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>> we condemn in the biggest possible terms this egregious display of hatred and bigotry on many sides. >> you have a woman apparently killed by a nazi in the united states. yet, the president of the united states has not been as forthright in condemning that as he condemns the u.s. news media and politicians that he doesn't like. >> i have a message to all of the white supremacists and nazis who came into charlottesville today. go home. shame on you! >> tomorrow will come and we will emerge. i can promise you, stronger than ever. >> announcer: this is "new day weekend" with victor blackwell and christi paul. good morning to you. this morning, we are talking about that active domestic terrorism in charlottesville. the president is being criticized, not for what he said, but for what he did not say. >> now, remember, there was a woman who was killed here and at least 30 people were hurt, as
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clashes broke out at that white nationalist rally. kkk and confederate flags were flying and punches were flying as well. and then -- i want to forewarn you, this happened. this is hard to watch. it's very graphic but here is the video. [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> horrifying. i want to pause and look at this photo and just take it in. the man behind the wheel, according to his mother, drove from ohio to support the alt right in this rally and he is now charged with murder. cnn's kaylee hartung is live
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there. >> reporter: the cia is opening a civil rights investigation that killed one woman and 19 injured and some in serious condition. the graphic video that we have showing the car plow nothing a group of people who had come here to protest against white nationalists. this incident happened just off the downtown mall right in the heart of charlottesville. the suspect in custody, alex field jr., a 20 yearly here who came from the tloeoledo, ohio a. he is charged with second-degree murder among others. there were many eyewitnesses it the horror in the heart of charlottesville. i spoke with one. >> the car flew by and, immediately, you know, there was victims started coming out. my friend ran after the car. i gave first aid to a lady that
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had come out from the scene. i was standing about, you know, a few feet from him as he came back. a white male. appeared to have close cropped hair. >> reporter: after this deadly crash, fields and his car fled the seen and pursued by police and then apprehended. in an effort to learn more about the suspect and his beliefs, a couple of reporters went to his mother's home in ohio. it was the press who informed her of what her son is accused of. she was in disbelief and clearly processing the gravity of what she was learning. she said she knew her son had come to virginia to attend a rally. she was vaguely familiar with the nature of it. she told meethese reporters she asked her son to be safe and if he were to rally, to do it peacefully. >> caylee hartung, thank you for the live update.
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president trump condemned the hatred on what he called many sides. this failure to denounce white nationalism is outraging some. dan merica is live in new jersey near the president's golf club and more. we know there will be more rallies today. what are we expecting from the president today? any scheduled events? any scheduled addresses or speeches to the nation, still reeling? >> right now, nothing on the schedule for president trump. the pool of reporters who are here with him will gather today but it's unclear whether he will do anything at all. it's a beautiful day here in new jersey and many reporters expect the president to golf a day like this. we will continue to watch twitter if he comments at all. wat the president didn't say yesterday is what is getting the most attention. yes, president trump did condemn the violence, the hatred that we saw on the streets of charlesville yesterday but he didn't condemn the alt right and white nationalists that started
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loor a lot a lot of that violence. take a listen to what he said exactly. >> we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides, on many sides. it's been going on for a long time in our country. not donald trump, not barack obama. it's been going for a long, long time. it has no place in america. >> reporter: that equivalents between the white supremacists drew critics and democrats and republicans alike. cory gardner and orrin hatch and marco rubio said this. very important for the nation to hear potus describe events in charles shville a terror attackr what they are. what we saw from president trump
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was the bluntness that carried him into the campaign and his presidency and was foregone and went into vagueness. it's a difficult subject for president trump to tracy. we saw this during the campaign. many of these white supremacists groups to national prominence to a tough subject for him to deal with ever since he has been president. kelly jane torrance is with us, as well as julian zeleny, a professor at princeton university. thank you both for being with us. i want to read as dan was talking about there, what marco rubio wrote on twitter. a couple of others that are notable here. john mccain, senator john mccain for one wrote white supremacists aren't patriots, they are traitors. america must unite against
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hatred and bigotry. the president doing night and upsetting people for not doing so. at this point we are now close to 20 hours from hearing from the president in his first message. is it almost, at this point, kelly jane, too late for the president to come out? would it look disingenuous or is it still important? >> if he made a very strong and clear statement i think, you know, there are msome people think too little, too late but a lot of people want to hear the president condemn the people that committed this violence and condemn their ideas. yeah, you sort of think it's been a while, it's been a while. but, you know, the fact that this has been dogging him ever since the campaign as dan merica pointed out. we have been waiting for donald
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trump to condemn white nationalists and these people say what they are doing if my name and say they are supporters for him. we are waiting for them to strongly disavow them and it's amazing it's taken a situation like this, a fatality, for us to talk about this and wondering why the president won't just make a very clear statement he does not support these people. >> julian, on one hand, some people say i know why he's not making the statement, it's because loa lot of these people are his base. make it clear all of his base with not white supremacists. this group of people, this specific incident does bring to light the fact we actually have a picture of a man who was at the rally who has make america great again. we saw, yesterday, people come out with helmets, with shields.
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they were there for a confrontation. how does the president move forward without acknowledging this, julian? >> it's very difficult to see how he can do that. the answer is he can do it. he can accept the criticism and he cannot offer strong word of condemnation for what much of the country thinks is really intolerable in 2017. but the silence is saying a lot about how the president thinks about this particular issue. he can make a statement that is powerful, that addresses this. but it's been many hours now and for someone who tweets about individuals, about situations within second and does so with force, it's somewhat stunning to see the president of the united states not take a stronger stand. both about the violence, but also about the rally itself, which he really hadn't said much about. >> julian, let's listen here to
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what david duke said yesterday. he was there and somebody talked to him about their intentions for this group in this rally. let's listen. >> we are determined to take our country back. we are going to fulfill the promises of donald trump. that's what we believe in and why we voted for donald trump because ed he is going to take our country back and that is what we have got to do. >> first of all, ed take our country back. julian, what did they expect that meant? did they think he was going to reinstate slavery? just trying to wrap our head around what does this group expect taking our country back meant? >> well, i think, in some ways, it's a direct response to racial justice that has been a central mission since the 1960s, an effort to reverse some progress on civil rights. it's an attack on immigration and donald trump has appealed to
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nativism sfrart nativism start from his campaign. and to roll back the 1960s. that is what david duke is talking about. the problem is parts of donald trump's campaign and even his presidency have been sympathetic to a broader conservative ideology on these issues, and that is why this is so sensitive and touching such a raw nerve. >> kelly jane, your thoughts on that? >> well, i'd like to argue that -- you say conservative. i'd like to say, i mean, the alt right, it bothers me they are called that because they are not part of that movement and don't believe in anything that real conservatives believe in. which is equal rights for all and freedom. david duke really is nobody.
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when is the last time this guy held elected office? we wouldn't be hearing from him right now, except he seeps keeps putting himgs self as a support of donald trump and during the elect donald trump disavowed david duke and why we still hear from them. the president need to have a strong statement this guy and these people do not speak for me. they are not the kind of supporters i'm looking for. if he said that, it would be nice to see these guys go away and back into the hole they came out of, but we are still waiting for the president to do something like that. >> we will see what happens here. kelly jane torrance and julian zeleny, always aappreciate yopp insight. >> thank you we are we will talk to the mayor of charlottesville and how he thinks the community can move forward and what they have to do.
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who street? >> our street! >> cities across the country are holding marches to condemn white nationalists and the violence we have seen the last 24 hours in charlottesville, from atlanta to oakland, hundreds of people walked through the streets holding up signs and chanting. and do so again today. a peaceful vigil in nashville ended in arrests after protesters faced off with police. groups are planning solidarity rallies and marches in dozens of
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cities this afternoon. joining us to talk more about the reaction what is happening in charlottesville and what we are hearing from the president in new jersey, a cnn political commentator and professor at temple university and ben ferguson. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> ben, let me start with you. listen. you and i have talked off camera. you have no problem denouncing white nationalists and denouncing white supremacists and call them out by name. i've heard and seen you do it. are you satisfied the president has not done it? >> i think he has called out david duke. i think they are certainly moving forward. there are people who want him to call out and specifically say names that you just described. i don't have a problem with the president doing that. i think he probably should at this point, only because there are so many people that are somehow trying to imply that yesterday was a dog whistle or not enough or refusing to call them out. i look at the president in his
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words in a statement, it was very clear he was calling out racists and bigots, those that became violent. he used all of those word at the very beginning and i think that was -- there is many times people want there to be outrage when, in fact, the tragedy has already happened and there was outrage. i think the president's word yesterday were clear to me. ed these people are racists and bigots and no place in america for this. he strongly condemns them in the most strong way possible. now, if he comes out and gives another statement, yes. absolutely throw the names in there. ultimately what i think you and i and mark would all agree with this, we need this to calm down so that other people's lives are not taken and we need to make sure that this uprising, this unrest that has happened has put people's lives at risk can go away quickly and we can have a real conversation. i don't want anyone else to die and i don't want any other police officers to die while trying to protect people and their rights of free speech in
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this country. >> mark, ben says that some people heard a dog whistle are suggesting he hasn't said enough. did you hear a dog whistle was the president did say or did not say? >> of course, i did. it's really interesting because when you look at some of the comments on alt right, when you look at their response to president trump their response, oh, he didn't attack us, oh, he protect protected us, oh, he didn't throw us under the bus. i'll be specific about where and why. donald trump is somebody who has never been shy about using twitter. he has never been someone who has contained his outrage. he has never been disciplined with his fingers. but somehow those twitter fingers didn't show up when it came to the alt right or white nationalists or a defective clan rally. when someone says something that offends he may send 20 tweets
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out but when it comes to this issue he says very little and all of a sudden he wants to be measured. another piece of this, he said this is bad on all side, that this is evil on all side, this is wrong on all side. that suggests a equivalency between the people who are supporting anti-semitism and racism and those who are defending it and those who are trying to stop them. it suggested everybody is wrong. this is not a moment to say everybody is wrong. it's a moment to say the white nationalists and they are wrong. the fact he had to be pushed into this position is very telling and one more thing. the fact that it's a press conference ends, i avoids the tough questions about denouncing white nationalism. he avoids the david duke thing. it took him a long time to do that. president trump was saying you have to say terrorism, obama,
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say the word racist. >> hold on. let me read this tweet. david duke at the rally yesterday, we heard from him a few moments ago. he tweeted out to the president this. i'll point out the conversation of david duke, that interview with jake tapper the president later said he didn't hear what jake tapper was saying when he said i don't know who you're talking about, although he talked about david duke several years ago or before that and a news conference several days later will you disavow david duke? he said, disavow david duke? okay, i will disavow david duke. ben, to you. >> look. david duke is a guy that i'm not -- we have to stop covering and talking about a sick and
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vile disgusting human being like david duke. the only reason he gets on tv, the only reason he was on camera yesterday is because he tries to align himself with somebody that will then make it a controversy, that will then get him on tv. so i'm tired of david duke. i don't know why any of us give him a platform to then -- that may be fine 150 white supremacists, extremist crazy that might come around him. david duke is one of the no disgusting human beings in this country. we need to stop covering david duke because all it does is help him recruit people. now, i want to get back to something the president said at this press conference. when the president came out and said both sides, he had seen the videos. he knew there was violence that had happened on both sides. his simple boy poipoint was thi. he had just talked to the governor and made it clear there was a state of emergency declared in that state and, obviously, tensions and people were thinking the worst could
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happen last night. when he came out, i'm going to quote him. ed no matter our color, creed, religion or political party, we are all americans. that is a ounifying comment by the president we should be proud of. he said egregious displays of hatred. i don't know how much more you can get clear than that. bigotry and violence. he used bigotry and when you have a situation and state of emergency being declared, i don't think that is the moment for the president to come out and many people criticize the president for being maybe too blunt. i thought he was actually presidential. >> we are running low on time. mark, an opportunity to respond to that but keep it quick, if you can. >> again, this is a guy who says for eight years of obama presidency, mr. obama, say the word terrorism. mr. obama, name these crazy radical muslims. but when it comes to white nationalists he slows down and
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the fact ed all sides in the middle of a riot that is started by white nationalists suggest again we are all equally culpable here and we are not. this is a rally and melee of violence that began from white nationali nationalists. he need to call them out by name. they forced president obama through jeremiah wright with 30 pieces of silver and say, i can't recollect those i can't recollect those i can't recollect those i denounce david duke as comparable? absolutely not. president trump has shown nothing he is distant from the white nationalists and -- >> we have to wrap it up there. thank you both for being a part of the conversation. >> thank you, sir. >> let's also not forget these two virginia state troopers who are being mourned today. they were killed in helicopter
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crash yesterday. the governor considered both close friend. today would have been pilot bates 41st birthday. >> growing troubles betwee the president's chief of staff and his chief strategist. bannon is pursuing his own agenda at the white house and that is in stark craft contrast kelly's. kelly is considering another shake-up within the president's communications team now. >> we have said president trump is facing the criticism this morning for not specifically what he said, but what he didn't say about the domestic terror in charlottesville. cnn senior media correspondent brian stelter is joining us next to talk about this controversy. we will also talk with the vice mayor of charlottesville about what happened in his city yesterday and how he thinks his
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so grateful for your company. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victorblackwell. after a day of clashes at a white nationalist rally a car speeding through in charlottesville, hitting two others cars and those cars hitting people. a woman was killed as she was trying to cross that street and 19 others hurt in that attack and on top of that 15 people hurt during the rally. >> president trump calls for an end to the violence, quote, on many sides. he is criticized for what some call a muted response this attack on unarmed protesters. the suspect. we should point out 20-year-old
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james alex field jr. from ohio now being held on several charges. his mother did speak to a reporter yesterday and said she thought the rally he was going to had something to do with the president. >> she was pretty unaware of what the definition of alt-right was. i don't think she had a clear definition of what that would be. she said to me she doesn't try to get too much into his political beliefs and that, you know, she's not too well versed in his political leanings in any way. yeah, i don't get a sense she necessarily knew what he was headed for this weekend. i want to go back to the press conference yesterday. the president condemned the hatred, bigotry and the violence, he said. and he spread the blame.
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>> we condemn in the most possible terms this egregious display of hatred and bigotry on many sides. on many sides. >> here to discuss is brian stelter. >> good morning. >> you say this was the worst day of his presidency thus far. >> you could make the case based on the wide range of criticism that was coming in large part from the gop, from members of trump's own party. you would expect hillary clinton, nancy pelosi and other democratic leader to be tweeting and sharing criticism of the president for his words. and that happened on saturday. but it was the number of gop leaders who also implicitly and in many cases explicitly criticized president trump and called on him to do more. notice a tweet from ryan liz of the new yorker and cnn we can put up on the screen. many comments like this. i think lizzo said today is by far the most disgraceful day of trump's presidency.
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i think, partly, it was seen as a missed opportunity to do and say more. if you think back to president george w. bush visit ago mosque after 9/11 promoting unity with the muslim faith. if you think about president obama urging calm and responsibility on the night of the ferguson riot in 2014. there many examples of speeches you can go back and read from past presidents where they met their moment, where they spoke eloquently and at length in detail, and weren't weary  calling out things by name. all of the criticism of the president yesterday and now heading into sunday, the political chat shows, i think you can make the case this was his low point of the presidency. >> so it's a missed opportunity, brian. is it an opportunity that can be made up? or would it just be seen as too little, too late at this point? >> or too obvious, right, to reacting to all of the criticism. keep in mind the president on friday promised to hold a press
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conference on monday. he said he would have a big press conference on monday. let's see if he follows through on that event and an important moment and taken live by every network and he would have a chance to speak at length there. i also would keep in mind he is planning on visiting new york in the coming days and may provide more motivation and fodder for anti-trump protesters. the kind that were there in charlottesville yesterday and some of whom were run over by that man driving that vehicle. this criticism of the president may provide more motivation for the protesters so i'm curious sos if we see that sort of action in the coming days. >> what about john mccain, rob portman? they are all responding on twitter. they are using the terminology people were waiting to hear from the president. >> exactly. the gop leader, senators, congressmen, governors, mayors. when it's coming from your own party, i think why you can cake the case it was his worst day in office yet. those kind of judgments can
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sound kind of petty when we are talking about three lives lost in charlottesville and dozens injured but because of those injuries and deaths this was a in a moment president. we know there is a cable news feedback loop. we have talked about the president reacting what he sees on television but that didn't quite happen yesterday. there was a delayed reaction and then a full throat reaction. we have seen some segments of conservative media coming to the president's spoupport arguing lt wing violence need to be taken on. perhaps a new low point yesterday for the president. >> brian stelter, thank you so much, for getting up early for us. we appreciate it. there is a lot more to come from brian on "reliable sources" today at 11:00 a.m. on cnn. one person is dead and more than a dozens were hurt after that man drove through that crowd. now there are several white nationalists who vow to go back
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charlottesville, unfortunately, when people think of the name of it they think of an event first. when you hear ferguson you think of one thing and flint, and san bernardino you think of another event. what does this mean for charlottesville in the wake of the tragedy on saturday? >> before i can address your questions, it's important for not only myself but all of us to express our condolences and love and support to the families of those who lost their loved ones this past weekend. my heart is absolutely broken for them. to your question, what does this mean to charlottesville? i think it means that we have to stand united at all costs because white supremacy is not going anywhere.
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it appears that these individuals have to become empowered and emboldened. in order to for us to bring this city together but communities and cities from across the country, to be able to do, we have to stand united and i'm hoping that is what will come out of all of this and that is what people will do when they think of the great city of charlottesville, virginia. >> many of the protesters came. we know specifically on friday night to oppose a plan to move a statue of confederate jon robert e. lee there. >> no, sir. >> to move the statue? >> no, sir. this is not about them coming to move a statue. this is about white supremacy and -- >> understood. they came to oppose a move to a
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statue. will the statue continue to be moved or will that stay as the plan for the city? >> that has already been voted on. at this point, currently, undergoing an injunction and we are waiting for the local judge to render his final decision. we are going through that process but, yes, that plan will continue to proceed. but, again, i think it's important for everyone to understand and not allow these individual to mask their hate behind saying they are only coming to protest the removal of the statue. >> that wasn't my suggestion. my question -- my question was if the statue was going to continue to be moved, considering the protest we saw. we know they came to do more than just protest the statue. they came with shields and batons and helmets and i think that is understood by most people. let me get to one other thing here and i think we have the video of it. in the morning hours when we were live, there were these
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clashes between protesters and anti-protesters against the white supremacist rally. no sign of police here. are you satisfied with the response, the performance of local and state police on the ground here? >> i think it's important for us to still review a lot of what is coming in from the police department. there are still a lot of things that need to be reviewed. i haven't been briefed or anything of that nature, and, currently, right now, i don't believe it is best for me to comment on that subject at this moment in time. >> before we let you go, you've talked about ending hate and coming together. i've got to ask you about some statements of your own you've made on matters of race, tweets attributed to you in which you tweet in 2011, quote, i hate seeing white people in orangeberg. i don't like white people so i hate white snow and white women equal the devil. what are your views today?
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did you tweet those? how are you getting beyond, if you are, those comments that you've tweeted out? >> yeah, no problem. so the great thing i love about the city of charlottesville this is a city that helped me grow as a man. in 2011, i was 23 years old, 23 or 24 years old. at this point, i'm 30. i am a husband, a father. i've had the opportunity to have different experiences with a lot of different people. i'm not the same arrogant and, quite frankly, in many cases, just ignorant young man that i used to be. and i know that because of this city and the people who i've grown up with here since i moved here, and since i've been here the last few years, they have helped shape my viewpoint how we must interact and how we must grow. and i think it also states -- it speaks to the point that if i
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can grow out of that position and that mind state and kind of evolve, then i also believe that others can do the same. i've already spoken to the city of charlottesville and everything. it first came out last year, last november, i apologized to them and i know that to the city and to all people, it's not up to me to determine when they are supposed to give me their forgiveness. that is not for me to do but what i must do is take accountable for the word i spoke as a younger man and continue to prove to the folks at charlottesville and i think they know i am not the same person and i thank them for that growth. >> mr. vice mayor, city of charlottesville, thank you for speaking with us this morning. you had if you can change, your hope is the people we see on the screen can change as well. >> tensions are escalating between the u.s. and north korea. will the u.s. and south korea are taking steps to defend against a nuclear threat.
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as military threats mount between the u.s. and north korea one of the evangelical advisors is weighing in saying the president had the moral authority to take out the leader of north korea. the comments come after president trump vowed fire and fury against north korea if they continue to threaten the u.s. now here to discuss with me reverend bill. thank you for being with us. i want to read to you real quickly quoting a passage a scripture debated and when it comes tahow we deal with evil doers the bible in the book of romans is very clear. god has endowed rulers, god has given trump authority to take out kim jong-un. what would you say in responau
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trump in response to this? >> other scriptures talking about loving your neighbor and finding ways for peace and reconc reconciliation and perhaps the just war theory doesn't apply in this case. so, i don't necessarily agree with the pastor who tends to be, i think, on the evangelical side compared to my sort of view of the scriptures which take that scripture a little bit differently. >> i wanted to ask you. we wanted to get to the question of hillary clinton as we hear she's considering a future in preaching. you, i know, sent her devotions for a couple of years and a very poignant letter people can read on cnn.com the day after the election. but, tell us about -- is she really going to pursue preaching and what prompted her to even consider that. >> well, i think she's not going to pursue ordination in the united methodist church.
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but in our united methodist tradition we have very strong lay participation in preaching and the ministry of the church and we believe in the ministry of all believers and i believe she is going to do guest preaching and perhaps we need a preacher in chief right now that will talk about love and compassion and morality and building bridges and eliminating hate and intolerance and bigo y bigotry, like we saw yesterday in sharlecharlottesville. >> is there anything specific that you could advise president trump especially in light of what we saw in charlottesville that you might want tasay to president trump or advise him? >> i would remind him of some of the bible stories he would read of turning the other cheek and if you're asked to go one mile, go an extra mile. some good biblical passages for him to read right now. >> what about all the people in
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charlottesville who are vowing to heal. how do you help them heal? >> i would pray, first of all. and i do as a faith leader. i'm praying for all those people in charlottesville because it's terrible what has befallen that city and i would emphasize the letter from the book that was sent on november 9th. life may be difficult. there are dark moments in life, but out of the christian tradition, we believe that hope comes on sunday. it's a message of easter. i didn't compare hillary clinton to jesus, as some people have said. but i believe there will be a time that those three days between good friday and easter can be quite difficult. >> and, reverend bill, author of "strong for a moment like this" i believe coming out on tuesday. thank you so much for being with us. >> great to be here. thank you. >> thank you. and thank you, we always appreciate having your company in the morning. we're not sitting here alone. "inside politics" with john king starts after a short break. this golden opportunity features silicon
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neonazi there's bipartisan outrage and this. >> we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides. plus, fire, fury and more. >> he will truly regret it and he will regret it fast. >> an escalating war of w

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