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alleged plot to bomb the capital and o ho manhio man has been arrested 20-year-old christopher cornell from columbus ohio. ha is it for us tonight. "ac360" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com a man who was inspired allegedly by isis has been planning an attack on the capital. his name is christopher lee cornell, and he was arr rested today by the fbi in an undercover operation. this picture was taken by someone inside of a store of the arrest of christopher cornell. pamela brown is joining us, and
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i will speak to the father of mr. cornell in a moment but what does the fbi say he was planning? >> well, the fbi says that christopher cornell from cincinnati was in the final stages of carrying out the final stages of detonating a bomb at the u.s. capitol building and then detonating a bomb on the u.s. lawmaker ss as they ran out. the fbi has been keeping an eye on him after several months of a confidential informant kept them informed about statements that he put on social media about gee mad that he wanted to launch. at one point he told the informant in the criminal complaint that he wanted to murder u.s. officials this in honor of isis anderson. >> and at what point did they believe he posted a credible threat? >> we know that the authorities started to work with this undercover informant in the fall but according to the criminal complaint cornell had
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communicated with the informant the plan that he wanted to wage jihad under the orders and plan at a tack. when look at the social media postings the fbi caught their attention and then they started to follow him. apparently from there, the fbi said that he took concrete steps towards the goal, and he studied making pipe bombs and studying the buildings in d.c. and today, buying two semiautomatic weapons and then shortly afterwards the fbi arrested him in connection with allegedly trying to kill a u.s. lawmaker. but it sis important to note that he did not pose any threat to the public in this investigation. >> and his father says that they believe that he was setup by the fbi to some dee gree. do we know anything about the informant that connected the fbi with this young man? >> yes, we do. according to the criminal
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complaint, the fbi had been working with this informant, and apparently the informant had troubles with the law and they worked out a deal and said, you know, tell us what you know about others that you may vhave been conspiring with and in communication with and so in order to perhaps help himself out, the informant alerted the fbi to christopher cornell who he had been in communication with since this past summer and told them about some of the communications he had had with cornell, and so therefore cornell was on the radar and the fbi opened up the investigation. anderson. >> thank you, pamela brown, with the late-breaking details. join g joining me on the phone is john cornell, the father of the man who was arrested just today. mr. cornell, thank you very much for talking to us. what was your immediate reaction when the fbi arrested your son?
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said they asked usk and they never really asked us, but they said they had a search warrant, and they never gave us a whole lot of information. they wouldn't tell us, and they said that we will tell us what it is about after we conduct the search. they wanted to take me his mother and brother, because we all e three live in the same house, and they wanted to take us in for questioning which they did. they brought us about an hour and a half later, and they were still conducting the the search but when we were up there doing the interview with the fbi agents at the local police station, i asked, you know they asked me a bunch of questions, and i said well, i have a couple of questions for you.
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where is my son? what is he being charged with? and they said they were not only -- not only gated ed obligated because he was an adult or the people handling the search warrant would -- >> well mr. cornell -- >> they would not tell us anything. >> when you learned the details of what your son was alleged to have been planning, did you have any idea or make any sense to you? >> no sense whatsoever. you know, he's lived at home his whole life. he's never -- well, he's been out of the state of ohio a couple of times when he was younger when he wrestled. he was a high school and middle school wrestler. we went to wrestling tournaments, the only time he's been out of the state of ohio. he lived at home. very seldom ever left the house. he's a big mama's boy, you know?
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best friend is a kitty cat named mikey. i can't believe, this is just like total shock. i think i've had time to process some of this, and i don't know the information that i got was supposedly made some statements on twitter, on social network, to someone and this person had some criminal charges and added to those charges or had those charges lessened, turn chris over to the fbi. chris may have said things out of anger or -- there's just no way he could have carried out any kind of terrorist plot. no way. >> you don't believe he was capable? >> he didn't even own a car. >> i know you watch a lot of news and obviously he would come in the room when you were watching news, there would be reports about isis and other terrorist groups. had he ever said anything to you about isis? i know he'd relatively recently converted to islam. did he talk much about it?
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>> no. no. i asked him, you know, i asked him, you know what i mean? because i was concerned because of all the stuff that i see on the news. and he explained to me and said, no. that's not, that wasn't part of his -- he said he wasn't part of a religion. islam to him was a way of life. and just had to let people be, like christian people want to believe in christian ways, i guess you just got to let people be who they are and be who they want to be. >> what do you think? law enforcement is not telling the truth, do you think they led him out and do you think possibly the son really was plotting something? >> i tell you what. if he posted some things, he may have said some things out of anger, if he posted stuff on social network, it's there. they have access to that. but what i'm saying is this. an informant turns this stuff over to the fbi months ago,
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right? and introduced him to another friend, right? which happened to be an fbi agent, right? and i think chris has only left the house to go anywhere i think maybe two or three times in months. in months. he was supposedly going to a mosque where in actuality, what i believe was it was an fbi agent picking him up, taking him maybe to an apartment and i think chris was coerced into a lot of this. i mean, i know he's my son, but i would be the first -- i wish i could go over there and fight isis, but i'm an old man. you know what i mean? >> mr. cornell, i know this has got to be stunning for you. i know you thought he was sleeping at home last night. he left a note saying he was
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leaving, that was the first word you'd gotten of that. i appreciate you talking to us and we continue to follow this. we'd like to talk to you again. >> one other thing, anderson? >> yes, sir. >> he had money saved up. he had a seasonal job. worked across the street. only $1200 saved up to his name. and supposedly purchased today over $1700. i don't know where he got the other $500. i think it was supplied by the fbi. >> mr. cornell, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> okay, thank you, anderson. i want to talk about this. i want to bring in former cia counter terrorism official philip mudd and he is saying, you hear the dad there saying that he's understandably stunned by this. he believes maybe the fbi gave money to his son, maybe the fbi led him down a path he might not otherwise have been on. what do you make of those comments? >> there are inflection points
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in these cases that are common. i don't have the facts but i've seen so many cases, i can give you predictions. somebody, an informant said i'm talking to somebody who's angry. son the father said the son talked about being angry. are recent conversion. kid wants to do something about it. he doesn't have money. say we won't give you the money. at that point, you don't control the operation. that kid might say, hey, i'll go someplace else. all of the sudden, the operation is difficult to understand. maybe he goes someplace you don't know about. so you step along the close this out through the course of the months. this is the informant. you sure you want to do this? you sure you want to do this? a dozen times the kid say ss yes. what do you do in this situation? i feel for the dad but when the police walk through the door, let it go, move it along so you own it or step away or risk the kid does do something you don't know about a year down the road.
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>> some people look and say, well, it's the fbi leading somebody on to do something they otherwise wouldn't. you're flipping it around and saying if the fbi doesn't kind of walk him down the path with him, he may go down some other path with some other people they have no access to or control over. >> sure. you want to own the case. i think there is a broader cultural issue here, anderson. and that is, this kid, i'm guessing and we've seen cases like this, you remember in ottawa the attack on parliament, we saw the ax attack in new york city a few weeks ago against a policeman. we talk about the terrorism or radical islamic angle, the emotional or psychological state of the spern not talked about. my guess is this individual, remember, this is a classic lone wolf. unlike the cell in paris, but my guess in a lot of cases i saw maybe emotional or psychological issues. when you go in front of a jury of his peers, the first thing the defense attorney is going to say is this is entrapment. case after case after case in
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the front end, saying it's entrapment. the jury will look at the tape for example, and i'm guessing that the informant is going to to be taped up, and the kid is going to say, i want to go do it, i want a gun, something like that. >> in your experiences though, watching this stuff, following the cia and fbi, you've seen people, some people who are ideologically motivated, some people do have connections to groups and some people have emotional problems, whether it's aspirational or not, claim some kind of connection. >> that's right. i think you can make a quick distinction when you see a case. as soon as it expands to two or more people, it is a quick guess the emotional or psychological
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state is more stable. they're involved in a group of people collectively making a decision. when you see these lone wolves, one of the first questions i have, because people in this country want to vilify islam. i get attacks probably for this interview, anderson. the first question i have isn't whether he's a true member of isis. he's certainly a not, whether he's a sympathizer of isis, but what's the psychological evaluation once he gets to the federal prison? >> thank you for your expertise. as i said, there are a number of developments today both here in the united states and overseas as well. week after the deadly terror attacks in paris, a disturbing report that the gunman had rocket propelled grenades or at least one rpg and planned to use them to take down a grenade. -- take down a plane. that, basically being a speculation on the part of the french police according to this reporter. plus, the latest on the search for a reported fourth suspect right now.
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that according to a french suspected in the death of a french policewoman. chief national correspondent jim sciutto joining me live now from paris. what do we know about this fourth suspect? >> reporter: anderson, two clues leading investigators to this fourth suspect. one, a set of keys found. registered to a motorbike that belonged to this man. two ammunition used in the kosher attack and same ammunition found used in the shooting of a jogger the day before that attack which traced possibly to this man.
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the trouble is, french authorities believer this man already left the country possibly to syria. >> and the jogger identified the shooter, at least gave a possible identification, very different than the appearance of ahmed coulibaly. that's why they believe it's a different person. right? >> reporter: that's right. amedy coulibaly, and this man described as caucasian. we had another clue it was a different suspect. >> should point out, not african-american, of african descent. they took responsibility for the attack on "charlie hebdo." there's a video. we are not go g toing to play the video, because i don't believe they should get that kind of direct media access but essentially, what are they saying? >> they are saying it is their attack. they are saying that it is financed directed and ordered and even said that it is their involvement from ap war al awlaki the american cleric who was killed in the air strike in 2011, but he had some role in
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the before of the early stages of planning this attack with the kouachi brothers and i have spoken to the u.s. officials who have said uniformly it is not clear that the aqap have executed or control or command of this attack and short of providing training or funding, but it is clear that they went to yemen to get arms training, but it is possible that they then made decision on the target time place, but it is early in the investigation, and it is not plished definitively yet. >> the whole timing of the trip to yemen is 2011 and big delay of that trip and the attack. thank you, jim sciutto. there have been reports that the brothers in the paris attacks had at least one rocket propelled grenade launcher. tonight, breaking news about what they may have been planning to do with them. this is a picture from surveillance video at the gas station where they stole food and gas while they were on the
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run after the attack from the "charlie hebdo" offices. you can see what looks like an rpg slung over the shoulder of one of the terrorists. we got word the brothers may have planned to use the rpg or maybe more rpgs to take out an aircraft. that comes from the channel tf-1. their reporter joins me tonight. so geeam, this new information about the rocket launcher, what are you learning? this has been a question all along. we knew that they had, there were early reports they had a rocket propelled, grenade launcher and there's a lot of questions about why they didn't use it at some point during their various attacks. >> reporter: yeah, the investigators were very puzzled as to why they hadn't used it against the police early on. we know that they got detected, located because of that rpg in the back of their car. several investigators that we talked to now believe that the
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aim of the kouachi brothers was to go to the main airport at outside of paris. they got caught they got killed the few kilometers away from the airport and coming back from the northwest to paris, and several investigators believe they wanted to the aim at an air looinline er about to land or just taken off, and there a portion of are where they died and right next to where you can see they are very close to the airliner taking off or land inging depending upon the wind and the pass in the airport. so they believe it is the aim to use the rpg at the airport at the against the airliner. >> and cnn has not been able to independently confirm it, but the printingshop is very close
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to airport and they actually closed down one or two runways, and maybe that is why they closed down the runways out of an abundance of caution, and do we know where the other weapons that were involved came from? we have seen some belgian media reports. what are you hearing? >> reporter: there's several reports out of belgium. a lot of weapons, not just rpgs, in belgium funded through the northwest border of france. the french investigator investigating this claim, that comes from the belgian police. what needs to be mentioned also, there has been nothing said by the kouachi brothers or written by the kouachi brothers proof that their aim was charles de
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gaulle gaulle, and that leads some investigators to believe that they wanted to aim at the airport. >> we appreciate your reporting. thank you very much. terrorist analyst. joining is retired colonel jim reece and also retired analyst paul krukcruikshank. as that report was being aired, you were casting doubt that rpg could have been used to bring down a plane. explain why. >> anderson, that to me from my analysis looking at the picture, that's rpg 18 to 22 degrees. that has about a 300 meter max effective range. go a little bit farther just flying but you'd literally have to be on the leading or trailing edge of the airfield to take that down at charles de gaulle. held kopticopter, different story, but i would not use it for a commercial aircraft. >> the reporting was based on
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what he said he's hearing from french investigators. basically coming up with different theory but the question remains, if they had an rpg, why not just use it? whether at "charlie hebdo" headquarters when the police vehicle was blocking them in the road or other times with the printing shop? >> well they had great understanding of what it is for, an tie -- anti-armor weapon. they knew eventually that the gign or the raid unit down south would show up with armored vehicles. so it would be a great opportunity to shoot an armored vehicle and destroy an armored vehicle. they penetrate armored vehicles and destroy them. >> paul, what do you make of the timeline of all of this? in fact, anwar al-awlaki came up with this idea and gave up an extensive sermon about the horror of these cartoons and
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target the people drawing them but if the guys with were there in 2011, there's a huge gap between 2011 and the time this took place, does it make sense it would take that long if not operationally directed by aqap? >> yeah, that gap is pretty unusual. in most cases with al qaeda plots, they have put the operation into 6 to 12 months with the final train ging. we saw that with the london 7/7 bombers in 1995 and also the new york bomb in 2009 and also the possibility is that the brothers were sort of waiting out the french surveillance. when the brothers got back in 2011, the french watched them closely and eventually lifted the surveillance in june of 2014. so one possibility is the brothers sensed they were being watched and they waited and waited and waited. >> we know the younger brother, said kouachi, got a job at a fish supermarket and never talked about politics. nothing of religion, bu tt the
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price of fish, a according to one person. >> yes, and al awlaki said to camouflage their islamic radicalism. that's right. and what he said was he was a double agent inside aqap, he knew al-awlaki said don't show signs of radicalism. go back to everyday life so they stop watching you. >> the cartoons targeted, it's hard to believe the only guys he may have had contact with and whether it's suggested or directed the idea of going after these cartoonists. >> well, you know, anderson, terror cells have a methodology and doctrine. and that is all of the way back to the black september back to the olympics. as you know, terror cells are based on intent.
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anwar said this is my intent, go kill these people. he tells the cell and they get funded and they do it. he turns it to the next cell and says the same thing. several balls up in the air and hopefully one comes down. that's how these cells work in the terrorism world. >> it's fascinating. thank you colonel reece for being with us and paul cruikshank as well. just ahead, i talk to former mayor rudy giuliani, the mayor when terror struck on 9/11. kouachi are far from the first brothers to carry out a terror attack. we look at other siblings who wage jihad together. data stash. only from t-mobile.
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it was reported the top of the program. fbi arrested a young ohio man allegedly plotting to attack the u.s. capitol. christopher lee cornell is his name. he was inspired by isis. i talked to his dad at the top of the broadcast who believes the fbi may have led his son down this path. the arrest comes as security checks at u.s. airports are being increased.
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department of homeland security is worried about bomb construction released by al qaeda in yemen. the wake of the terror attacks, a reminder that cities vulnerable everywhere. joining me now, somebody who knows this better than ever, rudy giuliani, who ran the city of new york during the attacks. he runs a security firm. attacking politicians, setting up bombs and also with rifles, his dad says he believes the fbi led him down the path. from a law enforcement standpoint? i mean, you are a former prosecutor. >> the fbi has no other choice. the fbi was criticized in the boston marathon for not turning over enough police over the brothers who were going to attack. so you have to follow these things through. how can you lead somebody into talking about attacking the capitol? if somebody is talking about attacking the capitol, the fbi has to take that seriously. if they didn't and this man attacked the capitol, can you imagine the criticism of the fbi
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tonight? the criticism of the agents of the fbi if they didn't follow this through? so you've got to be responsible for the words that you utter. >> do you believe that there is a kind of a new wave, a new style of attacks? since mumbai, we've seen these kind of small scale attacks where even a handful of people we saw under the indian embassy in kabul, afghanistan. we've seen various locations in pakistan and certainly now in paris. >> this is a frustration i have. it goes way back. this isn't as new as we think it is. bin laden wrote about this in 1998 and 1999. how to energize these individual people or little groups of people. we saw it in 2005 in london. that was only a four-person attack from people who, some whom were english citizens. the sort of lone wolf, smaller attack has been going on for
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quite some time and i think it's a very, very big danger and i think it's much more difficult for law enforcement to follow because they're spread out. there's so many more of them. they don't use international communications as much. so we're not picking it up in the satellites. this is a very, very big challenge and it puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the local police. >> if somebody doesn't have a social media profile and hasn't been spouting off on twitter -- >> very hard to find. this is why i've preached for seven or eight years, every time i speak to the fbi, you've got to use your local police of which we have 800,000 in america. they have to be your eyes and ears of what commissioner bratton calls the precursers of terrorism. what are you spotting? treat this almost in the way we treat street crime.
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>> one of the things, i talked to a lot of police and intelligence officials last week in france when i was there. and universally, said traditionally french authorities have done a very good job of infiltrating and giving us a lot of information. that's the thing. u.s. gets a lot of intelligence from british authorities beyond, you know, satellite data and communications data which the u.s. gets, they rely on ground data from the intelligent agencies. the french seem overwhelmed with the sheer volume of people who are potential suspects. that's incredibly worrying because of implications for u.s. intelligence officials as well. >> maybe they underestimated. with all of the intelligence they had, maybe it was too much for them. also, maybe they were not putting enough resources into it. i mean, shouldn't they have continued to follow these guys since they came back from yemen? why didn't they do it? they didn't do it honestly because they have to make resource decisions.
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>> right. i've heard it takes 25 to 30 people to track one person. >> same thing happened here. >> in 24 hours. >> same thing that happened in boston. lack of resources. a maybe we need to put more money, more resources and more people into this because we are in a very complex fight here. i relate this and everybody relates things to their own history, to my dealing with the mafia way back in the '50s and the '60s and the '70s that they denied the mafia existed. >> we should point out you were prosecuting the mafia. >> islamic extremist terrorists. it was a big threat only until director webster put three, four, five, six hundred. fbi agents and the new york police department put 3,000 police officers into that we
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got it done. i think that we need to recognize this, and i'm a big kretic of the president not using the the words islamic extremist terrorism, and he's the only word leader who doesn't be by the way. >> it's also interesting when you see when 9/11 happened, the number of arabic speakers in the fbi was minuscule compared to what it is now. there has been the education and there has been -- >> there is considerably more knowledge. the resources are there. they need more people. they need more money and we should never back off following a possible terrorist because we don't have the resources. that shouldn't happen again because too many lives are at risk. >> mayor giuliani. appreciate you being with us. ahead, blood brothers in crime. said and cherif kouachi. the two terrorists who attacked "charlie hebdo," and the latest partners the in crime, what drives so many of these jihadist
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you've heard the names. said and cherif kouachi. the mass gunmen caught on video moments after killing 12 people grown up virtually alone in paris. authorities are trying to untangle all of threads of the attack they calmly carried out one week ago today. although they were brothers h many people felt a sixth sense of deja vu. the kouachis are not the first siblings to wage jihad. it's a pattern we've seen many times before. jason carroll reports. >> reporter: said and cherif kouachi, partners in crime. brothers who shared not only blood but an extremist ideology but far from the only set of brothers tied to terrorism. boston bombing suspects dzhokhar tsarnaev and tamerlan. they are accused of killing three people and wounding more than 200 at the pressure cooker bomb s bombs in april of 2013.
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but before boston, the brother's deadly plot, there was already a long list of sibling terrorists. six of the 19 hijackers responsible for the attacks on 9/11 were actually brothers who worked in teams. alhazmi brothers sat together on american airlines flight 77 before hijacking and crashing it into the pentagon. a year later in 2002 in bali three bombers were brothers and more than 200 people killed as a result. 2007 a failed plot. the plan this time was to attack soldiers in fort dix in new jersey and three of the would-be terrorists were also brothers. why so many sibling connections? dr. harley stock is a forensic psychologist. >> being a lone wolf self-radicalizing jihadist is hard to do. it's good to have help. the other issue, who do you trust? having a family member you can trust is helpful. >> reporter: two years ago in
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south florida, two men who happened to be brothers were charged with conspireing to use a weapon of massive destruction in the united states. both men pleaded not guilty and those brothers are shariah and akazi akazi. a man who would only identify himself as the allegations are not true. >> i know my brothers are innocent. they never did anything wrong. >> reporter: counterterrorism experts say oftentimes even in the face of overwhelming evidence stick together and say the tight family bond can be tough for investigators to break. >> if you have a small group among brothers, cousins, very close friends, it makes it that much more difficult for elite to get out or to penetrate that cell with an outsider. >> reporter: experts say the tightest bond of all may ultimately be beyond blood. it is the bond of extremist ideology, the same one that drove the kouachi brothers, the same that is likely to lead more to murder. jason carroll, cnn, miami.
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>> joining me is former islamic extremist, maajid nawaz. he is now an anti-extremist expert. maajid, you became radicalized when you were 16 years old after your own brother followed -- joined. and basically followed his example. can you explain how that happened? >> yes, i mean, there was a year different between us and the ties between brothers, particularly from a cultural background, muslim or a middle eastern or muslim background, the ties between family are emphasized by the religion itself and the culture and on top of that, facing the violent racism i did on the streets of essex in the united kingdom. my brother was sort of a protector for me when he joined the middle eastern organization a year later, i followed him
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into the movement. >> is there often, now in the last couple of days, we had the case of several parents who said, look, i had no idea this was going on in my house and no idea my child was interested in this stuff. was perhaps even plotting something. do you hear that a lot from parents and how accurate do you think that is? >> it's very accurate for the parents to say they had little idea. my own parents were locked out by us. we didn't discuss matters with our parents at all. the type of islam that extremists come to practice is very different. the parents have taught them. it's a second generational thing with the rise of islamic extremism. it's less realistic for siblings to claim they had no idea. that's why it is very, very important that though brothers can lead those to extremism, it is important to pull them out of the extremism, and they can be very effective to making sure that their siblings don't join such organizations as well.
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>> you were saying the form of islam practiced by the parents is often very, very different and not radical in the way their children and that's why it's a second generation thing. in some cases, is the children's form of islam, is it a response to the parents? >> well, it's a response to, of course, the parents, a form of rebellion. it's response to an identity crisis that's emerged. europe as a whole is facing, an acute identity crisis with what it means to be european today but also akctually a form of empowerment in that. people who are born and raised in the west adopt empowering narratives. i found hip-hop, a counterculture and it's that form of articulation through using western discourse and in fact, islam, if you trace how it emerged, it did emerge, it was heavily influenced by post-world war i fascist ideology. the entire western framework is
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articulated and islam is a product of that. >> i think when people hear the parents say i had no idea, they're skeptical about that but you've seen repeated cases of it and in your own case, you would say that kids hide it from their parents. >> yes. i would be more skeptical about siblings or spouses but i am less skeptical about parents. every case is a case by case basis. on top of that, in the case of siblings and spouses, they may genuinely not know. i wouldn't want to point a magnifying glass on anyone and say they're lying but it's important to know, second generation young european and western muslims generally who join islamist groups tend to be quite angry as well at their own parents' version of islam. it's a quite typical thing we see. >> maajid, as always, we like having you on. thank you. fascinating, and again, the book
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welcome back. we are have learned it was 911 calls that alerted police to death threats against house speaker boehner. the suspect is a former bartender at a country club in ohio where boehner is a member. they've known each other apparently for years. the threats this manmade are not only bizarre but to the capitol building. here's dana bash. >> reporter: this is real charging michael robert hoyt with threatening to murder john boehner. the disturbed hoyt telling police he was jesus christ, even blaming boehner for ebola. that was boehner's response when asked about the threat known about since last fall. boehner and wife knew bartender for years and had debby boehner's e-mail address and sent this chilling note after fired from the country club.
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said, if i had any intention of hurting mr. boehner, i could have poisoned his wine at weathering ton weatherington many times. what's this about? rambling answer, mrs. boehner, i was fired. i could not e-mail mr. boehner directly because of the zip code block on e-mail. the next day, placed an unintelligible call to 9-1-1. this is mike, i messed up. >> police went to home, hoyt said he heard the devil's voice telling him john boehner was evil and planned to shoot boehner with automatic weapon. >> it's a sad situation. i think this individual needs a great deal of help but the speaker needs to be protected. >> reporter: after september 11, security was stepped up. this armored vehicle known as bear cat sits outside, but when members are home, they are on their own as highlighted in a
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near deadly display on the assassination attempt on gabby giffords. but security does protect leaders and the house speaker and second in line to the presidency and has more protection than any other. he does not make a move inside the capitol or out without security detail but nothing is absolute. >> there may be security next to them but they're a patron like any other customer. >> reporter: a bullet hole found in eric cantor's office. how common is this? >> more common than anyone would expect. they get angry letters from independents, republicans, democrats. once in a while, someone says they shouldn't do and every time, the capitol police investigates it.
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stories we're following tonight. amara walker has a 360 bulletin. >> dzhokhar tsarnaev's jury selection delayed due to terror attacks in france. accused bomber facing attacks for nearly 2 years ago. his brother died days later in a shootout with police. three people died in the bombings and hundreds were injured. searchers found fuselage of the air asia flight 8501 in the java sea. divers will look for bodies. at least 50 have been recovered. more than 100 are missing and could be in the fuselage. two americans have made history at yosemite national park. they are the first to free climb 3,000 feet up the sheer face of el captain's don wall. all they used were feet and bloody hands to cover the half mile section. took them 9 days. many consider it the toughest rock climb in the world. a frightening moment caught on tape when a hippo surges out of
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the boat and charges at a group of tourists in zambia. no one was hurt and a tour guideposted this on facebook. >> got to watch out for those hippos. that does it for us tonight. see you at 11 p.m. eastern. cosby show a legend under fire starts now. i'm don lemon. this is our cnn special, "bill cosby, a legend under fire." generations of americans xwru up -- grew up with bill cosby. he wasn't just bill cosby, he was huxtable. how do you go from the most respected and loved people of the country to this? today, another woman came forward and filed a police report accusing him of sexual assault. also ahead tonight though, i talk to a group of women who