air force one, but the washington post got the specs to prove donald wrong. pants on fire, better pants than an engine. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. there you so much for joining us. "a.c. 360" starts now. good evening. thanks for joining us it's exactly nine weeks before the presidential election. there will be a face-off the likes of which this country has never seen and in a cnn/orc poll shows hillary clinton and donald trump are in a virtual tie. we'll have more in a moment. trump's change to immigration and where he stands now and the keystone of his campaign even matters it his supporters. we begin tonight though with both candidates and now inviting voters on to their respective planes and trump just wrapped up a rally and sarah murray was there. what did trump say to his supporters tonight? >> anderson, trump really laid

out what sounded a lot like what was a traditional 100-day plan talking about how he was going to build the wall along the southern border and talking about wanting to repeal obamacare and he's been hitting this national security theme today and he continued to do it in north carolina and his plans about dealing with isis. >> so we are going to convene my top generals and give him a simple instruction. they will have 30 days to submit to the oval office, a plan, for soundly and quickly defeating isis. >> we have no choice. now in addition to this, trump said that the u.s. would work hand in hand if he were in any nation, and earlier today he wanted to work more closely with rush a for instance. anderson? >> he used the speech to go after hillary clinton for her e-mails and the fbi report, right? >> yeah. absolutely. he was laying into her this evening more harshly than we've

heard him before and essentially saying the way she handled her private e-mail server and he called out some of her behavior like destroying phones and wiping her e-mails. he called it shady behavior and compared it to the behavior of a criminal. >> all right. sara murray, thanks very much. we now go to tamtampa, flor, where hillary clinton and she took questions from reporters. joe johns joins me now. if the leigh talk about taking questions today and yesterday, and the fact that it's even a story it's something that reporters had to say for months. what did she have to say? >> it's a tradition and it goes back years and years and years, quite frankly. she used a second opportunity to talk to reporters where she felt as though she was treated unfairly and also to launch some

attacks on donald trump and she talked about the scams, and the questionable relationships and she touched on a public reports that the donation from the trump foundation to the florida attorney general. she also once again weighed into the issue of donald trump not releasing his tax returns. here's what she said about that. >> he said that the american people don't care about his tax returns. and, in fact, he's also said that it's none of our business. i just think he's dead wrong. i'm going to continue to raise this because i think it is a fundamental issue about him in this campaign that we're going to talk about in one way or another for the next 62 days because he clearly has something to hide. >> and as far as the controversies that have

surrounded her and her campaign this year and even before that, hillary clinton said her political enemies and her opponents are going to continue to go after her essentially because that's what they do, anderson. >> clinton and trump had she was speaking in tampa earlier, what did she talk about there? >> well, i think the first thing you have to say about that is we'll hear more in the coming days because this is the run-up to the anniversary of september 11th. mrs. clinton will not be on the campaign trail on that day, on sunday and neither will donald trump. she talked extensively about national security on this trip to tampa as she pushed hard on the issue of veterans suggesting that donald trump has taken positions over the last several years that we're always opposed to veterans' interests, and took a hard line on that. clearly, mrs. clinton trying to flip the narrative on trust that has dogged her throughout the campaign and questioned donald trump on his vulnerabilities,

anderson. >> i also understand she'll have new faces stumping for her on the trail. that's right. a lot of surrogates out here and probably the most important ones we will start seeing very soon will be michelle obama and the first lady and she'll be going to virginia the next week as well as massachusetts senator, elizabeth warren and she'll be in philadelphia on saturday and more surrogates on the trail and another indication that the tempo is beginning to pick up now that we've gone past labor day. >> joe johns, thanks. it would be a challenge to find two candidates more different than hillary clinton and donald trump which makes it all the more interesting two month away from the election and they're essentially tied in a new orc poll and inside politics anchor john king is here to break it down by the numbers and the new poll is a stark difference from the last national poll which had clinton leading by eight points. >> it is, anderson. causing a lot of buzz and eye

rolls, as well. let's look at the likely voters and our likely voters has trump ahead, 45-43 and it's a very first national poll to show trump ahead. donald tru donald trump bragged about this today. his own pollsters are telling mr. trump that their numbers show secretary clinton has a small national lead. the clinton campaign says the same thing. let's watch in the days ahead and whether there is a shift for trump, and there is no doubt, no doubt that the race is tightening in part because secretary clinton, anderson has lost her post-convention glow. now she has a three-point lead among registered voters and there is a debate going on between the likely voter screen and no question if you look deep into the data this race is tightening and maybe trump is on top a little and maybe clinton is on top a little, but it's lows. >> what's behind the drop for her? number one, on the big issues and coming out of the democratic

convention and secretary clinton looking at the economy and she had pulled in essentially a tie with donald trump on who would best handle the economy after trailing him for months on this big and defining question on this presidential race. she's well behind mr. trump again and maybe in part because she's been advertising on this issue in the last two weeks and what was we talking about last week, quite a bit? the sclint foundationdation? which candidate is more honest and trustworthy, but by eight points it's a 15-point gap now. this trustworthiness and personal character questions is still i problem. >> one of the post-convention headlines is they were leading independents and romney won on election day. >> she has not and we talked about that after the convention if she was going to lead among independents she would win. romney won that group by five points. among likely voters and this is the part of the poll that's

controversial, trump has a 20-point lead among independents. if you look at registered voters it's an eight-point lead, and if you just focus the registered voters part of this, and we'll see if recall polls back us up on the likely voters and if you focus the registered post-convention, clinton had a tie, 21-23, and now she's eight points down. we know independents don't love either of these candidates and they've been swinging back and forth and at the moment they're turning back to trump. >> john king, thank you. we'll hear more from john and plus what the panel has to say on this latest polling next. trump reaching out to african-american voters and for the first time he went to an african-american church over the weekend and polling at 1% to 2% support among african-americans and can he possibly improve that? we'll take a look. also coming up, big news over former fox news head roger ailes and the anchor woman who sued roger ailes over sexual harassment and the details and the fallout when we continue. tomorrow is not a given.

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the big news tonight among other things new cnn/orc poll shows donald trump and hillary clinton in a statistical tie. is leading in almost all battleground states and a lot to talk about, joining me is cnn anchor john king and usa columnist kristen powers and dana bash, chief political analyst gloria borger and jeffrey lord, and democratic strategist maria cardona who was i senior adviser to the clinton campaign in 2008, former

congressman and senior adviser to the trump campaign, and retired army lieutenant general mark hartling. gloria, what do you make of the national numbers? what it boils down is the battleground states and still, better to be where trump is right now in this than where he was. >> in the beginning of august. look, i think that the race is clearly shifting in his direction and he seems to have cut her lead in half if we think the polling is accurate. there are undecided voters, but some polls as much as 20% undecided voters. it's a volatile race at this point. you have undecideds, and you have a third-party candidate and swing states tend to move, and continue to move in one's direction, i think you would have swing states moving and then we would be talking serious stuff here.

we don't see that yet, but if you had a few more points. a 20-point lead for trump among independents. that's nothing to sneeze at, no question. another way to answer your question of what we think of the poll is to see what hillary clinton has done for the past two days and maybe not with this particular poll, but clearly what they are seeing -- >> talking to reporters. >> internally, she's changed dramatically and it is post-labor day and time to get real, but it's also because donald trump has for the past two and a half weeks has stopped being the gift that keeps on giving to her and she's got to get out there and sort of make some hay about him which he has done finally by talking to reporters and using that effectively. she's been essentially off the public trail raising tons of money and fancy things for rich people, but this is the time she clearly wants to get back in front of the camera. >> also, during the time this poll was taken it was bad news

for her and she's not playing on the field and she's having bad news about her e-mails and the foundation and the two things that seem to feed into these trust numbers which are a problem for her. i think the other thing that has to be a concern is the enthusiasm gap which was astonishing and 55% of hillary clinton voters are less enthusiastic and 56% of trump voters are more enthusiastic. that is a huge gap. the trump campaign and our voters are enthusiastic ones and they're waiting for hours to get into the rallies and have been for months. >> i don't think there's any question his voters are coming and the democrats would concede this, that she does have a motivational issue after the fbi testimony. male latino numbers are down and among african-americans who were incredibly loyal to president obama and some said she's not barack obama and getting them to turnout to identify people and turn them out and they had the advantage of the president and the first lady being among the surrogates and trust me, it's not a coincidence where they're

going and i think what's fascinating, don't take one poll if you're a trump supporter and don't take this poll and go to vegas. if you're a clinton supporter don't take this and go to the bar. if she starts dropping down. forget the national number and if she starts dropping down to 45 in ohio and florida, it's hard to see trump getting 50 of these states and it's hard to see trump getting 48 in some of these states, bill clinton won the presidency, and if she starts dropping to 43, 44 in some of these battleground states donald trump can get 45. so that maybes ohio look different and it makes florida look different and he still has to turn a blue state each if he gets those three. the third-party candidates and gary johnson is drawing evenly if you look at the polls. everyone says he's drawing evenly and those are the republicans voting for gary johnson and a lot of them are never trump's and if they didn't have the option of voting for gary johnson. >> before i go over to the partisan's i want to bring in

general mark het hertling, and he would quickly defeat isis. from a military standpoint is that realistic and is that how it works to come up with that sort of of a plan even if one can inside of a month? >> i heard the simplistic orders that he gave in terms of giving 30 days to find a plan to soundly and decisively defeat isis. i had to ask myself, what the hell does he think we've been trying to do for the last 14 years in terms of al qaeda? it shows a complete lack of understanding of the threat and the ways to fight it. it's a sophomoric approach to elements of national security policy because if he's just calling in the military he's missing the point that there are several other elements of national security that will help defeat isis. there have been some very good advances made against this element of terrorism, and he might want to take a look at other countries in the way he fought terrorism and attempted to defeat them to include our

allies, israel. this is something that will go on for a very long time and this is a generational threat and you don't say beat it in 30 days because it's frankly, insulting to the individuals who have been attempting to put their -- all their strength on the line to defeat it over the last 16 years and there are a lot of military people who have been working very long to defeat this threat and ensure national security. >> jeffrey lord is trump supporter and what about general hertling's notion that implying that those who are fighting this aren't trying to beat them. >> the one thing i would point out all of these clips running around all of the time and i saw donald trump sitting with retired general flynn. you had so many military people coming out and endorsing him. i have to believe that now he is really talking to the generals. this is no longer his casual remark that he watches the shows. i thinkhe really is talking to these folks and he's getting

based on these conversations. >> what about the notion that clearly a lot of trump supporters believe that the military has one hand tied behind their back with what the campaign has talked about for months and leaflets are given to tell people to leave an area that there will be an attack as opposed to just going after truckloads of convoys and worrying about the drivers themselves. >> that's a bad narrative. i've heard it many times before. i don't see anyone, and i've talked to many of my colleagues on the battlefield. they're not claiming, the leaders aren't claiming that their hands are tied behind their back. they are going after these individuals with a vengeance, with special operations forces and with intelligence collection and truthfully to jeffrey lord's point, the 88 generals and admirals mostly admirals on that list who claim that they're supporting that now. i'm very surprised and i didn't recognize many of those names in

the fight with me over the last 16 years and there aren't a whole lot of names in the fight against al qaeda and several other forces and frankly, 88 generals and i would echo what many others have said is that all he can get because most of the names on that list are, frankly, navy admirals who have not been on the ground in this fight. >> general hertling, and hillary rosen as a clinton supporter, do you like what you see in terms of her coming out on the plane and talking to reporters and as reporters, we've been discussing clearly she's responding to that with the panel of these poll numbers. >> the fact that we're just seeing her more on tv is an important thing and that people are getting more of her engagement. she has been out there doing events every single day and talking to parents and talking to educators and talking to community leaders. so she has been there. it's just it hasn't been the kind of thing that the media has

tended to cover the way that they're covering trump's big rallies and even this afternoon. >> even this afternoon when hillary and trump ended up in dueling press conferences, all three networks turned away from hillary and went to the trump press conference. you know, she is out there answering questions. so i just don't buy that she's not accessible. having said that, look, he has been dominating the conversation for the last three weeks, and four weeks and it has helped her raise money, but it has not helped her in the national conversation. >> and what she needs to do now is be in the national conversation, frankly, in my view and not only talking about donald trump, you know? there's too much conversation about donald trump. the american people now need to hear a little more from hillary clinton about what she's going to be doing for them. >> congressman, one of the things she has been talking about is that they'll try to hit this every day and get this drumbeat going.

do you think that's something clearly trump supporters don't seem to care about and do you think that's something that can help clinton and hurt trump among independents? >> i really don't. one of the key findings is he is leading on the economy because he keeps -- >> economy and national security and comedy and terrorism and national security and he's been talking about jobs and he also has been going to the front of the action and went to milwaukee and went to baton rouge and went to mexico and he is raising money on martha's vineyard and that would have benefit to it and during that period of time he was showing leadership and to get an 11-point swing and the poll shows she's talking about issues as opposed to i got you on the tax returns because people on household income has fallen from 53,000 over a 15-year period of time and they're more concerned about their jobs and their future. >> maria, are you concerned about this poll or this swing? yes, let me put it this way, and

i have said this many times on your show, anderson, democrats have to wake up every morning and believe she's ten points behind because what has worried me about the recent polls where she is anywhere between eight and ten points ahead is that you get complacency from democrats and even complacency from those who cannot fathom donald trump being in the oval office because he says such outrageous things and they see these polls and they say there's no way that this man will ever get elected and i am glad that we're seeing these kinds of polls and this will put a fire under democrats who are concerned that there is a chance that this man can get into the oval office to make sure they can get out there and register and get out there and vote. >> jeff lord has been saying that from day one. >> not only was hillary clinton fund-raising and by the way, she raised, what? 123 million. she did very well, but there was the whole e-mail controversy which she was not out there addressing and donald trump was

talking about it so she created this vacuum into which donald trump just kind of ran and took over the narrative on that. now she's trying to get that and the scenario where the principles can get that attention and she's got to speak for herself and there is an important point and john will agree with me here. there are only two campaigns being run here and there is this national campaign where we have an 800-voter sample and all of that, but in the battleground states that matter, hillary clinton still is holding a significant lead. that's where she is talking to local press, local folks -- that's where she's leading. >> the congressman and then we have to go. >> i think the reality is -- >> she had a -- i will say, if they were swimming she'd put her foot in the water and she did not know how to swim. >>. >> it was from reporters. >> we'll talk more later in the program and a lot of ground to cover ahead including the private for profit university

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complaints about trump university while weighing whether to launch the investigation and her office decided not to pursue a case. trump said there was no quid pro quo. we'll have that in our next hour with the detailed look at that. they profited from the laureate international universities, like trump university it's a private for profit organization. our senior invest gaitive correspondent drew griffin looks into it. >> reporter: it's being called hillary's university problem. it's actually laureate international university's run and owned by a good friend of the clinton's. it's private, it's for-profit and the profits are huge. laureate operates mostly in latin america, has a million students worldwide and brings in revenues of more than $4 billion. >> it all started with a powerful mission. the mission of making quality, higher education accessible. >> its ceo, clinton pal doug becker made $2.4 million last

year alone. >> the network of laureate international universities has grown to more than 70 educational institutions across 29 countries. >> and laureate is not without its own problems and it has faced investigations in brazil over whether students were getting their money's worth and in chile concerning its for-profit status. u.s. students have complained. the school failed to deliver on its promised degree programs. >> three of the five schools and laureate operates in the u.s. under what the u.s. department of education calls heightened cash monitoring because of potential problems with its financial responsibility and the school told cnn it disagrees with the government's methodology. it would seem like the exact type of business hillary clinton might have a problem with. >> there are students who take out loans to pay for an expensive degree from a for-profit institution only to find little support once they

actually enroll or they graduate and discover that when it comes to getting the jobs they were promised, their degree is not worth what they thought. >> but you won't find hillary clinton saying one word about laureate university. while she was traveling the world as secretary, her husband was traveling the world and being paid a fortune as the honorary chancellor of laureate international universities. >> i traveled to 14 laureate universities in a dozen countries. >> bill clinton was paid $17.6 million from laureate from 2010 until 2015 when his contract was up and he stepped down. >> and i hope --? several weeks after secretary clinton announced her bid for president. >> such an honor to have him as our honorary chancellor, but what most people don't know is that started because of cgi. >> laureate with doug becker at the helm, not only paid bill

clinton $17.6 million, it has donated between 1 and 5 million to the clinton foundation and has partnered with the clinton global initiative since 2008, and all along the way, becker has contributed to democratic campaign funds including hillary clinton's. >> drew, that's a huge amount of money for an honorary chancellor. what exactly did bill clinton do for laureate international universities? >> according to the company, anderson, he was an adviser who he also visited 19 different campuses of the school, but it certainly could not have been full time. keep in mind, he was still giving speeches and still running the clinton foundation and believe it or not, he was getting paid a pretty big amount of money from another clinton foundation donor schools and called gems education, an international school system that operates very expensive k through 12 schools out of its headquarters in dubai. that company, anderson, was paying bill clinton $5.6 million

to help advise its charitable giving program all at the same time he was working for laureate. >> you said hillary clinton hasn't mentioned to this on the campaign trail. has the campaign reacted to your report? >> vehemently. the campaign sent out a position on for-profit schools. hillary clinton has made it clear that all for-profit institutions should be held to the same standards. it goes on to say that she will crack down on lawbreaking for profits by expanding support for federal regulators to enforce laws against deceptive fraud, marketing and other illegal practices. >> drew, thank you very much for being looking into it. i appreciate it. >> up next, fox apologizes and agrees to pay out a huge sum of money to settle sexual harassment claims against roger ailes. we'll have all of the details coming up. ♪

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welcome back. news of a stunning decision today. 21st century fox is apologizing and will pay $20 million in the settlement for former fox news anchor gretchen carlson. in july she sued accusing roger ailes of sexual harassment and retaliation. two weeks later ailes resigned

and now more than 20 women have spoken with attorneys for inappropriate actions by ailes. we sincerely apologize that gretchen was not treated with the respect and dignity that she and all of our colleagues deserve. >> roger stelter abrian stelter of reliable sources. it seems pretty unprecedented. >> it's almost unheard of in corporate america and they are few and far between. there are other settlements with other women who came forward alleging harassment by ailes and those were if are smaller sums of money, but taken together it shows that the murdoches who own fobbing news are trying eagerly to move on beyond this scandal and that's a lot easier said than done. >> bill, fox is part of the settlement making a public apology and part of this was

this public apology, i guess, is that unprecedented, as well? i can't remember something like that. >> i can't remember anything like that and it underscores the fact that they are conceding the point and what ailes has done with his denials is out the window. they're publicly acknowledging that she was treated with disrespect. >> brian, was there some reporting early on that roger ailes himself would be responsible for paying part of the settlement. is that actually true? because i've seen conflicting reports. >> we were told by sources close to the murdoches, she came out and said no, he is not paying a penny of this settlement. that's a sign that ailes is continuing to fight behind the scenes. even last week he retained another lawyer, a liable lawyer, the same one who took hulk hogan and who took gawker to court with hulk hogan. we'll see if ailes tries to sue news outlets in the future and behind the scenes still fighting and separately still advising

donald trump. >> it is interesting, bill, and raises questions, that the victim of harassment in this case is being given severance of 20 million while the perpetrator is walking away with $40 million. >> essentially, fox is paying $60 million to extricate themselves from thing liness of this man's behavior, but double to the guy who was the cause of the behavior according to this. >> he gets twice as much, but you wonder about the shareholders. will they ever step up and say what's going on here? i think it will be fascinating to see if ailes tries to sue because you would think that he would want to run away from anything from discovery of what was going on in his business. you would think he didn't want anything to do with that. >> this is a significant victory for carlson and for other women that were harassed in workplaces around this country. usually it's the he said/she

said, and in this case, carlson is the symbol. and she's not doing tv appearances and writing a book, perhaps and there will be other opportunities for her to continue to speak about this, and it's a significant win for her and for other women in her shoes. >> she strategized because she was the one who actually taped his conversations and that really, i think, was a determining factor on this. >> i still think the message that he walk away with double what she gets is an interesting one. greta van susteren it was announced his left the network after 14 years. what do we know about that decision? >> well, it looks like she was pressing for a high eer salary d they just cut her off at the knees. greta is sort of having it both ways because she said she was uncomfortable there for several years and in the immediate aftermath of this she defended roger ailes and i don't know what her discomfort was about and i think it's interesting to point out that here you have an

act of disloyalty, maybe, as the way fox looked at that time and that gets one level of reaction from the murdoch empire, but the loyalty of roger ailes who provided billions of dollars gets a $40 million settlement. >> right, brian. greta, from what i remember and you know, i just know her a little bit. we've exchanged e-mails and i have respect for her. i don't know if she defended roger ailes, i've never harassed anybody and i've never been aware of the harassment of anybody and i know she came under criticism. i don't want to make it sound like what she was saying that what gretchen carlson had said -- >> she should never personally experienced harassment nor was she aware of the harassment that carlson experienced. she was a loyal fox news, and another soon of aftershocks from this ailes statement. she had a clause in her contract that said if ailes left she could leave. i have to wonder if anyone else

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donald trump made his first visit to an african-american church over the labor day weekend at great faith mysteries in detroit. he swayed to music and tried to sway support among the congregation. here's some of what he said. >> this has been an amazing day for me. the african-american faith community has been one of goode's greatest gifts to america and to its people. i am here today to listen to your message, and i hope my presence here will also help your voice to reach new audiences in our country and many of these audiences desperately need your spirit and

your thought. i can tell you that. >> he was warmly received inside the church. there were some protests outside coming weeks after he tried to appeal to african-american voters saying you live in poverty, your schools are no good, and you have no jobs. what the hell do you have to lose? quote. ep r rep political commentator, and chris prudhomme, a non-partisan group dedicated to getting out millennials. don't like trump and don't like clinton for that matter, as well. what are they >> young people have been telling us they're really frustrated with the overall process. they feel the candidates don't meet their need specifically. there's a lot of issues, the main three issues we hear about are criminal justice, jobs and education. they have a major problem with candidates not addressing

directly exact issues. prime example, they want to have a country that is free and accessible when it comes to criminal justice issues, it's just not a fair start. a person could be in prison for five years, ten years, it doesn't matter. at the end of the day we are setting them up for failure. you can't get a job, number one. at the same time, you can't get an apartment. so these are the type of issues they complain about on a consistent basis. >> yet a candidate like bernie sanders who did have a lot of support among certainly white millenials, did you see similar levels of support among african-american millenials? >> no. i think senator sanders has certainly had a lot more support. we were very blessed and fortunate to do a lot of town halls with senator sanders and had -- young people went crazy. it was amazing. out of the nine presidential candidates i had a chance to talk to, he was the most i guess you could say engaging to young

people. it was amazing. his interaction was different. there's an enthusiasm gap and frankly, secretary clinton and mr. trump does not have the same enthusiasm to reach young people. >> paris, i know that obviously donald trump had the event at the church this weekend. he's also had meetings over the course of his campaign with african-american church leaders, more from sort of prosperity gospels but he had that i think big meeting in new york at the trump tower, many many months ago, early in the campaign, other business heed eleaders. do you want to see more direct outreach in communities of color around the country from donald trump, or do you think he doesn't need to do that? or it's a waste of time for him? >> i certainly don't think it's a waste of time. i think any time you have the republican nominee trying to earn the right or earn the vote of african-americans across this country, it is a good thing. because for far too long, the black community has just put all

of our eggs in the democrat basket in terms of being a large voting bloc. i think when democrats get in power or when it turns out republicans get in power we have to have friends on beoth sides f the aisle. so it's a positive step in the right direction for mr. trump to continue his engagement with african-american communities and continue to do that not just now but leading into november because when he's president of the united states, he will be president of all people. i knew that very well when i worked in the white house with george w. bush. he was president of all people. >> van, i remember early on in the primary, you were saying look, to democrats watch out for donald trump, he can actually make inroads in the african-american community that you may not be aware. you were saying this to democrats. you also then more recently have said he missed an opportunity, the time has passed. do you still believe that? or do you think in the next 60 some odd days he can get a greater percentage of african-american support? >> look, i thought he did have a

real shot early on just because there are cracks. the democratic party has left some african-americans feeling frustrated, taken for granted. i think the milk curdled over the course of this campaign. his tone-deaf attempt to outreach to black folks by insulting black people, you are poor, your schools don't work, what the hell have you got to lose, all that kind of stuff i don't think plays well. when he's unscripted talking to black people, he offends. when he's reading a script written for him, he comes across very well. i think a lot of black voters can see through that. i think democrats have to be careful going forward. just because donald trump has been somewhat foolish doesn't mean democrats are smart. there are some real cracks in this coalition. donald trump is not the right messenger and i think he blew a real opportunity in this campaign. >> also, let me say this, too. one of the biggest complaints we have been hearing about, if mr. trump in all respect was going to start an african-american

outreach, he frankly needed to have done it either he missed the nabj conference, missed the urban league, naacp, these are major african-american events. you can't miss those opportunities. people are saying hey, what can we do, why did it happen. it's hard to say that you are reaching out to the african-american community when you miss three large major african-american events this year. >> what about that, paris? he went to talk to folks who were particularly interested in israel, issues regarding israel. why not go to some of those events? >> i think it's a misnomer to say mr. trump has only began or just started his, only begun his african-american engagement. the national diversity coalition for trump started over a year ago. mr. trump as you reported was meeting with african-american church leaders, business leaders across the country, especially in trump tower, for several years. when he was on the debate stage he was the first republican to say the confederate flag should come down in south carolina.

he has had a continued engagement effort. the past weeks have been such a positive, net positive for him, you can see in two separate polls that mr. trump is actually at 8%. he's shown at 8% with african-americans. the "new york times" article showed there are a lot of cracks with the democrats and with especially millenial african-americans. they don't trust secretary clinton. when you see the -- >> they don't -- >> when you see the cnn poll showing mr. trump leading across the board as it relates to enthusiasm, to honesty and trustworthiness. >> van. >> i want you to be able to respond. >> listen, all this stuff sounds good when you say it but the reality is that hillary clinton has done an extraordinary job. african-american support for her equals and sometimes surpasses obama himself which we thought was impossible. he may be improving, but he's

improving from such a low place that you are getting excited about him almost catching up to romney, maybe passing romney in one poll. the reality is that hillary clinton has done an extraordinary job. >> and has a lot of work to do. >> we will leave it there. two months left to go. much more ahead. next hour of "360," hillary clinton and donald trump hitting the trail hard today as the final stretch of the race gets under way. we take a look at their potential paths to victory. what do they need to do to hit the magic number of 270 electoral votes? we looked at the national polling that came out today in our last hour. now we will look at how do they get to 270 and who has the best shot. our nasal allergies... try clarispray. from the makers of claritin. clarispray provides 24-hour, prescription strength relief from sneezing, runny nose, and nasal congestion. return to the world. try clarispray today.

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thanks for joining us for a second hour of "360." coming up, the latest from both campaigns as hillary clinton takes questions from reporters on her plane. donald trump's stance on immigration still very much seems to be in the air. also a look at the relationship between trump and former fox news chief roger ailes now that fox has settled a sexual harassment lawsuit from a former anchor for $20 million and an apology. we begin on the trump campaign trail. he finished up a rally a short time ago in greenville, north carolina. sara murray joins us from there now. trump talked a lot about hillary clinton's e-mail server, the fbi report tonight. what did he say? >> reporter: he was really building on his message of national security today and trying to point out that the way hillary clinton dealt with her e-mail server is in his view disqualifying in her pursu