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a explosion that sent 29 people to the hospital. police not disclosing many clues and really no leads on the suspect. now, a very different story. we have just learned in the past few moments that law enforcement has obtained key video that will help them in this investigation of the two sites where bombs were found last night. one of the bombs detonating on 23rd street, injuring 29 people. the second bomb not detonating. a pressure cooker bomb found four blocks up on 27th street. breaking the news tonight first on cnn is our crime and justice producer, shimon. you got this from all your law enforcement courses. you've been careful in this reporting, talking to multiple sources really all day long. >> correct. >> this is the biggest break they've had in this. it's key video that clearly shows someone's face. >> clearly shows someone's face. we've been careful and diligent. evan perez and i have been on the phone with people.
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it becomes sensitive as the investigation moves. it's moved into a different phase now. i think this video provided some significant clus fes for law enforcement. we've been extremely careful in trying not to certainly disrupt the investigation. we're trying to be careful. the video is significant. they now place someone at the scene. they have someone who is holding what they believe is the pressure cooker. wheeling it kind of around manhattan, around this chelsea neighborhood. >> back up and walk through it all. just so the viewers know, we don't have this video. you're not going to be seeing the video. they're actively looking for the person, as far as we know. you have to be sensitive in what can be reported about him. >> correct. we have no specific information that this person has been identified. you know, it's significant. >> walk us through. what happens last night, 7:50 p.m.? >> 7:50 p.m., they see this man on 23rd street, near the area where the explosion occurs, with
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this duffel bag. he's walking it. they don't see him place it by the dumpster. they don't see what he does with it, but they do see him. they only make the connection after they see the video on 27th street. >> four blocks up. >> correct. they see the video on 27th street and are like, oh, my god, this is the same guy. on 27th street, they actually see him leave the duffel bag. in it, eventually, is the pressure cooker. which they see these two men come by the duffel bag, take out -- >> two different men. >> two different men. they have no idea two these guys are. not that we know of, anyhow. nothing to say they were involved in this. they take it out of this duffel bag. then they sort of walk away with the duffel bag, leaving what they think is just something in a white garbage bag and turns out to be the pressure cooker. they leave it there. they walk off with the duffel
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bag. >> they've also found what they're calling now as definitively a cell phone attached to the pressure cooker. what does that tell us about the crude nature of the device, how whom will was planning to detonate it? >> i think the cell phone will probably offer a lot of clues in the end. certainly, tells them how the device was meant to go off, how it was supposed to detonate. but besides that, we haven't -- they haven't -- law enforcement hasn't shared with us everything they've learned from the cell phone. but the cell phone is significant. i don't know much more than that. i've been told that some way, it has been proven pretty significant. >> okay. >> they're working with it. they have it. whatever it is they're doing with it, they're doing with it. >> with me now -- stay with me, shimon. fascinating reporting. great job getting all the information. it is a huge development. with me is cnn's top national security analyst -- top national security analysts are with us.
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first, deborah feyeick is on west 23rd, where this happened last night, also working her law enforcement sources. earlier when we were speaking with you, deb, there was activity behind you, in terms of a vehicle that investigators were interested? >> yeah, very interested in the vehicle. they identified it later in the information. it had noj plaew jersey plates, subaru. they were taking pictures of it. our of the team put on a suit, probably to avoid cross contamination of the vehicle in case there was dna or fingerprints or something like that. they took the car away. we can also tell you there are two bug questions rigig questio. who and why. shimon identified they may know who. the nypd has a sophisticated surveillance system throughout the city. they were looking at store video
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and their own video. the fact they were able to mauk t -- make the match significant. whether the individual has anything to do with the car earlier removed. clearly, there are unknowns. investigators were working the scene all day. they were able to render the second device, the device found at 27th street, the pressure cooker, they were able to basically neutralize it while maintaining the integrity of the pressure cooker. the wires and the cell phone. all of that has been taken to virginia where it will be analyzed. they're going to look for dna, a fingerprint, a hair perhaps. something that could potentially trace it to the person who left it there. there are also other clues, including where they may have bought a pressure cooker, or even something identified in the cell phone. all in all, a good day for investigators as they move along to see who this person was or people were. >> has there been any movement,
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deb, in deciphering whether or not there was a connection between the pipe bombs that exploded yesterday morning in new jersey, right at that site of the 5k marine race, and this? i mean, i know they said there are similarities in the devices. but are they making progress on any potential connection there? >> no. the fbi chief here in new york was clear about that. they'll hold up security because they don't want anything to leak out that could compromise the investigation or finding the people responsible. they don't know why the devices were placed in this area, in chelsea on west 23rd street. why this area? why now? the cell phones are interesting, according to someone i spoke
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with. it suggests they can be detonated. the devices can be detonated from a far distance. unlike the boston marathon bombing, as you know. those bombers were right in the proximity of the bombs. >> right. >> with the cell phones, it means they have greater range. all of that is coming into play. what they don't know is as important as what they are discovering. with the united nations general assemb assembly, clearly, the stakes are very high right now. >> absolutely. president obama landing in new york tonight. he's already in new york for a fundraiser. then you have world leaders truly from across the globe landing here this week for the united nations general assembly. we know that major de blasio said in his press conference today, the nypd presence in the city now after this will be, quote, bigger than ever. with me now, our panel of law enforcement experts. former fbi assistant director, tom fuentes. also with me, former cia
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operative, bob baer. and juliette kayyem. juliette, they believe they know who is responsible. they have video of the same person at 23rd street and 27th street, right around the time of the bombing. >> i think they always went with the believe that it was too much of a coincident to believe the four block difference was two different people. here's the good news. this is all good news so far. it just takes a little time for these investigations to unfold. it's only been about 24 hours. they'll do face recognition. other sort of matching to determine if they know within the police department, if they know who it is. they'll cross reference it to the joint terrorism task force. determine whether they have any facial recrecognition. if not, you may see something
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similar to boston. they crowd sourced the identification. with the brothers, they had no idea who they were. the second they put out the pictures, they get information from friends, roommates, whomever else, that narrows down the search. you have torre ca be careful wh do that. the person who it is or the people will react in potentially violent ways. in terms of understanding the motivation, we're just -- we're not there yet still. this is how these investigations unfold. hopefully if they find out who it is, then the question of what animated this and what you were saying, why this area and why in a dumpster. why are there so many questions about the method? those will begin to be answered. >> tom fuentes, to you. someone is tweeting me right now, saying if there was video showing a suspect's face, wouldn't the cops want the public to see it. walk us through why not. >> i don't know why not. i think at some point -- the only reason why not is they've already made an internal
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identification, either gotten a phone call, a tip, or a police officer recognized that face that's dealt with the individual or surveilled that individual or arrested the individual before. in that case, they may want to track down the person because they know who it is. if not, they are going to, at some point, crowd source and get help from the public. there's some other aspects of the investigation that are important. one that that cell phone that was attached to the pressure cooker, chances are, calls were made to that phone already, to test it. whoever built these devices may have just worked with the triggering in the past, with the other device. there might have been another phone on that one and made phone calls. they'd have phone calls going to the cell towers that night, possibly from the phone. if they can get the metadata from the phone on the pressure cooker, it may reveal what number called it.
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if they get that thunumber, it might track back to the person interesting the phone and identify that person. secondly -- >> let me jump in there, tom. i have a follow up question on that. after we saw the terror attack in san bernardino, the whole ensuing debate over encryption and what could be found on the iphone and what, you know, apple would, you know, help or not help to be deciphered, you know, given smartphones and given encryption, given the passwords and everything to get into them, how much does it complicate or make their job harder. >> they can get from the phone company, the records of what numbers dialed the phone and what were sent. >> not from the device but from the phone company. how long would that take? do they need a court order? >> yeah, they'll get that. no problem. they'll get all that. but it's the data on the phone. the actual text messages would
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be recorded into the memory of the phone. that's what the fbi was trying to get from farook in san bernardino. if text messages went to other individuals -- remember the two attackers that went from phoenix to garland, texas. they were texting with individuals and it took long time before they could crack the content of those text messages, which were in the phones. that's a different matter. the actual dialing of the number to detonate, practicing with the phone and actually detonating the other device near the dumpster, that would be probably traceable. find records that, at that precise moment, which cell to r towers had that number going through it. what was the number dialing the cell phone, you know, at that device. that's what i'm speculating. that the person detonated the first device, then dialed the number for the second one. it didn't go off. so you would have the dialing into that phone to try and detonate it. as i mentioned, possibly the two guys that stole the duffel bag
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jostled a wire loose or something and that's why it wouldn't work. they basically disabled the detonating mechanism of the cell phone. now, i was going to mention the car is another issue. all of these video cameras also would have a track on that subaru that they've just take ton a garage somewhere. >> i think we can pull that video up so people know what you're talking about. there were a number of authorities around this subaru parked on west 23rd street tonight. they've loaded it on to a flatbed truck. we don't have the video, but go on, tom. >> here's what's important there. they would have the license plate identification number of that car, obviously. they would have some idea of how long it was parked there. we don't know what specifically aroused their suspicions about the vehicle. they tow it to a garage because it's dark out now and they can work on it indoors in comfort and with light. the key thing is here, the same expensive network of video cameras, theoretically, can
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tract that vehicle. it's a new jersey vehicle. you would have the cameras at the tunnel entrances, the bridge entrances to manhattan. they might be able to track that vehicle coming from new jersey. more importantly, if they had good coverage of that vehicle as it was being parked at that location, would that show possibly the guy pulling the duffel bag out of the vehicle and going around? that's where the connections could be made, from videos of the subject taking the wheelie duffel bag around with the devices. and secondly, who might be associated with that subaru, as far as who parked it or maybe went back to it later and got, you know, the duffel bag out of the backseat or something like that. these possible separate tracks of the investigation could intersect and overlap and give more information about the person that set the devices out there. >> tom fuentes, stay with me.
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investigating an explosion of any type requires a lot of patience, meticulous gathering of evidence. that's where the alcohol, tobacco and firearms training comes in. you can imagine what they're going through now, given all that has transpired in new york city in the last 24 hours. cnn will take you inside of the atf lab, where they learn what they look for after an explosion. watch. >> fire in the hole! fire in the hole! fire in the hole! >> when we go to a scene, whether it is an explosion or a fire wer fire, we don't go in with preconceived notions. >> i can talk to you and tell you what it feels like. until you see it firsthand, you really don't understand.
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>> the training that we are putting on here, giving the first responders and investigating agencies the tools that they need to be able to conduct an investigation. >> when the items are sifted and connected for evidence, they're categorized. are they something that is common use, or if not, they may be part of the actual explosive device. >> collecting evidence, you know, to be sent to the lab for processing. it also can give you an idea of what type of explosive plmay ha been used. >> once it is submitted to the laboratory, we take all of the information we gather from running it on these different instruments, and all of that data together allows us to determine what the explosive is. addition to looking for the explosives, we're looking for components. anything we can link the suspect to the device or the device to the suspect. >> the end result is we want to figure out, number one, is a
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criminal event? if it is a criminal event, who did it >> giving you an eye into some of what goes into looking at these devices. i should note that's the atf. the fbi now is the lead on this. the pressure cooker found last night on west 27th street is at quantico. bob, obviously the fact that this was not detonated gives them so much information. not only fingerprints but what the wiring tells us. what instructions were followed from, say, "inspire" magazine or something else. we just don't know. to build it. as they disassemble this, what are they looking for? what are the key things they're looking for? >> they're going to be looking how the phone was rigged up to the black powder. if that's what it was. they're going to be looking for wiring. they're going to be looking for the cell phone itself. is it prepaid? i imagine it was. at this point, if i were doing the investigation, what i'd look
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for is where the prepaid cell phone was and in other cells in the vicinity. if somebody had a cell in their other pocket, carrying the pressure cooker, you'd somehhowt tracking. it's amazing that the people will continue to use two cell phones and keep one in the pocket. if it was bought in new jersey, for instance. they can tell so much about this. any time you use a cell phone, you're leaving an incredible track behind you, which is -- which can be found efficiently. they know how to do this now. >> juliette karyeyyem, to you. when you're looking at, as shimon reported, the same individual on 23rd street and 27th street within a matter of minutes last night, and what sounds like clear surveillance video showing the face, walk us through what was going on right now. in terms of the delicate balance they're walking, between, you know, apprehending this person,
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but also are they connected to a wider web before they take this person down. >> well, their priority is apprehending the person. the only question now is what's the safest way to do so? and the best possible circumstance is the nypd and fbi are going to cross reference face, facial recognition. look through all the files and cross reference to the joint terrorism task force, any other databases. there's probably over two dozen to scrub the facial recognition against. the hope is to keep it internal, not to keep the public out of it but the safest way to get something is surprise. what you don't -- but if you end up, as we had to do here in boston, sort of crowd sourcing it, the people who your looking for may end upturning it around and getting violent as they try to escape or get out of the city, as we saw here.
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it's -- there's no ideal situation in these circumstances, but what you're trying to do is minimize the harm to anyone else. and determine who this person and then any other people. but they want to catch him. there's no question about it. there might be a larger network but they're not going to survey him for too long. the fear being he'd go underground and you'd miss him. >> all right. i want to bring shimon back in here, as well, who broke this news for us. and tom fuentes. shimon, you haven't seen this video but it's been described to you by a number of law enforcement officials. they have a clear view of this person's face. anything that they said to you about what stands out about this person? >> i think they're kind of surprised by how they were able to identify him and see him. >> really? >> i think there was some surprise. some folks sort of, you know -- the whole thing with the two men that walk over to the duffel bag, i think some have chuckled at that. there is some thinking behind that but -- >> what do you mean they chuckled? >> it's perhaps an odd kind of
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coincidence. like no one thinks these two men were involved. >> why is that? >> i don't know. i think it's based off their investigation. i can tell you evan perez has spoke ton a couple people about this, too, that described the video to him. in its initial appearance, perhaps they thought maybe the other two men were involved. but i think law enforcement has pretty much moved away from that. again, there's so much that has been going on today and so much that they've found out. i think they've made so much progress. i think that's sort of their -- that's where they are now in their thinking. >> as they try to identify this person, they may already have, we don't know, tom fuentes, talk me through what the experts at the fbi, who is lead on the investigation now, what they're doing in terms of the facial recognition technology. it's so great and they could take a snapshot of the video and run it in their database. do they find any matches?
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do they find any hits? >> well, maybe. the facial recognition software is not perfect. it can be thwarted if the individual has glasses, facial hair, a hat pulled down. it obliterates some of the ref raens poi -- reference points to identify an individual's face. a more frontal view, the more accurate it'll. clean shave, no sunglasses and no hat. we don't know that at this point. it can be helpful but it's not foolproof. as i said, i'm a little unclear on if they have an actual identity of the individual and are looking for him now, or maybe already have that person and are surveilling that person to see if he leads to other co-conspirators. i'm unclear if they've gotten that far at this point in the investigation. >> tom, stay with me.
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clues and zero suspects. now, cnn learning that law enforcement had obtained key video that is helping them immensely in the investigation into the two sites in new york where police found the explosive devices last night. one of them exploding on 23rd street. injuring 29 people. let's go to shimon, our cnn crime and justice producer. you've been talking to law enforcement sources all day. this is, by far, the biggest lead on who carried it out. they think it's the same guy. >> they do. this video shares the same man, what they think is the same man, walking on 23rd street near the site of the explosion. and on 27th street, dumping this duffel bag, which contained the pressure cooker. >> let's take it piece by piece. let's start first with 23rd street. what does the video now today show them this man was doing on 23rd treat? >> all they see in the video is the man walking. they see him walking. >> not carrying any device? >> he has the duffel bag with him, but they don't see where he
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puts the duffel bag. so far, we've not been given any indication that there is video that shows him leaving the duffel bag by this dumpster where the exploesioexplosion, t believe, took place. seen 10, 15 minutes later walking on 27th street with the same duffel bag. he looks the same. the physical features are the same. everything about him is similar. he has the duffel bag. he's seen walking on 27th street with the bufl bduffel bag. it's on wheels and he's pulling it. he leaves it and walks away. moments later, not sure of the time frame, two men walk over. they open the duffel bag as they kind of feel it, see what's in there. they take what's in there out and walk off with the duffel bag. no indication these guys were involved. no indication they knew what was in the bag. in fact, some law enforcement
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believe they had no idea what was in the bag. they took out what was in the duffel bag, which wound up being the pressure cooker, in this white garbage bag. >> it is important to note they are not saying whether the two people that found the duffel bag on 27th street, took the pressure cooker out, are related in any way to this. may literally may have been looking for, is there money in the bag? what is there? we don't need this and putting it to the side. >> no one is sure why -- i don't know that law enforcement has spoken to the two. perhaps they have. they have not shared it with us. yeah, as of right now, no one thinks they were involved. they walked away with the duffel bag. that was it. >> they're not releasing this video to the public. have they said why? >> no. i can tell you we've asked, and some folks have not given us any indication about whether or not they were plans to release it. i don't think, you know -- i'm not at a point where i think we should read anything into that. >> right. well, what we can read into it is they don't need the public's
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help identifying this person. couldn't you? it's why they released it in boston after the marathon bombing. >> that even took time. perhaps. i don't know. who knows what they're thinking and why. maybe they have good leads and they're chasing them down and don't want it out there, for whatever reason. also, you have to think about this is going to eventually be evidence in a prosecution. >> sure. >> they do arrest the man. so they could be thinking that, as well. who knows. right now, the fbi is calling the shots on this and deciding what is getting released and what isn't. >> fbi is the lead on this. also, they've got, you know, the pressure cooker that didn't detonate up in quantico, doing a lot of forensic work there. tons of clues they can get from that. shimon, stay with me. great reporting, breaking this news. deborah feyerick is on 23rd near where the blast happened. deb, this surveillance video is key. what they're doing at quantico is key. they're also continuing to do things where you are at the location. the street is closed.
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they're still sweeping. there was this vehicle earlier tonight they were clearly interested in and eventually removed. i think we have video to show that, as you tell us what happened. >> yeah, absolutely. late in the afternoon and all of a sudden, there was a team from the nypd. forensic investigators. they were looking at the vehicle. new jersey plates on it. whether there's an indication that that car, obviously, was connected somehow to the incident that happened in new jersey, all that under investigation. they were specifically interested in that and took it away. there was another car they were removing from the scene. a short time ago, they brought in salt spreaders from the department of sanitation. we don't know whether those are going to be used to block the scene. there was fdny truck. they were using the ladder to try to get very high in order to see if they could find bomb residue, bomb components, bomb parts. they looked everywhere. all the material is going to
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quantico to be analyzed. a victory for the bomb squad today. the nypd bomb squad. they were able to take the device on 27th street, which was not detonated, and they were able to render it safe. they were aible ble to neutrali. it gives them evidence in terms of how the device was made, where they may have gotten the blueprints for this. was it inspired by al qaeda? or whether z-- and just because it was inspired by al qaeda doesn't mean it was al qaeda. it was just someone reading a magazine. the investigation is still active. cars coming and going. heavy presence here. unclear when they're going to be reopening at least this part of 23rd street, poppy. >> ahead of a big week in new york. president obama is here for a fundraiser and the u.n. general assembly is kicking off this week, with global leaders
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descending on the city. thank you very much. let me bring my banpanel back i. bob baer, math rthew horace, wh managed explosives investigations for the atf. matthew, luck us through what they're doing right now. the fact that, frankly, they're lucky to have this pressure cooker that did not detonate last night. therefore, it is a plethora of information for you. >> you're absolutely right. they are trying to establish where the device came from. they're using date codes and other identifiers to determine where it was purchased. they're trying to ascertain what explosive, if any, is inside the pressure cooker and if there is, in fact, anything inside the pressure cooker. also, what is the device made out of? the detonation device looks like a cell phone. the battery, wire.
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they're trying to use all of that to try and make sure they can figure out where the device was manufactured and who manufactured it. >> tom fuentes, when you look at what the fbi is doing now, can you walk us through the proess ther -- process there, in terms of what they did last night and what they'll be doing today? is the key piece of evidence they can get the cell phone attached to it? >> there are so many separate components of the investigation, poppy. there will be hundreds of people. the fbi is in a position to bring in 1,000 additional agents if they think they need them. either evidence experts, explosive experts, invis gaestie assistance in general. they have to do work with the phone company, tracking down these phones, the actual devices. and work with the phone companies, as far as what signals went through which towers, to try to track that.
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working, the police, with all of the video cameras. as i mentioned, all the way and back from new jersey. not just immediately around that block or a couple block area. that has to be done. just trying to look at every aspect of that. looking at all of social media. has anything been put out there, either prior to the event or since yesterday? were there some chatter about it that they can identify? they're contacting every source they have to see what may have come from that. all of the 70 plus jttfs in the country are scrubbing their databases to see if there has been any information leading up to or subsequent to these devices being deployed yesterday. there are probably thousands of agents, police officers, analysts, technicians and laboratory experts working on this case and have been since yesterday. >> tom, stay with me. we have to get a quick break in here. we have much more on this
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reach the blast victims in new york last night were bystanders who heard the blast and ran towards it to help. they found panicked and bloodied individuals. many of them in an absolute state of shock. look at this. >> come with me. come with me. come with me. i'm holding you, okay? come with me. you okay. nothing is going to happen, okay? nothing is going to happen to you. come on. this is the ambulance, right here. go i got you. i got you. >> what's wrong? >> right here. >> what happened? >> come here. >> i heard an explosion. i fell. >> okay. >> my eye -- >> take this off. >> what's my eye look like? >> you're okay. >> can you show me? >> rachel spoke with some of the victims as they left the hospital last night. you were there at belleview, as we were breaking the news on the air. you were there where they took
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the biggest number of the victims from the blast. what stands out to you most from what the victims had to say, how they're doing today? >> well, poppy, bellevue is where 11 of the 29 victims were taken. we were there when many of them were being discharged. as we know, the 29 victims have been discharged from the hospital at this point. we spoke to one couple that was caught in the blast. david martinez and his pregnant girlfriend. they described being in the blast. they were driving through the area. they said that part of their car was actually lifted up from the force of the blast. the whole left side of the car was damaged. david injured his leg. he said that they're simply lucky to be alive. take a listen. >> i was driving a car, and next thing you know, i felt an explosion. the car just tilted over. halfway and came back down. what happened was, i just blacked out. next thing you know, i'm in an ambulance. >> what about you? what do you remember? >> everything was so sudden and fast. it was more of a shock.
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>> how are you doing now? >> pain. you know, little traumatized. just thought about that, that i was close to not actually seeing my son again. that was the scariest part of the night for me. >> not seeing your son, that ran through your head? >> yes. >> you thought you were going to lose your life? >> yes. to be an explosion, i thought, oh, man. like everything was moving fast. i was feeling like i was in mud, couldn't move, quick sand. >> wow. i felt like i was in mud, quick sand, i couldn't move. >> poppy, what struck me the motion in the conversation is this man clearly thought he was going to die. he said he thought he was never going to see his son again. thank goodness, nobody was more severely injured in the incident. nobody lost their lives. i did have a chance to speak with david earlier today. he said that he was still trying to make sense of what had happened. he said he was extremely tired and hadn't slept very well and that his leg was incredibly
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sore. i also spoke to other victims being discharged from the hospital. one young woman was completely in shock. he just wanted to go home and sleep. she was physically okay, but mentally, that was another story. we spoke to people who witness td scene, as well. they described it to be chaotic. they heard the loud boom. people running up from the subway. one woman was in a restaurant at the time of the blast. everyone in the restaurant raced to the window to see what was happening. people were running down the streets. people exited the restaurant and saw the first responders on the street. they decided to leave the airre. the city on heightened alert. everyone trying to come to grips with what has happened. >> you think about the people who ran towards. you think, what would i do? you never know until you're faced with the predicament. do you run away for your safety or run to help? >> as we saw in the videos, seeing the bravery that comes out of situations like this is
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. >> more of our breaking news in the new york city explosion that injured 29 people and a possible breakthrough with my panelist. former cia. let me go to simone who has broken the news in the last hour. this all comes down to who is responsible. surveillance video showing your law enforcement sources, they think it's the same guy. >> they think it's the same guy in two locations. he drops the pressure cooker and police are able to recover and whatever the device was that was used at the explosion site on 23rd street. it's the same person seen leaving that area and seen on 27th street. one of the major clues, he had a duffle bag with it that he used to conceal the pressure cooker and --
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>> how big of a surprise was this to law enforcement sources that they got such a clear picture. they haven't publicly identified this person, but they were able to get such a clear picture of his face. >> very surprising. initially they said they did not find a lot of surveillance video. >> it was too grainy. >> they went back today to the stores they couldn't get to yesterday. they could have found this video last night and they were working through it and trying to enhance it. the video on 23rd street may not be as strong. the video on 27th street what we have been told, it's really strong. the quality is really good and they were able to see what this guy looks like. the video, there is indication it may not be as strong. >> it's important to note that the suspect as far as we know is still at large. we don't have reporting otherwise. >> correct. as far as we know police are still looking for him. he should be careful.
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they are still looking for him as far as we know and want to talk to him. along with the other two individuals. >> do you both have final thoughts on the fact that this is an active search for this individual, but they are treating it different than after the boston marathon bombing. they are not releasing the video to the public. what does that tell you? >> there is no point of shutting the city down if you don't know who it is. they have a good facial recognition and i think the good news in this is we are not dealing a skilled network here. the chances of them moving to the next attack i think are diminishing the more information we get. >> tom fuentes, do you agree? >> don't forget in boston when the two brothers were identified, they felt like cornered rats. they killed a police officer and separately engaged in a gun
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battle, shooting on the streets. this individual may now if he is watching television realize that he is on the run and he is going to be cornered and very dangerous at this point. >> bob, when you are talking about the work that they are doing that he reported, the street is shut down and they removed a car and taken it away on a flatbed truck. what is the most critical piece of evidence. is it going to be in the pressure cooker that they are disassembling? >> they want to find out what the material was. was there an addition? some people believe they put something else in the pressure cooker and they are looking for the pieces of it. they will be able -- this
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forensic stuff, once you continue the story, you base it all on the facts and it's the way the investigation is done. >> before we go this evening, your final thoughts after working the law enforcement sources all day and how confident are they feeling? this is still an active situation. >> i think they are cautiously optimistic. they are working. there are people that are working right now in office it is across the city. the nypd along with the fbi. there is stuff going on and they are still trying to figure out who this person is and they are going through whatever they are going through and there is a lot of technology in trying to track this guy. >> you don't know if they have a name? >> no one has shared a name with us, but we have spectacular clues and they have the video and the pressure cooker and a lot of great things to work with. >> amazing reporting and always breaking the news for us first
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