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closeted trump voters? he has been caught for many in the campaign with the claim of elizabeth warren's heritage may have some validity. and what about this rendition of the star spangled banner in? star swain is here. ♪ and the home of the brave but first the fbi investigation of the clinton e-mails has been hanging over her candidacy for months and the final interview the one they will do with secretary clinton herself, and it might affect the campaign and her chances for president and what are the chances that the investigation ends in abindictment? joining me with this and other topics is van jones and ka e

trina pearson, and, van a hard time of convincing me that the bill clinton knocked on the plane door of loretta the lynch and what bad judgment in approaching her in phoenix. >> well, it is an unforced error on top of the unforced error on top of an unforced error. the entire situation the server is so frustrating for us to have to deal with us, because it is a huge distraction, and frankly hillary clinton the's record is so strong and the support among the democrats is so strong that we now have to talk about the side issues, and i will say that if anybody knows anything about attorney general lynch, the idea that she was somehow going to be swayed by a bill clinton, and it is just completely ludicrous, but it never ever should have had that meeting. she is tough as nails. >> and to your point, it puts her in a horrible position, and put her in a horrible position, because what is she supposed to do and he is literally knocking on the door and you are supposed to say to the former president,

no, i will not allow you to come in. >> right. >> so, anyway, so i think that at the end of the day, this is going to be a snowflake, a soap bubble, and a story that will go away, but it is adding to the impression that there is something here when there is not. and the reality is that there is a long standing relationship that goes back and has nothing to do with hillary clinton or the server or the campaignk and i can understand how you make those mistakes, but they have to stop making mistake like that, because it is just ammunition to the other side. >> and to that point, van, should there be no indictment at the end of the road of this investigation? it plays right into donald trump's hands and those of his supporters insofar as they would say, of course, there is not an indictment, and the fix is in since they met on the tarmac in phoenix. >> well, first of all, i will tell you this, that the career prosecutors, now for frankly, for fear and terror for all democr democrats, but the career

prosecutors at the d.o.j. level, they are insulate and double insulate and triple insulated from politics. that is the way it works. and especially the department of justice of all of them has more independence than anybody else, and those career civil servants have more independence than anybody else, and if they come back with the indictment, it is because it is real, and if they don't, it is because it is real. >> and katrina to, the point that when asked in aspen, loretta lynch said i will not change the outcome, and whatever the recommendation is from staff i will honor it. is that good enough for you? >> well, i'll say that i will make history, michael and agree with van jones on one thing that this does look really bad, and no, i don't think that it is going to be sufficient, simply, because to van jones' point there is a relationship between bill clinton and loretta lynch prior to this happening which makes it worse mainly because we now have a pattern of government agencies that have been corrupt to the core from targeting christians and conservatives all of the way down the scrubbing

jihadi references and other references from day and the ta fbi for crying out loud and so, no, it is not going to be boding well for them, and this is not going to be going away with the e-mail scandal, and the clinton foundation, bill clinton himself could be under investigation. >> and van, respond to what katrina said. >> well, first of all, i appreciate your agreeing with me, but i will try to return the favor, but some of these things that are almost lore or mythological ledgend on the rigt are not factually sound. for instance, i will talk about this personally, the myth that the irs went after the tea party and discriminating against the t tea party, and guess what, i am not a tea party member, and had 503 c denied for the same reason that the tea parties did, and

they cracked down across the board and the tea party screamed an yelled and these myths that you change up a press release -- >> van, van, did they ask you for the books that you were reading or the copies of the prayers or ask you for any of that? >> no, it is worse than that, and they did not ask me for very much and just denied the thing outright, because they said that our organization is too political to be a c-3, and so my point is that lots of people have problems with the government, and it does not have to be turned into the political thing except for in this era to stop hillary clinton and you come up with the conspiracy stuff. >> and the problem is -- >> katrina, the questions of honest and trustworthiness, and this is only going to fuel the speculation of those inclined to support trump that she can't be trusted. >> well, that is the point. and this is going to go to further show that this is political. we have the state department that literally lied about the attack on benghazi and then

tried to cover it up by blaming a youtube video, and so this is not one thing that has occurred since obama has been in office with regard to hillary clinton for crying out loud. and again, we are still talking about the e-mail server and the clinton foundation where it looks as if millions of dollas s were paid to bill clinton while hillary clinton wask is tear of state, and favors were returned like a uranium deal that went to russia or the swiss banks getting out of the tax evasion investigation. >> and van, isn't this a rorschach test, and everybody's views are just reinforce and views are not changed? it could be and could i say one kind thing about the clinton foundation, because it is becoming like a right wing talking point. and the clinton foundation has done more good than probably any organization that i can easily name. it is remarkable to me, and i have been to some of the meetings and you will get these

groups from third world countries with every problem in the world, an bill clinton brings out the philanthropists, and the groups go home with support. that is laudable. i have much more proud praise for what bill clinton has done than what former president george bush has done. and so the fact that he has saved millions of lives around the world with that dadgum th g thing. >> and i have read darren pharynholt's work this week in the washington post on the charitable offerings from your candidate which is not so much. >> and i will tell you that donald trump is not taking in millions of dollars of hostile nations of people who want to behead christians worldwide, and suppressing women and executing day gays in public, and that is go ing to be the difference in november. >> van, final word. make it quick.

>> i can't even respond to all of the things that were just said, and i hope that americans can see through some of the errors and the silly thing, and if you are in public life long enough, you will do some silly things, but the clintons have done many good things for america, and i hope people remember that in november. >> and does it speak for a larger pattern from both of the clintons that have prevented hillary clinton from being fully embraced as a column. and in the new daily beast article is jeff greenfield, a former political analyst, and multi award winner for cbs and nbc and you wrote that he is absolutely sure that there is nothing wrong with that kind of encounter, and so what would he make of the criticism? >> well, he'd make it what they generally make of the criticism, and these are people opposed to all of the good things that he

wants to do, and they have a political agenda, and they are making a mountain out of the mole hill, and my point of this is that anybody else faced with the situation would have thought, wait a second, i can't go to have a private meeting with the attorney general, and she is in charge of the department that is looking into my wife's behavior with her serv server, and my belief that goes back decades is that the clintons behave the way they do in part because they know in their own minds that they are on the side of the angels, and therefore the people opposing them are on the side of the not angels, and what they do however sketchy it may seem to some is all in the purpose of the greater good, and that explains to me a lot of what in other people would be, and what sounds to me like tone deaf behavior all through their political career. >> here is a quote from the piece, and i will put it up on the screen, it really does appear that both clintons regard

themselves as so removed from are the grubby motives that tempt lesser mortals that they are to be judged by a wholly different set of standards, and in coming to that language in the piece, you articulated and i identified instances in the past where there are lapses of judgment, and it brings you to that conclusion? >> yeah, and it is not just lapses in judgment, but i was struck a few months ago when terry gross of npr's "fresh air" was asking hillary clinton about her change of gay marriage, and clinton got testy and defensive of the thought that even this could have been out of political calculation, and i would not find it disabling if she like the great majority of most politicians changed her views to her political benefit, but it struck me that she was acting like, how could you possibly think that about me. you look at what she said about gay marriage when most of the country was against it, and it is very, very strong language,

and this is the bedrock of the foundational institution, and instead of just saying, well, i changed my mind, and there was a pushback and again, it struck me as, no, i'm hillary clinton, and it is the same thing if i can go one step further in the impeachment when bill clinton compared himself to rubishov from "darkness at noon" the bolshevik who is executed by stallinist terror, and he says, i feel like i'm in a nightmare and they are telling lies about me, and he acknowledged it is bill clinton who was disassembling the lie, but as he could see himself as a tragic figure in the novel when it was a rather, what is the right word i should say a tawdry episode at best in misbehavior is another example. i just think that there is something about them that maybe it is the early involvement in

progressive causes that has given them the belief that no matter what they do, it is not to be question ed. >> the piece is insightful, and congratulations for writing it. >> i appreciate it. >> thank you, jeff greenfield. still to come with the convention conventions around the corner, the vp picks are down the wire, and the latest rumors have people thinking of newt gingrich and chris christie, and would either make sense? i will ask pat buchanan about that and more, and some big gop will not be at the convention. and is part of the election part of the unreliability because some of us are embarrassed to tell a pollster for whom they intend to vote. you don't let anything keep you sidelined.

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general election. former presidential contender pat buchanan joins me now. patrick, have you been invited to speak at the rnc? >> no, i have not, and i'm not sure i am going out there quite frankly, michael. but what you have described the reason that all of the elites and the leadership of the party and the old leadership of the party not showing up is because donald trump, the nominee, is condublgti -- is conducting an insurrection against the people in trade and immigration and policy. >> so you are saying that it is a good thing that the past two republican presidents and the republican standard bearers won't be there? >> i am not saying it is good or bad but i understand it. if donald trump wins the election, he is taking the country in a different world and he is running insurrection against the political elites in washington, d.c., and running an insurrection against the

republican elites, and he has succeeded, and it issette know economic national vichlism, and that is not the defining philosophy of the incumbent political party of mitt romney and paul ryan. >> and after one of your appearances here on cnn, trump himself tweeted congratulations. so if he asks pat buchanan, would you speak in cleveland? >> i don't expect any requests to come the speak, but i think that donald trump should speak what he believes and he knows what i believe. >> i ask that question, because you are a culture war speech from 1992 remains infamous or famous to some, and i went to reread the transcript, and this is a paragraph that maybe stands the test of time. >> the agenda that clinton and clinton would impose on america, abortion on demand, a litmus test for the supreme court, homosexual rights, and

discrimination in schools, and women in combat, and that is change all right, but it is not the change that america needs and not the change that america wants. >> does that paragraph stand the test of time? >> yes, there is a cultural war going on in the country, and at root is a religious war of what we believe, but no doubt, the left and the radicals have made extraordinary gains towards a victory in that war with the majority of the america's young, and significant slice of the american population, but that culture war, and the phrase that, and i was denounced for the phrase but it has been used in 100 books, everybody knows that we have a cultural kampf go going on in the country. >> and who should he select for vice president, somebody on the right or the left? >> as i said, he is conducting

an insurrection and so when you doing something like that, you don't look for the moderate ticket to make us look good on capitol hill, you go all-in, and if he picked a chris christie or a newt gingrich, he is saying to hillary rodham clinton and elizabeth warren, let's get it on, you are over here, and we are over hereer, and let's get it ob and let the american people decide which way to go, and you will have real political clarity. >> it is not a battle for the 42% that are the eyes and not affixed to either end of the political spectrum. >> both parties, michael, they have about 40 to 42% that they will get it, each party, and you are doing a battle for the 16 or the 18%. i think that one of the major things that is in the hearts and minds of those folks is that we have had it with the political media corp can rat elite in the nation's capital, and let's go for somebody who will really give us real change, and even

though i have doubts about this fellow trump, i think that he will do that. >> and all right. speaking of the doubts about this fellow trump, i want to show you a headline which is the most provocative headline of the week in the washington post. i hate donald trump, it reads, but he might get my vote. it is a first person essay by a retired financial adviser named jim ruth and it got a huge reak sh reacti reaction, pat, and had a lot of callers on the sirius xm radio who says this guy speaks for me. this is one paragraph, why would rational affluent individuals think of voting for the donald, and still not voting at all which is an option, but he is the only one who wants to pre r preserve the american way of life as we know it. pat, those are fighting words to some, because they hear those words and they say, that is a preservation of the white america that this guy is talking abou about. >> and there is nothing wrong with the country i grew up in, michael, and it had some things wrong on the civil rights and

things like that, but it is a good country, and what these follows see and i am seeing is that we are losing the best of the country that we grew up in, and the government here in washington is a, incompetent, and the b, the system is rigged, and are c, pulled away from the ep is ter, and i can understand entirely what that fellow is saying, because there is a lot of people i run into, and grew up that feel exactly the same way, i don't know about the fellow trump, but i will vote for him. >> and i just had the k conversation at dinner thursday night with my father and he smaking the same points that you are, and it was me saying, dad, you are not recognizing the advancement and the good things taking place around us, and we are fortunate to be in the country in 2016 and still the greatest can country on the face of the earth. >> look, we are growing -- and the growth rate, and what, 1% in the first quarter of this year, and you have the nation divided as it has never been divided and words like racist, sexist, homophobe, and everyday and every way on every tv set, and

people are calling themselves names, and in that sense we are not one people and one nation the way that we were in 1960 under eisenhower, and when we were making progress in some of the things that concern you, and soy see it and you will see the country abroad and we have gotten into all of the wars in the middle east, and you can see the trade deficit, and you can see all of the -- and you know the place in pennsylvania, that is the manessen, and -- >> sure you grew up there. >> and yes, it is where the place was booming in steel and world war ii, and my wife, shelly, from downtown detroit and her daddy went to war and this is the city that built up america to win that war, and look at detroit and here she ma today, and you will see a change, but it is not the better. >> and patrick, it is the nation's birthday this weekend and it is still no better place

to be than here, and this is the only acknowledgmentt i need from you. >> and it is the greatest country in the world, and it can be made greater still. >> thank you, pat buchanan. >> thank you, michael. >> and there is another paragraph that says come november 8th, you will see some of us sheepishly sneaking into the voting booths across the united states. and that brings me to polls, and everybody loves the quote the polls especially here at cnn, but this election season is showing them to be off and not just wrong, but dead wrong on both sides of the aisle. and nate silver the poll guru who had krcrunched the numbers successfully last august put tru trump's chances of getting the gop nomination at 2%, and recently as january he said at most 12 to 13% which means i'm in good company, and yet, we are cling ing ing to the polls, and are told this week that hillary clinton will trounce donald trump in november, but as i said, these numbers are way off

until after the conventions and indeed up to election day, and the pressing question is the pollsters still missing huge swathes of the electorate to show up and maybe vote for donald trump? joining me is republican pollster and strategist ed goist and adam goodman, and ed, why is donald trump such a difficult figure tole poll on? >> well, i don't think that he is. i don't know if i agree with the premise. what you have in a lot of the polling today is that there is methological differences, and there are sampling difference, and a carryover from the 2012 campaign when many of the public polls were trying to pull a sample or weight a sample to what they thought that the electorate would be as opposed to sitting back to using the methodology to get to the right place, but i see no indication in the polls that they are miss missing anything in terms of the trump voters. it is one poll that the clinton was leading by 12 points, and

another poll had trump leading by 4. nothing happened to change the polls, but they are approached in a different way, and they will get closer to the campaign. >> but they can't all be right, adam. something is going on the cause a disparity. >> and addressing the polls, the washington post had a systemple that had democrats and oversample of republicans by 12 point, and so it is going to be 4 to 5 and it is bad sample. so that is part of this. and i believe what is going on, and michael, and this is going to be just different is that more americans than ever have seen behind the curtain. they have seen how the process works, and they are kind of upset about it. and it is referendum on the system, and we have two candidates with clearly high negatives and if you were to have a popularity contest, ed goas is going to be elected. so you want to take someone who is going to be taking a system

that is breaking it down, and the polls are showing 2 to 1 that americans are thinking that we are moving in the wrong direction, and at the end of the day, and in the quiet of thele ballot box or the voting booth or the absentee that you will be filling out at home, in that quiet moment that hidden moment, a lot of people are going to be weighing n and this is what they are going to be weighing in on, and i believe that donald trump at the end of the game, if he is close to hillary clinton is going to be right where he needs to be to win. >> and ed, adam has written on the subject of the -- i don't believe he called it this, but i will, the reverse bradley factor and he made reference to a campaign in which i worked the rizzo campaign in 1987, and no doubt about it, because frank rizzo would outperform the polls presumably because people were embarrassed to tell a stranger who called their kitchen that i am going to be voting for riz e ceo, and is the same thing happening with trump? >> no, look, everybody is looking for the nuances and the movement, and the fact of the matter is that the campaign started a year ago with both of

the nominees with over, or at a 55% unfavorable rating and then after a year of campaigning they are both hovering at 55% to 60% unfavorable, and not only that, but 80% of the electorate is having strong feelings favorable or unfavorable on both of the candidates and these numbers are baked in. everybody is looking for the big nuanced jumps, and this is in fact going to be a campaign of inches, and if you are looking at the segmentation of the data only 3% of the country liked both candidates and 26% of the country disliked both candidates. so there is going to be the voters voting on election day and not that they are hiding the vote, but they are trying to come to the conclusion of which person do i dislike the most. that is what you will see with the undecided or the soft vote going into the election, but when i look at the data, i agree with adam. there is absolutely nothing in the data that shows that trump

can't win this election. he has some pluses, and minuses, and hillary has some pluses and minuses, and both of them have huge minuses, and at the end of the day with this campaign, it is going to come down to who do they perhaps dislike the most as opposed to who do they like the most. >> and adam, the final word. i would typically say, maybe we should follow the money and follow the lead of the book is can, except they didn't do so well with brexit. >> right. they were pretty off. and michael, as an alum of the frank rizzo club and you lived through the campaign as we all did and he won that campaign at the end, because he said, you and your family will be safe again, and it is the one thing that in the cool of night that brought him to victory and i believe that this campaign in the cool of night after what we will see in terms of the debates which is going to be like super bowl epic contests to have a break in this field in the polls, and they are going to go for what they feel is necessary to get this country back on its feet again, and working again,

and that is where i believe that if he is close, donald trump is going to be pulling a frank rizzo, and become president of the united states. >> adam and ed, thank you, both. i wish i had more time. the war on poke hcahontas, might he be right? >> well, she is the worst. she is not right. and you know, pocahontas, and i'm doing such a disservice to pocahontas, and sit is so unfai to her.

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donald trump continues to go after elizabeth warren for her claims of native american heritage and he has repeatedly called her polka hcahontas and wednesday at a trump rally in maine, one of the supporters mocked her by giving trump a native american war cry. this is what i found in 1994 warren was recognized as a distinguished faculty member at my alma mater the university of pennsylvania law school, and her recognition was listed in the penn equity committee's 2005

report and eight names are listed in bold meaning minority status, and three are african-american, and one is asian and three puerto rican and warren. additionally from 1996 to 2005, she listed herself as a minority in the association of law school minority, and she only removed her minority label after harvard hired her, and still at harvard the school paper noted that the conventional wisdom is that the law school fac ulty includes no minority women, professor elizabeth warren is native american, and though she ip cysts that she never capitalized on it, she has never substantiated her claim. this week, a native american writer took her to task for this and more, and h a piece called "elizabeth warren should apologize to native americans." and so joining us is the simon

lako k moya-smith of the lakotas. >> well, because she has high cheekbones, that is stereotype and not a fact. and when there is decency and concern for the neighbor, she needs to apologize for that, because we know that the country was not built on decency and concern for the neighbor. >> and you said in the essay she has played the indian card for decades and avoided the communit community, and how has she played the card beyond what i offered and how has she avoided your community? >> well, she has not been involved. nobody knows where she ist, and she plays the card by saying that she is native american, and then disappeared and we want to know why she is not involved in the community she claims to be a

part of, and that is problematic, because she is addressing trump for his poor business record, and calling him a loser, and so we are made into political fodder, and she is not saying anything about it, and she has a history to be native american, but nowhere to be found. >> something that you wrote that i want to put on the screen and ask you about it, and yet warren continues to perpetuate a false reality of who native americans are today and while in turn inadvertently or not encouraging the claims of millions of convenient indians who self-identify as native american for their own gain. is that someone who she is, a convenient indian who has self-identified for her own gain. >> well, she is claiming to be native americans, and not addressing the issue, and nothing for fact that the native americans are statistically more likely to be killed by police, and i don't hear her talking about the domestic violence of native american women 3.5 times

more than any other democratic, so we don't know where she is. she is using the heritage, and we are left to pick the fights and left to tell people, you know, you cannot mock us that way, and that war cry, that is racist, and even though people do it at the baseball games and the football games, it is racist, and she is not addressing those. >> and simon, how about the way in which donald trump is using this issue against her and like pocahont pocahontas. >> it is a pejorative and that is racist, and obviously, he is a troll, and he has a documented history of attacking native american, and so we expect it from him, and we wonder where she is at in this situation and why she does not recognize the indigenous people here and why does she attack just the business record and not the racism against us, the american native. >> and so he is a troll, and she is playing the indian card without being a full member of

the community and that is your beef? >> and she perpetuates the stereotypes of the high cheekbones and she is the patron saint of the wannabe, and there are millions of people who want to be native american to get to school for free or get casino money, and she has an opportunity to make it a teachable moment, but she does n not. >> simon, you an equal opportunity offender, and this is a good thing this my book. >> thank you. >> and so, she took the internet by storm, and she is here, and i intend to ask her to sing. ♪ for the land of the free ♪ and the home of the brave enormous shockwaves from britain's historic vote to

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for this fourth of july weekend, nothing has moved me more than this story. lincoln memorial, and people of all backgrounds roaming around and taking in the scene, and then one tourist, an assistant principal from tallahassee is encouraged to sing the national anthem. listen to this. >> i don't want too much attention. >> no, don't you do it. let the music speak.

>> and kids, y'all stand over there and don't get in the way. ♪ o say, can you see by the dawn's early light ♪ ♪ what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming? ♪ ♪ whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight ♪ ♪ o'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming? ♪ ♪ and the rockets' red glare the bombs bursting in air ♪

♪ gave proof through the night that our flag was still there ♪ ♪ oh, say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave ♪ ♪ o'er the land of the free ♪ ♪ and the home of the brave? ♪ [ applause ] so the clip has become an instant internet sensation, and more than 15 million views on

facebook and joining me now is star swain, and you were named correctly star swain, and holy smokes. i would say where did you learn to sing like that, and you are bless and you have a gift, right? >> yes, yes indeed a gift. >> and where have you sung before? >> oh, my, i have sung so many different places, and i did a whole lot of singing with the marching 100 when i was with the band in college and that afforded me the opportunity to sing in front of thousands, but never millions of people. >> you sing in church? >> i do. i do. i sing in church all of the time, and that is something that i have been doing for a long time since i was a kid. >> i love the voice and i'm paying attention to what i am hearing, but also, because i have watched it five times. >> oh. >> and of the 15 million, five of them are mine. >> oh. >> and i'm taking note of the people in the audience, because it is kind of cool to see, initially, it is like, what is going on over here, and it is wow, where is this going, and by the the end of it, and so were you aware of that while you were singing? >> i wasn't, because i was kind of in my own world at that

moment when i closed my eyes and i have to go somewhere else to keep me, you know, in the groove and not get too nervous, so i didn't know really what was going on with the people. >> and at the moment when you are then finished you must know, hey, i got their attention and this is what i want to know, when did it hit you that all of the sudden, you are a youtube facebook sensation? >> i don't even know that it has still hit me, because it is kind of an outer body experience. i can't really believe it. it is like the dream, and pinch me, because i know that it is re real. >> you are to a a assistant principal and you came up from florida after the kids went hom home. >> yes. >> and has it occurred to you when you go back to tallahassee and everybody is talking about what they did on the summer vacation, star swain has a cool story. >> that, toy. >> and in new york city, you have a lot of options, and i'm thinking the statue of liberty and the memorial to the 9/11

victims, and where might you pop up next? >> well, i can see a tour though, and you can come to my hometown in philly and show up at the independence hall or lib liber ti bell, and this is your thing. >> that is wonderful actually and i would love to do that. >> am i embarrassing you if you would please indulge us with the portion, because it is a holiday weekend, and it is the birth of the country, and this is only the cnn newsroom. can you dig deep and do the final portion? >> yes, sir, i can. ♪ o say, does that star spangled banner yet wave ♪ o'er the land

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if the 2016 presidential campaign were a movie, it would surely be the 1976 oscar winner network. you remember? the newscaster pleads to his viewers to go to the window and yell i'm mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. and they obey. reports of that anger have dominated this cycle. i googled angry and republicans i got more than 45.6 million hits and another 20 million if you google angry democrats, the callers to my radio show are

rarely angry. 68% describe themselves as hopeful not angry. my anecdotal data and unscientific survey is backed up by one of the longest running measures of american's views on the economy. the index of consumer sentiment which found by the end of last year, people were nearly as upbeat about the economy as they were at the end of 1983 when ronald reagan was president and it was morning again in america. why the disconnect? i would argue that it's the outsized influence of the passionate people. and what they exert on our political process. those who are most participatatory versus the rest of the nation. passion is always strongest at the extremes of the political spectrum. it's where you find the activists, the most reliable voters. the people who put up the yard signs, hang a bumper sticker, write the checks. i believe the loud voices of those who are angry have muted too many of the rest of us. and that's because we let them.

but i also believe there's a new silent majority in the nation. they are neither tea party activists or millennials feeling the bern. they are tens of millions of americans that are not angry but remaining silent. they're remaining silent is by not voting. that's a huge problem. the iowa caucus, when all was said and done, only 20% of the people who voted in the general election in 2012. they were a smaller percentage of the total eligible voters. the highly motivated voters d demdominated the process. whether there are enough angry voters to win the white house it's another story. it depends on whether we let them. general election voters tend to be more racially and ethnicically diverse, more female more young. perception in politics can become reality. if coverage continues to highlight views of the angriest among us, portray them as being

more omnipotent than they are, less passionate people may stay home. overall participation, fairly drawn financial districts. campaign finance reform. expand the debate participation to allow third party independents. most of all we need to recognize that entertainment choices have consequences. more of us need to stop conflating our news and entertainment choices and differentiate between information and blather. and we need to hurry. do you remember when network anchor howard beal asked americans to shout outside that they were mad as hell and many followed? it's time for the rest of us to close our windows. that's it for this week's show. have great holiday weekend. follow me on twitter @smur conish i'll see you next week. get ready for the rio olympic games

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