot of questions. u.s. prosecutors have opened an investigation because they want to find out what the executives knew, and whether or not they violated insider-trading laws. emily: what is the recourse for consumers here? reporter: this is a very
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different thing they target. credit card numbers, it is a temporary thing they can cancel and reissue. what these hackers potentially got was specific data at the center of our financial like birthdays and seclusion -- social security numbers. consumers can do short-term things like that credit monitoring that equifax is monitoring for free. they can freeze access to the credit reports, which is typically a hard thing to do in a short-term measure. but five or 10 years from now when the data is still being used. emily: thank you. can't wait to see the scoop you bring us. eric hippeau, from lerer hippeau you ares, -- ventures, sticking with me. alibaba is said to be buying up cpm150 million in a chinese
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-- company. the biggestalready shareholder before the ipo. coming up, the chairman of the senate intelligence committee is planning to call facebook before a hearing to discuss russia's meddling on the platform leading up to the u.s. election.we will discuss that next. this is bloomberg. ♪
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emily: one of the hottest areas for mergers and acquisitions has been media and telecommunications, with megadeals like at&t buying time
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warner. the bloomberg daybreak: americas team spoke to the global head of -- at j.p. morgan and asked why media is so hot. >> it has been one of the best dynamic periods. these sectors have realized they are in the same sector, consumer media. the level of divergence has been unprecedented. to smallest company is close $50 billion. it is not small ball. the amount of rumors we have seen has also been impressive. i think it is instructive to look at the deals you mentioned in terms of the deals that have happened, what do they say about where the industry is going and how it is different. reporter: let's take a look at the discovery, buying scripps. that is to companies coming
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together, but still relatively modest compared to other companies you are talking about. two content companies coming together, but it is different from deals in the past.the focused of both is -- when you think about world where content will be distributed over multiple platforms with more consumer choice over internet or satellite the ability to have, excellence in a particular demographic will be more before.t than ever the deal allows discovery to enhance its position from a scale and production perspective in a nonfiction lifestyle. reporter: they are still depending on other people to distribute it. >> they are, but distribution is getting broader and broader. emily: moving on to technology id the big m&a opportunities,
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spoke to the cohead of investment banking at goldman sachs. >> the two places i would be most focus on would be tech and media telecom sector. in technology, we had the biggest technologies in the world, amazon, facebook, google, and abdel -- apple, not participants in big scale m&a. amazon had interesting transaction on whole foods. those companies have gone in different strategic directions. we can see big transactions happening here it on the media telecom side, there are probably eight telecom cable wireless companies in the u.s. that are eyeing each other and looking to consolidate. we could see that turned down to 5, 4 in the next few years. reporter: for the tech park, we are used to seeing smaller and on deals in the space. are we going to see the guys
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making big acquisitions? >> they will continue to think about consolidation, and the communications companies you are talking about, like at&t acquiring time warner, that's an example. five years ago we never thought a communications company -- would spend $100 million on content. what is important today is consumer engagement and advertising engagement. this gives it more opportunity to engage with customers and be more relevant advertisers in the same way google and facebook and those companies are. reporter: where is the pipeline strongest? >> i would say it is as busy as it's ever been. we are saying a level of strategic dialogue across all sectors that is probably unprecedented in my career. the challenge is there is sometimes more smoke than fire,
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and every day the media has a new rumor about a 100 -- $100 billion megadeal. the challenges we have, there are 15 or so companies that will basically determine the future of consumer broadband in america. billion.est one is $50 more than half of them are controlled and run by a founder ceo. these are people who have been massive winners in this aim of thrones for the last -- game of thrones for the last 20 years. if you could tell me which ceos and successful founders would make the choice, it would be easy to figure out what would make that happen, but it is hard. emily: still with us, eric hippeau, whorer was ceo of the huffington post. a?l we see more and end
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-- m and a? eric: sure. bigger companies need to acquire technologies. they are not technology companies. for the native media technology companies to be part of a bigger group, get more resources, more options to distribute their content. it is a win-win for both. emily: do you see a big consolidation happening? eric: i don't know how much with consolidation, but if you look at the deceleration of this isers on cable, motivating a lot of people to say, wait, this uncoupling of the cable world is happening a lot faster than we expected. as we are cash-rich, we better prepare for the future. emily: eric hippeau, you are sticking with me. sprint and t-mobile in continued merger talks.
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deutsche telekom would have control in a combination of the company's. operators are discussing a stock for stock merger. they are still weeks away from an agreement budget telecom. be intsche telekom would control of both companies. both companies declined to comment. leaders tell tech giants that they will face fines if they are connected to terrorism? we will tell you the details, next. this is bloomberg. ♪
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emily: now to a story we continue to watch. the senate intelligence committee expects representatives of facebook to testify at a public hearing examining russia's use of social media to influence last year's presidential election. according to chairman richard burr, the panel hasn't determined all the issues that will be covered are invited company representatives.
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he said the hearing may include twitter and other social media companies. i want to get straight to our bloomberg tech reporter who covers social media, and still with us, eric hippeau of letter venture -- lerer hippeau ventures. what do we know? iforter: he says facebook, they don't have much to hide, how about doing it in the public? although a date has not been set, this is important to the senators. facebook has given more information about the ads related to the russians spending to robert mueller's commission. we are very much looking forward to anything we can here in the public eye. does this mean we could see mark zuckerberg or sheryl sandberg testifying before congress? reporter: that could be a possibility. we could also see perhaps facebook's head of security, anyone who might have more maybe thatformation,
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they are looking into it on a granular level, but nothing has been confirmed. emily: eric, what is your take? actually issue is bigger than just the russian hack. we are entering a new relationship with our big tech companies. for years, we left them alone, we wanted them to grow and innovate. it has dawned on us as a society and users and the government that they are really not transparent. they are not telling us what they are doing. they change their algorithms without any thought or expectations. they deal with our data in ways -- for instance, we just learned they allow people to racists.te this -- there is a notion that they are
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not responsible for utility, or how the platform is being used. as a society, we are now saying that can't be true. you have to take responsibility and take charge of what is going on on your platform. emily: another story that just crossed, european regulators will be telling tech companies they will be fined if they do not take down terrorist related content in a matter of hours. i wonder if that is possible, and what might the reaction be? reporter: i think that is absolutely going to be something the company will say is difficult. twitter today announced it had removed a few hundred thousand accounts from isis. emily: 300,000 accounts that they removed. that's a lot. reporter: that's a lot. 20% less than this time last year, but maybe that means they are doing something to address the issue. the problem the european regulators say is that they want companies to address this within
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two hours of when it goes up. that is very difficult. facebook has more than 2 billion users now. it is very difficult for them to police all that content. what do you and wants to do -- is figure outdo if there's a way to address the issue at scale without having to hire thousands of contractors to look through this, or is that an impossibility? emily: do you think it is fair for them to say, we can't do it, it's too big? -- it is notsures here the measures they have taken so far are not enough. there's no -- they are not doing enough. they are not reassuring us they are doing enough. emily: facebook did say they are hiring 3000 extra workers for live content. reporter: i see that 3000
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workers cited in every post from facebook in a problem they are trying to address. they are dealing with advertisement fraud, fake news, hateful content, violent video. is interesting how much they are able to cope with. emily: they have a lot on their plate, apparently. i know you will keep us posted. eric hippeau of lerer hippeau ventures, thank you for joining us. great to see you here in new york. thank you for watching. that's it for today, this edition of "bloomberg technology." wednesday, tune in for an unprecedented gathering of world leaders and international ceos at the global business for him. -- for him -- forum. we will have? my right here on "bloomberg technology." -- we will have jack ma right here on "bloomberg technology." ♪
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♪announcer from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." year's annual united nations general assembly will begin tuesday. this year's theme is focusing on people, striving for peace in a decent life for all on a sustainable planet. president will address the organization tuesday morning in a speech that will likely focus on north korea and iran. other key issues include climate change, peacekeeping, refugees, and global health.joining me is nicholas burns of harvard's kennedy school, and john mickle

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