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he voiced hope for unity in the wake of this horrible shooting. >> i'd like to take a moment to again send our thoughts and prayers to my friend and the friend of most of us in this room steve scalise. and his great family as he continues his very brave fight. it's been much more difficult than people even thought at the time. it's been -- he's in some trouble. but he's a great fighter and he's going to be okay we hope. >> as i noted we've learned within the last few minutes that congressman scalise is back in surgery as doctors deal with internal injuries caused by a rifle shot that entered through his hip, went on to shatter his pelvis and injure several internal organs. >> you want to go in and stop what is bleeding and that may involve going back and forth to the operating room and replacing
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blood that is lost. these types of injuries, because you're talking about a rifle injury, a high velocity mu ni s munition, it causes significant blast to the body t.'s going to address several operations. it's going to be a long road before he can bear weight. >> the gunman was shot dead at the northern virginia ballpark a few miles from here. the skoesocial media postings dl his anger at president trump and at republicans including a facebook post critical of ca lease. from illinois but had been in the d.c. area living in his van. trying to retrace his steps. trying to understand how this man had the early morning ambush. they recall frequently seeing
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him at the ymca. >> i described him someone that was very calm, that was sane. didn't -- wasn't -- didn't seem depressed or disturbed about anything. one day last week i noticed when he was in the shower area his gym bag, which was a big bag, office wide open and i happened to just look over and i could see that, you know, it looked like he was living out of the bag because he had clothing and books and everything. which people don't normally carry around with them in the "y" to come to the gym every day. >> in addition to whip scalise, one of the two police officers who prevented a massacre remain hospitalized. zach barth was in center field when the gunfire rang out. >> there was nowhere for me to go. there was no gate. nothing like that. so i made myself the smallest target possible. laid on the ground. th then i saw him turn his gun towards me. he started firing. everything around me started to
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pop. i felt a sharp burning pain in my leg. looked down. i had been hit. at that point adrenaline was pumping through me and my fight or flight reflexes took over and i decided if i wanted to live i needed to get better cover. so i sprinted down, i literally ran for my life. >> zach barth there with the republican congressman roger williams who hurt his ankle also trying to get save protection. the practice was for an annual charity game, democrats versus republicans and that game will go on. playing shortstop or somewhere in the infield, the first term michigan congressman zack burgman who was at that field yesterday. appreciate your time today. i want to start by your whip steve scalise, back in surgery for a third time. i know the republicans had a meeting this morning. did you get any kind of update on the sense of the prognosis? three surgeries, internal jr injuries, a bullet passing through his pelvis. >> the ongoing prognosis and the
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change, basically he's in the care of the finest health professionals in the world, to try to report we'd be five minute behind what's happening. he's in the care of the most capable hands possible. >> you got no sense that this was a turn for the worse. just something that's going to take time because of the significant? >> and i would call your attention to my tie which has the pelican on it, the state bird of louisiana which is an honor of steve scalise today. >> amen for that. tell me about the meeting this morning. we know republicans met yesterday. democrats hosted a dinner. the democratic team hosted a dinner for republican members. there's a lot of shock. there's a lot of conversation. we'll get to that in a moment. just your general sense, you were there yesterday morning. >> i was. >> that's just 24 plus hours ago. what goes through your mind? did a night's sleep change your perspective at all? >> not really. it maybe clarified some things as you process it. right after the incident yesterday, we as the team members spent some time gathering on a little basketball court right off the field to
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pray, to see who else needed help within the group, and we kind of did the same thing this morning at the conference. we came together as a group to discuss where we were individually and how we move forward collectively. >> congressman scalise is one of the most powerful men in washington so a lot of conversation is about him being in the hospital. i don't want lost in the story the heroism of these two capitol police officers. his detail that rushed on to the field. do you think you would be here talking to me today if they had not rushed on to the field? >> no. not only if they hadn't rushed on the failed but if they had failed to take the gunman down i went be talking to you today. the last say, if you will, in how we defend ourselves to the end. >> they hide in the shadows behind lawmakers. that's their job. but they shouldn't be forgotten. one of the conversations in town now is what will become. the speaker was emotional yesterday saying we are one
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family. nancy pelosi saying i associate myself with his remarks, something she's never done before. actually drew a little laughter. do you believe -- washington probably con founds you in many ways coming from the midwest and coming here. i'm glad we can laugh about this a bit on a day still filled with sadness. but do you believe -- i don't doubt it's genuine. i don't doubt the shock or commitment to trying to dial the rhetoric back is genuine, but do you believe it will last? >> well, i believe there's the opportunity for it to last. most people viewing this around the world today have no clue that three weeks after the 115th congress was sworn in the freshman class, bipartisan, signed a commitment to civility. it didn't make the news. we stepped up as a freshman class saying we're better than this and we are going to move forward with se vil tecivility. we are making tough zigdecision but do it in a bipartisan manner, not a hateful manner.
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>> republican congressman steve king on the miasimon conway shoi do want to put some of this at the feet of barack obama. he contributed to dividing us. he focused on our conferences rather than things that unify us and this is some of the fruit of that labor s. that appropriate? >> i come from a culture of the marine corp and the culture of the marine corp is to come together, not to divide. so i really probably wouldn't provide comment on that because i'm not focused on dividing. i'm focused on uniting. >> where does your sense of where we go from here in the terms of do you think you need more security when you go back home or do you think you need more security when you're here in town? >> well, i think security -- we have a personal sprnlpersonalit. i'm an airline pilot by trade. on 9/11, 2001, our lives across the country changed, especially those of air crews and the
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understanding of new security rules necessary to protect not only the crews, but the passengers, i had that moment 16 years ago. some of the folks in our country right now are having this moment for the first time. and the ability to protect ourselves individually rather than having to rely on someone else is something that i cherish. to i believe that i would like the opportunity to be able to protect myself as a congressman. >> but obviously you're here -- we're sitting in the district of columbus yachlt y columbia. you can't have a concealed weapon. do you think you should have a detail? only the leadership gets that right now. if whip scalise's detail had not been there, we'd be having a different conversation. >> that's correct. >> do the protocols have to be discussed or would that be an over reaction? >> i think we have to continue the discussion so that everybody in a leadership position or a position to influence understands the nature of the future threat. >> you mentioned your nine 11
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experience. i've been in this town after the shooting of congressman gabby gifford back in her district. i was here when the gunman ran into the capitol shot & shot police officers years ago. i was covering the white house on 9/11. you get moments of unity and each is a little different. go back and check the history books and news accounts, whether it's weeks or months, that dissipates and the rhetoric comes back. how in your experience, having been through this in the private sector as a pilot, how do you make sure that doesn't happen this time? >> number one, in the airline industry we made adjustments, understanding the motivations. >> what adjustments do politicians need to make? >> they need to be realistic to the threat that we are not -- we are not immune to anger, hate that is built up and the question is how does that get built up or how does it get dissipate snd w dissipated? who plays a role. the media i believe plays an
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important role going forward to making sure that the informing people, picking your words carefully, making sure that people who might have, shall we say, edgy views don't take what is being said or heard in the media and take it to the extreme, which they will. >> invite me to one of those civility meetings and i promise i'll cover it. to that point as we close, because of the vitreol about health care, they started limiting the town halls. i assume after seeing a colleague shot, two staffers shot, the natural reaction of any congressman, democrat or republican, would be to pull back. how do we figure out how you can interact with your constituents back home? they have every right to vent and scream at you. how do we strike the balance where constituents can praise you, ask you questions, can sometimes yell, but we also make sure you are protected. >> great question.
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back in april we had two town halls in my district. in both cases there was a small group who complained about the level of security too much in their mind. i would suggest we will continue with town halls and they'll see the same level of not more security because of recent situations. >> who's going to win the game tonight? >> republicans. >> appreciate your comments. are you glad they're going forward? >> no. we're going to raise over $600,000 tonight for great charities, helps disadvantaged kids. this game will go on as a chartabchair itable event. >> up next more news on the shocking ambush. but new details on how the special counsel is looking into potential obstruction of justice.
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vitriol vitri . welcome back. new details today about the scope of the special counsel investigation of russian election meddling and they are ominous these details for the trump white house. special counsel robert mueller visitors now want to question three top intelligence officials, the director of national intelligence can coats, national security agency chief mike rogers and the recently resigned number two richard ledgett. the special counsel wants to know if president trump asked them to intervene with fbi leaders in an effort to shut down the investigation and if he asked them to make public statements designed to help the white house dismiss the legitimacy of the investigation. you might recall coats and rogers told congress last week the president never pressured
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them but they refused to answer when asked if the president had asked them to help or to in any way describe their conversations with the president. >> why are you not answering the questions is there an invocation by the president of the united states of executive privilege? >> not that i am aware of. >> why are you not answering? >> i feel it is not proeappropr. >> what you feel is not relevant. >> wa"wall street journal" repos that he said the president wanted rogers to deny any collusion between the kremlin and trump associates back in 2016 and that the president also questioned the intelligence community's unanimous conclusion that russia had used cyber and other tools to meddle in the 2016 election. with me to share their reporting and insights, jackie kucinich, mary katherine ham and dan. dan, i want to start with you.
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veterans of past administrations doesn't know where this goes. but the special counsel is now looking at conduct by the president of the united states. not 2016 candidate satellite associates. tells you we're in a new chapter. >> we are. in many ways this was inevitable after the firing the james comey and after the testimony of james comey. i think he indicated that robert mueller would have to in a sense resolve this question of was there an obstruction of justice. so in that sense, it's not a surprise. but it has to be unnerving to the white house even if they could see it coming. to have an investigation aimed directly at the president of the united states. not simply at his campaign or associates of his campaign, not looking into what russia did, putting aside whether it helped or didn't donald trump win the election. this is now focused on the president of the united states. we have not had a situation like this in years and years and as you say, it is an ominous move even though we don't know where
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it will end. >> you're right . it's premature to conclude -- >> even if it ends with nothing or if the president had conversations he should have known better but he didn't cross any legal lines, you have cabinet people who will be interviewed by special counsel. that means their chief of staff will be interviewed, the person who placed the phone call will be interviewed. anybody else in the room is going to be interviewed. that means month. >> in many ways the president brought this to himself very recently by not being able to let this go and let the process work out. >> not trusting comey. >> not trusting comey. not trusting the intelligence agencies. he really did just keep on picking at this. the same thing he did in many ways with his ban, his travel ban. he kept on talking about it. he keeps on scratching at it and it makes the situation worse why is why his advises are telling
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him to dial back and he's not listening. >> the lawyers also want to be careful because, again, there's legal jeopardy and anything he says in the middle of an investigation, but the president on tweeting this morning, they made up phoney collusions with the russian story, found zero proof so now they go on -- you are witnessing the single greatest witch hunt in political history led by some very bad and con fli conflicted people. if i was under investigation, i don't think i'd call them very bad and conflicting people. >> this is the kind of thing that gives members of congress, the people he needs to be his allies, heartburn. it's the thing that makes them worry when they step off the subway and see reporters. it's the kind of thing that makes it harder and hard are for them to say i'm going to stand by the president and erodes his ability to have a conversation with him where he can keep things close to his chest and he can be even tempered. it's dangerous. >> does it also give his base
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faith that the president is fighting, that the establishment is trying to undermine your presidency, leaking constantly to take you down, fight, mr. president? >> perhaps. i think that's part of what he's doing. he's also being trump which is what got him here. i understand we sort of saw this coming with comey's testimony. i've long thought there may be very little there with the actual russia -- the allegation of collusion. but that once you get into these investigations and you have a principal here who is not careful with his words, that's the bigger danger as you start getting into these legally problematic conversations. and then you get stuck in one of those. that's the road that we're now headed down. >> you mentioned democrats sometimes out over their skis about the collusion. yes, there are meetings. undisclosed meetings.
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ja jared kushner didn't disclose. that's all being looked into. democrats ahead of the fact saying there's collusion. as the some counsel investigates, bob mueller is looking at financial ties. what starts over here in these investigations can go here and here. as this plays out, the president lashing out on twitter, an associated press poll out, has tried to impede or obstruct the rush investigation. yes, 61%. no, 37%. the trump base, no. but again, we don't know what happened. but if six in ten americans think there president is trying to impede an investigation, that's a problem and not just about the investigation. that's a problem when it comes to everything. >> although again i think we have to be cautious about some of these poll findings because on almost any question you ask about president trump you're going to get a roughly 40/60 split against him. right now that's kind of baked into the public. >> but if the cement dries, how do you cover? >> well it's very difficult to
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govern for the reasons you talked about, put aside where this all ends. maybe they're all exonerated in the end. b but the time and energy and heartburn this creates is debilitating on their ability to do things. >> members of congress when they're going home and starting to get questions about this instead of health care at their town halls, which they don't want to talk about anyway, but the more this seeps into just kind of the common -- the conversations that people are having over their dinner table, the worse it is for the people trump has to work with every day and that he needs to help push his agenda through congress. >> his unpredictability doesn't just stop at where this russia investigation lies. he had this big rose garden ceremony celebrating the house passed health care bill and then turned around and called it mean when he met with senators. so they don't know what to predict out of him on anything. that becomes difficult when you're trying to do things like tax reform and trying to do health care. trying to do a massive package
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without knowing what the president is going to back is really hard. >> the white house refers these to the president's private counsel. saying quote the fbi leak of information regarding the president is outrageous, inexcusable and illegal. now, i don't know if mark has information none of us has, but he says the fbi leak. this was something that came out in news reports, "the washington post" first and elsewhere after bob mueller met with members of the intelligence committee up here on capitol hill. i don't know where the leak came from. but the fbi leak, that is a political strategy, again talking to the trump base conservatives, trying to pin this back on comey as the president is now in essentially a war of wills and sometimes word with james comey. >> also many of these people have a right to be annoyed by the fact that things that leak are always the things that are bad for them. i think that is a fair point and something to be -- they're annoyed by. that's part of what's going on. on the polling question it's important to note that also comey himself said he wasn't trying to stop the investigation into what russia did in this
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election. he was concerned with his own sort of exxonration and for these people to leak or announce he was the guy. >> there is a caveat even on that which is he also said to lester holt i fired comey, i was thinking of this russia thing. that's a broad statement, what exactly he meant. he didn't i say got rid of him because the flynn thing was still bothering me. he specifically cited russia. he's clearly upset, angry that this russia investigation continues around him. and he can't let go of that. >> he has said 100% he's willing to sit down under oath and answers questions. i suspect when you look at the investigations, that one is down the road. the president would be among the last people questions. that looks almost certain. up next jurors in the big cosby sexual assault trial say they're
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deciding bill cosby's fate just announced they cannot reach a unanimous decision. it's not over. the judge has given some instructions on the fourth day of deliberations and sent them back to work. jean joins me live from pennsylvania where the trial is taking place. jean, you're in the courtroom when this all played out. take us inside. what happened? >> we got the directive that you just need to go swo sinto the courtroom. then we heard it was a question. still it was strange. we got in the courtroom. i saw the jurors file in. they were serious. they were focused. completely different demeanor from the trial as i have seen during deliberation. but one male juror had his hands crossed as he walked in sort of defiantly. there was another juror that i felt had a little smile on the face, just a small one. they sat down and the judge says i do understand that you cannot reach a unanimous decision on any count. remember there are three counts here of aggravated indecent
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assault. the judge read them what is known as the allen charge saying to go back in, you have a duty. i looked at both sides, defense and prosecution, completely serious. andrea constand has been in that courtroom as she has for all of the questions they've had. she shows no outward emotion at all. keeps everything in. but the thing that was very interesting was before the jurors even came in, for the first time ever, i saw the lead counsel for the defense walk over to bill cosby, sit down very close to him and literally whispered in his ear. i've never seen that during this trial. and it was extremely serious. at the end he patted him on the back. bill cosby was not smiling, but obviously the attorneys knew they had just come from the judge's chambers. they knew exactly what was about to happen in that courtroom. >> and jean, did the judge give any indication of sending them back in for the rest of today to try? is there a point at which the judge gives any indication of when he's done?
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>> a really good question. when the jury left, and they are deliberating right now, they've been deliberating for about an hour since they told the judge they could not reach a unanimous verdict, i heard the judge say to the attorneys i'm not going to set a time limit on this. that means that he's going to allow them to deliberate as long as they want and they could come back in with another note. >> more questions then. am i right? six questions so far? >> six questions so far. read back of testimony on all except one question of law. >> jean live for us outside the courthouse. keep in touch as the developments unfold. up income republicans and democrats in congress united in the wake of this tragic shooting, but can it last? be the you who doesn't cover your moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. be the you who shows up in that dress. who hugs a friend. who is done with treatments that don't give you clearer skin. be the you who controls your psoriasis with stelara®
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and steve in his own way may
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have brought some unity to our divide country. we've had a very divided country for many years and i have a feeling that steve has made a great sacrifice, but there could be some unity being brought to our turncountry. >> tpresident of the united states homing some cons t-- the an emotional meeting this morning opening with a prayer and receiving an update from the sergeant at arms about, among other things, security for tonight's baseball charity game. there's still a sense of sadness and shock here as lawmakers and the congressional community try to make sense of a senseless act. >> we are united. we are united in our shock. we are united in our anguish. an attack on one of us is an attack on all of us.
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>> that unity theme very easy to find this day after as both republicans and democrats promise to think twice before escalating their words when debating policy differences. >> well, you know t kind of cut through all the nonsense we talk about every day and the rhetoric we deal with every single day and it became very, very human seeing them later in a suit and tie on the house floor. there was nothing left to do but give them a hug. there was nothing you could really say that would be adequately deal with the situation. >> some of the rhetoric taking place out there in the political environment is too vitriolic. we give everybody a chance to step back and say wait a second, maybe there's a better way for us to do this. >> there's no doubt the shock is genuine. also no doubt the talk of being more republicspectful is genuin. we've seen this shock and heard this talk before. flashback six years just after
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gabby gifford was shot back home in arizona. >> an attack on one who serves is an attack on all who serve. such acts of violence have no place in our society. >> we do reach out to the other side and vice versa and if anything i think this tragic event will put a stronger grip on our relationships on both sides of the aisle. >> is there a chance that this one will be different after the capitol hill shooting? we heard talk like this after the gabby gifford shooting? i was talking to the congressman earlier in the program. after 9/11 throughout the country we had talk like this. then some time passes. intervening events happened and everybody went back to their ways. will this be different? >> i spoke to senator chris murphy yesterday and he as an outspoken critic of the nation's gun policies. he was saying he thinks we are beyond the point where washington responds to these shootings with any real need to
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change. he thinks that is -- we've seen so much of it at this point that weem will people will be upset, they will come together, but that is not really changing anybody's minds. >> in the past we've lapsed into the debate about gun control. i don't question at all the genuineness of the belief of the politicians saying we need to change our gun laws and you have republicans running congress and even in the wake of this, i don't think anybody here thinks we're going to have any passage of gun control. normally some policy fight, policy divide comes front and center. what about the question of respect? you do hear it, again it's very genuine the day after that maybe we should talk, get to an etch other better. the baseball event is one of the few events left where they did social myself more, democrats and republicans. they knew spouses and kids. this is one of the last events left where you have democrats and republicans sharing a joke for a good cause, sharing a beer for a good cause. will we get more of that? >> that's part of what made this
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attack more horrific because it was attacking this moment where people do come together. look, i do not think that there's going to be great comity after this. after the days of honest grieving there is a cynical strain in this to fit in whatever policy prescription you care for and pick whatever villain works for you and ride those hobby horses to town. look, conservatives yesterday i was saying i think it's problematic when we get into rhetoric because it leads to violence. you pick the rhetoric you don't like and say you can't say those things anymore. conservatives are rightfully angry about what happened after the gifford shooting where it was blamed without evidence on palin's electoral map and speech when it had nothing to do with that. new york times perpetuated that lie in an editorial today. i still think and i caution speech, political speech is valued in this country. we have a lot of leeway.
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insightment is a real thing. if you start making those conclusions, that's a bad road to walk. >> there is something about tapping down the rhetoric. >> one of the issues of that when you have the conclusion is that people are, a, looking in the rearview mirror. steve king did a radio interview where he blamed president balrak obama. lay it at the feet of the last president. now here's mark sanford saying i think president trump shares some of the blame. >> i would argue that the president is partially, again, not totally, but partially to blame for demons that have been unleashed, whether it's what i saw at a senior center back home and people saying "f" you and "q" you a "f" you and at a retirement
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center where they'll see people playing croquet the next day. the fact that you've got the top guy saying i wish i could hit you in the face, that's bizarre. we ought to call it as such. >> i don't think anybody can forget whatever grievance they have about something that happened last week, last month, the last campaign, the last president. is there a way for these guys to let guys leading the political dis-court discourse and put that in a box and put that away and start fresh looking out the windshield, or is the rearview mirror always the trip wire? >> i think the competition we're going to now have is well, your rhetoric is worst. that's the competition we're going to have now. i think it leads us down a bad road. >> there is a level of disrespect that exists today that didn't exist in the past. and whether it's fear here in t capitol or around the country.
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we see it in a variety of ways. one thing we know is that people view the opposition in much more negative and in many ways personal ways than they used to. and that's -- that took us years to get to that point. it will take years to pull back from that. an event like this reminds people of some of the commonalities we have, whichever side of the spectrum we're on. but the other aspect of it is when you go to the specific policies, republicans want their agenda. democrats want their agenda. there is at this point very little space in the middle to compromise those two agendas. so when you get back to these fights it's kind of an all or nothing. that perpetuates the idea that somebody is a villain. >> somebody's mean, somebody's evil and it escalates from there. i want to move to today investigators trying to piece together the portrait of a gunman deciphering how jamhe we to massacre a congressman in cold blood.
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filled his facebook page with post threatening trump. trump has destroyed our democracy. it's time to destroy trump and company. secret service spokesman told cnn yesterday the shooter's post did not rise to any level that would put him on the agency's radar. our senior law enforcement tom fuentes. tom, the challenge -- this shooter is dead. nobody can interview him. what can investigators do hopefully to crack cases down the road to retrace the last few weeks, the last few months to figure out how did he go from an angry frustrated citizen, there are many of those, to someone who was willing to take a firearm, come to washington, d.c., and target congressmen? >> john, that's a huge part of the investigation right now is to determine, you know, the evolution of his thoughts if they can figure it out to what led to him shooting yesterday. the problem is at what level do his friends, neighbors, colleagues, have a clue that he might do this in addition to the postings to corroborate the
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postings on social media, or is this all in his head in which case law enforcement is not in a position to read his mind. so they look at and especially secret service, they look at thousands of these on a regular basis and they have to evaluate on the continuum at what point does this go to where it crosses the line of they need to send agents out to find this person and talk to them. and then even then if all he's doing is rhetoric like this and not being specific as to apply, there's only so much they can do with that. so that's where the problem's going to come in is they're going to be looking for what might have been missed that could have been done, that wasn't done. but they may not even find that for sure. >> so help the lay mmen out the who's learning about this. he pulled a gun on a congressman and staffers and tried to kill them. he had multiple scrapes with police. he broke into a neighbor's home in the past.
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he was arrested for domestic battery and for fiviring his gu in the direction of neighbor's houses. then you have all the social media posting, things that are publicly available. some people would say why weren't those dots connected enough to get him on somebody's radar screen? but is that enough? >> i don't think so. at this point, we may learn more that it should have been. so far what you're looking at is all of these altercations that he had with family members, neighbors and the police, at no point did he ever get convicted of a felony which would deny him the ability to purchase and own these weapons legally. he didn't get to that point. and then the issue here is you have all these family members apparently a daughter pulled out of the house by her hair, another friend hit with the butt of a gun across his face, shooting in his back yard where the police get called because the neighbors are disturbed, but no one puts that together with apparently with the facebook
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postings and social media postings and then contacts law enforcement and says, you know, i'm worried about him. especially if they knew that he had moved to the washington, d.c. metro area which would put him in proximity with a lot of people such as what happened yesterday, the republicans practicing their baseball team. so i think that at some point peeve to see, you know, if someone should have known enough or knew enough about these threats that they should have called the authorities and then they could deal with t. but up until now i don't see it yet. it may come up with the investigation. we haven't seen it yet. >> we appreciate your insights as that investigation continues. we know they're still scouring the crime scene today. they're back in illinois talking to family and friends. up next a century old tradition. tonight's baseball game is perhaps the most meaningful and hopefully unifying we've ever seen. family's new, but old, home: it stood up to 2 rookies, 3 terrible two's,
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vitrio welcome back. two words to take on extra special meaning tonight. play ball. a rallying cry today for the whole of washington and i hope the country as lawmakers get ready to lace them up in today's congressional baseball game just one day after a deranged gunman
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nearly massacred republicans in the middle of an early morning practice. >> we need to play this game. it's baseball. it's america. when america gets punched, america punches back and we'll do that tonight. >> one of the congressman will be on the field even though he was injured yesterday. are you doing all right? >> doing okay. my injuries are slight compared to some of the folks who were shot. my good friend roger williams broke his ankle driving for cover. we're going to play tonight for america, for baseball and all the right reasons. >> and whip scalise, he would tell you to go ahead. >> he would. he's a great american. he's a toalented player. he would say play this game and give it your best. >> what's gone through your mind in the last 24 hours? this was a man who had anti-republican leanings.
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he had put them on social media. what's in your mind when you're thinking about this kind of animosity, this kind of hatred that you're having an early morning practice. >> it's a routine practice. we've done it for the last seven years. we don't even have protesters. it's so sad that someone would take violence into their own hands, open fire on innocent people where children are there, people coming from all over the country to see us and be with us and support us. it's so sad. when you can't be safe at a baseball field in america, something is wrong. this is clearly a deranged individual. thank god for the capitol police. they did an excellent job. they saved our lives. >> amen. i want us to talk mostly about tonight, your thoughts on tonight. take me back for a minute yesterday having -- once the adrenaline gets out of your system, maybe you're talking to your other teammates, have pieces of this puzzle come
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together in a way that's different for you today? >> i'm very thankful today. i realize how close i came probably for the first time in my life to actually being shot and killed. i've never experienced live and active gunfire like that. but i was just very fortunate that this gunman, who was very close to me, didn't choose to shoot me. and that could have happened. again, capitol police kept us as safe as they could. two of them were injured. but today i realize it's great to be an american. we still live in the greatest nation that the world has ever seen. and our freedoms, baseball, bill of rights. we can't let the bad guys win. i think that's a theme i have heard from republicans, democrats alike. and despite the level of the rhetoric, long before there were republicans and democrats, there were wigs, there were other political parties. there's been divisiveness in our country before. but our core principles are
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still there, are still great. i just hope and pray for a brighter day in the american future. >> you mentioned the bickering and argument. what do you think is different now that brings more of this? political violence, we can go way back, presocial media, pretelevision, political violence is as old as any form of government. what do you think is different now? >> i think now largely because of the technology and the 24-hour news cycle which has had tremendous benefits. i remember as a kid growing up i would wait to see news at night. now i think the fact there is so much coverage from so many sources and some people in america, whether in the entertainment business, in other businesses, tend to be a lot more vitriolic in their speech and what we have got to do as americans, and i think as elected leaders, is say we cannot have violence.
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that cannot be part of the equation. we have got to have vigorous debate. our founding fathers had it. we need to have that for the benefit of the people. but violence can never be part of that equation. >> your friend steve scalise loved this game. and i say this with all respect and as a compliment. he's a bit of a clown. he likes to play around. he teases the republicans as well as he teases more of the democrats. he can't be there tonight. you're going to be there. tell me bt gaabout the game and it matters more. it's a great cause. it raises money for d.c. based charities. what else is it about? >> it's about telling the american people that despite our differences we are all americans first and foremost. that our heart goes out. we have great values as american people. our heart goes out to representative scalise, to all who were shot, to all who were injured. but i want to bring a theme of optimism. one of the reasons i ran for office in 2010 was because i felt the country was going in the wrong direction. i want to see our optimism come
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back as a nation. i had a meeting with democrats just a few weeks ago, republicans and democrats came together on a topic, north korea. it was amazing. when i saw the will power, the brain power that we had at that table working in one direction, it was amazing. when we come together as americans, nothing can stop us. so my message for tonight is god bless america, god bless baseball, god bless the injured, but let's hope and pray for brighter days. >> amen to that. congressman, appreciate it. see the congressman on the field tonight. he'll have a hat saluting african-americans back home that's back on the field playing baseball. amen to that as well. thanks for joining us on "inside politics." after a quick break wolf blitzer takes over our special coverage. thank you. y282uy ywty
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