families, the fate of george zimmerman is almost in the hands of a jury, a jury that heard passionate closing arguments from the prosecution. >> trayvon martin, he was staying, he was there legally. he hadn't broken in or trespassed. he was there legally. he bought skittles and water mel lean or iced tea or whatever. that was his crime. six women, five mothers will decide if zimmerman murdered trayvon martin or acted in self-defense.

the jury may consider the lesser charge of manslaughter. that's important for the state and they hammered at the notion the unarmed black teenager was the aggressor. >> why does this defendant get out of the car if he thinks that trayvon martin is a threat to him? why? why? because he's got a gun. he's got the equalizer. he's going to take care of it. he's a want to be cop. >> we begin with martin savidge outside the courthouse in sanford. martin, what a day. highly emotional that closing argument from the prosecutor. i found it gripping to watch, and i have to say, if i was a member of that jury, compelling. >> right. let me point out the closing statement differed from the opening statement. a physical blow when they delivered the string of curse words at the beginning but today the veteran prosecutor bernie de la rhonda says a teenager is dead. a teenager is dead because a man made and acted on assumptions, very strong, listen.

>> this defendant made the wrong assumption. he profiled him as a criminal. he assumed certain things, that trayvon martin was up to no good and that is what led to his death. >> and that's exactly the point, that this was a teenager who had >> this defendant made the wrong assumption. he profiled him as a criminal. he assumed certain things, that trayvon martin was up to no good and that is what led to his death. >> and that's exactly the point, that this was a teenager who had done nothing wrong, walking through a community he had every right to be in and went on from there. it was a strong beginning for the prosecution. >> i thought it was very effective, the way we waved together the statements and pointing out inconsistencies and suggesting that he had been almost reinverting parts of what

happened according to the kind of questions he had been asked. >> right, this was a luxury that was provided, actually, by the defendant himself because he made so many statements. he made a number on them to police. a lot of them were audio tapes. he made videotape reenactments and on television telling people what he did. they took those words in the trial and used it against him and bernie summed it up again today, only called those inconsistencies something else, lies and at times screamed about them to that jury, again, from today. >> he's got this gun in his holster, and you'll see in a few minutes, maybe more than a few minutes, one of the things that he does, he demonstrates to the police where he had the gun, and it wasn't right here in the front. it was towards the back, and it was hidden and he'll demonstrate to the police out there where it was. look at the gun. look at the size of this gun.

how did the victim see that in the darkness? he's saying that armpit. how does he get the gun out? armpits. how does he get the gun out? >> and it was a powerful moment, and he sort of backed that up by holding up the skittles. it's the candy that trayvon martin had. in one hand the gun that was used to kill the teen. in the other, he's holding the candy that the teen had gone to buy. the jury really was listening intently, piers. >> thank you very much indeed. tomorrow, quickly for us, sum up what you think will happen tomorrow. >> starting at 8:30 in the morning mark o'mara will come. he'll go for three hours. he does not write it down.

he has a few bullet points. he'll carefully watch that jury and if he thinks he's losing them, he'll shift, adjust, shorten if need be but he'll be different than the way you heard bernie de la rhonda. >> a co-counsel for the martin family. daryl welcome back. very welcoming to watch. a lot of inconsistencies highlighted by the prosecution against george zimmerman. how do you feel the day went? >> i think the day was strong and piers, i think you pointed out right the inconsistencies bernie used that to show that this jury should not believe anything that he says and at the end of the day, trayvon martin did nothing to cause his own death. >> one stage the prosecution asked for a lesser charge of manslaughter in the third degree

-- sorry, murder in the third degree to be introduced. what was the purpose of that because it got rejected? >> well, as i heard, they were attempting to use that with the possibility that there was a lesser part of that involved child abuse that would have in essence given them a third bite at the apple in essence. what they did do was good in a possibility of second degree murder and manslaughter, which will be charged tomorrow during the charge conference. >> in terms of all the emotions running high around this case, daryl, tell me about the family. you've been close to then as other members of the legal team. how are they baring up with it all? to us this is a great trial to follow and analyze and debate. to them, this is about the death of their son. >> well, it's very emotional, and, you know, we have to remember as a legal team and although somewhat involved in the media aspect not making any appearances right now, it's very personal to them and you may have seen they have with them sabrina's mom is here, one of tracy's good friends is here and

sabrina's bother is here and the fc of their foundation. very personal for them. they are very tired at this point. it's been a very, very long enduring four weeks for them, and so they are trying to do their best to make it to the end. as you know, there was a lot of emotional testimony this week, for example, to sit through the defense case and to hear people make statements that all of us knew were not true or lack good foundation was very tough for them. however, today they were very encouraged by what bernie de la rhonda did, a very powerful closing statement and anticipating equally good rebuttal closing by john guy tomorrow.

>> daryl parks, thank you very much indeed. >> thank you very having me. let's turn to jeffrey toobin and leslie crocker snider. we'll come to you both. jeffrey, where are we? >> i thought it was a good opening to the summation. putting in context not that this crime began the night trayvon martin died, but it began when george zimmerman became more and more obsessed with prowlers in the neighborhood and got more angry. i thought that was veryfective. where i thought it was less effective was the use in the second half of all the so-called inconsistencies. none of them jumped out to me as bald faced lies, and i thought building your entire summation or the entire second half around george zimmerman's own words rather than the testimony of others, i thought that was problematic, and i think that was a weakness in the summation. >> apparently, it is standard practice under florida law to bring in second-degree murder in cases like this, manslaughter as an option at this stage. some are spinning this as a

vehicle tomorrowry for the state. that wouldn't appear to be the case. it's almost a mandatory thing. do you think manslaughter is a more likely verdict here? >> definitely and in most states, any reasonable view that would support manslaughter would be given anyhow. i think my own view is that the state presented a weak case to murder and i think many people feel that way but a stronger case as to manslaughter. i also in terms of what you said, jeff, i agree, but it's hard to judge the prosecution's summation until we hear rebuttal after the defense because i think the defense will do a brilliant job of destroying a lot of points that have been made. >> do you think generally the defense has done a better job than the prosecution from a legal point of view? >> i think they have done a good job but i think the defense has done a great job and a non-sense job i think how i was when i was on the bench. >> would you be annoyed with don west -- >> it's so standard. i'm surprised -- >> jeffrey -- >> let me -- >> let's hear a bit of it so the viewers know what i'm talking about and i'll ask you. >> i've heard the argument from both sides. i am not giving that instruction. >> we submit that is an part of

the dvpts and not instructing this jury properly on the law -- >> i understand i've already ruled and you have -- you continually disagree with this court every time i make a ruling. i have provided you on three separate occasions with professional conduct in the courtroom and do not continue to argue with the court after i ruled. if i made a mistake in this case, you will appeal if there is a conviction, it will get appealed to a higher court and they can review it to determine

whether or not i made a mistake. >> what i love about her is that she doesn't really show completely how kpas per rated she is. judges get into it with lawyers, lawyers, for one thing i think he had an absolute right to be outraged when the defense asked for this third degree murder lesser out of the blue. it's just -- i mean, it was unfair, surprise. if i was there i would have ruled immediately no. but i think she was right to consider it and reject it. this was not a big controversy. >> remember how hard they are working and the hours. they are frustrated. they are tired. the stakes are enormous. this is life or death. >> people are watching around the world. >> yes. >> i want to play, jeffrey, one of the key moments today. about a teenager is dead. the clip that touched me the most. >> a teenager is dead. he is dead through no fault of his own. he is dead because another man

made assumptions, unfortunately, because his assumptions were wrong, trayvon benjamin martin no longer walks on this earth. >> now you see, that is all indisputably true, isn't it? >> no question. that part of the summation got us back to why this story became a national phenomenon is because how can we live in a country where a 17-year-old african american walks down a rainy street to buy some skittles, to buy an iced tea, comes home to watch the nba all-star game and gets killed in the process? how can we live in that country and that outrage was captured in that part of the summation. >> this is the tragedy of the case and we feel it. we have to come back to what is the prosecution's strategy in this case?

what is their theory? i did not hear in that summation what their theory was of exactly what happened. they asked a lot of questions and showed inconsistencies, maybe not such great inconsistencies but what does -- what are they telling the jury happened? where is -- this is what p handed on this terrible night. >> from your eyes, what is the crucial part of the narrative that could term whether george zimmerman is found guilty or not guilty? >> the crucial part is whether the state can actually disprove beyond a reasonable doubt that george zimmerman acted in self-defense -- >> hit his head. he believed he was in imminent danger of his life. >> that's absolutely right. the question is did he act in self-defense or hatred, malice -- >> i've been banging on about this night after night. if somebody on a call to the authorities called his mate, said he's a-holes, these f-ing

punks always getting away with it, he is profiling this kid as a potential criminal. >> not necessary -- >> what else is he doing? >> he is a neighborhood patrol officer. his job is to try to stop crime in this neighborhood, and there was nothing inheritly wrong with being a neighborhood patrol officer. they are people who care about their neighborhoods. as we heard at the end of this -- at the end of the defense case, there was a terrible crime right in this neighborhood that zimmerman was very concerned about the victims. so the fact that people are getting away with crime and he's upset about it, doesn't necessarily make him a racist, a thug or guilty of this murder. >> jeffrey toobin, a fascinating case and everyone is gripped by

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i had a dream a witness would be judged not on her personality but the content of her testimony. on the content of her testimony. >> an incredible moment from today's closing argument. bernie de la rhonda invoking the i have a dream speech. we have cheney mason who defended casey anthony. a dramatic day there.

how did you think when they finished, what bernie de la rhonda did? >> i didn't get to see all of it. he was pretty thorough and emotional and he has his strategy and plans. i don't know what they are necessarily, but they carry the burden and seems to me that he told the jury all the things that probably need to do to establish the elements that they need to prove, whether he did or not we'll find out in a couple days. >> invoking martin luther king there, a good strategy or not to bring race front and center into this trial when people have been perhaps tackfully trying to avoid that? >> well, you know, piers, everybody has tried to tiptoe around about this. this case has been about race from the beginning. i'm sorry some people don't like to hear that. it's evident that it has been and can't presume the evidence of it because they didn't have admissions to say it, but, you know, you get to be my age doing this long, you know what's real. you see it and commentators and journalists and various programs, african american >> well, you know, piers, everybody has tried to tiptoe around about this. this case has been about race from the beginning. i'm sorry some people don't like to hear that. it's evident that it has been and can't presume the evidence of it because they didn't have

admissions to say it, but, you know, you get to be my age doing this long, you know what's real. you see it and commentators and journalists and various programs, african american journalists see the evidence through their prism of believing the prosecution and most of the caucasian reporters see it a different way. race has been here from the beginning. it's going to be here through the verdict and after the verdict and it's unfortunate, but it's the reality. people need to face it and quit tiptoeing. >> one of the key points i thought in this summery was when he pointed out to everyone from george zimmerman's words, he was asked directly, why didn't he introduce himself as a neighborhood watch official? he said he was scared. seemed to be an unlikely situation that someone who is an experienced neighborhood watch official would be too scared when confronted by a 17-year-old boy to state that fact. >> well, particularly and you have been on it for sometime and have a semi automatic pistol on

your hip, i don't know how scared you would be. >> if he was punched first, as he claims, wouldn't you stand back and go wait, wo whoa i'm neighborhood watch. i don't understand why that would be the first thing you say. >> there you go with commonsense again. what's the matter with you? of course. that would have been the smart thing to do. we wouldn't be here and that kid wouldn't be dead. he could have just simply identified himself and told him, you know, i just want to know what you're doing and presumably he would have said well, i'm

here at my father's house. he's right over here, and, you know, good-bye. but it's unfortunate and none of us know what happened out there. clearly, you're right, had he done that i'm willing to submit that never would have been a further confrontation and maybe the sheriffs would have come there and verified who this kid was and everybody gone on about their business, watching the basketball game or whatever. >> what we now know cheney, since i last spoke to you, the criteria on the jury. they can go for second-degree murder, manslaughter or an acquittal. what do you think of that? is that a satisfactory choice? >> i think that is the choice and what you have to understand, there have been analysts that didn't understand flordia law and some from florida don't know it that we have lesser included offenses under florida law in different categories.

category one they are known as lesser included offenses. in a case of second-degree murder, there is one necessarily included category one and that's manslaughter. if either side asks for it, the judge has to give it. this is no alarming deal in court. this is nothing that required research or any surprise, trick or anything else. it was automatic. the lawyers knew it from the very first day they got in this case, or they told have and i'm sure they did. i know these lawyers. >> so some people that are making a big deal of a state victory because they got manslaughter introduced, that's non-sense really. it was always going to be on the table? >> it's not even non-sense. of course it's going to be on the table. it's automatic. all it takes is one side or the other to ask for the court to give an instruction on a category one lesser offense and it will be given. no reason to argue about it and discuss it. now you have different

categories two and three and what the state was trying to do today was, indeed, pretty bizarre to come in at the last minute and go to a non-category one lesser included offense of third degree murder. that was silly, and they wasted a lot of time and my friend don west nearly had a heart attack over there, but the judge did the right thing and it's over. >> let's listen to don west exploding over that particular moment. we got a clip of that. >> oh my god. just when i thought this case couldn't get any more bizarre, the state is seeking third degree murder based on child abuse? is the court going to give this any serious contention or consideration? because if so, we have a lot of talking to do. >> it's pretty rich of him to talk about a bizarre state of affairs, given he opened the proceedings with a knock knock joke. >> well, i'm sure he'll live

that down for a very long time. this case, as far as don, is going to be about that joke forever. but the bottom line is it was bizarre and for the state to come in at this -- on the morning of argument and try to change the case, i think was in fact disingenuous. it was bizarre and i have to say, i'm sorry, but it was unprofessional and legally uncompetent and the judge did the right thing. >> let's just cut to the quick now, cheney, how long do you think this jury will go out for, and what do you think their likely conclusion will be? i appreciate you don't know for sure but give me your reasoned experience opinion. >> my reason experience and my crystal ball i have, that i use, piers, this case obviously as you have analyzed can go anyway. it can be not guilty, murder two or manslaughter or hung jury. what i have seen, i have not seen it all. i have not seen the jury and if

i had i don't know if it would be better. i believe the state has failed to prove a case of second-degree murder, and i don't think that the jury will buy that. manslaughter is a different story. i have many years of experience, over 40 in trying homicide cases and there is no such thing as one free killing. juries, when they don't have a question as to how somebody died, when they died, who caused them to die, where they died, all the things that we had none of in casey and there is a body laying there, genuinely somebody has to price to pay for that. now, they will have a hard time dealing with the concept of reasonable doubt and they don't have to prove anything other than a reasonable doubt as to the self-defense. if i were to sit around with a glass of wine and talk with you and katy about that, i would say i think there's a good shot at a manslaughter conviction. >> yeah. >> i also don't think the jury will be out that long. >> interesting stuff. well, they can deliberate all weekend and get a result any moment after i think tomorrow afternoon. jay cheney mason, thank you. >> thank you. how long do you think it

will take for a verdict? here is deliberation length for other high-profile trials. doesn't that speak the truth? what a coincidence, the shot all of a sudden, the yelling stops.

>> attorney bernie de la rhonda,

the burden of proof is on the state but did he make the case? i want to bring in richard gabrielle that worked on the oj simpson and casey anthony trials, judge glenda hatchet, jane wintrop. richard gabrielle, if i may, what do you think will happen tomorrow? we'll have obviously the defense and prosecution will rebut. do you think the jury will be out by tomorrow afternoon? if so, how long do you think they will be out for? >> it's like reading tea leaves a bit but i guess we'll hear mark in the morning, get to the rebuttal probably in the morning, early afternoon, they will get charged. they probably won't get a little more than an how were or so in the afternoon and they will probably start fresh on saturday.

now, remember, they will be probably deliberating over the weekend and i think this jury will really take their time because they realize the world is watching. typically, as we've seen in other cases, a short verdict, typically is a good one for the defense the i think we're looking at early next week for -- before a verdict. >> marc lamont hill, i think it's a red herring, the screaming stopping. i would imagine the cries for help would stop whoever was crying at the moment the gun is fired, whether you think it was trayvon martin or george zimmerman. what i think could affect the deb lib -- deliberation time for a jury is whether they should

convict him or acquit him. the murder charge a lot think is probably no longer a likely option? >> absolutely. the murder charge is out of reach. a year ago i very publicly said second degree i didn't think was doable. but i think manslaughter is very much on the table although it was pro forma today. it was a major victory for a prosecution team in need of a major victory. i think they made the case. my concern is today when the prosecution made this compelling emotion-filled argument i think it may have hit the jurors in the heart but when they go back and deliberate, they will return to their heads and ask the question did the prosecution present a clear theory of what happened? i don't think they did. >> judge glenda, have they really established what they think happened as the prosecution? >> and i agree. i do not believe they have met the burden of proof and that really is very difficult because you have a defendant who has been very -- been very articulate about what happened and of course, trayvon is not here to tell his part of the story, but i do think that there is a very likely possibility that the jury may come back with

a conviction on the manslaughter charge, and so i think that the prosecution couldn't abandon second degree in their argument today and i think they were wise not to, and i think they had to be tenacious and passionate on that and i respect the fact they did that today. >> i want to play a clip where he was highlighting the inconsistencies in george zimmerman's testimony. >> he originally told the police over and over before and even after his interview he didn't know the name of the street, and then when they let him talk, he gives the name right there. i mean, it common sense. there is only three streets and he's lived there four years. again, why did he have to lie about that? because he does not want to admit that he was following this innocent young boy.

>> you see, jane, this is what i also come back to. i find it i'm plausible that a neighborhood watch official whose been on patrol operating there for several years and there are three street names, he has to get out of the car to check which one it is? how likely is that? >> well, i think that he was turned around. i think he wasn't exactly sure where he was at that moment because he was following trayvon. i mean, look, piers, the reality of the closing argument today was strictly appealing for sympathy and emotion, and bernie knows better than that because he knows in florida the judge tomorrow afternoon is going to read to this jury that they shall not base their verdict on sympathy or feeling sorry for anybody in that courtroom. they must base their verdict on the evidence that they hear in the courtroom and the exhibits that have been admitted and instructions by her honor and she will tell the jury failure to do so and base their verdict on the law and the evidence only will result in a mischarter of justice. mischarter of justice, they are not to base the verdict on sympathy and emotions and that's all the prosecution did today. >> they are still human beings. >> i disagree with that. i agree that's how they will be charged and that's what the

standerred should be, but i think he had to go there, and i don't think -- >> because he didn't have anything else. >> well, no, that's not necessarily true. you talked about the language on the tape of the comments that he made. i mean, there really is -- and i don't know that he'll be able to meet that threshold. but there is -- there is evidence that there may be possibilities of malice and intent and just the whole pattern of what happened, and so i think that he did exactly what he had to do today, and so i disagree with that. >> marc lamont hill, there is one crucial bit of incontrovertible evidence and that is trayvon martin was shot dead and a completely unharmed

17-year-old boy. that in itself, if i'm a juror has got to be hugely significant regard less of anything else. >> that's absolutely true. the reality is they are not allowed to make a decision purely based on emotion. they have to base it on the evidence, but we're human beings and not i'm pufg use to this. your emotions and heart strings are being tugged at in a way that might affect the decisions making. do i trust george zimmerman was doing what he said? that emotional tug at our hearts may play into that. as judge hatchet said, only two people know what happened, zimmerman and trayvon -- >> you don't have to use george zimmerman's words. you can ignore his statements -- >> oh. >> wait, wait, wait, take a short break. we have to take a short break. we'll be back with you -- you're all staying. keep the powder dry until we come back after this break. i'll ask one question, what does mark o'mara have to do in his

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why? why? because he's got a gun. he's got the equalizer. he's going to take care of it. he's a want to be cop. >> i suppose the moment the state attorney bernie de la rionda. i'm back with my all-star panel. if you have a tweet, tweet me at piers morgan and we may read out the tweet. this is from isabella, a famous philippine actress entertainer. she says following the george zimmerman trial on the piers morgan show, i'm so confused. the arguments are all very compelling. jane, that really cuts to this trial, doesn't it? >> it does. >> the arguments are very compelling on both sides, very, very difficult i think for these jurors and i hope they take time to really think this through because it's an important decision. >> it is important, and the issue that has to be brought home, piers, two things, one, not guilty does not mean he was proven innocent. not guilty means the state has not proven it's case beyond a

reasonable doubt, our standard in this country and it's important, it does not mean innocent. number two, the prosecutor today with his theater, he ended with the closing argument talking about there was no dna and he of all people knows, dna, trayvon martin has a closed fist and punching george zimmerman, which is the nose being broken, as was indicated on the record by eye witnesses, not george zimmerman's self-serving statements by witnesses and there is no -- with a closed fist there is no way to get dna under the fingers. bernie knows better and that's the best argument at the end -- >> he also talked about covering his mouth and that's george's testimony that his mouth was covered, and that trayvon had covered his mouth. so the question is why don't we see some dna on the sleeve, why don't we see it on his hand? i do -- >> dr. di maio answered that. dr. di maio not rebutted

answered that question clearly. remember he said because trayvon martin at that time was on top and took his jacket. that's why the gunshot was two to four inches away, that's why -- >> this is the problem, piers -- >> this is -- >> this is exactly the problem. everything is compelling. the problem is when everything is compelling, that's reasonable doubt. >> it is. >> if the prosecution left a closing and we're still saying, well, the defense has a compelling argument and haven't spoken yet, that's not a good sign for the prosecution. >> let me bring in richard because you're a jury expert. this jury, they have the weight of the world shoulders watching here. it's not just any old trial. a trial leading the news bulletins in america now, network and cable. this is the biggest deal they will ever have to face. what are they thinking tonight?

what do you think their thinking will be over the next couple days? the truth is that verdicts are rarely just about evidence or the law. they are about human judgment, and both of the attorneys have to sit there and say, here is my juror. i've got a nursing assistant with eight kids. i've got a safety officer. i've got a woman whose husband is a space attorney who used to carry a conceal and carry weapon but let it lapse. these are the people that we have to talk to. this is the judgement that has to be made. it's what they think of it. it's likely that their judgement is made and their views may have even been formed before this case started. >> and let me ask you richard,

let me ask you this, in your experience of juries, are women likely to be tougher in a situation like this than men or not as tough as men? >> oh, it depends on the woman and it depends on the situation. the truth is everybody kept saying, well, here is the women and they listen sympathetic to trayvon martin. it depends on their life experiences. jury selection, you got a woman reporting vandals, and another woman with eight kids and who a woman who is involved in pet rescue and loves saving animals. those are the types of personality issues that drive this decision and not necessarily their gender. the real question is how are these jurors going to get along? because it depends largely this verdict depends on whether this is a consensus jury, they will get along and come to an agreement on murder, manslaughter or acquittal or split because they don't agree and will end up on hung jury. >> i'll make you-all my jury. i want a one-word answer, not the speech. i want to know whether you think he should be acquitted, found guilty of manslaughter, which the answer is manslaughter or second-degree murder. let me start with you marc lamont hill. >> this is based on the presentation of the prosecution? >> uh-huh, yeah. >> not guilty. >> not guilty.

okay. richard gabrielle. >> i think he did it. i think he did it -- >> no, no, that's a very honest answer. richard gabrielle. >> i'm just thinking about the jury. i'm thinking they are heading toward manslaughter because they don't have the motive or they have enough motive to give them their state of mind but they don't have enough to give them that sort of depraved mind set for second degree. >> judge glenda? >> i think manslaughter given the totality of the situation, i think manslaughter. >> jane? >> not guilty. >> wow, two not guilties, two manslaughters. >> we're hung, piers. >> it's a hung jury and you know what, i think that sums up how

america is feeling now. it's a complicated case and could go any of three ways. thank you-all very much indeed for joining me. shock waves reached across neutrogena® cosmetics.

shock waves reached across the country and indeed, around the world. the family of oscar grant killed in california is offering their support to the martin family. more on that story coming up next. >> that pain rest nated so much we knew as a family we needed to support this family because of what happened to oscar.

three years before the death of trayvon martin, police in oakland, california shot and killed an unarmed black man named oscar grant. his death was captured by witnesses on their cell phone cameras. when that case went to trial, the officer was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and served just 11 months. ryan, thanks for coming in. this film has had a lot of buzz. very powerful, very timely. what are the parallels with the story that you tell in your film? >> there are a few parallels. the biggest differences is trayvon was 17, not even old enough to vote yet. oscar was killed by law enforcement. trayvon was killed by an ordinary citizen. the biggest difference was somebody wasn't there to record what happened. with oscar, several bay area citizens were on the platform that recorded it with their cell phones. >> the reason the policeman got a limited sentence was because he argued that he had been going for his taser gun, not his real firearm, and made a mistake and that was accepted. >> that was the defense's argument in that trial. >> did you believe it? >> it's not my opinion to make. i think -- i was much more concerned with the fact that a young man lost his life unnecessarily.

it happened too off. young black males are killed through police violence, gun violence is the leading cause of death among young african-american males in this country. >> it's very interesting you would say that. people have said why so much attention to the zimmerman case when in chicago, over the recent holiday four-day weekend, you had nearly 70 people shot, many of them killed. a lot of it black on black youth shooting. >> absolutely. >> why is there not more being made of that? why is it happening in chicago and why are we not making more of it? >> i think black on black crime,

just gun violence in general is the leading cause of death for young african-american males. you leave out of your house knowing the biggest chance to die is by gun violence. >> why? >> there's a lot of factors that play into it. in situations of urban violence, self-hate has been perpetuated in this country and is part of our culture in many ways. in many ways, a lot of urban conflicts come from dehumanizing factors. i think that happens in situations like with oscar grant, with the police looking at him. >> there's an irrational fear and suspicion perhaps. >> i think that definitely exists. and i think often times people look at african-american males and how they're portrayed in the media and it's shortsighted. they look at somebody that is 17 and black and they see them as a

thug or a criminal. they don't see them as somebody that has family and a life that matters. >> let's take a look at a clip from the movie. >> i hear you. >> come on, man. are you arresting us? >> what is the message you want people to take away from this film? it's very raw and very powerful. >> for me the film was all about humanity. when i saw the footage, oscar was 2 2 at the time, i was 22 myself in the bay area. i thought what if it happened to me? what if i didn't unnecessarily make it home to the people i love the most? i wanted to make the film about the relationships he had with the people who knew him the best. often times cases get

politicized and his life gets pushed and pulled for political reasons. some people want to make him out to be a saint, some people want to make them out to be a thug. these people are human and they exist in gray areas. the people that love them the most are the most affected. so this message was about that humanity. the fact that oscar was a human being, had people that he loved. >> congratulations on a terrific film. it opens limited tomorrow and across the country on july 26. >> thank you so much. >> we'll be right back. on car i. mmmhmmm...everybody knows that. well, did you know that old macdonald was a really bad speller? your word is...cow. cow. cow. c...o...w...

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the defense and george zimmerman's fate is in the hands of the jury. the very latest where you tell me what you have to say about this explosive case that's tomorrow night. that's all for tonight. anderson cooper starts right now. the prosecution makes its closing pitch. good evening again. welcome to another "360" special report "self-defense or murder, the george zimmerman trial." today, the lead prosecutor tried to bring home his case. the state of florida's case to the jury, that a wannabe cop fed up with crime in his neighborhood prejudged a teenager, pursued him and shot him dead. tonight, we'll look at the merits of that case and today's closing arguments. we'll focus on closing arguments from the defense and the impact of the judge's ruling allowing jurors to consider the lesser charge than just second degree murder, the charge of manslaughter. with me, the best legal panel around. first, the highlights from closing day from the prosecution. here's our martin savidge.