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speaker. russian aggression. international monitors warn the situation in ukraine is getting worse by the day. is russia's president putin about to launch a new invasion? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room". u.s. investigators are blaming china for a cyber attack which may be unparalleled in its scale and audacity. millions of americans including current and former government workers are the victims. personal information and security records have been jeopardized in a data breach which cuts across almost every federal agency and the chinese military is suspected of building a massive database on americans. what will the chinese do with all this information? i'll speak live with senator james rich. he's a member of the intelligence and foreign relations committees and our correspondents and analysts and guests are standing by with full coverage. let's begin with jim sciutto with the very latest.
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>> reporter: this breach unprecedented both in scope and target. 4 million federal employees compromised including personal information and security clearances and it only took one government agency that had not taken the simple step of updating its server software. that was the open door that hackers believe directed by the chinese government entered u.s. government systems. the concern is that this appears designed to lay the ground work for future attacks many more of them using that stolen personal information to both fool government employees and so-called spear fishing attacks and impersonate them to carry out insider attacks and by revealing who has security clearances they may now be able to identify expose even blackmail u.s. officials. white house is not publicly naming china but certainly acknowledging the scope of the problem. >> we have seen our adversaries use innovative techniques and to learn from their previous
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efforts to find vulnerabilities in our system and exploit them. >> reporter: this is just the latest in a series of hacks including the breach of the an temple health care system. they are aimed at building a huge database on americans. chinese hackers previously focused on stealing military secrets and financial data but once this breach was discovered by the u.s. government the u.s. created inside the system a fake system which then absorbed chinese attacks without them knowing something of a cyber honey pot so that they were able to deflect and have them think they were getting value when they were not but that was after they got a great deal of value. >> a lot of folks out there are asking this question why not retaliate. should the united states retaliate? >> the obama administration has tried virtually everything including raising this issue president to president. they charged an elite group of chinese hackers with criminal charges but china's attacks have
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only grown and there's a debate about the wisdom of hacking back. the private-sector is legally barred from doing so. the government is concerned about sparking a cycle of escalation a tit for tat where the attacks get more severe. the president issued an executive order authorizing cyber sanctions, this is what the government has imposed on russia for its actions inside ukraine. pick out companies, individuals similar to these individuals who were charged with criminal charges but in terms of taking that further that hasn't happened. really they are trying to find a way to deter china. they have not found that way yet. meanwhile a chilling new message from isis seems to be aimed at americans. what the air force is delivering its own message dropping smart bombs on an isis command center after a dum isis fighter gives away the location online. let's get the latest from barbara starr. >> reporter: wolf we know isis is growing in its sophistication
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but this latest video seemed perhaps to be an effort to recruit westerners and especially americans. >> together they march. they are the soldiers of allah. >> reporter: fluent english on a new video released by isis' media machine. >> swept by the coming winds of jihad. >> reporter: why an english speaking voice >> this is a great example of how they hone in on a specific audience and push their message to a specific group of people. >> reporter: in this case a coveted north american audience but isis' social media savvy can sometimes backfire. air force general told reporters this week his team of analysts combing through isis social media posts were able to identify the location of a command and krol center. within 22 hours they were able to take the building out.
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u.s. intelligence teams working in florida have been continually scouring social media hoping to find in the general's word a moron who gives up their location making them a target. the head of the air force says it's what they do. >> we're using everything we can to fine potential targets. >> reporter: the four star general with more than 3,000 hours in the cockpit would not address the pentagon's estimate that up to 13,000 isis fighters have been killed in coalition air strikes. >> i don't know where the number of 10,000 came from. >> reporter: he should. dod officials say it all comes from air force and navy pilots themselves who estimate the dead after each air strike. but even with the air campaign isis still showing muscle. >> they are influencing things on the ground. they were table move no ramadi. they are threatening to use water as a weapon. until we can stop all activity this will not be successful.
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>> reporter: that very sensitive issue about body count doesn't go away. one general is saying it's up to 13,000 the pentagon says it's 10, those another general says he doesn't know. another general today told pentagon reporters that the coalition air strikes are killing up to 1,000 isis fighters every month. wolf? >> i don't know where they are getting those numbers but those numbers obviously are fluctuating. we'll have more on this part of the story coming up. thanks very much. in iraq isis is turning up the pressure by turning off the tap. the terror group is using water as a weapon by cutting the flow at a strategic dam. let's go live to baghdad right now. our senior international correspondent nick paton walsh is on the scene. what's the latest? >> reporter: wolf you can imagine how are you intelligent this is for people living downstream from dam. they closed 23 of the 26 gates
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of that dam and we're hearing today the water level of that river has dropped again substantially as have the number of people fleeing that area downstream to areas further south where they think they can get better supplies. now this is key because that area downstream from the ramadi dam is where the security forces of iraq are gathering along with military too as are a number of civilians who are trapped. they need that water to exist. agriculture. washing. drinking. another issue too which seems to hour by hour get precariously close if that water level drops substantially isis can cross which until now has been a defensive moot protecting the iraqi government force. that could change the balance militarily here. look at the narrative. we're now weeks into the operation to recapture anbar and ramadi. we have not seen much territory change backhand but we heard
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isis understood what the key resources are in the area and cut them off. if you're a sunni and need water to live you need to go isis side of the dam. >> we're seeing very disturbing new video from isis at the scene of a major iraqi oil facility. tell us about that. >> reporter: what you're seeing now -- the slick social media campaign to bring in recruits. it will appeal to people in basements around the world getting an edge by joining isis. we're talking about toil refinery. it's an economic catastrophe. were it set fire in the basis threatened to do it. we're also seeing in that video american made weapons. now that could be an m-4 particularly being used but it shows you the prolie feration of weapons in this area and how
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things originally given to the iraqi army are ending up in their hands. also adds to the issue many disarmament advocates make if you add more small arms to a conflict you have no idea where they will end. you are not bringing peace you're causing more violence. these pictures you're seeing here are for a vital area. the government says they have the upper hand. quite clear isis doesn't want to let go of this state. it's clear isis does have a lot of u.s. weapons that the iraqi army abandoned as they fleed major cities. nick paton walsh in baghdad, be careful over there. joining us now james rish of idaho. senator, thanks very much for joining us. i want to talk to you about what isis is doing, the threat from isis here at home and abroad. first i have to ask you about this massive cyber attack on the
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u.s. government the federal government first of all. i know 4 million federal employees current and former have been impacted by this. does this include staff members up on capitol hill including members of your own staff? >> wolf it doesn't. report we have is that it is affecting only members -- only employees of the executive branch. so it would probably exempt ours but that's a small number cop paired to -- compared to number of employees in the executive branch. >> the department of state, department of defense or whatever they may be impacted by this right? >> right. no question about that. >> so it's believed that the chinese are doing this cyber attack amassing huge databases of personal information about americans. do you have any idea why they are doing this? >> you know there's a lot of speculation, wolf on why they
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are doing it. i think the first thing that needs to be determined is exactly who is doing it. the question you asked at the beginning is a question we always ask in the intelligence committee when we get a report like this is this state sponsored or is it a commercial operation or is it some kid sitting in his basement just playing? and, unfortunately, you can trace it back to china. but beyond that it's impossible really to pin it on anybody at least at this point. as you know the official response of the chinese government is that they didn't do it and of course they would say that. but before -- i know you talked about a retaliatory action. before you even think about anything like that you really need to determine who is specifically responsible for this. >> because basically the information we're getting here at cnn from u.s. officials is that china did in fact not just some chinese hackers but chinese hackers working for the chinese
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government or the chinese military were directly responsible for this enormous hack over these past several months so it's not just some kid in the basement this is a deliberate act by the government of china. are your telling me are your getting different information you can't confirm that yet? >> wolf i wouldn't say i'm getting different information. how i would phrase it is we're not getting the information that does confirm that. i would question the veracity of someone who said they could specifically trace this back to the chinese government. i'm not saying they aren't doing it i'm just saying that i think that may be a little bit premature. having said that you and i talked about this before that there are thousands of attacks on the u.s. government on u.s. businesses on u.s. individuals coming from foreign countries, some state actors some nonstate actors every single day as we
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sit here and talk. there's attacks going on right now, and i really believe that the next incident in america is going to be a cyber incident. we all know what can happen if you can shut down the internet and shut down all of the cyber world, particularly for any length of time it would be a very very serious problem. >> senator, we have nor discuss and especially what's going on with isis in iraq and syria. we'll take a quick break. more when we come back. the promise of the cloud is that every organization has unlimited access to information, no matter where they are. the microsoft cloud gives our team the power to instantly deliver critical information to people, whenever they need it. here at accuweather we get up to 10 billion data requests every day. the cloud allows us to scale up so we can handle that volume. we can help keep people safe and to us that feels really good.
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we're back with republican senator from idaho. he serves on intelligence and foreign relations committees. senator, we saw earlier this week police in boston shoot and kill a man who was believed to be planning a knife attack on law enforcement. we also know that at least one of the men connected to the plot the alleged plot had been in touch with isis fighters overseas. do you know if isis had a direct involvement in this boston plot? >> yes, i do know but wolf i can't go into the details on that. you'll recall some weeks back when i appeared here on your show i told you they had moved that is isis had moved from just aspirational motives to actually going to operational. we're seeing the effects of that
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right now. one month ago today of course there was the attack in garland, texas. tuesday, of course the law enforcement shot and killed a man in boston who was actually in the process of carrying out an attack. they didn't let him get very far with it. both of these are feel good success stories for us here. our intelligence community is doing an excellent job as far as staying on top of these things. unfortunately, as you know we have to be right 100% of the time. all we can do is pray that they continue to do as good a job as what they are doing. but, look when it comes to isis, they are doing their best using social media to inspire people in america who are so inclined who are foolish enough and who are vulnerable enough to buy into their philosophy and
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theory. they are doing their best to inspire them and, indeed they are getting more bold on social media. as far as getting specific direction to people for times, places and individuals that they would like to see attacked. so this is serious. it's getting more serious all the time. we've got to continue to ratchet up our response to that. i can give the american people absolute assurance that we are ratcheting up our response to that. we're is going to continue to do so meet it head on. >> i want to be precise as much as you can tell me senator, is it your understanding that someone in isis directed usaama rahim the man who was shot and killed by boston police and the fbi earlier this week they directed him to go out to amazon.com and purchase three large military style knives to go ahead and kill police officers and also behead pamela geller? >> you know wolf i really
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can't get into the details of that. i think probably you've already reported some of the open source reporting that's been on that. certainly, the proposed victim was specified by isis. how that was done directly and beyond that i really can't go into it. it's classified. but they are getting more bold in identifying targets, dates and methods of how they want to see things done. and, unfortunately, i think we can only expect that that's going to increase rather than decrease. >> very quickly more than three individuals involved. we know there are two, one is dead one is arrested. they are looking at a third suspect. are any other suspects connected to this boston terror plot out there? >> again, wolf if i go into that i'm going to be disclosing things that are classified.
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but, again, let me assure you that the intelligence community is on top of these things and they are using every tool they have in the tool box to connect the dots whenever they can, and they are going to continue to stay on top of it. >> thanks very much for joining us. >> wolf thank you. >> coming up following the burial of the boston terror suspect we're waiting for boston police to release the video of the actual shooting as new details emerge about a third man potentially involved in the case. and is russia's president putin about to launch a new invasion. international monitors warning that the situation in ukraine is getting worse by the day. stay with us, you're in "the situation room". ghfares and corridors that were just totally pitch black. those things had to change. we wanted to restore our lighting system in the city. you can have the greatest dreams in the world, but unless you can finance those dreams,
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following the burial of slain boston terrorist suspect, usaama rahim we're waiting for police to release the video of the shooting. in the meantime new details are emerging what authorities are saying are an isis inspired plot. ma me la brown is in boston now. what are you learning because there's a lot of concern that rahim was someone the fbi was on to for some time but they moved only in the past obviously, several days. >> reporter: that's absolutely right. in fact we're learning usaama rahim suspected the fbi was on to him back in 2012 and bugging his phone.
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this is a facebook post under an ali as. he posted on his facebook page back in 2012 that he heard some clicking noises on his phone and that an fbi agent had called him about quote allegations and had been by his house to visit a few times. now we have confirmed through law enforcement officials that he has been the subject of an fbi investigation for the past couple of years. but there was growing concern in the past ten days that he was becoming operational and that's why he was put under 24/7 surveillance. we learned this past sunday he met with his nephew david wright and a third person to discuss an alleged beheading plot in new york. >> pamela the criminal complaint says there was a third man involved. what do we know about him? >> reporter: we're learning more about him. we learn he's 24 years old. and he was friend of david wright. and rahim as well. we know that he was questioned on tuesday and then the fbi
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raided his home on wednesday and authorities have been outside his home ever since the shooting here in boston. but it's important to point out no arrests have been made. he's not been charged with a crime. the investigation still very active. but i'm told not to expect any law enforcement activity any time soon as one official told me if we were going make an arrest already we would have. again the investigation ongoing. important to point out one of our producers paul murphy talked to him over twitter this past march, talked to this third individual and he apparently told him he was in touch with a member of isis and this alleged isis fighter was encouraging him to go to syria to fight with the terrorist group. >> that's pretty important. thanks very much for that. let's get back to our top story. china is being blamed for the unprecedented cyber assault on government agencies affecting millions of americans. let's bring in our cnn law enforcement analyst former fbi assistant director tom frn
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uentes and joining us a cyber security expert president of fire eye, inc. please put this into context this cyber attack by the china government by not simply some random hackers. give us some context. >> in the first place it would be hard to believe any random hacker would want 4 million records of employees from the federal government. chinese and other countries spy trade craft including our own would be to find out all you can about who are the employees, what sensitive position what's their pay grade level, what clearances to they hold where do they live what's their address, what's their social security nurjs all the data possible on present and former employees so that then they can do a more targeted approach to find somebody to cooperate with their side. >> to have a huge database from which they can go ahead and search for specific information.
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kevin, we know the u.s. government essentially left the door open for this somewhat. they didn't update software that was, that could have entirely prevented what happened. that's what we're hearing. i want to get your analysis. >> well i don't think you ever learn what can prevent an intrusion based on the state of a victim company that's been compromised. meaning this. the attack that worked if that safeguard happened to be in place it would have been a second attack third attack. i'm not sure we saw the boundary of the capabilities of this attack group at each one of these victim sites. they usually have another trick in the bag that would be successful. >> you investigated the north korea hack allegedly against sony pictures back in december. how do you go about investigating something as enormous as this one 4 million americans, federal employees current and former who may have had their most sensitive information stolen by chinese
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hackers. >> there's nothing different about this investigation than any of the others. right now it's one intrusion amongst many. the group that hacked into the government has hacked the private-sector, other government organizations and right now as we overturn each little rock we're finding evidence they have been in other places. this is not isolated. this is a wave of attacks being done by a state enabled hacking group in china. >> tara you've studied this extensively. how good are the chinese at this? >> the recent attack would suggest they are quite good. this affected 4 million current and former employees. there's only 2.6 in the current executive government overall. the chinese have engaged in a variety of attacks not just to gain information for economic purposes but particularly concerning because it can be used for blackmail purposes getting information on security clearance individuals and be used for counter intelligent purposes as well.
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>> give us an example how it can be used for blackmail. >> the opm is the office that is the office of personnel management of the federal government. they hold about 90% i think it's been reported of the security clearance records of government employees. from individuals from the defense department the fbi, the cia, go through clearance and fill out information on themselves it's housed in a repository at opm. it has information where you lived, personal information, personal background history, all information that even potentially individuals who are not currently government employees might still have records on file there and it can be used to coerce or blackmail somebody with information they don't want made public. >> tom, you worked at the fbi. were fbi agents compromised in this cyber attack >> absolutely. after i retired i had an issue i wanted to check in my personnel file. i contacted human resources at fbi headquarters. they said sorry we've already sent your entire file over to opm. they are the repository for
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everybody in the executive branch. >> even as we speak the chinese hackers may have all your sensitive information. >> they probably do but i had eight or ten trips to china on fbi business. if they wanted me they already hit. i'm not that worried about it. >> you got to take some actions to change passwords stuff like that. >> what your going to do? not move change social security. any change you make you have to make it in the records of opm and frankly i had a few dealings with omp and takes 18 months to figure it out. >> what will the chinese do with this information? >> i really don't know. you know i'm not a mind reader. i don't know what they intend to do. i look at the scale of this. it's not stopping at government organizations. you see health care providers being tar get. the important information we have to figure out as a country is it reasonable for us to defend ourselves against state enabled attacks like this. there's no doubt in my mind the chinese government if they are
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not behind it are certainly aware of attacks of this nature. >> you were an analyst at the cia, now if your information could have been compromised as well? >> they didn't specific what agencies in particular were affectled but reports said over 20 federal agencies have been affected. they will notify people on monday. the interesting thing to see and look for how does the u.s. respond and if and when it is made public the specifics in terms of attribution is the united states going to issue sanctions, going to do more public shaming. there's a strategic and economic engagement summit coming up here in d.c. with the chinese. be interesting to see how secretary kerry handles it in the upcoming discussions. >> the president of china is supposed to come here in september. we'll see how that works out. thank you all very much. coming up an ominous new warning that civilians are at
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indictment for allegedly lying to fbi and violating banking rules to cover up payments to an unmaimed individual because of what prosecutors call hastert's quote prior misconduct. now the sister of a man who was an equipment manager for a high school wrestling team that hastert coached back in illinois has now come forward. she tells abc news her brother who died in 1995 told her in 1979 that he was gay and he was abused by dennis hastert. >> i asked him, stevie when was your first same-sex experience? he just looked at me and said it was with dennis hastert. and i just -- i know i was stunned. i said why didn't you ever tell anybody, stevie. i mean he was your teacher. why didn't you ever tell anybody. he just looked at me and said who is ever going to believe me? >> the woman tells abc she never asked hastert for money and only recently was contacted by the
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fbi. hastert and his attorney have not responded to cnn's request for comment. joining us here in the situation room is lynn sweet. washington bureau chief for the washington sun times and our correspondent. jeff you worked in washington reported from chicago for a long time. what your hearing? >> friends and fellow members of congress who the speaker served with are stunned by this. even more today by these new revelations that we're hearing from the sister because she also attended the same high school. so on facebook actually she posted a story of speaker hastert and she also said i can say with absolute certainty there's so much more to this story, finally the truth. there was a conversation going on with former alums in the school. no one so far we've talked to on the wrestling team fellow students teachers remembers anything like this at all. one thing we're learning the fbi is confirming that they have
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talked to a second person and are confirming they talked to her but she is not part of any of this. so there are at least three victims but two people who are central to this investigation. >> you covered illinois chicago politics for a long time. lynn is there any -- did you ever have any indication at all that the speaker of the house had some sort of sordid background if you will? >> absolutely none when the indictment came out last week people were shocked as more details came dealing with sexual misconduct. even more shock. i mean as you know and as jeff knows just having politicians in illinois get accused of corruption well that's kind of common. we're used to that. this is a whole new situation that no one of knew was anything that dennis hastert would be involved in. plus when he the apparent bad judgment of how he decided to pay individual a and talking to the fbi about apparently it
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looks like without lawyer. >> you have no idea who individual a is? >> and jeff -- >> we don't know. it was someone at that high school presumably during that time frame but we don't know who that is. >> one former congressman did say the other day that yes, he had herd rumors if you will but shrugged it off. >> i don't know why he is saying that now. if you have anything -- but here's something to think about. i understand that if this did happen you had those weeks in 1998 when dennis had that whirlwind day locked up the nomination for speaker newt gingrich wasn't going to be speaker. the man heir apparent bob livingston had his own affair and this is the day decided to impeach bill clinton who had his own monica lewinsky problems. all these people had to do was
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start talking about it and i am pretty sure dennis would not have become the speaker. >> back in 2006 there was a scandal involving a former congressman, mark foley of florida who supposedly was sending inappropriate texts to young pages working up on capitol hill. at the time dennis hastert was speaker and he said this. >> we'll do everything possible to make the program safe for the kids while they are in our care in washington, d.c. and we will make sure that we can be a resource for their parents once they return home. >> understandably a lot of people are focusing in on that. >> new questions. at the time he was criticized by some republicans and others for not acting swiftly enough on congressman foley and it opened up a lot of questions about his management style. it ultimately led to republicans who lost the house later that fall and democrats took control and he left the house. now this is all in this context
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had we known it is a whole different thing. again, his staff i talked to them we know the same people we covered him for a long time. no one says they remember any of this. this is something he clearly either kept to himself or to a very tight circle. >> more telling when i talk to former staffers now today did anyone come to the office with a story that they said they wanted to tell maybe you brushed it off at the time maybe the person didn't push enough. is there anything where somebody tried to say i have important information and they all say no. >> although the sister of this young man who died in 1995 she did go supposedly to abc news and off they are information but not on the record and nothing ever emerged. >> abc said dennis denied it. >> in the rough and tumble of chicago politics amazing this did not come out. >> all right guys we'll leave it on that note. we'll continue to cover the story. president obama reassures u.s. ally it has its strong support
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tonight new fears of a full-scale russian invasion of ukraine. let's go to brian todd watching the story. >> well president obama's conversation with the ukrainian president tonight strikes at the urgency of what's happening in ukraine. and their concerns over what vladimir putin might do next. mr. obama is sending his u.n. envoy, samantha power to ukraine next week this all comes as the security situation there is growing worse by the minute. pro russian rebels blast away at
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ukrainian forces. one rebel scrambles into an underground shelter. the worst fighting inside ukraine in months has the ukrainian president issuing a new warning, telling his military he's convinced of russia's intentions. >> translator: a full-scale invasion along the full border with russia we must be truly ready for this. >> officials at the white house, state department and in u.s. intelligence aren't commenting on whether they share the belief that vladimir putin might launch a full-scale invasion of ukraine. but tonight u.s. officials tell cnn they're concerned about attacks by combined forces of russia and the separatists. >> it goes right on applying its playbook in new territories as though this council is too blind to notice. >> putin has denied that russian troops are inside ukraine. a state department official tells cnn that the russians not only have heavy weapons there,
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beijing government is behind an unprecedented cyberattack on the united states that could lead to blackmail or worse. how was the federal computer network cracked? tracking terror -- new information about the dead suspect in boston his past contacts with the fbi and a third man allegedly linked to a beheading plot. isis morons that's what a u.s. commander is calling terrorists who are giving away their location on social media. is the isis pr strategy back-firing? ex-speaker accused stunning new details of sexual abuse allegations against dennis hastert, from a woman who claims her brother became a victim of who became a powerful leader in congress. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in "the situation room." >> breaking now, china's powerful military may be in possession of the stolen personal information of millions of americans that could be used
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to blackmail u.s. officials or expose secret agents. sources tell cnn investigators believe they can trace a massive cyberattack on the federal government to chinese hackers. this could be the biggest breach ever of the u.s. government's computer networks. tonight, new information about the huge and dangerous cybersecurity failure. congresswoman kelsey gabberts is here with us and our correspondents are standing by as we cover all the news breaking now. first let's go to our chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto with the latest. >> ranking member of the house intelligence committee and juf briefed on the attack tells me it's in order of magnitude bigger than any cyberattack the u.s. has seen of its kind and the belief is it was intended to facilitate more attacks in the future by identifying vults, and also using personal information against federal employees, to manipulate them.
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it only took one government agency that had not taken the simple step of updating its server software to open the door to an unprecedented and alarming cyberattack by china, u.s. officials say. the white house still is not publicly naming the culprit, it's acknowledging the growing threat. >> we have seen our adversaries use innovative techniques to try to find vulnerabilities in our system and exploit them. >> this attack appears to designed to lay the groundwork for future attacks, using stolen information to fool government employees in so-called spear phishing attacks. and crucially by revealing who has security clearances and at what level, they may now be able to identify expose and blackmail u.s. officials around the world. targeting the personal information of federal employees is new.
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chinese hackers had previously focuseded on stealing military and government secrets to enhance national security. and corporate data for financial gain. >> i don't think that's stopped, but this is just a new attack victor which is typically being used by organized crime, for monetizing that data. and now nation states are clearly seeing that it has some use for them as well. >> security analysts say some federal agencies are not following the government's own guidelines to update operating systems with the latest protections. the office of personnel management discovered the breach by using new software but the detection came after the system had already been compromised. after years of alleged cyberattacks by china, the obama administration has tried raising the issue president to president. it even issued criminal charges against an elite group of chinese hackers. believed housed at this shanghai building and known as unit
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61398. but china's attacks have only continued and grown. >> let's face it cyber as we're all waking up to this morning is the newest domain of warfare. >> one the breach was discovered the u.s. create at fake system within the system designed to absorb chinese cyber attacks without the chinese hackers knowing. something of a cyber honeypot. it continued for some weeks, but it came after chinese hackers were inside the system capturing data for months. >> jim sciutto, thanks very much. the obama white house says the scope of the cyberattack and the source are now under investigation. let's go to our white house correspondent, michelle kosinski. how is the administration respond together cyberattack. >> this is looking like an act of cyber warfare at this point. the white house made it clear that this kind of hack is a threat to america's national security its people and its economy. but it didn't want to give any detail about how this could have
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happened and won't acknowledge that u.s. officials do think china's government is behind it. they did say that whoever did this is a dedicated adversary. what does this mean for the relationship between china and the u.s.? they always talk about forging a new way forward and then a hack happens. the white house says this is constantly brought up whenever the u.s. is meeting with chinese officials, that they've asked china to take certain steps to stop this and they're going to keep bringing it up. >> and the question comes up again and again, how best to get ahead of the attacks. it does seem whenever something is done lately it's reactive. the white house believes one way to do this is a lot more information sharing early on in a hack between the private sector and the government. they believe that the hackers often use the same techniques and for the sharing to happen more efficiently, they say congress needs to act and the white house took the opportunity today to slam congress for not
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doing more. >> that effort to coordinate requires congressional action. and the fact is we need the united states congress to come out of the dark ages and join us here in the 21st century to make sure we have the kinds of defenses that are necessary to protect a modern computer system. and we have not seen that kind of action in congress. >> the white house staunchly defended its own record on trying to stop these things. saying they've taken executive action, proposed reg legislation and rolled out fixes. we hear the criticism. today we heard from a former deputy secretary of homeland security who says there is more the u.s. can do to try to stop the hacks. but it's not doing it. wolf? >> michelle thank you. let's go to the terror plots in boston right now. we expect authorities will soon release surveillance video showing the suspect usama ra hooem being shot and killed by authorities, they promise to make it public after his burial today. tonight we're learning more about raheem. his associates and links to
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isis. our justice correspondent, pamela brown, is in boston working her sources. what are you learning pamela? >> we're learning more about the third individual who is believed to be part of the terrorist conspiracy. he apparently was a friend of usama raheem. and david wright. we learned that he had been in touch with an isis fighter online apparently. he told this to a cnn producer. paul murphy we have learned from law enforcement officials that the investigation into what role he may have played with the terror plot is still very active. tonight indications usama raheem became suspicious the fbi was on to him in 2012 and had bugged his phone. on facebook under the alias raheem al enriki he wrote i heard some clicking noises on my phone. he said an fbi agent called and told him. we have some allegations for you. law enforcement officials
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confirm that raheem who police shot and killed in boston on tuesday had been on the fbi's radar for two years. they say he met on a rhode island beach sunday with his nephew david wright and an unnamed 24-year-old man. the man lives here in rhode island with his parents. police searched the home wednesday and a law enforcement source tells cnn agents have spoken with him but he hasn't been arrested. the three allegedly plotted to behead an activist in new york. before raheem changed his plan and decided to attack police officers in new york on tuesday, according to the fbi. >> the trick of this is let the person get close enough so they're taking a substantial step forward. that their efforts, their actions are prosecutable. >> cnn communicated with the third individual through twitter back in march. he indicated he was in touch with terrorists online including with isis. he claimed an alleged isis fighter was telling him to come
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to syria to fight with the terrorist group. this as cnn is learning known isis members overseas were communicating through peer-to-peer communication, with at least one of the three men, encouraging a terrorist attack in the u.s. court records show raheem bought three military knives on amazon. delivered to him in the last week. boston police commissioner william evans believes he intended to behead officers. >> when they have the knives and what's happening across the country and across the world, the beheading of military and police officers we can insinuate that that's why they have the knives. and based on the comment, that's what we believe they were up to. >> now as for the third individual we're told by law enforcement officials he has no been arrested and he lass not been charged with a crime. as one official i spoke to said if we could have arrested him by now we would have. wolf? >> pamela brown in boston. thanks very much. let's talk more about the isis threat as well as the massive cyberattack on the
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united states. joining us congresswoman tulsey gabbert. an iraq war veteran and member of the house armed services committee as well as the house foreign affairs committee. joining frus hawaii. i want to talk about what's going on in iraq. the war against isis in a moment. let me ask you about the cyberattack on the federal government four million current and former employees, may have had some of the most sensitive personal information stolen by the hackers. do you suspect anyone on your staff who may have previously served in the executive branch may have had his or her information stolen? >> aloha, wolf thanks for having me on to talk about this very important issue. i've been in touch with my staff. at this point we have not gotten word that any of them have been a part of the millions whose private information was hacked. but i think we really need to look here at the larger issue of the serious vulnerabilities that we have within our cybersecurity systems here in the united
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states. and we also need to recognize where else these threats are coming from. we have sceneries attacks coming from russia from north korea from iran and even reports recently that isis themselves are creating their own team of hacking jihadists. so it's important that the leaders in our country make the necessary investments and really understanding the serious threat we're facing in this relatively new-ish form of warfare that we've got to deal with now, and going into the future. >> how should the u.s. respond to these cyberattacks? >> well again i think this goes into the necessity of first of all, strengthening our systems. this is pointed out in the last few times that the united states government as well as those if the private sector have been hacked and on the government side it's shown that the resources have not been dedicated towards strengthening our systems to make it so that we are protected. so that the american people are protected from these kinds of attacks. secondly the issue here really
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that could be devastating, to our country, is if our court infrastructure was hacked if you look at our energy grids, if you look at our nuclear energy facilities you look at some of these core infrastructure elements within our communities all across the country, making sure that those are protected again against these very talented hackers that are being employed by our working for different entities all across the country. >> hold on for one second congresswoman. we've got breaking news. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> these are live pictures we're getting from illinois right now. this looks like an amtrak train headed from san antonio, to chicago, collided with a truck near wilmington illinois. just a little while ago according to officials, amtrak train number 22 stopped, is stopped obviously waiting for police to investigate. this according to amtrak
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officials we're told police so far, no injuries have been reported. but another disturbing development there. a train colliding with a truck near wilmington illinois. south and west of chicago. these are live pictures coming in from our affiliates we'll see what's going on. seeing passengers getting off right there. let's take a quick break and we'll get back to tulsey gabbert. more on the war against isis in iraq and elsewhere. unbelievable! toenail fungus? seriously? smash it with jublia! jublia is a prescription medicine proven to treat toenail fungus. use jublia as instructed by your doctor. look at the footwork! most common side effects include ingrown toenail, application site redness, itching, swelling
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following breaking news not far from chicago, an amtrak train from san antonio to chicago, amtrak train number 22 smashed, collided with a truck near wilmington illinois that's just to the south and west of chicago. you can see the part of the truck in front of the train right there. the rest of the truck behind the train. it's no injuries have been reported. at least not yet. passengers though were taken off the train. the train is stopped. these are live pictures coming in. we'll update you as soon as we get some more information. another amtrak train. colliding with a truck near wilmington illinois. in the meantime back to
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congresswoman tulsey gabbert of hawaii an iraq war veteran, member of the house armed services and foreign affairs committee. we're following breaking developments in the war against isis. we learned this week that the u.s. air force actually used isis social media posts to identify bombing targets. what do you make of this? is this the best the u.s. can do to actually go to some isis social media posts, find out where some isis terrorists are and launch an air strike and try to kill them? >> first of all, you know great job to the airmen who are doing this. but there's something that really bothers me about this. just as we saw this isis guy bragging by taking a selfie we're seeing now on our side the u.s. is bragging about our own capability. therefore opening up a veblt and a weakness. we've seen this with the situation that just occurred in boston over the last few days where really frankly across the board we're revealing far more
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information than is necessary first of all. and revealing far more information that will ultimately point out in the military we call tactics, techniques and procedures are. therefore causing them to say okay look this is how we have to change our own tactics. so that the united states is no longer able to exploit what they have what we have done. this is a problem that needs to be fixed as we look at things that we need to continue to do going forward to defeat isis. >> earlier this week the deputy secretary of state set a coalition conference against isis in paris that 10,000 isis fighters have been killed by u.s. largely u.s. and coalition airstrikes. other officials say only two civilians, collateral damage as it's called in the military, have been killed. how can they be so precise with those kinds of numbers? >> well i don't know exactly what numbers or the sources of those numbers that they're referring to. of course to minimize absolutely
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collateral damage to civilians is the best possible outcome when you're dealing with a war situation. i'd like to point to that conference, though, that tony was speaking at. and point to syria's absence, there were no representatives from the kurdish government or the kurdish military present there. this is the second conference that they've had. where frankly they have completely omitted the people who are on the ground. in iraq as well as in syria. who have been most effective in fighting isis on the ground. they essentially have been our ground troops and the fact this they were not invited the first time and now the second time just goes to show how flawed this policy is that continues here with the obama administration started with the bush administration of dumping all of the support into the central iraqi baghdad government. influenced by iran and frankly leading what is essentially a failed state. >> on that note the last time we spoke you suggested maybe
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it's time to start thinking about partitioning iraq into what's often called a three-state solution. a sunni state, a shia state and a kurdish state. i've spoken with several members of the obama administration since our conversation. they think that's not a good idea. they say they strongly oppose it. why do you believe they're wrong? >> well i think it's important first of all to operate in the world that actually exists. not the world that we wished existed. if we look at the policies that have been continued from the bush administration to the obama administration the realities tell you they're just not working our only hope is to get rid of isis' stronghold in iraq which is some sort of a three-state solution. exactly how it's configured would have to be determined. empowering each of the three ethnic and sectarian groups in iraq so that they're responsible for their own governance and their own security will create a situation that will expel isis
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from iraq and defeat them. >> there was a very disturbing report in the "wall street journal" today, it basically suggesting that iraqi government forces are not allowing young men trying to cross a bridge to flee ramadi. now under isis control. they're letting elderly people women, children cross, refugees trying to get away from isis. but young men, the iraqi army not allowing them to leave. saying you have to go back to ramadi and fight isis. when you hear that kind of report what's your reaction to that? you served in iraq you're an iraq war veteran. >> wolf it's disturbing and it points again to a perfect example of how this she i don't militia is oppressing the sunni, the nonisis sunni tribes and why this continued that a so-called unified iraq is possible. really is not. when you look at the sunni, the
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nonisis-supporting sunni tribes many of them are not motivated to fight against isis. not vote serrated to fight against isis because of the suppression coming from this central shia government in baghdad. just imagine how many of those sunni families are turned away from escaping isis. driven back into the arms of isis understanding that they have nowhere else to go essentially and this is why it's critical it's important for the united states government to relate to to directly support and to empower these nonisis sunni tribes to fight for their own territory. fight for their families fight against isis. knowing if they do that. they will have the ability to secure their own territory and to govern over this place that has been their home for so long. >> representative tulsey gappert of hawaii thanks so much for
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coming in. >> thanks wolf aloha. for more on what you can do for those attempting to escape the violence brought on by isis in iraq and syria, visit cnn.com/impact. how account united states stop china or its military from amassing secret information on americans through cyberattacks? our experts are standing by. and we're learning the name of an alleged victim of sexual abuse by dennis hastert decades before he was speaker of the house. the stunning accusations, how did they stay secret for so long?
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following two stories breaking right now. take a look at this this is near chicago, about an hour or so outside chicago. an amtrak passenger train collided with a truck. the train was headed to chicago from san antonio, in texas. so far, we don't know of any injuries but you can see the truck, basically sliced in half by that amtrak train number 22.
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there's also breaking news coming in from california. nearly 200 firefighters fighting a wildfire near lancaster, an hour north of los angeles. the fire has burned about 150 acres so far. the cause of the wildfire under investigation. we'll watch both of these stories and update you when we get more. there's another story we're watching involving u.s. investigators pointing their fingers directly at china, saying the beijing government is likely behind a massive cyberattack on the united states. four million current and former federal employees from nearly every government agency may have had their personal information stolen. some of the most sensitive information out there. let's bring in christian whiten a former state department senior adviser, an expert on china. also with us our law enforcement analyst, former fbi assistth director tom fuentes and cnn justice reporter evan perez. evan putting into context, what are you learning? >> well wolf this was what's
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called a zero day attack a vulnerability that's particularly difficult for the government to stop or for frankly any organization private or public to stop. and we're told by that the investigators looked at this as something that frankly the homeland security department should have found a way to find earlier than it did these hackers were in the system for months. and it wasn't until april before the office of personnel management finally noticed this and then that's when they decided to try to fix this. the homeland security department is supposed to be using software to monitor these systems to see if there's any anomalies and they did not catch this. >> tom, u.s. officials tell me they don't know why the chinese did this. what they want to use, they can guess they have some assumptions. here's the question how does the u.s. government find out why the chinese wanted the information, the most sensitive information about four million americans current and former
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employees. >> well hopefully, wolf when people report that they've been approached suspiciously to maybe help you know with the chinese government or with other espionage personnel, in whatever they're trying to do. and oftentimes if they're contacted mysteriously traveling overseas and report it to the state department or the fbi that they've been approached they get an idea that might be. and something else to include in this this is not just the employees, opm has everybody's financial -- >> office of personnel management. >> yes, office of personnel management has all the data concerning spouses and ex-spouses. their business records, their financial disclosures, their stock holdings and other financial information so this is sensitive information. not just on the government employee, but on everybody in that employee's family and spouses and ex-spouses. >> it's really widespread. stand by christian. you said you were surprised at how quickly the u.s. was able to
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finger china in this attack. why? >> well it is there's not a desire at the high levels of the obama administration to antagonize china. the president badly wants a climate deal to be finalized at a meeting with president xi. late they are month there's a strategic and economic dialogue where our secretaries of state and treasury meet with their counterparts from china, so we want smooth relations, coming out and saying it's china so quickly means there's overwhelming evidence. china is the biggest cyberoffender against us and it's something they're going to continue to do unless there is some push-back. >> if the u.s. knows how the chinese operate and knows enough about identifying the chinese in this specific case that's what these investigators are saying why can't the u.s. prevent these kinds of cyberattacks? >> well that's a very interesting question. and with all the money all the taxpayer money that is expended on cyberdefense you wonder why it isn't working. if you look back over the past couple of years there have been
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huge lapses in our security. including wikileaks and it seems we do an okay job at protecting our most sensitive information, the names and identities of human intelligence sources, but we're pretty lousy with the rest of our information. and it calls for more compartmentalization there's only so much you can do defensively. we have to make countries like china and north korea which attacked us last year they've paid very little consequence. either in the electronic realm or diplomatically. we may raise this at a low level, but frankly we ought to look at canceling the summit between obama and president xi until they apologize or something else is done it make them pay for this. >> the chinese president is supposed to be here in washington in september around the time of the u.n. general assembly. evan do you have any indication how the u.s. will respond to this cyberattack? >> the investigation they're doing is still beginning. but what happened as christian was pointing out, sometimes these things happen in
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inconvenient times. the obama administration knew that the the people's liberation army was behind attacks against some very large corporations and they sat on that information for a couple of years until they felt it was finally time to confront china. they indicted members of the people's liberation army of china in bringing charges in that case. they're going to wait until they figure out when is the right time to be able to announce this. and to tom's point, what i think i'm told is happen something that the chinese are trying to protect the right kind of spear phishing attack. sending you emails to make you believe that it's coming from someone you know. and so this information will be used perfectly to show you know something only a friend or your family member would know. and so that's what the use of this information is. to chinese intelligence. >> that's especially worrisome. people will be afraid to open any attachments they get over email in the not too distant
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future. tom? >> i don't think for long. people can't help it. this is how we communicate now, this is what's going on. everybody may be sensitive for a while, but it won't last long. one other point with countries like china and russia is the more sophisticated they become the more reliant they are on sophisticated computer networks then the more vulnerable they are to our going after them. and so i don't think in the long run, i don't think they really want to get into a cyberwar because they're not in a position to win that either. >> is the u.s. limited in its response options? >> i think we're politically limited. i think our capabilities are considerable. if you look at our cybercommand our abilities to retaliate, if that were desired, would be very considerable. but again, look back and you reported extensively on north korea's cyberattack against sony pictures. north korea paid very little price for that. some people were put on sanctions lists. those people and companies had very little exposure to the international system international travel international finance.
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so basically north korea got away with this we shouldn't be surprised that china, who has more diplomatic and economic clout than north korea is going to keep doing this. they feel they can keep pushing on an open door and we aren't going to use our full must toll push back. >> guys thanks very much. just ahead, a woman comes forward to say dennis hastert abused her late brother back when hastert was a high school wrestling coach. has someone else been blackmailing the former house speaker. and jeb bush has been running for president for a while now. why hasn't he made his official announcement? at least not yet?
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update you on the two breaking stories we're following now. take a look. this is near chicago, an amtrak passenger train collided with a truck. the train was headed to chicago from san antonio, texas. so far, we don't know of any injury but the truck simply cut in half. in california a wildfire near lancaster has burned at least 150 acres, 200 firefighters are on the scene, three helicopters and two fixed-wing aircraft have been sent to help. there's no prediction about when this fire will be contained. we'll stay on top of both of these stories. other news we're following, new allegations and decades-old secrets involving a former speaker of the house of representatives, a woman is now publicly accusing dennis hastert of sexually abusing her now-dead brother, long before hastert was one of the most powerful people in the united states. she is speaking out as hastert
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faces federal charges of lying about a multimillion-dollar cover-up of past misconduct. our senior washington correspondent, jeff zeleny has more on the widesening scandal. jeff what are you learning? >> it's a story that's more than four decades old only coming top light now. here in washington we knew of dennis hastert as the longest serving republican speaker of the house, but these allegations are from a far earlier chath anywhere his life as a high school teacher in the 1960s and '70s. tonight, a new accusation against former house speaker dennis hastert. alleged sexual abuse four decades ago. >> he damaged steve, i think more than any of us will ever know. >> this is jolene burge, who is now accusing hastert of sexually abusing her brother at yorkville high school in illinois. hastert was a wrestling coach. her brother, a student equipment manager. she told abc news her brother, stichb reinboldt, confided in
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her about the abuse years later when he told her he was gay. he died in 1995 at 42 years old. >> i said steven when was your first same-sex experience? he looked at me and said it was with dennis hastert. i said -- i was stunned. i said why didn't you ever tell anybody, stevie? he just looked at me and said who is ever going to believe me. >> she was approached by the fbi in recent weeks, about hastert before his indictment became public. he faces charges of bank fraud and lying to the fbi about hush money paid to another former student, who was also allegedly abused. the justice department says he agreed to pay $3.5 million to cover up past misconduct. and cnn has learned the fbi has also spoken to at least one more person in addition to burge, who may have been a victim. hastert was a coach and boy scout leader before coming to washington in 1987. he became the longest-serving
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republican speaker, leaving congress in 2007. he's been in hiding since the charges were announced last week. his attorney has not responded to requests for comment. but hastert did deny the abuse allegations to abc when they first arose in 2006. jolene burge said she confronted hastert when he tried to attend her brother's funeral. >> i looked at him and i said i wanted to to know why did you what you did to my brother. i want you to know that your secret didn't die in there with my brother. >> she did not respond to messages today from cnn. on her facebook page she posted a story about hastert and wrote, i can say with absolute certainty there is so much more to this story. finally, the truth. his former colleagues say they're stunned at the charges against hastert. >> i was shocked and dismayed by the reports that i read as anyone else around here. >> now several friends of hastert in illinois and here in washington told me they are stunned by the allegations. authorities in illinois say there was no record of any
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complaints against hastert all these years. now he has not responded to any of these charges. but he's scheduled to appear in federal court in chicago on tuesday. wolf? >> jeff thanks very much. let's bring in our chief political analyst, gloria borger and brianna keilar and ron brownstein the editorial editor of the "national journal." gloria is there any indication that any of his colleagues while he was speaker of the house, had any indication of the allegations? >>. no i'm talked to former staffers who were in the leadership at the time. former house republicans, current house republicans. and to a person they say they are completely stunned. and shocked by this. i think the question of course that everybody is asking was, did this behavior continue while he was in office? nobody knows the answer to that. >> you covered congress for a long time. any indications at all that anyone was suspicious about
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this? >> no and i think at first people were feeling shock. now you talk to former aides and they think there's something to this. they they believe that. and so i think they have this very human reaction of just being speaker boehner said dismayed. they're disgusted when you talk to former aides. they didn't have any idea. >> no indication. >> no idea. >> i've covered washington for a long time. no indication. >> let's talk about the latest job numbers that came in today. unemployment went up a tiny little bit, 5.5% but 280,000 new jobs were created in the month of may. but you know all of these positive indicators whether it's the dow jones industrial average 67 years ago was at 7,000, now 18,000 or the unemployment rate going from 10% down to 5%. if you will. as it translated into job approval numbers for the president of the united states? >> only to some extent. he has gotten some credit. if you look at his approval ratings on the economy. they are definitely stronger now
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than they were a year ago. they are somewhat depressed now because the news in the past few months over the winter wasn't as good there's a secular trend where that's improving. but that's not the only thing on the ledger. people are looking at the middle east and frustrated and frightened by what they're seeing. his numbers on foreign policy have been declining and that pulls the overall number down. this matters in 2008 two-thirds of the people who disapproved of bush on his way out the door voted for obama. in 2000 88% of the people who disapproved of clinton voted for george bush. so in all of these cases his approval is a big factor in 2016 and river point will matter in the ultimate resolution. >> gloria do you agree? >> i do and it will be interesting to watch hillary clinton and you cover hillary clinton. how she distances herself from the president, whether it's on foreign policy. which she's already done on syria. whether it's on economic decisions, whether it's on trade for
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it's another issue that we'll be looking at her closely. obviously the question is hillary clinton going to be seen if she's the nominee as a third term of the president. and if his did thatsapproval rating is high that's a problem. >> you've heard from her team how they will play off the obama factor going into another campaign season. >> but the tricky thing for hillary clinton is that you look at where she has pus herself on certain positions so fayr. criminal justice reform immigration. but in the same direction that president obama has gone. so we're going to see her try to find subtle ways to distance herself but when she's done that before like on syria, she gets into a position where she's almost apologizing because she does not want to upset that obama coalition. >> she's looking to mobilize the same coalition.
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you can see that in their announce video. it was really that vision of the changing america, democrats are now relying on. >> and she's going for his coalition much more than she's going for the one that she tried to -- >> there are now ten republicans officially in the race. >> is that all? >> jeb bush will announce a week from monday on january 15. why has he waited this long? doctor didn't why didn't he do it a few months ago? >> you can spell came chink? everybody knows jeb bush is running. the rules are outdated.chink? everybody knows jeb bush is running. the rules are outdated. but without officially declaring, can he raise an awful lot of money for his political action committees. if he were to declare, and say i am a candidate, that coordinate would have to stop. he would have more limits on his fundraising. so they all play this game and it's a ridiculous game.
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>> all right, guys. we'll continue to watch it. thanks very much. i want to show our viewers this picture coming in this is of the train collision outside of chicago about an hour or so outside of chicago. this is in wilmington illinois. you see half of the truck on one side the other half on the other side. this amtrak train, amtrak 22 it's now stopped obviously en route from san antonio to chicago. crashed into this truck. you see both sides there. no serious injuries we're told. but we don't know the condition of the truck driver. we'll check that. we know there are more than 200 passengers on board, all of them are no longer on board. we'll see what happens. we'll take a quick break. doesn't it seem like the wireless world today could use a smile? at cricket wireless, we think so. that's why prices for our plans are all in
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more gut wrenching good-byes to joe biden's son beau after his death at age 46. he will be laid to rest tomorrow. president obama will deliver the eulogy. he will also try to offer some comfort to a family that has endured unspeakable heartbreak. we go to wilmington where a public viewing is understand
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way. tell our viewer what is is happening right now. >> reporter: well, wolf thousands of people have come out today. shall some waited up to fire hourve hours to get inside. we're told that the vice president has been standing right at the front of the church greeting each person as they come by his son's casket shaking their hand thanking them for coming. one woman telling me that the vice president even apologized to her for how long she had to wait to see the casket. the country of course hasn't gone through something like this in quite some time. seeing an active vice president grieving so publicly visibly shaken at times. the vice president has been. and the morning will continue tomorrow first family former president bill clinton, secretary of state hillary clinton, they will all be out here to see the eulogy by president obama. and wolf i'm told by a white
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house official that the president has been taking a very personal role in the writing of those remarks. >> i'm sure he has. because beau biden was simply a great guy, iraq war veteran, attorney general. he was well on his way where you are in delaware to becoming potentially the governor of delaware. a huge future. a great guy. people on the streets, and i they you've been speaking to them they're obviously very upset because a lot of them knew him. >> reporter: i was surprised by how many in the community did know him and felt a personal connection to the family. many waiting if line spoke about personal memories they have had, conversations they have had with the bidens over the years. they have been such a part of this community. a part of the fabric of this community. and that's why i think we've seen so many people and thousands of newspapersumbers not only come out today, but yesterday.
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>> our deepest condolences to the entire family. beau biden only 46 years old. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. erin burnett out front starts right now. breaking news on this friday. accusations that dennis hastert abused three victims during his time as a boys high school wrestling coach. will more come forward. plus the obama administration scrambling to grasp the making any tud of what could be the biggest hack ever of the u.s. government. are the lives of american undercover agents around the world at risk. and outfront investigation tonight, the tsa wasting billions of your money on useless equipment and bad training. the numbers are staggering. let's go outfront. public. g
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