[ applause ] good evening, i'm van jones. welcome to the van jones show. tonight we hear from two powerful women using their platforms to build bridges and find some kind of understanding,

which we dpritly need right now. one is working on the political level. ha 2020 contender. she hopes her more moderate views might take her all the way to the white house. her name is senator amy klobuchar. she is going to be here. i'm so excited to have her here [ applause ] >> also. we come on now, show some love. also we're hearing from a golden globe winning actress who is using her star power to shine the spotlight on mental health and on civil rights. everybody loves her on empire. taraji p. henson is in the building. so much greatness [ applause ] so much greatness to come. but first let's talk about the news once again we are facing a crisis of credibility and confusion. got big questions swirling around attorney general bill barr's four page summary of an almost 400-page report and now some of bob mueller's investigators have told associates that barr did not convey how damaging the findings

are for president trump. you got the house democrats, they have a subpoena ready to go to get to the bottom of this. trump says it's harrassment. in the meantime we are in the dark waiting to get truth and transparency. and there is honestly plenty of reason to be skeptical on anything coming out of the administration, because let's face it in too many cases the president makes stuff up. >> my father is german, right. was german. and born in a very wonderful place in germany. if you have a windmill anywhere near your cause congratulations your mouse just went down 7 5% in value. they say the noise causes cancer. there were a lot of close elections they seemed to every single one of them went democrat. if it was close they say the democrat -- there is something going on. hey, you got to be a little bit more paranoid than you are.

>> okay. first of all. trump's dad was born in new york. as far as the democrats winning all the close raises, tell that to andrew gillum in or stacey abrahams in georgia. both of them lost by raiser thin margins. democrats. as for windmills, first of all, they are wind turbines. it's not holland. it's not 1820. they can power a farm or neighborhood with zero pollution. that's better for values than a smoke stack. and that's why progressives stay skeptical. they think he is making up stuff for no good reason. what if he did have a good reason? what's in his tax returns, et cetera? second of all, a post fact america worries me. democracies run on good information. the white house doesn't even bother to correct trump's crazyiest claims anymore. i guess they figure his own support he is don't care how many whommers he tells. and who cares what the rest of

us think. all i know is it's bad for america. but here is the worst possible, possibly the worst part. trump is actually stepping on his own good news. just this week, i went to the white house to celebrate the first step act, which is a criminal justice reform measure that democrats and republicans came together to pass in december. since then, hundreds of people have been freed from federal prison already. thousands more are going to be coming home soon. and in the middle of the ceremony trump went way off script and did something amazing. he handed the mic formerly incarcerated whom the law set free np no warning no script and they talked for themselves. >> i never thought this bill would pass. i can't think -- nang shall enough for that. >> two months ago i was in a prison cell. and i'm in the warehouse. >> i got compassion it release for my daughter. she was diagnosed with cancer in september and they gave her a

grave prognosis. because of the bill and the first step act i'll be able to spend the rest of her time with her. and i thank you. >> thank you, sweetheart. you take care. >> beautiful, right. beautiful. real lives changed because politicians came together including trump and got something done. now to be clear the positive stuff doesn't erase the bad stuff. taking babies from the mother at the border. senseless attacks on transgenders in the military. but some good is happening. and if president trump would stop e checkers every day we might have more time to share some of that good news with you. now that might make too much sense. but that's what i think we should be doing. now, speaking of good sense, my first guest is a no non-sense senator known for getting good things done even in broken washington, d.c. today. please welcome to the van jones show my friend, senator amy klobuchar. [ cheers and applause ]

>> thank you. >> all right. >> it's so good to see you. >> thank you. >> congratulations. >> and thanks for wearing that purple for prince. minnesota. >> minnesota, yeah and thank you for everything you did for his family after he passed. you've just been an incredibly effective legislator in so many ways. you're running for president at a time when a lot of liberals and democrats trump will be easily beaten. but when you look at the economy, if it's the economy, stupid, can democrats win. >> first of allg for granted in this election. as we learned from 2016. >> yeah. >> and when i look at the economy right now, yes, it is stable. and because of our great workers in america and our businesses we have been able to get out of that downturn from over a decade ago. but it so hard as you know for so many families right now to

afford prescription drugs, afford sending a kid to college. you can go on and on. and so we still don't have the kind of economic justice we should have in in country. and i'm running for president because i think we shouldn't be governing from chaos every day. we shall see the moment in time as a time to seize opportunities, to get this stuff done like do something about climate change, and do something about our workforce training and immigration reform, things just sitting there. and if we don't act we're not going to keep being able to expand our economy and including more people in shared prosperity. >> i love what you are -- you are talk about substantive issues. let me get your feedback on something. i'm watching the house democrats. they're saying, look, we are subpoenaing -- we are going to have to subpoena to get the mueller report. we want the tax returns from donald trump. we want to know about the security clearances. all of this focus on what they call oversight.

is it overreach? are they overdoing it, getting in the way of you talking about substantive stuff or is this important, too? how do you see it. >> there are three branchs of government and we're supposed to do our job. that mueller report when you look at why we need to know what's in it. 90% of the public want to see it public. why? we had a foreign country invade our election, right. they tried to hack into our election equipment. they hacked into campaign's emails. i hate when people use the word meddling. they meddled process. that's my daughter is out there somewhere. there she is. >> give abigail a round of applause. >> there we are. [ applause ] >> she is -- she lives in brooklyn. >> yes. >> and she is 23. and meddling when people say you meddling -- it's what i do when i call her on saturday night to see what she is doing. that's meddle be opinion what

russia did was invade the election. in our report will be a way for the former director of the fbi heading up the investigation for people to figure out why do i care? because i want to protect the election in 2020. and pass my bill the secure elections act that is bipartisan with senator langford of oklahoma to be able to have backup paper ballots in every state in the union. if they do it again we have a way to prove what happened. >> that's really good. that's really good. do you trust bill barr? i mean, bill barr -- he put forward the four-page summary. he is the attorney general. do you trust him? >> i did not support the attorney general. i didn't vote for him, because i was so concerned -- he wrote a few months before he got named a memo 19 pages -- like a job application in which he basically espouses belief to have unlimited power for the president called executive power. that made me concerned he was putting in that position that

you're supposed to uphold the laws, not the white house. that's what makes me concerned. on the other hand i'm glad he said he is making the report public, and he is going to do it soon. i don't want to find out that redacted every sentence in the report. we are waiting to see what he does. >> let's talk about the race stuff. >> okay. >> you're out there, doing it. bernie sanders seems to be the front runner. is bernie sanders a front runner the kmktic primary. >> i think the polls show that. he is doing well. he has been out there a while. but i think competition is good for our party. >> yes. >> i think having a number of people running is great. i am personally excited we have so many women running [ applause ] >> as i lake to say may the best woman win. and you know, i come from a different place. i am literally sitting up here today as the granddaughter of an

iron ore miner and the daughter and teacher of a newspaper man, the first woman elected to the senate for the state of minnesota and a candidate for president. [ applause ] >> that's a beautiful -- that's beautiful, you know. and you also represent i think a different sense ability politically than does bernie sanders. are you the anti-bernie in a way? >> no. >> the moderate. >> why aren't you. >> i'm a proven progressive. i am someone who in the last few years i think donald trump -- he didn't notice it but he signed 34 bills into law where i was the lead democrat. time and time again i have taken on issues whether gun safety and ahead of my time on a bunch of things and get them done. i think what's really important and see you have someone that is not only a prgive and wants to move our country forward and has people's back. but someone looking you in the eye, tell you the truth and get it done. i think that's what the people of america want.

>> sounds like it. [ applause ] >> you know, that label, moderate, mused to not be something to run from. i think obama was proud of calling himself a moderate at times. is moderate, now, something that you have to lean away from in a democratic primary. >> no, i think people will judge people based on what they have done, what their record is, how they want to move our country forward. and i think you don't want to neglect this idea is that you want to put someone in place that can build the coalitions, that can at times work across the aisles in other places stand your ground, to be able to get things done. for me in the white house the first thing i want to do on day one is sinus back into the international climate change agreement process. [ applause ] >> i can do that without going to congress. i want to get a major infrastructure package. i want to take the grimes reform bill already passed the senate, push that forward and get it done. >> let me just ask about another

potential front runner, joe biden. there is this whole concern about him maybe being too touchy feely. how seriously should we take that. >> how do you evaluate the new concern about joe biden. >> i think he addressed that. he clearly put out a video and explained that he understood that he had done something that some did dsh some people women who have legitimately come forward and said i felt this wasn't appropriate and addressed it. and i'm sure he will continue to address it. >> um-hum. >> but going beyond that, when you think of the issues in our country we have come a long way. i was actually the chief author of changing the rules for the senate when if comes to sexual harrassment. they had crazy things in place where there was waiting periods designed not to help victims but help politicians. it's not just famous people, right. it's about the nurse in the hospital or the worker on the front line in the factory. and that's what we have to remember. >> so, i mean, substantive as

usual. but you feel that he has address to do sufficiently at this point. >> i think he has addressed it. i think people will continue to ask questions about it. and that's what our democracy is about. i really -- i hated -- the president messed around with it and put something out making fun of the vice president. i think it was undigny fieed what the president did. and i have always had a -- a good relationship with vice president biden. and of course, i welcome him to the race. if he gets in. >> if he gets in. >> we have so much to talk about tp coming up senator klobuchar has new ideas about criminal justice reform, something i'm interested in as we all know. we're talking about that and much more when we get back. [ cheers and applause ]

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>> okay. >> health care. way are you not for medicare for all? it seems that everybody is for medicare for all. and you say i'm for med tare for not all. >> i'm for universal health care which means everyone should have a right to health care. it's not a primeval it should be a right. i want to get there quickly. i would make sure first of all that we do something that president obama wanted to do from the beginning. and this is basically taking the affordable care act, leaving it in place but building on it because it was a dwing, not an end. and that means making sure we have an affordable public option that everyone will have access to. and that you could do it with medicare. or you could do it with medicaid. i would also do something about pharma prices which is now nearly when you include hospital pharma nearly 20% of the health care costs. why? because the pharmaceutical companies think they own washington. they don't own me [ cheers and applause ] >> and i believe that we can --

we can bring in less expensive drugs from canada. that's a bipartisan bill i have with senator grassley of iowa. and by the way we can see canada from our porch. so i see the less expensive drugs. and that creates competition and pushing the drug companies. medicare negotiation maybe some of the younger people they are like well why do i care about that? if you could bring down the drug prices for 43 million seniors, imagine the effect it's having on drug prices for everyone. >> everybody else. is your concern about medicare for all -- is it mainly political that you think it's just not popular enough with republicans? >> no, no. >> or is it principled? do you think the private insurance companies should play a good role? just -- >> i see it as something that we could do in the future but i think the best transition to it is to look first at having one of these public options which is exactly what we were trying to do at the beginning with the affordable care act. so it's not political for me. it is what is the best way to

get there and the soonest way that we look at that affordable care act. there is some things we could do literally day one as president we could get the reinsurance and cost sharing helping to bring down premiums then you move to the public option. >> what's the best thing about obamacare and the what's the thing you want tos it fix the most about obamacare. >> i think the best thing about obamacare was that people are no longer kicked off of their insurance for preexisting conditions. [ applause ] >> i mean, and now this is administration has said they want to do that again. it's unbelievable. no one is going to allow this administration to do this. >> yeah. >> that's one of the best things. because that affects everyone, not just the people -- so if you have private insurance that protection still protects you. the things that i most like to change right now is pharmaceutical prices nothing got done there. nothing has gotten done through a number of presidents. for me as president i will get it done. >> get it done. awesome. awesome [ applause ] >> okay. let's talk about criminal

justice reform. you were a big part of the first step act and you now say we need a second step. what more should be done on kim justice? >> as you no he -- and van you were so involved in this, such a leader. we had work across the aisle to get that done. i'm a former prosecutor. i thought it was important to have the voices in the mix. and what we did was tremendous things. but it is just the beginning. that's why we called it the first step act. 9 oh% of people incarcerated are in state and local jails and prisons across this country. so now we have to create incentives for states to do basically the same thing. that the federal government just did with federal sentencing. we have to make this cool. and sometimes making it cool means creating financial incentives. that's one thing. and the second thing i would do is just other changes that we need to see in the criminal justice system. i put out this week my proposal on clemency. that's something you can do in the white house to have a criminal justice reform person

in the white house, full-time. >> why that -- i think people don't even think about the fact that the president does have the opportunity and the right to look at some of the outrageous sentences and just do something about it. talk about clemency why it's so important. >> clemency gives a president or in states a governor, right, the ability to look at cases that maybe were -- seemed at the time where we're o where people were and look back and say this is egregious. and i would propose a clemency board advising me as president with people with diverse views from different parts of our country that would give me advice, in addition to the words from the justice department. that's important, there are prosecutors. you want to hear from them on the federal cases. but i think you need something more. and that's the clemency board. >> this clemency board kounds sounds very, very wonky. it sounds wonky but it could be a game changer because you have so many people in the federal system why did you give somebody 30 years, 40 years, 50 years for

a non-violent offense? that could make a big difference. however, you as a former prosecutor -- you know in the past you were seen more as a tough prosecutor. and so how do you reconcile your earlier views where you were kind of, you know on vandalism, tough op truancy, tough on people people with marijuana overs. that was a different kind of klobuchar than what i hear now. >> well minnesota tends to have -- we have racial skpart issues like every other jurisdiction. and i worked hard on those in terms of doing some new reforms with the innocence project to make sure we did eye witness id differently. i did a lot when it came to making sure other states heard our story that we taped interrogations to protect rights. then i diversified our office. let's face it there is racism in the criminal justice system there was back then and there is now. and so we can always do more and we can always do better.

and so for me when i was there, one of my top ways to get at that was with drug court, right the simple idea that people should be allowed not just second chances they should be given the tools and the opportunities that people -- that have money can afford if any go to treatment. and i think that is really helpful. >> yeah, good stuff. >> our state on that. >> when you look back at the kind of broken windows theory at the time of saying be tough on the minor offices. that has unintended consequences where people wound up with criminal records that maybe shouldn't have had them. >> up human. >> do you have regrets looking back on those day sns how do you look at it. >> i look at it as a different time. and i would do things differently now especially when it came to the use of the grand jury and things like that in certain cases. but the problem was back then if you walk into my shoes at that time, we had just come off this high crime moment. and we still had cases of kids getting shot on porches.

the first thing the african-american community asked me for was the resources that we would actually prosecute the people that committed these hanous crimes. we did. and there was no complaints about those sentences i will say. those were people that shot byron phillips sittening ohs behind pompeo por tasha edwards gangsteres shooting through the won't and she dies. those were the cases we handled. but for low-level offenses we can do better. i see us not as a business. - you want to be efficient but a business -- what does a business want? repeat customers. we don't want repeat customers in the criminal justice system. we want to get people the mental health treatment or get them the dsh get them the criminal dependency treatment that's going to keep them out of the system. and that is what i think we need to do all over the country. >> coming up much more to talk about. we're getting into the famous exchange with justice brett

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jones show. i'm here with senator amy klobuchar. look, i was riveted during the brett kavanaugh hearings. in case somebody was i want to show this famous clip and i want to you respond to it. >> you're saying there's never been a case where you draeng so much that you didn't remember what happened the night before or part of what happened? >> you're asking about -- yeah, blackout. i don't know. have you? >> can you answer the question, judge. and just so -- that's not happened? and see your answer? >> yeah, and i'm curious if you have. >> i have no drinking problem, judge. >> nor do i. >> i really felt that my job was to get to the truth. and i was asking him that question because i was trying to sink what dr. blasty ford said in the morning with his story. and i was simply saying maybe you blacked out. i was very surprised he did that. but my decision was not to go back at him and act like him.

i decided for the integrity of our country and our justice system, the integrity of the senate- i was just going to do my job. and i also wasn't going to go down there with him. i later talked about my dad and the drinking problem that my dad has struggled with his whole life. i said i'm not going down there with you. i'm going to stay up here. >> well, i think it was an extraordinary moment. he wound up apologizing to you. but let's talk about your dad. you know, your dad had a tough drinking problem. how did that impact you? because -- you really are a strong, strait shooter. having to deal with your dad strengthen you in that way. >> yes. and i love my dad. i'm going to see him this weekend actually. he is 90 years old. >> wow! [ applause ] >> and he is not drinking as he says it's hard to get at the

assisted living, to get alcohol. he is still going to aa at age 90. and i think for me growing up he struggled with this. i literally saw my dad climb the highest mountains but sink to the lowest valleys because of his battle with alcoholism. in his words he had three dwis basically. by the third one, just a few months before my husband and i got married, the laws were different. and he was actually facing jail time. and then that made him go to treatment. and then in his words, he was pursued by grace. and his faith and the treatment and the people that stood up for him, that made the difference. and it has motivated me to say everyone should be able to be pursued by grace, whether you get addicted to meth, whether it's opioids, whether it's alcohol, whether you have a mental health problem, it shouldn't just be my dad. and that has gotten me to push hard for drug courts, and

funding for treatment. and seeing that as a redemption in a way that until you experience in your whole life it's hard to understand. >> hard to understand. >> and everyone has that right to be pursued by grace. >> yes. thank you. a lot of families -- a lot of families have kind of pain in the past. and you have reconciled in a very beautiful and obvious way. what advice do you have to people who may have, you know, a break in their relationship with a parent? how do you find the way back. >> yeah. >> the redemption happens in your matter as well in some ways. >> that's a good point. because my parents got divorced as well during all of this drinking time. when i was 15, 16, that age. and it was hard. because i actually heard -- i was -- it was on thifgt and my dad asked my mom for a divorce. and i was in the other room and they didn't know. and i heard the whole thing. and i ran out and went to myoug.

i guess i'm always in snow. but i ran out. and he chased to -- and the next morning i went home and i still remember my mom was shoveling the driveway by herself kind of making this new life. and what i saw, though, with my family, despite my dad's drinking issues, he still loved my mom. and he loved me and my sister. and he made sure he was still in our lives. so that would be my number one advice, if there is a way to at least reconcile and stay friends for the kids, when my mom died my dad was the first one there, because i was in washington. and they maintained a friendship that was real. and he also was there for me. and i remember these awkward dad-daughter peacea dinners we would have. like, no. and he would be like how do you like your teacher after they got divorced. final hadley we decided we would

just go bike riding because we didn't have to talk as much frankly. it's something i cherish and something he gave to me. >> you found that you found that. [ applause ] >> awesome. speaking of parenting, your daughter abigail is here. i can see your influence on her in that she is also a yaly like you went to yale. she is involved in politics working for the new york city council person pan. and she is also funny. >> she won the stand-up comedy contest in college. >> i see -- you're funny. you're in politics went to yale. i see your influence on her. how does she influence you? what have you learned from her and being her mom. >> well, first of all she is the best daughter. >> yes. >> that's pretty nice. >> and she has been willing to tolerate these campaigns and wants to go around with me, which is great. and then the thing i really learned from her was when she was born and couldn't swallow. she was really sick.

and back then the insurance companies kicked you off your insurance or out of the hospital basically. and so she was in there in intensive care. and i got kicked out in 24 hours. and then as she got better and better i was -- went to like a mom basically not in public office and got one of the first laws passed in the country guaranteeing new moms and in re beans a 48-hour hospital stay. but what she did when she didn't even know she was doing it was this incredible strength. she was fed through tubes for the first year and a half. and now she is this amazing girl. she also gave me this gift, because i do understand what other parents when they have kids with disabilities that were much more serious and long-standing than what happened to abigail. it was a gift. because you understand what they are going through. so i love my daughter. and i love her incredible persistens in life. >> that's beautiful. beautiful, beautiful so --

[ applause ] >> amy klobuchar you are a gift. you are a gift to this country. and i'm so proud to know you and proud you are running for president of the united states. good luck with your race and your campaign. when we get back, entire empire star taraji p. henson talking about her new prjt and why is she speaks out about mental health and a number of issues when we get back.

[ applause ] welcome bang to the van jones show. my next guest is award-winning actor and actress. she has had memorable roles in the movies like the case of benjamin butt opinion she is now in a new film called the best of enemies welcome to the van jones show taraji p. henson! [ cheers and applause ] >> yay! . so glad to have you on. oh, this is a dream come true for van jones, i mean wab watch it. so, first of all, i'm so glad to have you here. >> thank you. >> you know, people look at you as a miracle. somebody who in hollywood -- you know they say listen once you

turn 30 you are through. even if you've been a star you can't get a role. you are in your late 40s and you are ascending. what should people at home take as a lesson from taraji. >> to never give up. and find a big are picture because there is always road blocks and obstacles. but if you have a bigger picture to focus on when the road blocks and obstacles come you can divert your attention back to where you are headed. >> what was your bigger picture. >> i just knew -- i wanted to greenlight movies. i wanted tok a black actress that could put a name on a script and it will get green lit. >> wow! . you did that. you did that. god is good. >> and open films, of course. >> open films. it's just such an amazing and inspiring thing. and also to be able to do that being a single mom. >> um-hum. >> what did you rely on? how did you find it in yourself to be able to pull this off. >> i had the little hungry eyes of my son looking up at me.

and i knew i couldn't give up, because if i quit then what am i teaching him? if i didn't make my dreams come true how am i teaching him to make his come true. >> i would think -- maybe i'm wrong. but after "black panther" and get out and your success in crazy rich asians. it must be supereasy to be black in hollywood. they just throwing scripts at you, right. >> i never had an issue with not working. >> that's true. >> that's never been my story. but it's beautiful to see so many friends -- everybody is working. >> great. >> everybody is working. that's a good feeling. but that's kind of the story for african-americans in hollywood. they never see the value until we prove it and then it's like we can make money off that. yeah, you didn't know? >> and what about the pay part though? that's also been an. >> you that's what i still fight for. >> i say more about that. >> to this day. it's almost like they want a discount -- they want a great performance for a discount.

and it's like, i'm sorry, you can't have that. >> that's right. >> and if you feel like you can get the performance you would get from me for that amount, go and good luck. not to say i'm the only one. but you just can't play me like that. >> that's right. that's right. >> i've worked too hard. >> that's right. >> worked too hard. >> yeah, yeah. >> and i deserve it. and it's not like i'm asking for crazy amounts, astronomical amounts. they're within reason. and they're what i believe i deserve at this moment in my career. i worked my ass off to get here. i have a master an massed of an incredible audience. >> it's unbelievable. one of the things that's extraordinary about you as well is you use the platform for good. the mental health piece. >> yeah. >> you've been so courageous in speaking out about that. when i first started going to therapy i resisted it so much because it's not as common in the black community. i don't think people understand it's very unusual at least ten years ago in the black community to say i'm going to therapy. why was it so important for you

to break that taboo. you have a whole foundation about that. talk to us about the importance of mental health for african-americans and everybody. >> well, importantly for african-americans, because we are suffering still from generations of trauma since slavery and we haven't dealt with it. america still doesn't own up to it. you know, so that's traumaizing. it's trauma passed down from generation to generation. and in the midst of that trauma we're not allowed to talk about mental issues, because it's taboop we have so much stacked up against us that we can't look weak. and so we don't talk about it. our kids don't know that's a field to study. that's why we don't have enough therapists or psychiatrists in the field that are culturely competent. you don't have to be black. you just have to be culturely competent and everything is not solved with a bill. >> that's right.

>> it's unfortunately the more i get into this because i launched my foundation it's the boris lawrence henson foundation famed after my father. who had his own mental issues after serving in vietnam, i felt like somebody needed to say something. we need to lift this carpet up and deal with this dirt. >> yeah. >> and it's about time. and i felt like out of necessity -- because when it was time to look for someone for me to talk to and for my son to talk to it was near to impossible. he started crunching numbers. only 7% of all dploms -- degrees handed out in that field are given african-americans. it's a lot of issues we have to tackle. but i just think i'm happy that since i have come forward i'm seeing a lot more people talk about it. >> yeah. >> and we got to start talking about it. >> look, i think it's really really important. i think that, you know, you talked about the ptsd from your dad. >> just watching the news. yeah, because he -- you never go to war and come back the same.

that's ptsd. even civilians deal with ptsd by turning on the news. you turn on the news you walk away your anxiety is heightened. that's what we are living in in time. we can't sweep is under the carpet. that's why the suicide rate is high. the suicide rate among african-american children between ages 5 and 12 is astronomical. >> breaks my heart. >> we don't talk about it. >> we don't. it's a huge issue. >> i feel like for me this whole question around wellness is something that is not even almost allowed in the black community. it's like, again, just be on your grind. >> or pray. >> or go pray. i'm for that. but praying sometimes is it is not enough by itself. >> that's the thing about praying you got to pray but do the work as well. you not going to pray and, bing, it's fixed. prayer does work but also for thework helps the prayer. >> that's good. i know there's been a lot of stress and drama around the

empire family. how you doing, holding up. >> we're on vacation right now. we're on vacation. i'm on a plane tomorrow to a private island. i will be off the grid for seven days. >> that's good. >> taking care of my mental. >> up next taraji once again playing a powerful woman in her latest film, a civil rights legend this time who worked longside a kkk dude for change. okay. you heard that right. civil rights, kkk and the message behind the story, why it's so important, all that when we get back. [ cheers and applause ] pie! pie's coming! that's what it takes, baby. geico®. great service from licensed agents, 24/7.

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just a reminder of how hate is taught and, just like it's taught, it can be unlearned. we need that message and we need it now. the universe is clever and orders what it wants when it needs it. that's why this film is coming out now. we didn't plan it right now. >> what did your grandmother teach you about the relationship she had? this is a member of the ku klux klan, a civil rights leader and she got him to turn his heart. that is nuts. what did your grandmother teach you about that or tell you about it? >> she had to change her own heart first. >> ooh. >> yeah. she hated him. how could she say that she was a christian and love her neighbor when she really didn't, so she had to change herself inwardly

before she could impact him on that level. >> how did she do that? >> connection. everybody wants to be accepted, loved, and that's our connection. >> how does it feel for you to see your grandmother portrayed by one of the biggest stars in the world? >> amazing. amazing. >> why do you care so much about bringing people together and getting rid of this hatred? >> i know god. i'm not a religious person. i'm spiritual and i know god. if the almighty god wants one race, there would be one race. if he wanted one gender, only one gender would exist. it's not designed that way. it's designed in a clever way. we all look different and we are from different backgrounds. we are on the same playground and have to figure out how to

get along. no human is better than another because of the color of your skin. that is the most ignorant thing. >> you know, i want everybody to go out and see this film. it's extraordinary. it's in theaters now. before you go do that, before i go, i want to acknowledge rapper nipsey hussle was gunned down in los angeles this week. i don't have words for this tragedy. he was an extraordinary young brother doing everything you want a young star to do, a business, promoting pride, entrepreneurship, he was doing good. he was planning a summit to have peace in the streets. this was not gang related. often it is. blue bandanas versus red. they have their reasons. the blue versus red, the community of self-destruction and we say it has to end.

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