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>> good evening thanks for joining us. hillary clinton and donald trump were wack on the campaign trail after a debate historic. most watched in american history. estimated 84 million people tuning in. first time a woman took the stage for a presidential candidate as major political party and only time a hypothetical bedridden and rosy o'donnell came up in a debate. get over that in the next two hours. clear majority says clinton won the debate but trump won the debate but suggesting that he got a bad microphone. political reporter sarah marie is there. what did he have to say about the performance last night. >> reporter: still insisting he won the debate even though the
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supporters at the rally say he missed opportunities to go after clinton and right here saying he held off and didn't want to embarrass her as he was saying her performance was overrehearsed and scripted. it's interesting because seeing a flashback to the republican primary donald trump, keeps interrupting his own voice to tell of polls where he's leading and bash the media, obviously a valuable attack, to go after the dishonest press he says is misrepresenting him. >> he seems to be attempting to reset the narrative. how is that going? how is he trying to do that? >> reporter: i think absolutely attempting to reset the narrative. if missed opportunities last night, not leaving any on the table tonight. going after hillary clinton right now behind me about her
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e-mails. brought that up multiple times tonight and framework he's trying to do is paint her as candidate of the past. say she's had decades in politics and all she's done is delete her e-mails or set up state department clinton foundation and use as opportunity for pay-to-play. this is what they believe is big picture going forward. donald trump as candidate of change and hillary clinton as typical politician. >> thanks. spoke with trump supporters about how he did. here's just a little bit how that went. >> care less about his taxes or hillary's taxes. not going to vote for him for his taxes, voting for him to clean up the country. get rid of the dirty politicians and whatever they can do to make america great again? >> down he was prepared.
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>> he's prepared for everything. >> made mistakes. >> respects women? >> i believe he does. >> more reactions later in the program but right now panel joining me. clinton supporter, former obama administration official, cnn political antist and two trump supporters. trump is saying he won online polls. we don't use them because usually something anybody can click on as many times as they want and not legitimate poll but he says he won nevertheless. what happens now? >> we have to wait four or five days to see what this does to the polls in the campaign. could be a stasis where it just settles. clinton people i spoke with today were downplaying it, spinning it lower, saying we don't expect the polls to go up. but if she doesn't get a couple points bump out of this, won't
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be good. we see hillary clinton taking blalt of a victory tour today. saw it in her tone and what sarah murray is talking about, see donald trump unfiltered, taking swings at targets like at primaries. >> and still talking about miss universe when asked about it and rehashing it. >> and complaining with the mike. >> we'll talk to her actually a little later on in the broadcast. but donald trump talked after word in the spin room about the threat of bringing up bill clinton's infeddelities. >> anything you wished did differently. >> very happy i was able to hold back on the indiscretions with respect to bill clinton because i have a lot of respect for
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chelsea clinton and didn't want to say what i was going to today. >> which is. >> maybe i'll tell you next. >> i would have been talking about what she did to monica lewinski, trying to paint her as insane young woman when was intern and president of the united states, her husband, disgraced this country with what he did and she didn't just stand by him but attacked monica lewinski. and after being married to bill clinton, you didn't know that monica was telling the truth, you're too stupid to be president. >> i agree with mr. trump shouldn't have it up. but logically i understand the point that rudy jule awny i is
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making. thr swaufl assault survivors who are not listened to. i logically understand the point and think he's making that point but i don't think donald trump should have brought it up on the debate stage. did what he did expertly. >> do you wish donald trump had done better on the birther issue or question of the tax returns? both probably obvious they might come up? >> i'm glad. hope that's the end. the question today, did he miss opportunities? i think so but think he purposefully did. if this is all hillary clinton can do and last night is it, we still. >> you think he pourpfully didn't pivot 0 hit hillary clinton on topics -- >> we'll find out in the next debate. he'll learn the art of pivoting. never done that, been on stage. why reveal all the cards.
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>> because this debate has the largest audience in human history and others probably won't. >> this the best hillary clinton can show, best fire she had, she's done. as she said, we don't know if get that much of a bump and all the online polls said donald trump did win. >> but you know that online polls don't mean anything. >> but also the cnn poll that last night admitted it was skewed more towards democrats than the republicans. >> but you admit online polls have imaginary. >> absolutely but if this is all she has, can't claim victory. >> idea he could have pivoted or they didn't practice, seems hard to imagine they didn't suggest to him or gone over in debate prep. >> starting to see something that should be troubling to
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everybody. donald trump has been very, very good the past couple of weeks, frighteningly good from my point of view. been disciplined, listened to advisers and rising in the polls. he walked out there last night. got rattled, somebody said mean things and now he's on a tear, tearing up the playbook anding to whatever he wants. that is dangerous in a leader. sometimes a bad thing happens to you. doesn't mean you abandon your strategy and start doing crazy stuff. >> you're obviously not a supporter but are you surprised he didn't find a way to bring up wall, immigration, mexico, national security, any of the things he talks about all the time? there were opportunities where he could have, instead of talking about -- going down the rabbit hole of sean hannity and things like that. >> what we saw is the donald
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trump, the real donald trump, he's unhinged and deranged and when knocked off stride couldn't collect himself it was curious and interesting to watch the undeclared poeters that pamela braun brown was talking to. when donald trump said i have the best temperament of anybody i think there was a laugh across the whole country because nobody believes that. i think it showed. you don't get to the things you talk about, wlt wall or other issues. thrown off stride and difficult to come back. >> did it concern you, seemed obvious what hillary clinton brought up to goad him. your dad gave you money to start your business life. that's obvious poke and he went for it. every time she would bring up something, jingling a shiny object he would reach for it and
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waste valuable time. >> he would explain it and i agree he did knot need to explain his birther issue. i think he should have talked about e-mail scandal more but what we saw last night was brilliant. he looked at hillary clinton, this is all talk, no action, sounds good. >> without a doubt he was effective early on in prosecuting a case and making case for himself. >> these were predictable as you say. and the fact that he didn't pivot to talk about transparence, about the clinton foundation. when she attacked him on not releasing his taxes was kind of stunning to mechlt i ran into somebody who knows donald trump very well after the debate who said he just can't help himself. when you poke him, he has to
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respond personally about it. >> part of the danger of this if you're going to be commander in chief, is people figure that out and start gaming you. that's dangerous. >> we have a lot more to talk about ahead. including hillary clinton's day she was deemed winner in cnn poll, today came out swinging, celebrating. will her performance change anything? and former beauty queen that became part of the debates. donald trump is keeping his comments coming up about alicia machado and we'll talk to her coming up. it's easy to love your laxative...
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describe themselves as democrats than the overall. but still it's clear how hillary clinton and her team think last night went. jeff zeleny takes a look. >> did anybody see that debate last night? >> reporter: there's a new spring in her step tonight. >> oh, yes. one down, two to go. >> reporter: flying to rally in north carolina, hillary clinton reveling in the strong reviews from her first face-to-face meeting with donald trump. >> you should know what i set my mind on something, i keep going, don't quit. whatever the static. that's what i'll dor to the american people. >> reporter: most watched debate in history came just in time for clinton, locked in tight race with trump, nationally and in critical battlegrounds. picked up where she left off on
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stage. after hitting trump for not releasing his taxes, pressed the point harder today. >> i got to the point where i said maybe he's paid zero. he said that makes him smart. now if not paying taxes makes him smart, what does that make all the rest of us. >> reporter: preparing for debate and presidency. >> he made it very clear that he didn't prepare for that debate. i did. and i also prepared to be president of the united states and i think that's good. >> reporter: to her charge he's built his businesses by stiffing the little guy. >> stiffing people, dashwashers, painters, plumbers, architects, glass and marble installers, drapery installers, across america. >> reporter: did thes fanned out across the country to pile on
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trump hoping to the sense of unease. >> reporter: from former president bill clinton in ohio and mccain in florida. >> really showed how rattled he was. >> reporter: clinton made clear the fight was just beginning. >> this election will be close. they all are these days. >> clinton campaign thinks the performance may have moved the needle. >> reporter: they hope it will. point to demographic groups, college-educated women. think of the battleground state like philadelphia, they were offended by donald trump and more open to supporting hillary clinton. this is the kind of voter who doesn't love hillary clinton but now they believe that donald trump unacceptable. and second is young voters.
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one of the challenge is the millennial voters. why on college campus today and will be tomorrow. young voters are considering a third party candidate. clinton folks believe that performance shows them why this election is important and why the debate is needed. that's why bernie sanders is on the trail at hillary clinton's side in new hampshire. >> joining the conversation. ran against clinton in a senate race. only person in panel been on the debate stage. the clinton you remember versus last night, what jumped out at you? >> more impressive, measured. had her facts together. does her homework just like when dae baited me. doesn't make a lot of unforced errors. some anticipating that but wasn't going to happen. the case is whether trump can
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make the case for him as president. last night coming up elevator in the building, talked to millennial couple at debate party with others, what was your reaction? we laughed at boemg for first 30 minutes then depressed afterwards. >> who did you vote for last time? obama, but not sure what to do. moving groups, not sure many people not already decided were moved but think trump missed opportunities by being defensive and going off message. didn't prosecute the case for the economy. >> that lack of preparation? >> combination of maybe lack of preparation and lack of discipline and inny you are mind organizing to keep somebody else on defense. >> having a strategy. >> talking about syria, somalia,
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egypt, libya, around the world when she was secretary of state, is there a place that is now better than when you took office. what about the server? what were you thinking? and calling her when challenging him on credibility, just remind you of the situation where you were claiming snipers shot at you in bosnia. he missed fundamental opportunities to make the case about who she was on character and who he would be on the economy and charter schools. >> do you think reached any voters he didn't have? >> no but why he was successful and hillary clinton lost this morning, people woke up. women weren't excited. didn't hear a brouhaha about the first woman presidential
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candidate. needed to motivate women. >> that was not the nafrt. and whole goal was to paint mr. trump as sexist bully. that didn't work. not what we're talking about this morning. >> but donald trump this morning was talking on television about miss machado and continued to say she gained too much weight. previously said somebody who liked to eat. should he still be talking about that today. >> no because propelled this sto story. >> but the campaign denies the accusations. he said/she said. >> he said on television she likes to eat, gained too much weight and sent media to watch her work out. >> but what clinton said on stage was false. there are a lot of security agents could come up to say when
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she was there, get the bleep out of here, there's no money here. investigative reporting from the wall street joounl. could get into third party hearsay. i have a list with similar quotes. >> go first, i'll follow. >> i'm sure that people say bad things about people. i think that might miss the point though. point is donald trump has tremendous problems with a section of women. i don't think he did himself any favors by doubling and tripling down ot fat shaming weight issue stuff. i don't think it shows -- it's one thing to be not disciplined preparing for biggest debate i the history of humanity and have no strategy. it's something else to realize you fell on your face and get up in the morning and say i want to do more than that. i don't think it gives people confidence of him as commander in chief. >> wanted to talk about what jeff mentioned in terms of
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demographics, hillary clinton needing to be better in younger voters. we talked about this. one omission from hillary clinton's standpoint is never mentioned bernie sanders in the debate and two opportunities could have done that and those are people that want to hear affirmation of what the campaign did. there was opportunity when climate change came up when correctly pointed out that donald trump thinks clamt change is approach. could have said in the democratic platform we have the best in our history thanks to bernie sanders, and commits me after inaugurated to hold a summit to implement it. mean a lot to young voters and talking about inequality, bernie sanders brought inequality into this debate. should have found a subtle way of thanking bernie sanders to work with had the senate. >> for her it's critical to get
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millennials who are going to gary johnson. >> particularly the polling in colorado, she's bleeding millennials there. really needs them. she and bernie sanders are going to have to do more. and i think they will. >> and he's campaigning with her tomorrow, having active role. >> millennials include young women of color and young white women who also might object to the machado story. and also why did he raise -- best thing is didn't raise monica lewinski and hillary clinton's husband's infiddelities, i don't see why gets him. >> but doing well with married women, engaged in the elections. seven points up. these women showing up and going to things. barack obama made history as first african-american
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donald trump is not letting up on his criticism of former miss universe, the way he treated alicia machado came up last night. she said the way he bullied her when she gained right led to eating disorders and depression. trump not only kept the story going but said more. i'll speak to her. >> she doesn't have the stamina. when donald trump questioned
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hillary clinton's stamina, she was ready, taking on trump with alleged words about a miss universe contestant. >> he called this woman miss piggy and miss housekeeping because she was lat that. dond she has a name. alicia machado and she's become a u.s. citizen and you can bet she's going to vote this november. >> from venezuela, winner of trump's miss universe contest in 1996. with all the stressors after the event she says she gained about 20 pounds. trump claimed it was at least 40. she says trump publicly shamed him. clinton campaign had an ad ready to hit trump. this summer machado spoke of the names trump called her which hillary clinton mentioned. machado claims that not long
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after the pageant trump pressed her into working out in front of a bunch a reporters. felt like lab rat. >> she'll go back and forth. it's called active rest. >> she weighed 117 or 118 and went up to 160 or 70. this is somebody who likes to eat. told "fusion" she didn't like this. >> i don't want to do this. feel bad with the reporters. he said i don't care. >> says she suffered with anorexia. today donald trump defend. >> he was the worst we ever had. the most absolute possible. was the winner and gained a massive amount of weight and was
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a real problem. not only that but her attitude. >> analysts say the clinton campaign likely believed alicia machado gave him the same opportunity as khizr khan and his wife. >> clinton campaign planned this wand going to be rat aat that time. here comes miss machado appearing all over the news and made it a big story. very clever. an after debate story that keeps the issue alive. >> reached out to trump campaign about the specific allegations made, the campaign in a statement called her claims totally baseless and unsubstantiated and said machado had lobbed a public smear campaign to gain noetoriety at
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trump's expense. maria how effective -- this is something clinton campaign had planned out. secretary clinton almost didn't get it in, found a way at end. wonder what else they had planned she would have liked to get in. but interesting, for a second day keeps it going and donald trump played into it. i am sure asked about it on fox news but comments continued the narrative. >> no question about that. what was so brilliant about what hillary did and how is she brought it up at the end and he had started to take the bait the whole debate the first 30 minutes so i think she knew he would glom onto it and exactly happened. reason i think it's damning is does a couple of things, reminds latinos about the vicious comments he's made about latinos, immigrants, muslims,
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women in general. reminds the american public this is a man who has demeaned so many people in america and what kind of example is that going to set for your children? i have a young son and daughter at home. what example do we set giving this man oval office who thinks nothing of dehumanizing women and immigrants. what does this teach our son? is that okay in terms of treating women? i think that's a very clear message and brilliant contrast between his and her character. >> i wish there was a fact cherk at debates to fact check clinton to point out what our reporter brian todd said, allegation. you fact check machado, ap story, ex-universe accused of threat. judge said woman called him and
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threatened to end him and his life. >> also an "economist" story. he's a he said/she said. >> is isn't. >> there is a recording on howard stern where he goes on there to call her an eating machine. from that in terms of fat shaming her in front of reporters to calling her miss piggy is not a jump. >> it's allegation. >> calling her eating machine and someone who likes to eat -- >> not any better. >> people say that about mechlt i like to eat. >> while forced to work out in front of reporters. >> wasn't forced. >> she worked for him. >> no. >> yes, she did. >> how do you know that? worked for him. employer. she said she was afraid of him,
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take her at word or not the point here is that the clinton campaign knew that he would take that bait. because they saw what happened with the khan and the gold star parents and day after that he went on television and talked about his own sacrifice and asked the question why the mother didn't speak. and think that he fell into this just the way they thought he would because he can't help himself. >> does it give you any pause that somebody is so easily riled and discombobulated by, you know, slights that happen in the world of politics all the time. >> i don't see it as discombobulated. outside of the mainstream media and political class, a lot of voters watched and said did a good job.
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i agree that donald trump didn't lose on the hillary clinton didn't win any. i think he didn't seem rattled but like american -- >> he did seem rattled and taken off his game and this story is big part of this. i know alicia machado, she's a community activist, talking about doesn't have the character of commander in chief will be powerful for women and latinos. just one thing on the story, accusations against her. >> on record saying it. >> she just became a u.s. citizen. do you know how tough it is to pass that background check? >> we had two refugees setting off bombs, can't be that hard. >> but it was accusation and he said open -- new reporting back from 1999, whenever it was.
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>> on record saying she called me and threatened my life during a case. >> you can be accused of something but never charged or put on trial and found guilty. >> as law student i know we're talking about third-party hearsayy, it's her. >> we're talking about fat shaming, completely different. apple, orange. >> calling her an eating machine in public on the radio? >> i'm eating machine. i don't take offense to that. >> he did it to demean her. >> so let me ask you this, if you gained 60 pounds and your employer said to you or said about you in front of a room of reporters, this one likes to eat, she's an eating machine, you're telling me that would feel okay to you? >> she was not forced to do this. >> didn't say they was. standing in room full of reporters, you've gained report, you're in room of reporters,
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your employer says to the media, this one likes to eat a lot. eating machine. you're telling me you would be okay with that. >> i'm on eating machine. >> come on. >> i'm not okay with secret service. >> you know what -- >> don't want to talk about -- >> stop deflecting. >> we talk about allegations to trump we have to talk about allegations to hillary clinton. >> but donald trump should have brought up allegations. >> he should have. >> i get you're incredibly smart person and able to bring this up, just surprises me that the candidate himself didn't think on his feet to bring up anything. >> brought up e-mail scandal more. i agree with you comments this morning continued the story and shouldn't have. but this is a case of hearsay and voters deserve to hear about issues. >> other reason this is damning is any man with a wife,
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daughter, mother, a lot of women go through this in terms of self-image, going to be relevant and compelling to anybody. >> see if it moves the needle. thank you. despite many saying hillary clinton won -- and going to talk to miss machado in the next hour, despite many saying hillary clinton won last night, donald trump is saying he did the best job. many supporters agreed. caught up with them and asked why. ♪
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donald trump has wrapped up his first rally since last night's debate. gathered in airport in melbourne, florida, randi kaye asked how they thought he did. >> among the trump faithful at this florida rallies was little doubt who won the night. >> held his composure strong. she tried and gave it her all but i don't think he bought it. didn't fall into the trap. >> do you think he was prepared? >> i do. he's prepared for everything.
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>> do you think he made any mistakes. >> no. >> but interesting admissions. when hillary clinton suggested that donald trump may not have released tax returns because he hadn't paid federal taxes, trump seemed to admit it, calling that smart. some supporters jump to his defense. >> he's paid his taxes, just doesn't want people -- >> how do you know that. >> people would know if he hadn't. >> i try to pay as little as i have to. don't you? >> a handful of reporters got tired of debate questions, asking us to talk to military mom. got ugly. calling us vultures. >> it's a -- >> you're here about hillary clinton and we're here about trump and our military. >> i'm here about trump as well. >> you don't have a heart.
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>> give her personal space. >> police stepped in but tensions remained high. pushed ahead with issue about birtherism, asked in the debate, he said he had nothing more to say about pushing that narrative. >> question was answered. >> but to some the conspiracy theory still lived. >> i would prefer explanation from president obama. never got one. >> where does he explain. >> where he's born. show the birth certificate. >> he did. >> no. >> what about when miss clinton chided trump about referring to miss universe contestant as miss piggy and housekeeping because latino. >> does that bother you? >> silly. nothing to do with the election. so many important issues in the election. >> this woman not offended
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either. do you think he respects women? >> yes. >> and clinton hit trump for voicing support for inraiding iraq and calling climate change a hoax. denied doing either, despite he said both. this supporter forgiving, especially on climate change. >> and china was behind it. >> al gore is behind it, getting rich off it. >> doesn't bother you? >> because i would have told the same thing. that's a hoax and a half right there. >> and despite cnn's poll showing clinton had the stronger night, couldn't find anyone here now voting for her. >> hell know. i'm voting for him. he's my man. >> joins us now, how did it end with the supporter yelling at you? >> reporter: well the police did step in and basically told her to get out of my face, stop
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yelling, media had a right to be there but calmed down but got the crowd worked out. had to stop doing interviews and wait for new people to come in who didn't see the altercation. seen this before. donald trump supporters are fiercely loyal. even those who haven't been republicans very long. spoke today to life-long democrats and independents who are voting republican to help elect donald trump. all believe what trump said on the stage that he has gt right temperament, don't think he's thin-skinned and going to press the nuclear button. thinks the man for the job. >> going to have a glass of wine tonight randi? >> for sure. >> up next, more moments from the debate and sniffles heard around the world. what was going on with donald trump?
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most assumed a cold or allergies. mr. trump has another explanation. body expert weighs in and on how both candidates did in the eyes of viewers. next.
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than 80 million people watching last night's debate you probably noticed something about donald trump. >> is that okay? good. [ sniffle ] i want you to be very happy. it's very important know. [ sniffle ] but in all fairness to secretary clinton the nafta agreement is defective. [ sniffle ] >> we cannot let it happen. our country's in deep trouble. [ sniffle ] >> what they're doing to us is a very, very sad thing. they're taking our jobs. >> let me give you the example of mexico. [ sniffle ] they have a vat tax. >> mr. trump's sniffling became a viral sensation. but the reason behind it is still up for debate. people ofrn social media speculating he was suffering from anything from allergies to a cold to something else. this morning on fox & friends the republican nominee denied he was even sniffling at all. >> no. no sniffles. no. you know, the mike was very bad. but maybe it was good enough to hear breathing. but there was no sniffles. >> so you don't have a cold? >> no. no cold. >> okay. >> every once in a while, but no cold. >> a body language expert and
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physician dr. jack brown joins us now. first of all, what do you make of the what appeared to be sniffling? >> most likely it's due to anxiety. people will sniff like that when they have a high level of anxiety. although sometimes you will see a deep sniff, intake, a deep respiration like that when people are in the middle of contempt. like this. or when they tell a deception. sometimes you'll see that. but he did it at least 40 times deeply i counted and a bunch of other times less deeply. >> it was the first time that clinton and trump had interacted in person as candidates. i think a lot of people were wondering how that would go. i want to take a look at how they each greeted each other off the top and let's talk about what you think their body language said. [ cheers and applause ] >> so what do you make of this? >> if i was counseling mrs. clinton, i would tell her she should have turned a little more toward mr. trump. mr. trump shook hands like he
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often does. he pulls the other person in toward his torso. so i would say he could have done that for intimidation purposes. but that's his normal m.o. he also patted her on the back. and i would have recommended against that. and by her -- by him going in her personal space like that, that was offputting to a lot of people. >> it seemed almost immediately donald trump was drinking a lot of water, which is something he kind of made fun of marco rubio for in the past. and he continued to do it throughout the debate. and i don't think secretary clinton that i saw drank any water at all. >> i agree. i counted 11 for mr. trump and secretary clinton zero. which you know, it's a normal physiological response when you get nervous that your throat gets dry. so the fact that she didn't need it means that she was very much in her game. >> i want to look at hillary clinton when the issue that's really dogged her this entire debate, or campaign, came up. her e-mails. what stood out to you about her body language during her answer?
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>> i think that was when she got most nervous, she displayed most anxiety. her rate of blinking went way up. and when you are anxious, when you're nervous, your blink rate goes way up. and hers did. and she had more extended blinking too. so for longer duration. she also tilted her head back. so that was -- those were signals that she was getting most anxious about that section of the debate more than any other. >> when donald trump's taxes was brought up, what did his body language tell you then? >> he had a definite -- his mouth went into a fear expression. and that was one part -- >> a fear expression. >> the corners of the mouth went back and down. he also rocked back and forth on his feet laterally several times pretty quick. so -- if you watch it, it's quite noticeable. that really got to him, that section. >> also, as far as how the two candidates were standing during
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the debate, what stood out to you? >> mrs. clinton, she stood with her shoulders square most of the time. donald trump, if you notice, he bent down to that microphone a lot, which he shouldn't do. that microphone's good enough to pick him up from there of course. he also was italy itting forward at waist even when he wasn't bending down. his torso was also turned toward her. so all these things make him look like he's subordinating himself to her alpha. he's looking like a beta to her alpha. he shouldn't have done any of that. so that's -- she stood, though, with her shoulders square. and when she looked over at him it was just her head turning, not her whole torso. by doing that she maintains her alpha status. >> how would you grade both of them? >> i would give donald trump a c, and i'd say secretary clinton an a-minus. >> you're not talking content. you're talking body language. >> just with the non-verbal.
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just with the non-verbal. nothing else. >> it's so fascinating to look at this body language stuff. jack brown, thank you so much, appreciate it. >> thank you, anderson. >> still ahead in our next hour, hillary clinton, donald trump hitting the campaign trail, running just hours after the most watched debate in american history. both claiming victory, neither one backing down. the latest from both campaigns when we continue. plus b vitamins to help convert food into fuel. one a day. redid you say 97?97! yes. you know, that reminds me of geico's 97% customer satisfaction rating. 97%? helped by geico's fast and friendly claims service. huh... oh yeah, baby. geico's as fast and friendly as it gets. woo!
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