out front next. the president wanted to reopen the country by sunday. now, he is weighing his, quote,

biggest decision yet. vowing to listen to public health officials warning against easing restrictions too soon, though. and the death toll soaring in america's third most populous state. so why is florida's governor now floating the idea of reopening schools and soon? miami's mayor weighs in. he, of course, has coronavirus. and some grim, new projections of what could happen if national stay at home orders are lifted as planned. let's go out front. >> and out front tonight, half a million cases now in the united states as of about an hour ago. more than 2,000 lives taken by this virus in the past 24 hours in this country. that is the most in a single day. it brings the total death toll, known, now to more than 18,000. today, the president saying he will listen to his top medical experts before committing to starting the country up again in may. new york's governor argues sufficient testing will be the key to reopening america, both diagnostic testing in terms of

who has it and immunity testing, who has had it in the past. but according to president trump, testing is not needed on a widespread basis. >> there's not a lot of issues with testing. certain sections. we go to iowa, we go to nebraska, and idaho is very interesting because they had a few breakouts, but they are very, very capable states, and they're big distances. lot of land. lot of opening. you don't need testing there. you don't need to test 325 to 350 million people because, number one, it's unnecessary. vast numbers or vast areas of our country don't need this. >> out front now with white house correspondent john harwood and top cnn fact checker, daniel dale. so, john, we know, right now, there is a divide in the white house between the president's economic advisors and his health

experts on when to reopen the economy and how, right? i mean, reopening the economy is not just a sort of fling the door open and we're back to normal. it's not going to be that, no matter how much president wants it to be. do we know where his inclinations lie, at this point, though, in terms of what and when? >> well, we know, erin, that the cross pressures on him are more intense than just a couple weeks ago when he faced a similar decision, and decided to keep restrictions on through the end of april, rather than opening the country up by easter. i think some of what's going on is he is going to preserve maneuvering room. see if the numbers change, if the models change their projections. i think some of what he is doing is showing business interests and other members of the republican base that he is listening to them. he feels their impatience and shares it. but the more i hear him and mike pence say we are going to follow the data, and the more we hear

the custodians of the data say no time to back off, the more i suspect he has limited moving room. couple reasons for that. one is fauci and the governors urging caution have more credibility than the president has. second, our cnn poll this week showed that 60% of americans would be reluctant to try to resume normal routines in the month of may. they are scared about it. and, third, most of the economic activity in the united states, in fact, is in large metropolitan areas that are populated and governed by democrats. partisan divide here. republicans are more impatient than democrats. but democrats control the keys to the economy. so i think there is a risk you get the old say from the field of dreams. you open it, they will not come. >> of course in those large metro areas is exactly where the risk is highest of another quick spike if you do reopen too soon because of density. you know, certainly in some of

them. daniel, religious services and i bring this up because we all remember when the president said that he was going to have full churches by easter. he said he'd be watching virtually on his laptop, right? but of course it was only three weeks ago that he did say he wanted packed churches. >> it was. we have gone round and round with the president on all this stuff. and, frankly, this is a president who just says things. he says things that pop into his head. they aren't always thought out, and he gets talked off the ledge or decide to keep going. and it's hard to know where he is going to land on any given day. i mean, at today's briefing alone, we heard him say that he listens to the doctors and the experts about everything. we heard him, when asked what the metrics will be in making his decision about restrictions, pointing to his own head and saying that's the metrics. that's all i can do. and, also, making an argument for why keeping people at home can cause death, just like letting people go about their business can cause death. so where -- where you -- you

know, what you get when you combine all of these thoughts, i, frankly, have no idea. >> so, john, one thing you get, though, is that there is going to be another task force, he says. a second one coming on tuesday that's going to be focused, specifically on this issue of reopening the economy. so what do you know about this group? who is going to be on it? how much powerful it's going to be? what's -- what's this going to be? >> well, we believe it's going to include economic advisers. people like larry kudlow. people like steve mnuchin, the treasury secretary. outside business interests. representatives from industries, sports leagues, that sort of thing. it's going to be less formal and i think less powerful than the coronavirus task force. for the simple reason that everyone knows that the economic problems we're suffering from now are caused by the coronavirus. and, therefore, the solution lies in the control of the

coronavirus. so, as anthony fauci said, the virus is going to decide when we are going to be able to open the country. so i think you can make plans and talk about phased reopening of the economy. but, again, until you have the virus under control, people aren't going to want to go to work in those high metropolitan areas where most economic activity takes place. and businesses are not going to make investments knowing that the consumer sentiment and the availability of the consumer to take a lot of products they would be producing is shaky. >> appreciate both of your time. on this friday night and out front now, dr. anthony fauci weighing in on the florida governor's plan to reopen schools amid the pandemic. here he is. >> if you have a situation which you don't have a real good control over an outbreak, and you allow children to gather together, they likely will get infected. and if they get infected, the likelihood they will bring the infection home so that really is a risk. >> there are 392 public schools

in miami-dade county. i want to go out front with mayor frances suarez, and, mayor, it is good to see you again. i want to start on this issue with the schools. you know, as a parent of children myself, this is an issue that matters deeply to me. and i know so many millions of americans right now. they want schools open, at the right time. so when you hear your governor saying that right time might be very soon, and you have got 392 public schools, what do you say? zb >> well, i agree with dr. fauci. we are not certain where we are in this stage of contagion. there is some evidence we are close to the peak or around the peak. but it's still too early to tell. still too premature to make any sort of decision when you have the fourth largest public school system in miami-dade county, with 350,000 children. that is an incredible amount of children who could be at risk and whose parents could be at risk, and whose grandparents

could be at risk. you know, we saw a lot of the devastating images of south florida during spring break when local officials refused to close the beaches timely. and so i think we have to be very prudent, very careful. and we should air on the side of caution. and i think listening to dr. fauci, the medical experts, is probably the best advice that we could adhere to. and, certainly, with a public school system as large as ours, it would be particularly dangerous to open up too soon. >> do you think schools will open before the end of the school year as scheduled at this point? or do you think that is extremely aspirational? >> i think it's aspirational. i think, you know, we have to see the data and as dr. fauci says, you have to sort of let the virus dictate the outcome. but i think, at this point, it's way too early to tell. we would need at least a couple more weeks. we have had, you know, in

florida, seven days of declining number of cases. unfortunately, we've had some of our deadliest days as well because there is probably a lag between when someone's diagnosed and, unfortunately if they pass, from when they pass. but there is some light at the end of the tunnel. but i still think we need certainly a few more weeks of data to determine whether or not it's going to be safe to open up before the end of the year. >> and you talk about, you know, new cases dropping. obviously, that could change dramatically if things reopen at the wrong time. but given the -- the -- where you are now and what you see now with the way things are, do you have enough for the hospitals that you have? for ventilators, equipment, ppe. are your hospitals staffed for what you see now? >> right now, we are. obviously, if we had a situation similar to what's happened in new york, that would change things dramatically. what is pretty clear is that

what we've been implementing, you know, with cancelling large events, with stay-at-home orders, with my recent order for that -- for everyone to wear masks if they go in a convenience store, if they work in a convenience store, if they work at a construction site. what's clear is that it's working. and so i think what's important is that we discipline ourselves. that we not become complacent. that we don't, you know, think that we have our, you know, victory already. and that we understand that it's going to take more time for us to really get to a point where, as you said, we don't have a situation where we have another flare up because we are premature. >> last time we spoke, you were home with coronavirus. and you had actually taken actions to get tested. because you had been around, you know, the very same people that were at mar-a-lago. this, obviously, was several weeks ago. and at the -- you know, you were -- you had symptoms but you weren't terribly sick.

how are you doing now? are you fully -- fully better? and did anyone in your -- in your household end up getting sick? >> i feel great. thankfully, nobody in my household got sick. nonof t none of the employees of the city that came in close contact with me were sick. we tested over 40 employees in the city. i actually had to go through a very strict testing protocol, you know, with guidelines from the cdc. i actually tested negative, twice, in a 24-hour period. and because of that, i was able to do something that i call on other former covid-19-positive people to do, which is to donate plasma to try to help others who may have had far worse symptoms than i had. i was only i think the first person in florida and one of the first in the united states to do it. listen. this is a battle that we all have to fight together. and hopefully, when we're individually victorious in that battle, we should help those who are having a very difficult time.

and we are trying to facilitate as many plasma donations as we can here in miami. there are so many people that are in critical condition in icus, and it's really unfortunate. you know, if you are hospitalized, there is a 20% chance that you don't make it. and if you're in icu, then obviously that percentage goes up dramatically. and so we're hoping that the antibodies that we have formed can help others, as well. >> mayor suarez, good to talk to you again and thank you. >> thank you. >> next, the white house pushing ahead with plans to reopen the country, possibly in weeks. so that's the big question, right? what would that look like? what does open mean? and the administration says it's now taking steps tonight to address the outsized impact coronavirus is having on black communities. but is it enough? and tech companies are now tracking some americans in an attempt to spread -- to slow the spread of the deadly virus. so how is that working?

leading projection of the pandemic said u.s. deaths from the virus hit the peak today. we also learned of 2,000 reported deaths today. it is the most in a single day. so where are we in containing the spread as the president

weighs reopening the economy? if you listen to the president himself and task force coordinator, it's actually quite unclear. >> the number of new cases per day is flattening substantially. suggesting that we are near the peak. >> it's really about the encouraging signs that we see. but, as encouraging as they are, we have not reached the peak. >> okay. so let's go out front with dr. amy compton phillips, cnn medical analyst who treated america's first coronavirus patient. so, doctor, you know, look. we've got projections from hhs, "the new york times" is reporting on those basksly saying if you lift the stay-at home orders after 30 days, which would basically be lifting them at the beginning of may, which the president said he hopes he wants to be able to do. would result in a dramatic spike in cases. in fact, they said it would be back to these worst-case scenarios, and undo everything we've basically already done.

so what do you do, at this point? >> so what you do is you try to keep the germ contained. so, right now, all we've done is -- is start to slow the growth, right? that's what flattening the curve is about. it's only slowed the growth. we need to wait a couple more lifecycles of the virus so it burns out rather than just getting flat in the number of cases. and, then, once that starts going down, then we can start doing what we wanted to do at the beginning, which is isolate each individual case. trace everybody that person's been in contact with. and start containing the new cases. and, that way, we can actually start getting in front of this rather than having the germ be the one beating us. >> and when you say a couple of cycles, that is -- that translates into another month from here? or i mean i've just -- you know, going off the 14-day period. what do you mean when you say cycles? >> yeah. you know, if -- if we were doing

it right, it'd be another 28 days after you -- after you stop the spread. to keep people really locked down. the question is, are there parts of the country that we might be able to really get enough testing in that we could start opening things up, you know, little glimmers of light before then. but i think that's really what dr. fauci was talking about when he said you can start getting the country back. you don't just flip a switch, and then send everybody back to school and everybody back to work because then you end up in the same boat that you're in right now. and, instead, how do you actually start loosening things a little bit? in a planned and thoughtful way. >> the president says you don't need universal testing in place to start the economy. and of course when you look at historical things, like let's just say swine flu, right, you don't get to your estimate of tens of millions of americans having it because you tested tens of millions of americans, right? you get to this because you tested enough to be able to make a mathematical inference and actually know the numbers. but it appears, in this case,

it's different because the deadliness is different. right? how much testing do you need in order to get the information you need about where it is and who has it to contract trace, to open up an economy? >> we really need a lot more information about this germ. it -- we just don't have enough yet. so the serology testing you were talking a little bit before about. who all has already been exposed? you know, we don't know yet. we know that the incidence of people who have symptoms and have been tested. but we don't know how many people actually have gotten exposed to the germ and developed antibodies to it, and now are immune to it but never had symptoms. or, you know, thought it's spring, it's allergy. something really mild. so not knowing that, we don't know, at this point, how many people are immune in different communities. and so we don't know what the level of what we call herd immunity is. and it's when we start getting more and more people immune that the virus has a harder time

getting to these frightening levels. >> dr. compton phillips, thanks so much. i appreciate your time tonight. >> and next, the administration now saying it is trying to reach and strengthen communities of color, which have been hit so hard by this virus. but is it too little, too late? van jones and derrick johnson, the president of ncaap are out front. an effort to track americans to slow the spread of coronavirus, they will know where you are and who you're with, though. road-trip companion. it's kind of my quiet, alone time. audible is a routine for me. it's like a fun night school for adults. i could easily be seduced into locking myself into a place where i do nothing but listen to books.

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that minority communities are being hit the hardest. so how is this reality being confronted by the white house? and what does it mean for black and hispanic americans? out front with us now, derek johnson, president of the ncaap and political commentator van jones. so, derek, let me start with you. u.s. surgeon general jerome adams addressed communities of color today. he's been talking about how his upbringing has made him more susceptible to getting sick from this virus. today, he used some colorful language talking about the issue. here he is. >> avoid alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. call your friends and family. check in on your mother. she wants to hae from you right now. and speaking of mothers, we need you to do this if not for yourself then for your abuela. do it for your granddaddy. do it for your big mama. do it for your pop pop. we need you to understand, especially in communities of color, we need you to step up and help stop the spread so that we can protect those who are

most vulnerable. >> and, derek, when he was pressed on it, the surgeon general says he's been speaking with you about how to best address this issue, and to target outreach in the black community. here is that exchange. >> you talk about whether or not people -- i guess could you have a response for people who might be offended by the language you used? >> well, i used that language because that's the -- i have been meeting with the ncaap, with the national medical association, with others. i actually talked with derek johnson multiple times this week, the head of the naacp, and we need targeted outreach to the african-american community. and i used the language that is used in my family. that is not meant to be offensive. that's the language that we use and that i use. >> obviously, you know, that exchange. a bit tense there. were those comments part of your discussi discussion, derek? >> let's be clear. what we are looking at now is a pandemic that was made and created not because of individual or personal behavior

but because policymakers that's in the white house right now did not take the necessary precautions to ensure that all citizens of this country were protected. it's manmade because we have defunded the key aspects of infectious diseases. it is manmade because we have refused, as a nation, to expand affordable care act so more americans can have access to healthcare. and it's manmade because of the social conditions that many people live in. so i don't want anyone to ever think that this is about their personal behavior when, in fact, this is public policy that has gone awry because we have not taken all citizens' health into consideration when we're making policy decisions. >> so i want to get to the behavior part in a second. but just as a followup, are you okay with the way he said it? he said these are the words that are used in my family. you know, when he said abuela, granddaddy, big mama, pop pop. you did not find that problematic?

>> well, it's about the podium you are using when you having the conversation. a presidential briefing is not a -- discussion. and i think that's what people are reacting to. but let's be clear. you have bus drivers in the city of detroit who have died and others been affected. you have sheriff deputies who are being impacted. you have families who cannot go to work. and we need to focus on the impact this virus is having on our communities. and as a result of public policy, not individual behavior. >> so -- and -- and, van, to that point, we understand that part of the reason, right, that you have, you know, in black and brown communities, some people are getting much, much sicker, right, is, in part, because they are in jobs where they have to keep going to work, right, when derek's talking about bus drivers and these are people who are going and putting their lives on the line every day now to go to work. and it's also because of policy decisions and healthcare decisions, you know, prediabetic and diabetic issues that exist

way, way, way before we are now. but the surgeon general today said black, latino, and other people of color, quote, should avoid alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. you heard that at the very beginning of his sound byte. what's your take on those comments? obviously, alcohol, tobacco, and drugs are -- would affect anybody negatively. whatever your race. and, also, to derek's point, they are personal behaviors. >> i'm glad he said what he said. let me be very, very clear. you know, the naacp is 100% correct, in that we have an epidemic already of neglect in communities. and we have an epidemic, already, of hypertension, of obesity, all those different thingings. and so you have a pandemic jumping on top of an epidemic. we have an epidemic of jobs.

they now call them essential workers. they weren't paid as essential workers, didn't have rights of essential workers until this very moment. but i want to be clear about something. imp glad that some of these officials are trying to break through to communities and a half that have not gotten the message. a lot of the stuff we have been saying has not been helpful. when we talk about comorbidities and this sort of stuff, that's not how regular people talk. regular people talk, hey, do you take a pill every night? do you take a pill every day? then, you could die from this. it's not just about older people. in the black community, we're seeing people die in their 50s, in their 40s, and even younger, because we have high blood pressure. we have an epidemic of that. so you got to say, hey, do you have pressure? you could die. i don't care if you are 30 years old. do you have an asthma inhaler? you could die. i don't care if you are 40 years old. and when you start talking that way and breaking through -- you got sugar -- we call diabetes sugar. you got that sugar? do you have that pressure? you can criticize somebody for

saying that. but somebody's going to listen to that differently and make a different choice. it's, both, public policy. it's also, now in the light of the failure of public policy, we have personal choices. and i think it's important that we stop this high language that most people cannot understand. one thing i got to say is this. please understand there is an epidemic of ignorance about this virus. not just in the black community. we have white governors that will not do the right thing by their own states in the south. but the reason we're focusing on black and brown people is because, in our community, the consequences of not understanding this virus are so high. we are the ones that are dying. and so it is important. this is not playing the race card. it's playing the data card. according to the data,wear the on we're the ones who are dying. so those hotspots. send in masks. send in respirators. send in tests. and use language that people can understand. i'm not going to criticize anybody for trying to reach out

when we are dying in these numbers. >> derek. >> you know, i absolutely agree. and you talk about data. we are consistently saying to the cdc, release the data. we need to understand who's been impacted, where they have been impacted, so we can identify the necessary treatments to address this pandemic. for whatever reasons, this administration has refused to do so. but it's critically important that we get the data so we can understand how best to navigate in this pandemic. if we don't have data, we cannot isolate where the problem is taking place, control the spread of the virus. so that we can come out of this, the economic realities that we are looking at right now. as a result of bad policy decisions, individuals, yes, they have to make personal choices. but, unfortunately, those personal choices have devolved to whether or not we are going to have enough food on the table because we no longer have our job and we cannot get through to

the unemployment office. i will continue to talk to healthcare experts and professionals because the politicians have failed us. so my conversation with the surgeon general is like it is with the national medical association because, as african-americans, we have to come up with a solution to address this because government is failing us, as -- the same way they failed us during hurricane katrina. >> derek johnson, van jones, thank you, both, very much. next, state governments want to know if you are really obeying stay-at stay-at-home orders. and now, some of them are going to be working with tech companies to develop a way to find out where you are, at all times.

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so some tech companies are now actually able to track how well americans are actually following social-distancing orders. how are they doing it? and how are some state governments now using that information? sarah sidener is out front. >> official government orders to stay home stare you in the face are you obeying them? a tech company uni cast knows. as of friday, nevada, vermont, and california were at the top of the list as far as residents staying put. six states were near failing. overall, the united states got a c plus. how did they do it? by tracking cell phone data. and, now, some state governments are hiring companies to do it, too. they developed social distancing models that gage how well residents are adhering to stay-at-home orders. >> as we dig deeper using cell phone data. >> the state of new mexico is one of the first to go public about hiring a company, carte

labs, to get geolocation statistics. >> we came up with a way to measure, statistically, how far a typical person in the community was going away from where they started the day. >> so you actually could track cell phones to show that people were following, or not following, the stay-at-home order. >> mike warren says other states have also signed on during the pandemic. china goes even further. it's using citizens' smartphones to control their movements around the cities. a qr code on their phone determines where they can go. >> americans are really concerned about that kind of personalized tracking. is that concern addressed by the technology? >> absolutely. i mean, i, personally, am concerned about that, as well. so we have got a number of controls that prevent us from tracking individuals. >> he says the data sold to the u.s. government is just statistics. anonymous information that does

not reveal who the phone belongs to. you play a role in being tracked, too. when you download certain apps, and agree to let them use your geolocation on your phone, that data is being used by third-party companies and advertisers. and, now, some state and local governments. there are plenty of companies buying the tracking data. for example. >> spring break. >> remember those spring breakers who flocked to beaches even after the warnings to social distance? xmo collected spring breakers phone data. another company, techtonics, was able to show where those spring breakers ended up. those points of light are cell phones pinging from beaches. >> it becomes clear just how massive the potential impact just one single beach garkting can have. >> if just a few of those spring breakers contracted coronavirus, they could have spread it far and wide. now, governments want this kind of data in part to see if

stricter measures to distance citizens are needed. >> i am talking with governors around the country about how you do that. and, again, everything on the table, including, if we needed to, i would consider curfews. >> all these tracking capabilities have brought up the quintessential question about privacy. how much of your personal liberty are you willing to give up for security or the health of the nation? >> like many things, it can be used for good or it can be used for evil. >> but he is clear that the data being used now is being used for good. and it could help save lives. but, erin, i do want to mention this. beginning next month, apple and google -- and this was just released today -- will release software that will allow health officials to gather detailed data on the whereabouts of cell phones. but both of those companies say they are going to go farther, and build new contact-tracing

capabilities within the software of your phone, they say. that the plan will maintain those strong privacy rules. but, again, a lot of people are trying to decide how much they want to be tracked, and if they will do it for the good of the country or if it becomes a real issue of trying to protect your own privacy and personal liberties. erin. >> crucial question, which of course china didn't have to deal with. they just tracked and did and did as they chose. all right. thank you so much, sarah. out front next. keeping the faith and hope on this good friday before easter. and a holy time for many religions. how, with father beck. and honest bidding site. an ipad worth $505, was sold for less than $24; a playstation 4 for less than $16; and a schultz 4k television for less than $2. i won these bluetooth headphones for $20. i got these three

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passover, sunday is easter, and in less than two weeks, ramadan begins. but like so much in our lives right now, these holiest of times are different now. out front now with cnn religion commentator, father edward beck. and father beck, it is good to see you. just to see your face, even through this. i know, obviously, you and i have spoken over text but not seen each other, as so many are not seeing each other. and, you know, passover is different. i know we saw a lot of zoom seders this week. people alone, or trying to join by phone. what do you make of people

finding ways to come together right now, that are not physically being together? >> well, i think what's so interesting is it pushes us, erin, toward a new spirituality that might not be a terrible thing. when you think about it, that image of the pope -- a few images of him -- alone in that square and the isolation of it. and, yet, it was very contemplative. there was something very spiritual about it. that there is a real strain in spirituality of the contemplative part, of the aloneness part. i mean, the desert fathers and mothers went into the desert for a reason. to be free of distractions, and to be replenished in some way. so i am kind of thinking about using this time, and have been and encouraging others to, yes, we cannot come together, physically, and that's part of community. but there is a real value in spirituality and in faith to be able to have this time in

contemplation and meditation, and discover new ways of connecting to god and of course online to one another. >> it is. you even experience that just when you are in new york city and you are on the street, right, and there is almost like a community and camaraderie of meeting someone's eyes that you didn't have before. even though, now, you can't have a conversation with them because you are six feet apart. you know, i guess on a certain level, i understand what you are saying just on a human-connection basis. but we are in a time of year, you know, it's spring and there is rebirth and renewal, which of course is one of the traditions that many will celebrate this easter sunday. how does that message, though, sit? i mean, how do you take that message of rebirth and renewal, and then see these pictures of, you know, mass graves? i mean, literally, this is in new york, right, hart island. unclaimed bodies are being put in there. and these -- it -- it is like a mass grave. these are unclaimed bodies with no one to know who they are, to want to bring them somewhere.

how do you put those thingins together? rebirth and those images. >> well, erin, there's never been a time in our lives when, as a global community, we have entered these mysteries that we're celebrating now as christians these days in an experiential way. i mean, just think about it. today is good friday. it is about suffering and death. tomorrow, holy saturday, commemorates jesus in the tomb, waiting for rebirth. waiting for renewal. who of us, in some way, during all of this pandemic and this isolation, doesn't feel like we have been entombed in some way? and, yet, i think the whole part comes and the reason it's called good friday is because it's not the final word. that we do believe -- christians believe -- two days later, that jesus was resurrected, life was restored. and i think we believe that about ourselves, too. that we're not going to stay in

the tomb. that the -- the end of this is not suffering and death. and we've seen that in so much of the kindness you are talking about. i mean, it's almost like a post-9/11 feel, here in new york, walking down the street and encountering people. and there's love and there's compassion, and there is a coming together that i think is so rare. and that's where i'm finding the new life and hope of renewal, and the possibility of something else here. and i think it's really inspiring, as well. so i think going through these mysteries in the midst of actually going through these mysteries has been a really powerful experience, for me, and i know for many others. >> and in termless s of how -- obviously, you have always relished your time alone to think and to read. but what have you turned to during this time? >> i've turned to, actually, trying to be more quiet. and to read less and to be on my

device less. or my devices less. i have picked up a new novel, which -- and i haven't read a novel in quite some time. i've just been reading other stuff. and so i have just been trying to savor some of the time. and realizing that this time, while i don't want it and i am longing to go out to dinner or go to a movie, like everybody else, there's something about it that's also a gift for me. and i am trying to use it in a productive way. and to realize that there is a mystery in this, that i can absorb, and that maybe months from now, i will look back and see it as a grace instead of just a punishment of some kind. >> father beck, thank you very, very much. >> thank you, erin. great seeing you, even this way. >> all right. and that is all for us tonight. thank you for watching. stay tuned as the news continues here on cnn.

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